Saints Used A Herm Edwards Teaching

October 23rd, 2012

Check out the strong interview accessible below with Bucs icon John Lynch on 98.7 FM, where Lynch joined Gary and The Commish this afternoon.

Among many other subjects, Lynch said he was disappointed that his FOX producers cut the TV broadcast off so fast after the final play before he could explain the push-out rule, in regards to defensive backs going after receivers when a quarterback leaves the pocket. Lynch said Herm Edwards “used to preach that all the time” back in the early glory years of Bucs football.

On the alleged shenanigans regarding the disupted field goal defense, Lynch said it’s very much a NFL maneuver and shared that Brad Culpepper was a master at barking out distracting signals.

Lynch weighs in on plenty more. Enjoy.

Can’t-Miss Bucs Watch Party On Thursday!

October 23rd, 2012

It’s time to get a little loud and bond with your fellow Bucs fans while watching the New Schiano Order Bucs in Minnesota on Thursday night at Tilted Kilt in Clearwater.

This is going to be the place to be for this game. The Bucs on Thursday Night Football!!

Tilted Kilt has it all, indoor and outdoor seating, great food, the sizzling Kilt girls, a classy layout, and great viewing. The game audio will be heard everywhere, and Joe’s got lots of jerseys and hats to giveaway. There’s nothing better than the energy of a great sports bar scene rocking for the home team. Be there!

Mason Foster’s Crime Was Saying, “Huh… Huh.”

October 23rd, 2012

Joe had hoped to turn the page on the stinging loss to the Saints and concentrate on the Vikings game Thursday night. But Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik walked into the press room at One Buc Palace to give the pen and mic club an update this afternoon, and a clarification on the unsportsmanlike penalty called on Mason Foster. The flag game on a field goal defensive shift that gave New Orleans a first down, which led to a touchdown.

The Bucs, of course, lost by a touchdown.

“Just to update, I have been in touch with the league office on “that play,” [the unsportsmanlike conduct penalty on the field goal defensive unit]. Everything from a defensive line [standpoint] is legal, the shifting. Mason Foster, everything he did in terms of movement, is legal. Everything,” Dominik said.

“The only thing that is up for discussion on why the flag was thrown was the disconcerting sound of which the league office said they [the umpire] heard was ‘Huh… huh.’ That’s what the umpire said he heard.

“Now we have run the play with success before. In Washington. It is clear that we ran that play in Washington. There is no audio transcript of the New Orleans play. At that point it was a judgment, that’s what [the umpire] thought he heard. That’s why the flag was thrown.

“It is a legal play. Up to the point of what is it that the player actually say. We coach the players to say the same thing as they did in Washington. This is not a play that Greg took from Rutgers or college. It’s a play we have already seen at the NFL level and already had success with it. That’s why we did it again. I will let the coaching staff decide if we see it again or use it again. At the end of the day, legally, it is a legal play up to when the linebacker says what he said on the move call. At that point it is up to the umpire as to what he heard.

“As long as you are not simulating the sound of the count it is permitted. Not specifically the word.

“There are a lot of different elements to it (including messing up blocking assignments). Could you block it, could you get a false start? All of those are part of the reason to help us find a way to win.”

Dominik also spoke about the last play of the game, where the officials ruled that Mike Williams had been pushed out of bounds, which the officials ruled was legal because Josh Freeman had moved out of the pocket.

Dominik said the team had no issue about that call because the team believed the call was correct.

“It is standard; it was a good play by them,’ Dominik said. “When the quarterback gets out of the pocket you are allowed to push a player out of bounds. It’s a legal play.”

Do What You Are Supposed To Do!

October 23rd, 2012

It was a galling loss to the Saints Sunday at the stadium on Dale Mabry. The Bucs defense allowed Saints receivers to run wild like antelope on the Alaskan tundra, making Saints receiver Lance Moore look like a Canton first-ballot inductee.

Bucs defensive lineman George Johnson said the slip in the Bucs defense was simple: People weren’t doing their jobs.

In the second half, the Bucs somewhat buckled down, sans the touchdown gifted by the Bucs after some illegal hollering by the field goal defense.

“The first half we got out of doing what we were supposed to do,” Johnson said. “The second half we did what we talked to do the whole week and that is to play them, just try to get our hand up and get in their face and disrupt them the whole time,” Johnson said.

E.J. cornerback E.J. Biggers agreed with Johnson but was much less specific. Biggers said over and over that the Bucs just needed to do their jobs. When Joe pressed what exactly that was, Biggers smiled sheepishly and said, “We just needed to do our jobs, that’s all I can tell you.”

“You just know in these division games it is always going to be a dogfight,” Johnson said. Drew Brees is “a great player, a Hall of Fame caliber quarterback. It’s hard to contain anyone in this league and he is one of the best.”

