Former Bucs offensive lineman and current WDAE-AM 620 morning personality Ian Beckles watched the Bucs’ loss to the Stinking Panthers twice. Once last night, live, and again this morning. The second viewing apparently turned Beckles’ stomach.

In his opening monologue today, Beckles let it all hang out and called out both coaches by name and players by name who are stinking the joint up.

In short, Beckles said he cannot watch another Bucs game so long as Bucs commander Greg Schiano, Beckles’ neighbor, is stomping the sidelines at the Stadium on Dale Mabry Highway.

Here Beckles’ words by clicking the little arrow below.

Nothing gets a Bucs fan to race to the liquor cabinet quicker than when someone drops the name “Raheem Morris.”

The Raheem Morris era in Tampa Bay football was so dismal, Joe doesn’t know where to start. His final weeks as Bucs coach will forever be seared into Bucs fans’ memory banks, with no ability to purge. Morris’ teams were simply chain-whipped and alley-beaten. What Sonny Corleone did to Carlo Rizzi paled in comparison to what NFL teams did to Morris’ charges.

Well, the Custodian of Canton, eye-RAH! Kaufman of the Tampa Tribune has some sobering and frighting statistics. It seems the Bucs defense, led by Bucs commander Greg Schiano, is slipping into Raheem Morris territory, so Kaufman Twittered today.

@IKaufmanTBO: The Buc defense kept the team competitive in September, but those days are over, Opponents have scored 31 points in each of the last 3 games

If that isn’t a death knell to a coach (Schiano), Joe doesn’t know what is. If your defense is starting to look like Morris’ defense in his final weeks — and we are still in October – gives Joe the shakes and makes him want to grab a bottle of Bushmills right now.

Tampa Bay Times columnist Tom Jones and beat writer Rick Stroud talked this morning about potentially firing rockstar general manager Mark Dominik and wondered aloud about whether they trust Team Glazer to hire a new Bucs head coach and football architect. (Here the debate via 620wdae.com audio below.)

Does Dominik get a failing grade for the Bucs’ struggles in 2013? Quality groceries were purchased in conjunction with a hard-line coach that has questionable coaching and evaluations skills.

Joe gives Schiano an “F,” but Joe can’t give Dominik a failing grade. He’s no honor roll man, but it’s a much deeper debate when one micro-assesses Dominik’s performance.

Joe has gone on record he has no desire to see Bucs commander Greg Schiano forced to walk the plank any time soon. What would be the goal for doing such a thing? So Dave Wannstedt can come in and maybe win three or four meaningless, worthless games and screw up a good draft slot? Oh, great. Buh, bye Jake Matthews, goodbye Jadeveon Clowney, see-yah Johnny Football.

If the Bucs are going to stink, then they may as well stink real good so they can land a top draft pick.

Many fans just want to see the statue toppled, no matter the consequences. They are out for blood.

Given how rotten the Bucs have been playing for three full months of NFL play, one has to wonder if Team Glazer will be motivated or forced in some way to let Schiano go before December. Pat Yasinskas of ESPN.com tried to solve this riddle.

Does Schiano even make it through Friday? I don’t know. The only people who do are the Glazer family that owns the team, and they’re not talking. But the Glazers don’t like getting embarrassed, and this game was on national television.

My guess is the Glazers don’t want to fire Schiano because he’s the guy they brought in to clean up Raheem Morris’ mess. Schiano has righted the ship off the field by getting rid of problem players, but the results on the field can’t be sitting well with the ownership.

“I visit with our owners all the time,” Schiano said when asked if he knew where he stood with the Glazers. “There are open lines of communication. We’re all just trying to get better and do the things that make the organization better.”

Joe could easily see Schiano finishing the season. Right now it is all about finding a coach and the 2014 draft. Canning Schiano in the middle of the season sends a poor message to prospective coaching candidates that Team Glazer didn’t support Schiano in tough times, so why would said candidate believe Team Glazer wouldn’t support them if things went sour?

If the losing under Schiano continues, then it’s not the wort thing. Winning a handful of worthless games and falling out of the top three in the draft would be a regrettable loss.

One of many fans who showed their disgust for Bucs commander Greg Schiano in last night’s loss to the Stinking Panthers.

At this point, with the Bucs losing 12 of their last 13 games, they are 0-7 in 2013. And with a quick glance at the schedule, the nearest possible non-miracle win on paper could come in December. It really isn’t a question of Bucs commander Greg Schiano not returning for a 2014 season, but if he will have the luxury of finishing the 2013 (which Joe isn’t wholly opposed to).

