The Latest On Darrelle Revis And The Bucs
April 10th, 2013ESPN’s Rich Cimini gives an update on Darrelle Revis’ trade status in this BSPN video.
ESPN’s Rich Cimini gives an update on Darrelle Revis’ trade status in this BSPN video.
Not only are the Bucs banking on Da’Quan Bowers taking the NFL by storm with a double-digit sack season, they’re first banking on him slithering through the New York City court system and coming out clean.
Bowers is back in court tomorrow in Queens. He’s still on the docket, and his Feb. 18 charge is the same — criminal possession of a weapon in the second degree, a felony that carries a minimum sentence of 3 1/2 years.
Though there is no official designation of tomorrow’s proceedings, it appears to be an arraignment. Joe was told by a New York court official that Bowers must be in court by 9 a.m., where he will wait for his name to be called among about 60 defendants scheduled for the same court.
Joe will bring you the latest tomorrow as information becomes available.
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One would think beat writers around the NFL know their teams quite well, at least more than a draft guru sitting in a room with a laptop, a coffee pot and trays of cheese danish.
Therefore, Joe was eager to see how the NFL beat writers first-round draft would go on NFL Network. Essentially, the NFL AM crew took a break from dance talk to interview a writer from each NFL city — in draft order — to get their pick.
The Bucs finally came up and Stephen Holder of TampaBay.com claimed the third cornerback off the board with the Bucs’ 13th overall pick, Xavier Rhodes. You can see the video here.
Writers selected cornerback Dee Milliner for the Lions with the fifth overall pick and Miami was granted CB Desmond Trufant with the 12th selection. Interestingly, the Jets’ beat writer didn’t have his team snatching a corner with the No. 9 pick.
This all intrigued Joe, mainly because veteran NFL scout and former NFL personnel man Chris Landry just said there are only two cornerbacks worthy of first-round grades, and one of them is not named Rhodes.
Would the Bucs “reach” for a cornerback at No. 13? Or would they be content to wait until the second round and/or trade down?
Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik, seeing the virtual wasteland of free agent corners, decided to play hardball with one already on his roster, Eric Wright, and got him for a considerably less money for another season.
As Joe wrote yesterday, the reworking of Wright’s contract was a shot across the bow at Jets general manager John Idzik. In so many words, the signing told Idzik, “You need to trade Darrelle Revis more than I need him on my roster.”
For a while there, it appeared Idzik, knowing how desperate the Bucs were at cornerback, was trying to shake down Dominik in return for Revis. Shoe’s on the other foot now.
Dominik is really boxing Idzik in a corner to lower his price, and Joe would really be thrown for a loop now if Dominik gave up the No. 13 pick in the draft this month.
Though some have speculated a Revis trade would come down the week of the draft, roughly two weeks from now, Joe isn’t as convinced.
If Dominik drafts a couple of corners in the draft, he could use one of those corners, maybe even Wright, as trade bait to the Jets, thus lowering ransom demands of draft picks.
In short, the vice on Idzik’s privates got tighter last night.
Now Joe still doesn’t know how much, if any, guaranteed money Eric Wright miraculously got from the Bucs to restructure his contract this evening.
So there’s more to learn, but according to NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport, via ProFootballTalk.com, Wright’s new deal for 2013 is worth a minimum of $1.5 million and up to $3 million.
Joe is not pleased or soothed by the Wright signing, but Joe is withholding judgment and a full blown commentary until Joe knows whether Wright can be cut without significant financial consequences to the Bucs. And Joe wants to know more about Wright’s deal to determine whether he could be legitimate draft-day trade bait.
UPDATE: Joe has learned that there are no guarantees in Wright’s new pact. He can be released at any time through training camp with no penalty to the Bucs.
The JoeBucsFanTV studios were scurrying this evening putting the final touches on this Eric Wright video.