That will be different Thursday night. Samantha Steele-bedding Christian Ponder is not quite yet mentioned in the same breath as Brees, and is coming off a very pedestrian outing with a grand total of 58 yards passing.

Another Tough One For The Kick Return Game

October 23rd, 2012

Maybe Arrelious Benn got antsy after a touchback Sunday? Maybe his coaches encouraged him to try and make something happen out of the endzone? Maybe the lead blocker in front of him gave him the go signal?

But with the Bucs leading 21-14 Sunday, Benn fielded a kickoff eight yards deep in the end zone and returned it to the Bucs’ 8 yard line.

Huh? Not a good idea with a lead, plus there was no apparent opening anywhere, and Benn didn’t try anything out of the ordinary.

Damn that south end zone wasn’t kind to the Bucs against the Saints.

Last week Greg Schiano candidly said he was displeased with his kick return game but Benn’s role in it would not be affected.

The Bucs only got to return one kickoff Sunday. And it was that mess to the 8 yard line.

There’s little time this week to work on the details of kickoff return, but somehow the Bucs need to find a way to straighten it out.

Can’t-Miss Bucs Watch Party On Thursday

October 23rd, 2012

It’s time to get a little loud and bond with your fellow Bucs fans while watching the New Schiano Order Bucs in Minnesota on Thursday night at Tilted Kilt in Clearwater.

This is going to be the place to be for this game. The Bucs on Thursday Night Football!!

Tilted Kilt has it all, indoor and outdoor seating, great food, the sizzling Kilt girls, a classy layout, and great viewing. The game audio will be heard everywhere, and Joe’s got lots of jerseys and hats to giveaway. There’s nothing better than the energy of a great sports bar scene rocking for the home team. Be there!

Bucs Football On Wednesday And Thursday

October 23rd, 2012

Of course, you’re already gearing up to come to Joe’s big Bucs-Vikings watch party at Tilted Kilt on Thursday.

But now you’ll also be able to watch the Bucs on TV on Wednesday, too.

NFL Network is replaying the fancy, condensed version of the Bucs-Saints game at 9 p.m. Wednesday. These replays are very cool, with loads of commercials and breaks chopped out and fancy NFL Films views sprinkled in.

Joe’s already watched the game a second time, and Joe can attest that it was fun but no less painful.

Tampa Bay Is Team TFL

October 23rd, 2012

Dive deep into the Bucs’ defensive statistics and it’s downright amazing how highly the Bucs rank in various areas of run defense. The “swarm” Greg Schiano preaches is buzzing loudly.

Not counting kneel-downs, the Bucs defense leads the NFL in forcing negative yardage plays (8.7-per-game average), which is even more stunning considering the Bucs only have a flimsy eight sacks through six games.

Those “TFLs” (tackles for loss) Schiano often references? The Bucs lead the NFL in forcing negative runs (28), and Tampa Bay has played one less game than many clubs.

Bucs leaders in tackles for loss (TFLs)
LB Lavonte David                     9
LB Mason Foster                       8
DE Michael Bennett                  5
DT Gerald McCoy                      5

All those numbers represent an amazing overhaul of the Bucs run defense after Tampa Bay repeatedly got gutted and gashed since the December 2008 collapse began in Carolina through the entire Raheem Morris era.

Nobody runs on the Bucs anymore — unless it’s receivers frolicking through the secondary.

Tampa Bay allows 3.1 yards per carry, best in the NFL. Against New Orleans Sunday, the Saints literally could have ended the game in the fourth quarter when they ran Darren Sproles on 3rd-and-3 from their own 39 yard line. There were two minutes left and the Bucs were out of timeouts. A first down there gets the Saints to the kneel-downs. No dice. Sproles got one yard.

As for the Bucs secondary, well, Joe doesn’t want to look at those numbers. Hopefully, up-and-down Christian Ponder will be just what the doctor ordered on Thursday in Minnesota.

“The Tackle”

October 23rd, 2012

Not sure how many people were irresponsible yesterday and didn’t do their due diligence as football fans to browse through the must-read weekly Monday Morning Quarterback typed by smartphone-censoring, scone-loathing, cricket-watching, popcorn-munching, Marriott-sleeping Peter King of SI.com.

King broke down in great detail the tackle that will live long in Bucs fans memories when Vincent Jackson, who had a fantastic game for the Bucs, was caught from behind, prevented from scoring on a 95-yard touchdown reception by Saints’ Malcolm Jenkins.

The tackle on Jackson, and the subsequent four plays from hell, kept the Bucs from adding a score in what turned out to be a one-touchdown win by the Saints.

By King’s measurement, Jackson had a good 30-yard lead on Jenkins, who closed the gap in Secretariat-like speed.

