Joe suspects that when Greg Schiano makes time to relax and daydream with his feet up and a cold beverage, he dreams first about running Doug Martin behind Carl Nicks and Davin Joseph.

And in that fantasy of an unstoppable running game, Joe suspects Schiano envisions a second running back spelling Martin and further bruising opposing defenses.

Is that guy LeGarrette Blount? Joe’s not sure. But Joe believes Blount should be tendered a restricted free agent offer from the Bucs when they’re dished out around the league in February.

Blount is among the best and most dangerous backup running backs in the NFL, and he would come relatively cheap. The Bucs could put a “second-round tender” on Blount for 2013, which would pay him just under $2 million. If another and better offer soon after was made to Blount that he accepted, then the Bucs would get a second-round pick from that team. Or the Bucs could put a right-of-first-refusal tender on Blount. That would be pay him a little over $1 million for 2013, and another team could try to lure Blount with a better deal. In that scenario, the Bucs would get no compensation if Blount left.

Considering there’s no guarantee the Bucs will find the No. 2 running back of their dreams when the March free agency bell rings, Joe can’t imagine a scenario that has Blount getting released. Last spring, Schiano couldn’t stop saying “run the football.” And Blount can run the football if called upon.

Sure, Blount could be one of the “weeds” Derrick Brooks referenced. But if that were the case, why wouldn’t the Bucs have cut Blount once they were out of the playoff hunt?

Obviously, the organization has no faith in inactive list captain Michael Smith, and D.J. Ware was hardly impressive. At the very least, if Blount had to fill in for Martin, Blount is durable, will get respect in the play-action game, and he didn’t fumble during the 2012 preseason or regular season.

Joe believes a Blount in hand would be a wise move. The alternatives are not very enticing.

Until the draft starts heating up, aside from the need for a new secondary coach(es), a new QB coach, a new secondary (sans Mark Barron and/or Ronde Barber), and the looming questions concerning the Bucs’ defensive line, there really is only one subject remotely moving the needle with the Bucs. That’s the status of Bucs quarterback Josh Freeman.

It began when Bucs coach Greg Schiano stated flatly the Bucs need competition at quarterback. Some have suggested that is code for either letting Freeman’s contract expire or even drafting a potential replacement for the fourth-year product from Kansas State.

To hear former Bucs defensive tackle Booger McFarland discuss the subject, McFarland likened the whispers seeping out of One Buc Palace about Freeman to a relationship between two lovers when one is looking for an upgrade

And in this relationship, McFarland said, it is the Bucs who have developed a wandering eye, so he said while co-hosting “The Booger and Rich Show” heard locally on WHFS-FM 98.7.

“If you are Josh Freeman and you are 24-years old and you are looking for a commitment just like any woman out there who has been in a relationship as long as Josh Freeman’s relationship has been with the Buccaneers — four years? You know you want a ring on it. ‘I have shown you commitment for four years and what do you do? Eh honey, I like you, but…’

“You see, that is what the Buccaneers have told Josh Freeman. ‘You are our starting quarterback until we can replace you.’”

McFarland went on to confess he didn’t know if this is a good thing or a bad thing for the Bucs, but he did say there is only one way for Freeman to repair the bond between himself and the Bucs. And that is for Freeman to lead the Bucs to the playoffs next season.

Joe believes that’s a reasonable request.

No, this is not about making sure all nationalities are represented equally on the Bucs’ offensive side of the ball. Wrong forum if you had the wrong impression.

Joe has heard periodically a Bucs fan here or there kvetch about the Bucs’ play-calling diversity and, frankly, Joe was confused. If anything, Joe thought the Bucs were unpredictable. Yet this same subject was lobbed at Woody Cummings of the Tampa Tribune in a recent TBO Bucs Q&A.

Q: I know the problems we have on defense but I’m focusing on the offense for now. We must diversify our pass plays as much as New England does using our tight ends, fullbacks, tailbacks and wide receivers. We are way too predictable in our play calling which is what many opposing players have said after facing us. We must keep the other team guessing. Go Bucs!