Joe’s pal Justin “The Commish” Pawlowski says Eric Wright is not a bum and Wright’s pill-poppin’ stupidity is the Bucs’ gain. Joe’s not sure he agrees. Do you?
Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik has retained troubled cornerback Eric Wright for another year, the team announced in a press release this evening.
Wright’s contract was restructured, per the press release. Details were not included.
So consider this Dominik’s first shot across the bow at the Jets who are trying to fleece the Bucs for multiple picks, including this year’s overall No. 13 pick, for cornerback Darrelle Revis.
As Joe has stated many times before, the Bucs have all the leverage in trying to obtain Revis. Jets general manager John Idzik’s jewels just got tighter in the vice.
Now if the Bucs draft a pair of corners in the draft, as Joe stated yesterday, watch the price for Revis drop like the price of Easter candy in May.
The Jets need to trade Revis more than the Bucs need to obtain him.
It’s also clear Dominik thought Wright was as talented as any of the free agent corners on the market.
Bucs stud left tackle Donald Penn is one of the coolest guys in the Bucs’ locker room. And recently he signed up for Twitter and has been a Twittering fool.
If you happen to be a Lakers fan in addition to a Bucs fan, Penn is a must follow.
This afternoon, Penn seemed to be teasing Bucs fans claiming there is some big news ahead.
@DPENN70: I just heard some good news Bucs fans y’all will find out soon and it has nothing 2do with Revis but will help our team out a lot #trustme
So if this isn’t Revis, what could it be?
Did Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik swing a trade for a corner other than Darrelle Revis?
Did Dominik sign a right tackle?
Did Dominik trade for a tight end?
Or, what may be more likely, has graybeard Bucs legend Ronde Barber made his decision to return to the Bucs?
The plot thickens.
UPDATE: Donald Penn sent out another Twitter to clarify his previous statement and suggests the “good news” does not involve Ronde Barber.
DPENN70: Dang I didn’t know it would do this but here is a hint has nothing 2do with the GOAT Ronde Barber as far as I know he is still undecided
Could it be that Mike Williams signed an extension?
And no, “GOAT” does not mean Sabby the Goat, but is an acronym for “Greatest of All Time.”
It could easily qualify as tampering if Bucs staff talked publicly about potentially trading for Darrelle Revis, as Revis is under contract with the Jets. But that doesn’t mean the Bucs can’t find a way to get direct messages to fans via their official website.
Buccaneers.com occasionally will link to NFL Network video that features a Bucs topic. The team hardly links to everything, so Joe must assume that Bucs communications staff picks and chooses based on the messages they want fans to receive.
Therefore, Joe finds it interesting that the Bucs have linked to NFL Network video titled, “Tampa Bay Buccaneers still in for Darrelle Revis.” The link is prominent on the Buccaneers.com home page.
Perhaps this ties into the Keep Calm campaign on the team Facebook page.
When the Bucs let banged up defensive end Michael Bennett walk away, the move, though smart, left the Bucs thin up front. And vulnerable.
So Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik is putting much faith in oft-injured Da’Quan Bowers to put in a full season healthy at left end? That may be a gamble. That’s not even factoring in whether Adrian Clayborn can fully recover from an ugly knee injury (before you type it, not every NFL player is Adrian Peterson).
Oh, and Roy Miller is gone, too. The Bucs’ defensive line, not exactly reminiscent of the Fearsome Foursome, is now razor thin.
That’s why Joe will not be shocked at all if the Bucs pick a defensive lineman at No. 13.
Bucky Brooks of NFL.com thinks the same way. In his recent mock draft, he has the Bucs selecting BYU defensive end Ziggy Ansah.
Ansah would be a hell of an addition, and in Joe’s mind Ansah would immediately give the Bucs a feared pass rush. Ansah is a rare cat. He has size, he has speed, his arms are crazy long. He could be the next Too Tall Jones.
Oh, and give the Bucs some depth up front as well.