Team Glazer coughed up a quarter of a billion dollars in players salaries the past two seasons. There is talent on this roster but yet the team loses. And loses. And loses.

Former Bucs great and Hall of Fame defensive tackle Warren Sapp, working for the NFL Network which broadcast last night’s game, pointed a finger directly at the Bucs coaching staff for misusing players, documented by the Custodian of Canton, eye-RAH! Kaufman of the Tampa Tribune.

“Right now, this ballclub, I think they need to play to their strengths,” Sapp said. “Whenever I look at this defense, I see talent. I see talent that can be utilized in much better ways. And until they start utilizing the talent that they have on this team, we’re going to be looking at an 0-and-whatever team for quite awhile.”

Whether it is having the defensive line run stunts just for the sake of running stunts, or the popular non-issue of the day that dominates sports talk radio, whether All World cornerback Darrelle Revis is playing man-to-man or zone defense, right now it’s difficult to argue the problem with the Bucs has been a massive breakdown and failure by the Bucs’ college of coaches, some 73 assistants or so it seems.

Too many former Bucs, too many former NFL’ers, too many respected analysts, watch the Bucs and shake their collective heads about what the players are being ordered to do.

That’s a damning statement on the coaches, led by Schiano.

The theme of Gerald McCoy’s postgame comments in the WDAE-AM 620 audio below are all about how the Bucs took a thorough beating last night to the Stinkin’ Panthers.

In past weeks player commentary was often about the Bucs beating themselves, but it seems McCoy, as well as Greg Schiano in his postgame comments, believe the latest thrashing was more about not being good enough.

This is troubling. The Bucs were bad, but now they’re getting much worse. The Bucs haven’t sniffed a good chance to win a game in their past three.

It’s no secret that Mike Williams has been playing with a bad hamstring since the bye week. He’s nowhere near 100 percent and had three catches for 20 yards against the Panthers last night.

But Joe has learned that Williams’ injury is now considered serious and it is likely that his season — or most of it — is done.

Joe expects a detailed announcement to come next week.

This will be another crushing blow the Bucs’ horrendous offense. Losing Doug Martin and Mike Williams? Ouch.

Joe hopes, given that the 2013 season is lost, that the Buccaneers do the right thing and shut down these two young stars until next year. The Bucs need them healthy for 2014. Whoever is coaching the Bucs will surely want those guys on his roster.

Joe thinks he is doing a fine job on covering the Bucs. Why? Well, Joe notices readers on this here corner of the interwebs think Joe is too harsh.

Yet the past couple of days, Joe has been told by others in person he is too soft on Bucs commander Greg Schiano.

This tells Joe he message is getting out perfectly.

Speaking of perfectly (and for those who need a cuddly blanky to wrap themselves in as they prepare for bed and work tomorrow), about the only bright spot last night was the play of stud linebacker Lavonte David.

Dude was all over the field (again) and his play the last two weeks likely has even the great Derrick Brooks nodding his head in approval.

But after the games, and thoroughly spent and exhausted and dejected David would have nothing to do with any accolades.

“It isn’t about me, it’s about the team,” David said. “I’d give all that up [personal successes] to get some victories. I wouldn’t be dong that if it wasn’t for my teammates. All that individual accolade stuff, don’t mean [anything] to me. I’d give all that up for victories.”

Now right there is what Joe calls a team guy. Dude is playiing at a beastly level not seen around here in years, and yet, he wants victories, not prizes and/or awards. He is sick of losing.

What more would you want from a linebacker?

The national humiliation continues. The NFL Network video linked here is a roundtable chat on the Raymond James Stadium field about the demise of the Bucs’ locker room and details, via “Bucs sources,” what it will take to get Greg Schiano fired before the end of the 2013 season.

Perhaps most embarrassing is Hall of Famer Marshall Faulk explaining why he wouldn’t be on board with the head coach if he was a Buccaneer. “I’d have a deaf ear for him,” Faulk said.

Greg Schiano hears fan outcry but is unaware of the billboards

The biggest news of the day, a day full of Bucs news, may have been the new billboards in Tampa and in St. Petersburg, specifically next to the Fruitdome on northbound I-275, that simply say “Fire Schiano.’

There will be 17 more.

A local radio station is using the cry screamed by Bucs fans for days if not weeks to help promote their radio station by tapping into the pulse of the Tampa Bay community that wants Schiano ousted yesterday, no matter the consequences.

Schiano was asked about the billboards in his postgame press conferene tonight and claimed he was not aware of them.

“I dont know,” Schiano said of the impact of the billboards on the team. “I think our players — they have all been involved in competitive athletics for a long time, so I don’t think that really concerns them. Quite frankly, I didn’t know there were [billboards], so that’s how dialed-in I am I guess.”