— Bill Elkins, St. Petersburg

A: Keeping ’em guessing is always a big part of football and I hear what you’re saying. But based on the fact the Bucs produced more points and yards than any other team in franchise history tells me the Bucs did a pretty good job this year of keeping their defensive opponents off balance. Now, do they need to improve and become more consistent, absolutely. And yes, upgrades at TE and a little more use of the fullback can help take care of that.

— Woody Cummings

Aside from early in the season when tight end Dallas Clark was virtually a non-factor, Joe is as confused by the charge the Bucs aren’t diverse offensively as he is at this faux controversy that Brent Musberger thought Miss Alabama is hot. What, Musberger was supposed to say that Alabama quarterback A.J. McCarron was sleeping with a Rosie O’Donnell clone?

As Cummings points out, the Bucs scored the most points in franchise history. Bucs quarterback Josh Freeman had and used plenty of weapons. Fullback Erik Lorig was involved in many games.

How much more diverse can the Bucs offense get?

Last offseason, Greg Schiano was hired in late January and was so busy luring assistant coaches and advisors, evaluating film of the Bucs roster, crafting internal systems and building playbooks, that he wasn’t very involved in the critical early stages of the NFL Draft process.

Yeah, many fans want to believe Schiano took over the draft from rockstar general manager Mark Dominik, but it just would not have been humanly possible. Schiano said of Dominik, “there’s none better in this league,” and Joe’s confident that praise was not for Dominik’s ability to get out of the head coach’s way or fetch coffee.

Speaking on the Buccaneers Radio Network recently, Dominik said he was fired up to have Schiano much more involved in the 2013 draft.

“I’m excited with the coaching staff and with Coach Schiano having a chance to really commit to the draft this year instead of hiring all the coaching staff. It’s going to be an exciting year for our offseason.”

It will be interesting to see whether Schiano’s greater influence is noticeable. Raheem Morris was always involved in scouting. For example, the story goes that Mason Foster was a guy Raheem became enamoured with at the Senior Bowl and lobbied to make him a Buccaneer.

WTSP-TV, Ch. 10 sports guy Chris Fischer sat down for a long season review and offseason preview with Tampa Bay Times Bucs beat writer Stephen Holder on Sunday. The video is below.

Holder calls “competition” for Josh Freeman a “blanket” statement and is very skeptical that there will be any kind of competition at quarterback. Among many topics, Holder also says the “jury’s still a little bit out” on Greg Schiano and his coaching prowess.

Joe’s favorite part of the video comes at the 5:30 mark. It’s good to see Joe’s lingo is making an impact.

Now Joe realizes beat writers at the Tampa Bay Times and Tampa Tribune both wrote this weekend about how the Bucs aren’t sold on Josh Freeman and are crafting Plan B and competition scenarios behind closed doors.

But Joe’s rather cynical and is taking more of a we’ll-see approach when it comes to how the Bucs really feel about Freeman and the prospect of potentially replacing him and pushing him with “competition.” Keep in mind that rockstar general manager Mark Dominik wasn’t interested in providing competition for Freeman in 2010, 2011 or 2012, and Greg Schiano didn’t make competition happen in 2012, when Freeman was coming off a dreadful 2011 season. So why should Joe be so quick to believe these two leaders will make competition happen, even if they desire it?

Eight days ago, Dominik took to the Buccaneers Radio Network airwaves and sang loud-and-proud praises for Freeman. Dominik didn’t sound like a GM with any doubts about his young quarterback.

“Although Josh went through a stretch there where the turnovers were heavy, Josh still had a tremendous football season if you look at it as a whole,” Dominik said.