The creator, curator and overall guru of ProFootballTalk.com, the great Mike Florio, sits down to discuss the Bucs and Darrelle Revis with former NFLer and current SiriusXM NFL Radio personality Ross Tucker in this NBCSports.com video.
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So what’s happening in the head of Darrelle Revis?
It’s likely nobody will know anything until Monday, when he’s supposed to report to offseason workouts with the Jets or face stiff financial penalties. The media frenzy in Revis’ face (if he wants to partake) should be amazing.
As Joe brought you this morning, Pat Kirwan says Revis knows he holds all the cards in trade talks. And now former Bucs DE Steve White (1996-2001) dives deeper into Revis’ mindset on his blog. White doesn’t expect Revis to be so quick to take less than the $15 million+ he’s seeking.
Which leads us to the fact that traditionally big free agent spenders like the Cowboys, Redskins and Raiders couldn’t do much this year because of cap problems they probably won’t have next year. If you’re Revis, that means that if you make it to free agency next year the market probably won’t be as depressed as it was this year anyway. It remains to be seen if the Raiders will truly take a different tact and back off the big contracts next year but if I’m Revis why would I expect the Cowboys or Redskins to change?
Pretty much the only danger in holding out for a ridiculous contract from a team that trades for him for Revis would be if he didn’t get traded and ended up not playing at a high level. I think, however, that he would be willing to bet on himself in that way. I certainly would.
There’s more to White’s take, and you can click through above to read the whole thing.
Revis has proven to be a master negotiator. The guy has won two holdout battles with the Jets in six years. He’s not afraid to dig his heels in.
If the Bucs are going to make this trade before the NFL Draft, then there’s really limited time to have Bucs doctors thoroughly examine Revis, and have the Bucs brass negotiate a 2014-and-beyond contract with Revis’ agent.
The Jets are going to have to budge soon. There’s only so much the Bucs can do — or offer — without permission to work with/study Revis.
A couple of weeks ago, Joe wondered what a great fit durable, veteran right tackle Eric Winston could be for the Bucs. The guy is a very good player and hasn’t missed a game since 2006.
Joe was of the mind that Winston, who was purged in Kansas City’s overhaul, would be a significant upgrade to Demar Dotson and likely could be had cheap, or at least for less than the $4 million Jeremy Trueblood fleeced Tampa Bay for last season.
But now it’s clear that Winston, per Winston himself (via ProFootballTalk.com), will gladly accept a one-year deal for $3 million.
Winston said on Sirius XM NFL Radio that he knows he won’t get the kind of money he got last year from the Chiefs, when he signed a four-year, $22 million contract that included a $4 million signing bonus. The Chiefs cut him to avoid paying a $4.9 million base salary for 2013, and now Winston is just hoping some team will pay him more than $3 million in salary this year.
“In the $3-4 million range is something that I think is more than fair for a starter who has played pretty well throughout his career,” Winston said.
C’mon, New Schiano Order, get Winston to One Buc Palace for a workout. A move like this could immediately take the Bucs offense to a new level. It’s worth a closer look.
A team angling for a win-now transaction like trading for Darrelle Revis should be looking to complement that with other win-now moves that don’t mortgage the future.
Rockstar general manager Mark Dominik has only drafted one offensive lineman in four drafts — a fifth-rounder who didn’t pan out — for a reason. So Joe doesn’t see how signing Winston would get in the way of his philosophy.
Joe’s good friend, the creator, curator and overall guru of ProFootballTalk.com, the great Mike Florio, breaks down various angles of a Darrelle Revis trade in this NBCSports.com video.
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OK, before Joe gets going here, there is a new angle to what Joe has been banging on his keyboard for weeks now:
For every tick of the clock, the tighter the vice squeezes on Jets general manager’s John Idzik’s jewels. He has no leverage. He has but one team to trade cornerback Darrelle Revis. And if Revis walks away from the Jets after next year (he has an out in his contract with the Jets after the 2013 season), the Jets might get a third round pick in compensation.