While the billboards may be news, Schiano is well aware of the heckling fans hurled at him at recent games, especially the cascade of boos and barbs and insults hurled at him as he left the field and entered the tunnel after the loss to the Stinking Panthers.

“It doesn’t affect me,” Schiano said. “People are certainly entitled to their opinion. Here is the thing: My whole career — player and coach — you get up in the morning, you work as hard and as smart as you can, it usually puts you to bed tired, and you get up and do it again. That’s teh way I do it. [We] do it the best we can — our coaches, our players — [and] stick together. Sometimes it doesn’t go your way. We’ve just got to keep doing it, look for new ways to make us better, and hopefully go get a win in Seattle. You can sit there and cry about it and feel sorry for yourself, but that isn’t going to help anything. You just get back to work, get on this tape, get better.”

So Bucs fans, Schiano may not see the billboards [yet], but he does here your cries. They make him more determined to turn the Bucs around.

It seemed like a simple question posed to Darrelle Revis in the Bucs locker room following the latest debacle at the Stadium on Dale Mabry Highway last night.

“Do you believe collectively this team still believes in the scheme and the coaching staff?” FOX-13 reporter Kevin O’Donnell asked Revis.

Well, that was a tough question for Revis. He wasn’t sure whether his teammates are buying in to all things New Schiano Order.

“I don’t know. I don’t know.” Revis replied to O’Donnell. “You know, we got a game plan every week. We gotta stick to the gameplan. We gotta abide by the gameplan and what we’re trying to do to win. I don’t think guys are literally going out there and trying to do their own thing. You know, in every game there are mistakes up and down the board. You know, the word that we have to get to and we have to focus on is consistency. That’s all. And at this point, that’s a hard word for us to try to do, to try to do that, to be consistent.”

Joe is speechless. Joe asked a few players about playing for Greg Schiano to save his job, and Joe didn’t get any rah-rah kind of support for the head coach.

Unfortunately, that wasn’t surprising.

Revis went on to say he didn’t know if he’d be surprised if Schiano was fired soon. When asked about the “Fire Schiano” billboards now in the Tampa Bay area, Revis didn’t take the opportunity to defend his head coach.

“I’m not really looking into it. I didn’t pay for it. I didn’t put it up,” Revis said.

Joe had a chance to ask good guy and Bucs right guard Davin Joseph a couple of questions just as he was leaving the Stadium on Dale Mabry Highway this evening after yet another Bucs loss, their 12th in their last 13 games.

JoeBucsFan: You have been on winning teams. You have been on teams that have struggled. Obviously, you don’t need to be told what’s going on now. Can this team turn things around?

Davin Joseph: It is up to the guys in the locker room. Starting with myself. I have to play better, as an individual. I have to maintain my belief that we are a good team and that we can compete at a high level. So, yeah, it can be turned around. No doubt about that. Like I said before, our job is to win, you know? Our careers are on the line. We have to be able to fight and dig ourselves out of this hole.

Joe: Your knee is OK? You are fully back physically? Your knee is 100 percent?

Joseph: That, it doesn’t really matter. I have to perform. That is plain and simple. Football is football and I have to play football better. Everybody gets knocked up [hurt]. Everybody is knocked up. That is not the issue. I just have to perform at a higher level.

Joe can’t imagine a scenario in which Greg Schiano keeps his job. At 0-7 and not competitive, he’s doomed.

But when will Team Glazer make a move?

Tomorrow? At the end of the season? After the seemingly inevitable brutal beating in Seattle in 10 days?

Joe’s said previously that there is no logical reason to fire Schiano midseason unless the Bucs quit on the field. Did that happen tonight? Joe will have to look at the film, but there appeared to be some questionable efforts.

But outside of soothing the mob of fans and ex-Buccaneers that want Schiano ousted, Joe sees no purpose as long as the Bucs are trying. There’s nothing to accomplish by inserting Dave Wannstedt. Just play it out and hope to draft a franchise quarterback handpicked by a new head coach.

But Joe doesn’t make the call, of course. Team Glazer must decide whether they’re willing to endure another nine weeks of Schiano bashing from across the country.

Greg Schiano said the Bucs were the “laughingstock” of the NFL when he took over as head coach in 2012.

That’s debatable, but the Bucs surely are that now — 0-7 is inexcusable for this non-rebuilding team.

Tampa Bay was a national embarrassment tonight on their home turf, where the boos rained down loudly from the small percentage of the sold-out crowd that stayed for the fourth quarter. The Bucs were outcoached again. And what happened to the hard-hitting, in-your-face Bucs defense of the first two weeks of the season?