“Knowing that, again, he’s 24 years old, going to be 25 years old in the offseason, he guided this football team to the most touchdowns we’ve ever scored in franchise history. It’s the most points we’ve ever scored in franchise history. It’s the most yards we’ve ever had in franchise history. It’s almost 6,000 yards. So when you sit there and think about what Josh Freeman did, he set, you know, the season record for touchdown passes with 27, season record for yards, it’s very exciting to say, ‘Wow, this is a young quarterback who’s got in here who has helped us create the strongest offense in Tampa Bay Buccaneers history.’ And yet, you know, we still continue to want to look at this football team and say, ‘How can we improve it?’ And I know Coach [Schiano] probably touched on it a little bit, it’s competition. We’re going to continue to try and push competition at every level. And I am really excited about what Josh Freeman did [last season], but I know that he can do better and am excited about what he can become for our football team.”

Nobody can say with certainty that they know how the Bucs brass really feels or how they even define “competition.”

And there could be a whole smokescreen element to all this. It doesn’t hurt the Bucs to have the league think they might jump at a quarterback in the third round, for example. That could help Dominik make a quality trade down to pick up another mid-round pick, like the one he snagged last year that allowed him to trade back into the first round and draft Doug Martin.

Nothing would surprise Joe when it comes to the Bucs adding another QB alongside Freeman next year, including if the Bucs bring back Dan Orlovsky and a third veteran QB to compete for a backup job.

The Bucs need cornerbacks for 2013. Terribly so. But the free agent market isn’t bursting with a long line of cornerback depth.

How shallow is the free agent market for corners? Well, the cornerback Bucs fans love to hate, despite his occasional strong games, E.J. Biggers, nearly makes a top-10 list of free agent corners. Football thinktank ProFootballFocus ranks Biggers at No. 12.

Joe never understood the vile hatred Bucs fans have for Biggers. Joe certainly understands why fans throw a remote at their TV when they see Myron Lewis take the field, but not the screaming and hollering over Biggers.

ProFootballFocus even has Biggers rated far higher than Aqib Talib and even higher than Marcus Trufant, Elbert Mack, Brent Grimes and Tracy Porter. Interestingly, PFF has the immortal Stanford Routt, who was virtual Viagra for too many desperate Bucs fans this year, only one notch above Brandon MacDonald.

Given how bad the Bucs need corners and how few decent corners are available via free agency, Joe expects Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik to ink Biggers to a new deal. He can’t afford to let a serviceable corner walk away.

If Michael Bennett brings in a haul in free agency, will that Brinks truck come from the Bucs or elsewhere?

The Bucs had a losing record. The players are watching the playoffs just like a guy in a bar. It has now been 10 years and counting since the Bucs last won a playoff game.

Straight-shooting Alan Dell has surveyed the Bucs thoroughly, and the Bradenton Herald columnist believes that getting the Bucs to the playoffs is a bit of a bigger task than some believe.

Two things that stick out about the 2012 Bucs are the horrible play of their cornerbacks and the inconsistency of quarterback Josh Freeman. The lack of pressure put on by the defensive front four is a major disappointment, especially with all the money the team has paid out in recent years for that unit.

The Bucs had 27 sacks, third worst in the NFL. The loss of injured defensive end Adrian Clayborn was devastating, but they did get a full season out of defensive tackle Gerald McCoy for the first time in his three-year career, and he made the Pro Bowl. Da’Quan Bowers will be a question mark every year at defensive end because of knee problems.

Injuries on both the defensive and offensive lines curtailed their productivity and showed the need for more depth. A third quality receiver would help. But there is only so much you can do in the offseason, so it’s unclear if all those needs will be met.

This is one reason Joe believes, if a defensive end that strikes Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik’s fancy, Dominik will jump at the chance at the No. 13 slot. There’s a myriad of question marks still on the defensive line, whether it be free agents or guys with health concerns.

There’s not much to be had as far as cornerbacks on the free agent market, but even pedestrian cornerbacks are an upgrade to what the Bucs have on the roster.

If Ronde Barber retires, Bucs fans will be looking at three new starters in the secondary for the 2013 season.

The supreme sources of college football-ignorant, popcorn-munching, coffee-slurping, fried-chicken-eating, oatmeal-loving, circle-jerking, beer-chugging Peter King, of Sports Illustrated and NBC Sports fame, are telling him that Bucs icon Monte Kiffin, who should land in the Bucs’ Ring of Honor before he dies, is on Andy Reid’s short list to be defensive coordinator in Kansas City. ProFootballTalk.com noted the news today.