As the creator, curator and overall guru of ProFootballTalk.com, the great Mike Florio, said yesterday on Pro Football Talk on NBC Sports Network, the way the NFL factors compensation is a complex maze of calculations that aren’t exactly predictable. As Florio pointed out, the Chargers got zero compensation for losing Vincent Jackson to the Bucs.
As Joe’s dad used to day, “It’s one thing to be stubborn and quite another to be stubborn and dumb.” If Idzik wants to be stubborn and dumb and roll the dice, Revis could leave the Jets high and dry.
If you were a thinking front office type, wouldn’t you be motivated to try to get any draft picks from Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik, not stomping your feet and saying, “I want the No. 13 pick or you can take a long walk on a short pier,” which Idzik is reported to have told Dominik.
Now many speculate the trade of Revis to the Bucs will happen the week of the draft or on draft day, which homeless-mistaken, olive oil-lapping, popcorn-munching, coffee-slurping, fried-chicken-eating, oatmeal-loving, circle-jerking, beer-chugging, cricket-watching, scone-loathing, college football-naïve, baseball-box-score-reading Peter King of SI.com wrote is 16 “interminable days” away. That very well could happen but it’s hardly a rock solid deadline.
Surely, if the Bucs don’t trade for Revis before the draft, Dominik will draft a cornerback, maybe two, perhaps three. If Dominik were to make a trade for Revis after the draft, not that he may need to, Dominik would likely use one of those corners as a cog in such a swap.
Joe finds all the Revis news that popped yesterday to be interesting. There was virtually zero news for days if not weeks. Part of that is because Dominik, fingered by one as a mole, and all football personnel are in lockdown mode preparing for the draft. So busy are they, Joe learned the Bucs ordered meals to be delivered to One Buc Palace.
It sure smells to Joe like Revis’ agents are getting antsy as hell, which is why so many people had Revis news yesterday.
In certain circles, this is called a “plant.”
Pat Kirwan says Darrelle Revis won’t get paid anywhere near the money he wants and asserts that Revis is controlling the trade winds.
Former Jets linebackers coach and personnel executive Pat Kirwan, who currently is one of the busiest guys in NFL media, working for SiriusXM NFL Radio, CBS-TV and CBSSports.com, when he’s not writing football books, is one of Joe’s favorite insiders.
Kirwan packs a lot diverse knowledge into his takes. So Joe took note when Kirwan said recently on 770 AM in Fort Myers that Darrelle Revis won’t get paid outrageous money by the Bucs and the Jets should not trade him.
Kirwan asserts that Revis is in the driver’s seat, far more than Bucs or Jets management.
“Darrelle Revis controls this,” Kirwan said. “He’s going to manage that control by not accepting a new contract extension unless it’s the place he wants to go.”
Kirwan went on to explain that Revis wants $1 million per game and remains misguidedly convinced he can score that kind of money.
“He’s not going to get it, and his agent should be telling him that by now,” Kirwan said. “The market has changed and it’s changed permanently. Deals are down. There are so many one-year deals right now. You look at next year, you’re going to have 450 to 500 hundred free agents, plus another 150 free agents off one-year deals.”
The market will be flooded next season and team executives, Kirwan said, have told him they don’t want to pay Revis until they see him perform at a Pro Bowl level again.
Kirwan said the Bucs absolutely shouldn’t part with first-round picks, if they make a move for Revis. As for the Jets, Kirwan thinks they shouldn’t trade Revis.
The deal is “stuck in the mud until the Jets lower want they want, and they shouldn’t because they don’t have enough star players,” Kirwan said.
Joe’s written repeatedly that the Bucs would be insane to pay Revis anywhere close to the $16 million annually he’s seeking when the top free-agent corners on the market this season commanded $6 million, especially with Revis coming off a major injury. There’s no logic to that.
First it’s the Jets stonewalling. Then it’s the Bucs’ indecision from Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik.