I’ve looked up the dimensions of the NFL field, and ran the play over and over about 20 times on NFL Game Rewinds in the wee hours of this morning. This is what Jenkins faced as he turned from covering his man to look at Jackson catching the ball: He was at the far right hashmark on the other side of the field, precisely 27 yards across the field and three yards behind where Jackson was in full gallop. It looked impossible, but Jenkins said he didn’t think of that. “Just, ‘Go as fast you can.’ ”

Right away, you could see he might have a chance. Jackson, who’d been limited all week in practice because of a calf strain, was running at tight end speed. Jenkins, who runs about a 4.47-second 40-yard dash, took a very good angle, from watching the replay over and over. It looked like he aimed to go on a straight line from where he began, at about the Bucs’ 23, to the Saints’ 20. Running at a bad angle here would have ruined him. If he aimed to catch Jackson near the goal line, he wouldn’t be able to contact him in time.

“Vincent Jackson, he’s not slow,” Jenkins said. “I think what affected the play is we were in a regular Cover 2, and they quick-snapped the ball. Roman Harper went for the ball against Jackson, but they completed it, and then nobody’s around. So the first thing is to just run and see what happens.” When Jackson got to midfield, Jenkins was 10 yards to the side and six yards behind. “I saw him start to slow down a bit,” Jenkins said.

Joe was chatting with local scribes right before the game Sunday morning, and all agreed the Saints game was a crossroads game. The Bucs trying to win on the road Thursday is a monster obstacle, as it is for all NFL road teams on Thursdays, thus there is a very real possibility the Bucs could be staring at a 2-5 mark.

Chances of playing in January after losing five of your first seven games are not good at all.

And Bucs fans will look back to those five plays — the Jackson tackle, the three ill-fated LeGarrette Blount plunges up the gut, and Josh Freeman’s naked bootleg to nowhere — as the crossroads of a crossroads game.

Where Was The Stiff-Arm?

October 22nd, 2012

Yes, Joe’s obsessing about Saints DB Malcolm Jenkins making up about 30 yards on Vincent Jackson to tackle the Bucs’ No. 1 receiver after his Bucs-record-breaking catch and run for 95 yards yesterday– one yard from the end zone.

Joe’s stunned disbelief that Jackson was out-willed on the play is no reflection on anything else Jackson does or has done. Like any dramatic play or action in sports, it’s only one play, and Joe’s simply judging the moment.

Yeah, Joe realizes many fans say, “how dare you” question Jackson’s will on the play, Joe? Joe’s response is that there’s no other way to describe what happened. If the tables were flipped and Jenkins was, say, Mark Barron, every Bucs fan today would be lauding Barron for “wanting it” more than his opponent.

Take this video clip from Bucs history in 2008 (2:47 of the video), when Jermaine Phillips simply wanted the ball more than the Falcons tight end wanted a touchdown. It was a huge play in that big game. Just an amazing show of will by Phillips. Yesterday, Jenkins gave the Saints that kind of extreme desire.

Chris Webber’s famous timeout that his Michigan basketball team didn’t have left for him to call, or Bucs running back’s coach Earnest Byner’s fumble that shocked the NFL and people of Cleveland, or Bill Buckner’s World Series gaffe, these were miscues that were magnified by the circumstances. 

Jackson’s failure was magnified by the Bucs’ inability to score on first-and-goal from the 1 yard line, and Jackson getting caught has flummoxed many an observer. And while it’s hardly of the magnitude of the famous ones mentioned above, it’s still a mind-blower being talked about today.

Joe ran into a couple of random Bucs fans at Publix — and talked to a Saints fan on the phone — and that’s the first thing they wanted to chat about this afternoon. 

One can speculate all day long that Jackson was somewhat hobbled by a calf strain, though that’s rather illogical considering his production and watching him run routes yesterday before and after that 95-yard play.

Perhaps the bigger mystery is why Jackson, after turning his head back three times during the run, to presumably see Jenkins, didn’t switch the ball into his left hand and try and fight off Jenkins, or make a dive for the pylon.

It’s one thing to run out of gas; it’s another thing to run out of gas and out of fight. Buccaneers Radio Network analyst and former tight end Dave Moore had no explanation during an appearance with the Ron and Ian Show this morning.

“I’m not really sure because we’ve seen him run,” Moore said of what happened to Jackson. “We’ve seen him run by defenders. Once that ball was tipped and then he caught it, he was never really in the fifth gear to slow down to third gear. He just never really, I guess he’s been bothered by a calf or something. I mean, you know, whether he was tired when he caught the ball to run, or either way, we can analyze it anyway we want. If he puts the ball in the left hand throws a stiff-arm, he can probably drag the guy for another two yards. But there are plenty of opportunities to second guess it.”

Jackon did nothing to end any speculation after the game and he discovered his stiff-arm move for prying reporters.

Joe’s still a big fan of Jackson, but he fell a small notch in Joe’s eyes for that play.