How cool would that be to see 73-year-old Kiffin patrolling the sidelines in the NFL once again?

It was thought that Kiffin, when he announced his desire to return to the NFL recently, might only be interested in a consultant/advisor position But it seems he’s looking to jump back into the coordinator role.

Joe finds it interesting that Reid would consider running Kiffin’s Tampa-2 base defense. Perhaps Reid might take a sniff of Raheem Morris, now that Raheem’s Redskins are out of the playoffs.

Many Bucs fans, including several front office types if not Bucs coaches at One Buc Palace, are holding their breaths hoping that Bucs offensive coordinator Mike Sullivan is not tagged to be the next head coach of the Chicago Bears.

It’s not that the crowd at One Buc Palace wouldn’t like to see Sullivan advance and succeed. It’s the collateral damage that would happen if Sullivan leaves for greener pastures with the Monsters of the Midway.

If Sullivan goes to the Second City to succeed Lovie Smith, that would mean embattled Bucs quarterback Josh Freeman will have his fourth offensive coordinator in five years. This is partially why Alex Smith and Jason Campbell crumbled as NFL quarterbacks: Both had a revolving door of offensive coordinators in their formative years as professionals.

So Joe reached out to a long-time acquaintance, Chicago Tribune columnist and Bears insider Dan Pompei, to get feedback on Sullivan’s candidacy with the Bears. Joe first met Pompei some 20 years ago when Pompei, then was the Bears beat writer for the Chicago Sun-Times. Pompei was kind enough to provide Joe will some insight of Sullivan and the Bears.

JoeBucsFan: It is known that Bucs offensive coordinator Mike Sullivan had a lengthy interview last week with the Bears. Hearing from your contacts, how serious of a candidate is he? What is it about him that the Bears like?

Dan Pompei: It’s difficult to say at this point where Sullivan ranks in the Bears’ pecking order, other than to say he is one of many, many candidates. On the surface, his resume might not be as impressive as some of the other candidates, but Phil Emery isn’t necessarily looking for eye popping statistics or years of experience as a coordinator. He is looking for leadership and head coach qualities. And it wouldn’t surprise me if he found them in Sullivan, given his background and the men he has worked for and with.

Joe: Just based on resumes, it seems Indianapolis offensive coordinator Bruce Arians would be a strong candidate, a better candidate than Sullivan. What do you know about Arians and the Bears?

Pompei: Arian’s depth of experience is a selling point, as is his track record with quarterbacks. He is a bit of an outlier because he is 60 years old. That could end up hurting his chances, but Emery isn’t concerned with age as much as he is concerned about energy and ability to do the job at a high level.

Partially an element of both hope and wishful thinking, Joe must believe the Bears would go after Arians first, before offering a gig to Sullivan. This is not a knock on Sullivan in any way, but Arians has a long, proven track record of excellent work with quarterbacks.

While Sullivan did a fine job molding Eli Manning as a quarterbacks coach with the Giants, his first year as an NFL offensive coordinator working with Josh Freeman is, one could describe as, incomplete.

Bucs rockstar general manager Mark Dominik has had incredible successes and notable failures, like most GM’s around the NFL.

And, of course, Dominik doesn’t coach. As Joe’s written previously, Joe gave Dominik 15 percent of the blame for the horrendous 2011 season, not 50 percent or more like many fans and pundits. Plus, it was pretty obvious that the 2009 hiring of Raheem Morris was a Team Glazer call, not Dominik’s.

But today, Joe’s wondering how much a GM should be judged by his teams’ won-loss record.

Wacky Scott Pioli took over the Chiefs in 2009, same year Dominik grabbed the reigns in Tampa, and was fired last week. Acclaimed veteran Chiefs beat writer Bob Gretz, Kansas City’s lone voter in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, said Pioli’s 23 wins in four seasons meant he deserved to be canned.