Or is it the Bucs stonewalling or Jets general manager John Idzik’s indecision?
The pendulum has swung back and forth so much Joe isn’t sure, but in the latest of he-said/she-said moles dropping intelligence in the laps of reporters, Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times has learned the Jets are demanding the Bucs’ No. 13 pick this season for Darrelle Revis or they can forget about a trade.
The Bucs had hoped the Jets would consider a first-round pick in 2014 as part of the compensation for Revis but have been emphatically told that is not an option.
Tampa Bay is willing to pay Revis about $15-million per year, but the Dominik has not received permission to speak with the agents for the Jets star.
Because Revis is recovering from a torn ACL, the Bucs do not believe it is a trade that can be made on the clock because they would require him to be examined by multiple team doctors. Therefore, the Bucs have a loosely, self-imposed deadline of about a week before the draft to complete a trade for Revis, the Times has learned.
Here is what Joe, if he were Dominik, would tell Mr. Idzik, who has about three months of job experience:
“John, you know there is only one team that can fit Revis’ salary under the cap. That’s my team. Now you can roll the dice and watch Revis walk away after next year because your owner caved on the franchise tag option. When Revis walks, you will only get a third round pick (maybe) next year in compensation. I am offering a first round pick next year.
“When you are finished with your math, call me. In the meantime, I have two corners to focus on who I’m going to draft in two weeks as well as re-signing Mr. Eric Wright. And in three weeks, I don’t think I will even want Revis at all.
“And no, I have no use for Tim Tebow outside of church on Sundays. Thanks for your time.”
The QB who said he took zero first-team reps in practice last season is about to return for his second season as
Josh Freeman’s competition the Bucs’ backup quarterback.
Per the Twitterings of Bucs beat writer Roy Cummings, Dan Orlovsky will re-sign with the Bucs.
@RCummingsTBO – Hearing that Dan Orlovsky will re-sign with the Bucs today
Orlovsky signed a two-year deal before last season, got cut recently, and it’s pretty obvious he’ll be back at a reduced price. So the Bucs saved a few nickels and at least have a guy in the mix who knows the system.
Whether this cuts the odds that the Bucs draft a quarterback later this month is unknown.
Nobody knows what the hell the Bucs have planned at tight end. Healthy free agent Dallas Clark hasn’t generated a whisper across the NFL this offseason, and perhaps the Mike Sullivan offense has little use for the tight end if it can pound the rock behind the return of Davin Joseph and Carl Nicks.
But one thing about tight end is clear; newly signed Tom Crabtree will have every opportunity to impress.
Packers head coach Mike McCarthy, in fact, was still talking about Crabtree’s blocking and versatility after he signed with the Bucs. In a Journal-Sentinel story today out of Milwaukee exploring the Packers replacing Crabtree’s blocking, Green Bay beat writer Tom Silverstein quotes McCarthy from the NFL owners meetings.
“Because we do like the flexibility of Ryan Taylor, D.J. Williams and Tom Crabtree when he was there. And obviously Jermichael’s more of an on-and-off type player. That formula of getting the athlete and having one or two big guys, it factored a little bit in how we played last year,” McCarthy said.
Silverstein goes on to write that Crabtree turned down the Packers’, one-year, $715,000 offer for 2013.
Joe’s not banging a drum for Crabtree. Outside of being thoroughly hilarious on Twitter (@tcrabtree83), Crabtree has 18 catches in three seasons. He better be a solid blocker.
Frankly, Joe’s not sure what the Bucs want to invest at tight end — on the field and off. They passed on the top free agent names, Clark is walking the streets, and Luke Stocker hasn’t been used much. Joe could easily see the Bucs doing nothing in the draft at TE, or going the opposite direction and drafting Tyler Eifert in the first round.
Yes, Bucs fans who want Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis on the Bucs roster aren’t tied up in what the compensation will be and, in fact, want Revis in Tampa Bay now!