Wasn’t this a division rivalry game? You know, where teams dislike each other and slug it out to the death?

The Bucs were gutted and gashed. For the third week in a row — three in a row — the opposing quarterback threw for better than 70 percent. This time it was Cam Newton going 23-for-32 for 221 yards and two touchdowns.

Joe’s really struggling to find positives in this loss. Lavonte David did some nice things, as usual. Mike Adams returned from injury and recorded his first NFL sack. Mike Glennon had a few excellent improvisations. Tiquan Underwood rediscovered his hands. The Bucs fought through the finish.

But the Bucs got clobbered. They were not competitive, and now it’s off to the cauldron that is the Seahawks in Seattle.

Well, well, well. Aren’t you happy that the Bucs are on national TV tonight? The NFL Network has been digging up all sorts of goodies on the winless Bucs that Joe is confident Bucs fans were all too happy not to hear, read and see.’

So since this is a nationally broadcast game, Joe is going to guess there is no need to worry about an illegally streamed URL popping up in the comments. Right? Right? 🙂

Anyway, Joe hopes you enjoy the game and feel free to unload on anything that strikes your emotions in this thread.

Joe has a bad feeling that, barring a turnovers, the Bucs may just come close to being shut out.

Game 7

Stinking Panthers (3-3) at Bucs (0-6)

Kickoff: 8:25 p.m.

TV: NFL Network.

Radio: Buccaneers Radio Network (in Tampa WFUS-FM 103.5, and WDAE-AM 620); SiriusXM Channel 93.

Weather: Per AccuWeather.com, fall is making an appearance in the Tampa Bay area and it can be felt tonight. Tailgaters best bring a jacket or a sweatshirt with them. Temperature at kickoff is expected to be 68 and slip to 65 toward game’s end. No rain and little wind are expected.

Odds: Per FootballLocks.com, Stinking Panthers -6.

Outlook: This has a chance to be very, very ugly for the Bucs. Their two main weapons tonight, quarterback Mike Glennon and running back Mike James, are both rookies and will be going up against one of the top front sevens in the NFL. Sounds comforting, huh? Yeah, the Bucs could throw the ball like crazy, which is what Glennon is doing, and it may not be a dumb idea. But when you are only throwing for about six yards each completion, that’s not going to get the job done.

A couple of reasons Glennon is throwing short is the failings of the under-performing Bucs offensive line and the steady diet of blitzes coming at him. Glennon often doesn’t have time to throw so he is tossing short passes, hoping his receivers break a few. Of course, it might help if stud wide receiver Vincent Jackson would solve his dropsies virus.

Joe doesn’t foresee the Bucs doing anything much offensively. The only way Joe sees the Bucs winning is if the defense creates a bunch of turnovers, which can happen with Cam Newton.

Is Mike Glennon a potential franchise quarterback?

He’s missing a key component to get there, says former Bucs quarterback Shaun King.

King, one of three QBs to lead the Bucs to the NFC title game, had plenty to say about the future of the Bucs today during his interview on WDAE-AM 620. King reiterated his take that Glennon is playing ok and as expected given the circumstances he walked into. But King isn’t seeing the basic tool needed to be a premier quarterback.

“He doesn’t have a big arm,” King said of Glennon. He has good velocity on the intermediate to short throws, but when he’s asked to push the ball down the field, he doesn’t have a big-time arm. And that worries me about a guy that can’t move, a guy that’s not going to extend plays. You know, it’s always going to be kind of that methodical dink and dunk. As I told you last week, it’s hard to put 10, 12-play drives together consistently in this league. You’ve got to be able to take advantage of your down the field shots.”

This is something to watch for tonight against the Panthers. Glennon underthrew two deep balls to Vincent Jackson in Atlanta — one was caught.

Pressed to come up with a motivational speech for the Bucs tonight, Bucs icon Warren Sapp was at a loss for words during an interview on NFL Network in advance of tonight’s Thursday Night Football matchup between the Bucs and Panthers. 

Sapp, after saying, “I don’t really think the Bucs believe in what they’re doing,” couldn’t think of what words might inspire the Buccaneers. Then he offered a suggestion.

“Schiano, tell’em it’s for your job. That might help,” Schiano said.

Joe wonders whether that would, in fact, help. Bucs players seem to be playing hard for 60 minutes, not smart, but hard.

Maybe they don’t realize their head coach is on the hottest of NFL hot seats? That can’t be possible.

Joe suspects the Bucs will turn in another strong effort tonight, minus the results. They’re just not good enough, and they repeatedly get outcoached.