It’s not that I’m a numbers guy. In fact, if you have read this website over the years you already know I struggle with anything greater than basic math. Despite his many character flaws, rampaging insecurity, devious nature and seemingly bi-polar behavior, Pioli was fired because the numbers did not add up.

Specifically 23-42 – that’s the Chiefs record with Pioli in charge:

• 2009: 4-12.
• 2010: 10-7 (includes loss in playoffs to Baltimore).
• 2011: 7-9.
• 2012: 2-14.

Total: 23-42, a .354 winning percentage. That’s bad football. That gets people fired.

Dominik has just one more win than Pioli and one less playoff appearance. So does that mean Dominik is on thin ice or should be?

Ultimately, every GM must be measured by wins and losses, but it’s a far more complex threshold than that of a head coach. The record must be scrutinized to determine the GM’s role in the outcome. And then there’s the whole unknown factor of potential restraints placed on a GM by ownership.

One could argue that Dominik cost the Bucs the playoffs by making a series of wrong decisions that left the cornerbacks cupboard bare this season. But one could also argue that Dominik’s homerun 2012 draft and aggression with Vincent Jackson in free agency left the Bucs awfully close to becoming a playoff team — all while having a mountain of cash for the 2013 offseason, and emerging young NFL stars on the roster.

It’s a great debate. And hopefully it’s one that won’t continue among Bucs fans, because if the Bucs win, nobody will care.

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You would think Aqib Talib was heaven sent to the New England Patriots, if you read this Talib feature story in Sunday’s Eagle Tribune, a north Massachusetts/New Hampshire newspaper.

From Bill Belicheat’s comments to those of Patriots players to the stats rolled out to support Talib’s savior status, it’s almost hard to believe.

As for Talib, he says New England is more professional than what he ever experienced in Tampa under Jon Gruden, Raheem Morris and the New Schiano Order.

”As soon as you walk in the building you notice it,” said Talib. “It’s all about team here. Everybody is a professional. I have never experienced anything like this. I see the owner, Mr. (Robert) Kraft every day. That’s amazing, man. Coach Belichick treats everybody like a man, with respect. He’s a cool guy.”

Joe still would have traded Talib to the Pats for a fourth-round pick. It was the right move. The only thing reliable about Talib was his unreliability. And it surely would have made no sense for the Bucs to pay him a fortune in free agency after this season.

With three sacks in nine games in limited action, plus a couple of fierce hits on Matt Ryan, DaQuan Bowers left Bucs fans with plenty of hope for the 2013 season.

And even more uplifting was Bowers recently telling the Buccaneers Radio Network that his comeback from a torn Achilles in April was extraordinarily smooth. “No setbacks. No swelling,” Bowers said.

Bowers also dove into discussions of leadership on the Bucs defense that evoked two names: Gerald McCoy and Lavonte David.

The former went out of his way to encourage Bowers regularly during his long comeback.

“[McCoy] would always check on me in the weight room,” Bowers said.

As for David, well, Bowers essentially called him the ultimate Buccaneer Man.

“It’s breathtaking,” Bowers said of David’s on-field performance. “He has that instinct about him. He has that downhill, right-at-you-right-now type of play. You know, that’s hard to find, especially from young guys like ourselves.

“If he sees you with the ball, he’s going directly towards you, right now, he’s not going to wait. And that’s what we need on this team. I think he was a great pick for us last year in the draft. We need more guys like him.

“He doesn’t wear a captain sign, but he’s the captain of our defense. You know, when he talks, nobody is talking. We’re listening to him because he’s going to get us in the right situation. He going to make the calls and the checks and we’re going to go with it. He’s done a great job this year.”

Joe was glad to hear the respect and admiration for David. The Bucs desperately needed a leader at linebacker, and it seems David is already there and surely will evolve into a better one next season.

Yesterday, Joe’s post about Josh Freeman, and what Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times suggested as a less than stable future for the Bucs signal caller, blew up with 200+ comments so Joe decided to take the rest of the day off and watch football.

Well, Tampa Tribune Bucs beat writer Woody Cummings took the Freeman saga a step further in his Sunday column.