Those fans will have to find a hobby in the coming days, as Jets general manager John Idzik is in no hurry whatsoever to consummate a deal with the Bucs. That’s the information dropped by Jets beat writer Conor Orr, who types for The Star-Ledger located in the Garden State.
Orr was a guest on the dreadful NFL AM show on NFL Network, a show that to the bewilderment of Joe, spends more time talking about how NFL players dance than how NFL players, you know, play football!
(Column intermission: Please, powers that be at the NFL Network, will you just STOP IT with this fetish for dancing! We, red-blooded football fans of America, turn to your beautiful network to gain information about our beloved sport and could not care less how an NFL player dances, nor do we give two rats’ arses about his touchdown celebrations. Only the E! Network, MTV and Entertainment Tonight types are interested in this schlock because they, kind sirs, are not football fans. In the immortal words of Chucky, knock it off! If the only way to keep Nicole Zaloumis’ attention is to waste hours and massive amounts of electricity a day on this subject, then Joe dares to suggest it is time to get a new co-host, specifically promote Molly Qerim to the gig. At least she’s a football chick — in addition to being dropdead gorgeous.)
Mark Kriegel: Conor, what are the Jets holding out for? Is it really a matter of this year’s first round pick [from the Bucs]?
Conor Orr: It could be. I definitely know Idzik wants compensation in this year’s draft and it seems Tampa Bay is kind of pushing things towards 2014 just because they have a really high 2013 pick. I think that is what [Idzik] is waiting for but at the end of the day, it is how he does business. He is very slow. He is very pragmatic. At the end of the day this is the biggest decision he will ever have to make as the Jets general manager. So he is trying as hard as he can to get the best compensation to maybe even [delay] some time in order to pull out another suitor. Apparently that is why this process is taking so long.
This is why Joe believes Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik has all the cards. If the Jets don’t trade Revis by the trade deadline of the 2013 season, he walks out on his contract. By the time August rolls around, teams will have their salaries budgeted. Teams aren’t going to be able to just find $12-15 million in cap space like the Bucs have to make room for Revis starting in 2014.
And if the Bucs draft two corners in the first three rounds, Idzik is totally boxed in by Dominik.
The angling, intrigue and mystery of the expected Revis-to-Bucs trade doesn’t confuse PewterReport.com chieftain Scott Reynolds. He was on 98.7 FM this morning proclaiming loudly and proudly that rockstar general manager Mark Dominik is the unknown source beyond the latest twist in the Revis saga.
Reynolds said Dominik was the driving force behind Jason Cole, of Yahoo! Sports, penning some specifics on trade talks.
“I’m sure [Dominik] had a phone call to Jason Cole,” Reynolds said this morning. Dominik is “very good at using the media.”
Here’s Joe’s need-to-know from Cole’s story.
The Buccaneers are not only willing to trade a combination of a first-, third- and sixth-round picks for Revis, they are also willing to pay the corner in the area of $15-16 million per year on a long-term contract.
Idzik, who did not return a text message sent to him by Yahoo! Sports, has been coy about trading Revis. He has repeatedly said he is not “actively” trying to trade Revis, though multiple teams have said he is willing to listen to offers.
First, with all the BS flying around about Revis, it’s an extraordinarily bold claim from Reynolds to say Dominik is Cole’s unnamed source. After all, it was Cole who was so certain, via multiple sources, Aqib Talib was going to serve a four-game suspension in 2011, for his role in the gunfire that arose from a family squabble in Texas. The NFL did nothing, and Talib’s charges were dropped a year later.
Second, Joe doesn’t believe the Bucs will pay Revis anywhere in the neighborhood of $16 million annually on a long-term deal.
That’s just wacky talk when the top corner on the market this offseason scored about $6 million per year. Joe could see Revis scoring three years guaranteed from the Bucs at $12 million annually. That makes Revis the top-paid corner in the league by a solid margin — from the organization that repeatedly has said it won’t overpay for players.