Cummings described the comments from Bucs coach Greg Schiano wanting “competition” for Freeman as nothing more than “rhetoric” and went so far as to suggest the Bucs are so unclear about Freeman’s future, the team may be looking at options to replace him after the 2013 season, the last on his current contract.

That’s what this offseason’s search for a quarterback to compete with Freeman is all about. It’s about getting ahead of the curve. It’s about preparing for the possibility of a future without Freeman.

Fast forward to late 2013 or 2014. Imagine a Bucs team with Freeman playing at the same level as this year, which is good enough to dream about making the playoffs but not quite good enough to get there.

The Bucs have imagined that scenario. Freeman has left them no other choice. He forced the issue when he suddenly went off the rails down the stretch and cost them two critical games.

Whoa! This is an eye-opener to Joe. To be honest, it would be prudent. There is no guarantee Freeman will be on the Bucs roster in 2014, and Schiano doesn’t want to be caught with his pants down having to rely on Dan Orlovsky (!) of all people to lead the team.

Joe has gone on record as stating the Bucs should try to re-sign Freeman now to a very team-friendly, incentive-laden contract, as Freeman has little leverage currently. Apparently, this is not in the Bucs plans.

Cummings’ information pretty much reinforces what Joe has been preaching for the past week: That getting “competition” for Freeman doesn’t add up in that it means even less snaps for Freeman and when you are trying to develop a quarterback, that’s actually a backwards method. The quarterback you want to develop needs more snaps, not less.

Cummings also throws out two names that Bucs fans may want to monitor as potential draft picks: Landry Jones of Oklahoma and/or E.J. Manuel of Florida State. A pick like that, Cummings explains, is no different than what the 49ers did in drafting Colin Kaepernick. If starter Alex Smith improved, he would be entrenched as the Niners quarterback. If he slipped, the Niners had a Plan B.

Joe knows there are many Bucs fans who would cherish the day that Josh Freeman is no longer with the Bucs.

Many Bucs fans are tired of seeing Freeman’s inconsistent ways and they also see quarterbacks with less experience if not lesser talent lead their teams to a playoff berth, something Freeman has yet to accomplish as he enters his fifth season as the Bucs’ starting signal caller.

Joe is under the impression that, barring something totally unforseen, Freeman will have his contract extended with the Bucs at some point before it runs out after the 2013 season. If Freeman struggles again, well, then the Bucs get a team-friendly contract from Freeman.

But not all believe this to be the case. Enter Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times,who is of the mind there is a very real possibility that Freeman, if he struggles again in 2013, could play for a new team in 2014.

Coach Greg Schiano inherited Freeman, so he has no loyalty to the enigmatic quarterback. He likes a lot of things about Freeman’s game — he did set franchise records for passing yards and touchdowns — but plans to add a quarterback, either in the draft or free agency, to compete with Freeman next season.

But let’s say Freeman doesn’t lead the Bucs to the playoffs in 2013, his fifth season. He’s gone. Schiano might start over with a new signal caller that might not win fast enough to save his job.

Stroud goes on to note that if the Bucs decided to franchise Freeman after the 2013 season — provided he has a good season — it could cost the team as much as $17 million a year or more to keep the Kansas State product via thefranchise tag.

This is something Joe has written about a few times before, even before Freeman was drafted. A new coach, Schiano, isn’t going to Pearl Harbor his own gig if Freeman struggles. Schiano didn’t draft Freeman; he is not tied to Freeman in any way.

Also, as Joe has noted before, Schiano was wont to start freshmen quarterbacks at Rutgers. That tells Joe Schiano expects a high level of production from his quarterbacks and if he does not get said production, is quick to pull the trigger on another quarterback.

Simply put, if Schiano doesn’t believe Freeman can lead the Bucs to the playoffs after the 2013 season, Joe wouldn’t be surprised if Schiano waves goodbye to him.

In short, the ball appears to be in Freeman’s court. His future with the Bucs is in his hands. Get to the playoffs in 2013 and Freeman not only hits the lottery, but he will be your Bucs quarterback for perhaps the next decade.

Ron Turner, the Bucs 2012 quarterbacks coach, explained to a Miami radio station how Butch Davis got him the head coaching job at FIU.

Standing at the podium for his final 2012 news conference last week, Greg Schiano wore a black and white, rubber-looking bracelet dangling from his wrist engraved with the word, “Family.”

Family is a big theme in the New Schiano Order. Schiano himself even leads his “Family 1, 2, 3 cheer” with the Buccaneers.

So given the allegiance Schiano demands, Joe was very surprised to hear 2012 Bucs quarterbacks coach Ron Turner tell a Miami radio show that it was trusted Schiano senior advisor Butch Davis who asked him if he wanted to coach Florida International University and then recommended him for the FIU job. Turner was hired by FIU on Thursday.

“Butch Davis is very good friends with [FIU athletic director] Pete Garcia,” Turner told WQAM-AM. “Butch and I were together on the staff in Tampa this past year. I’ve known Butch for a long time. And Butch asked me one day if I, you know, wanted to be a coach in college again. And I said, ‘Yes, I absolutely do.’ And he asked if I’d be interested in FIU, and I said, ‘Yeah, I would. I want to do some research on it, look into it a little bit, but yes, I would definitely have some interest.” I was familiar enough to know a lot of good things were going on. I did some research, liked it, and Butch was kind enough to recommend me to Pete Garcia.”

Asked whether Davis was legitimately considered for the FIU job, Turner said those were rumors and “when that happened, Butch recommended me.”

This was very bizarre to Joe and makes Joe wonder what the heck went on behind the scenes.

Did Davis, on the Bucs payroll, get permission from the Bucs to recommend his buddy Turner for another job during the Bucs season?

Or did Davis disrespect the family and work to help his friends above the interests of the Buccaneers?

Or, was Davis encouraged by Schiano to find Turner work because the organization was looking to get Turner out of his contract?

Whatever the truth is here, Joe finds it fascinating that a well paid Buccaneers consultant helped a key assistant coach leave the team.

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Longtime readers here know Joe is a student and critic of all things Bucs football, and that includes how the team is viewed by national and local media, from opinion writers to ex-player talking heads to allegedly unbiased journalists.

So it was notable to Joe when Bucs beat writer Stephen Holder expressed “hate” for the way Team Glazer operates with media.

And it was a real stunner considering the reader/commenter, during a TampaBay.com live chat Friday, never asked Holder for his opinion on access to Team Glazer, nor did the reader/commenter offer his own opinion on that topic. Holder simply felt compelled to express a little “hate.”

Comment From George Steele: Has any reporter ever asked the Glazers whether they would admit that they were trying to run this team on the cheap the last few years.  The whole “building through the draft” thing was obviously a ruse for them to spend as little money as possible.  Once they went out and spent money on some top quality free agents this year we saw what an immediate difference it made.  I think they are going to have a hard time filling the stadium for a while given the way they ran the team for so long.

Stephen F. Holder:  I think I might phrase it a little differently if so, but I hear you. The Glazers, for the most part, don’t do interviews. And it’s not for a lack of us trying. I hate it as much as you do

So what does it mean or matter if a supposedly unbiased beat writer has true “hate” for an aspect of the team he or she covers? Joe’s not sure. But expressing it in a public forum without being prompted probably means the “hate” has reached a troubling level and could affect objectivity.

For the record, Team Glazer does interviews a few times a year in recent years, the next one likely being their traditional state-of-the-team extended sit-down at the NFL Owners meetings in March. Joe gets how his colleagues want more access, but Joe thinks there’s surely enough access to not invoke extreme emotions like “hate.”

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The leader of the New Schiano Order joined ESPN Radio to talk NFL playoffs, Bucs and Chip Kelly on Thursday.

Schiano sounded like the stress of the season was off his back and he was upbeat and even talked about how much fun he had without being prompted. Schiano also kept it real. He agreed the Bucs could have had a better record if they got it done in some tight games, but also acknowledged the flip side. “It could have been worse,” Schiano said.

You can enjoy the entire interview below.