Bucs Busted For “Words,” Not Shift

October 22nd, 2012

The NFL claims Bucs linebacker Mason Foster said something to try to get the Saints to jump offsides during a field goal attempt, which is an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. What Foster said is still a mystery.

The servers in the NFL Manhattan offices must have overheated this morning as a result of the mysterious unsportsmanlike penalty call on the Bucs, which negated a Saints field goal attempt and instead set up a Saints touchdown.

Oh, and the Saints won by a touchdown Sunday.

The NFL has “clarified,” in the words of Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times, what happened on the play in question.

According to league spokesman Jon Zimmer, “Tampa Bay was penalized yesterday for Unsportsmanlike Conduct for using disconcerting signals, defined as ‘words designed to disconcert an offensive team at the snap,’ in Rule 12, Section 3, Article 1 of the NFL rule book.

And the NFL also specified the words came from Mason Foster, per Stroud.

So there you have it. The shift, which Bucs coach Greg Schiano maintained was legal, was legal, per the NFL.

Just whatever Foster said wasn’t.

Bucs fans can now rest. The issue is over.

“Quite Frankly, It’s A Legal Play.”

October 22nd, 2012

Add me to the list. Quite frankly it’s a legal play.” — Greg Schiano.

Schiano said at his news conference today that he’s among those who don’t understand what went wrong when the Bucs’ defensive shift on a field goal attempt — and the call to shift — drew a key 15-yard penalty Sunday.

Rather than a 51-yard field goal try, the Saints got a first down and drove for a touchdown. Schiano pointed out the Bucs did the “exact same thing” against the Redskins. Seen here.

The leader of the New Schiano Order did not offer specifics but said since game officials flagged the Bucs against the Saints it’s unlikely he will use that field-goal block tactic again.

Saints Tip Off Refs To Illegal Field Goal Defense

October 22nd, 2012

A lot is being made of the Bucs field goal defense yesterday, when the zebras threw a flag, unsportsmanlike conduct, that turned a field goal attempt into a first down and an eventual Pierre Thomas touchdown for New Orleans

It appears the Saints did their homework and helped draw the flag.

The Bucs used a shift against the Redskins that was deemed legal by the zebras — missed. The Saints didn’t think so, and clearly noticed it by studying game film.

So yesterday when the Saints attempted a field goal, per Robert Klemko of USA Today, the Saints alerted the referees to be on the look out for illegal tactics by the Bucs.

“I haven’t seen it in the pros, because it’s against the rules,” said defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis. “You’re allowed to do your shifts but you’re not allowed to yell to try to get the offense to go offsides.”

Saints guard Jahri Evans said game officials were notified of the practice before the play.

“I think that’s just what they’re being taught,” he said. “And that’s what we told the refs — they can’t try to draw us offsides in that situation or in any part of the game. I haven’t seen that in a long time. I played Division II, and they didn’t even do that in DII. It was definitely done to draw us offsides and we all knew it.”

Joe will have a post on this later, but Joe will break down the shift. Ss Joe mentioned this morning, the Bucs players could have yelled “Goodell” and it still would have resulted in a flag.

Tale Of Two Sides In Running Stats

October 22nd, 2012

Doug Martin had a bit of a breakout game yesterday. He looked sharp, quick and like a yungry first-round pick, including a 36-yard touchdown run that was well-blocked and only required Martin to break one tackle.

And it’s no coincidence that run went left.

This season, per the stat geeks at ESPN, Martin is averaging 4.9 yards per carry running left, and only 3.7 yards to the right. Up the middle, he’s at 3.1 yards per carry. Running wide left also shows a big, positive difference than running wide right.

On the left side, the Bucs present beasts Carl Nicks and Donald Penn, who have been nothing short of stellar pass blockers, as well. On the right side, it’s green Jamon Meredith and Demar Dotson, who have a combined 13 career starts. And those guys folded like a tent on the final play of the first half that represented a key shot for the Bucs to get in field goal range.

Joe points this out because it’s all so glaring. The loss of Davin Joseph can not be measured.

“People Are Happy With Being Below Mediocre”

October 22nd, 2012

Ian Beckles is displeased by the mindset of many Bucs fans.

The former Bucs guard (1990-1996) turned radio talking head thinks a reality check is in order. 

“Listening to the talk today, I’m finding that people are happy with being below mediocre. Ok. We have to stop doing that because we lost to a bad football in our house by a touchdown.” Beckles said on WDAE-AM 620. “Just think of it that way. Ok. We lost to a bad football team. Why are they bad? Because they’re porous. Defensively they’re porous all over the place.”

Are Bucs fans “happy?” as Beckles suggests. Joe’s not so sure.

Joe suspects the prevailing vibe is more one of patience and temporary contentment. No ghosts of 2011 have emerged (minus Talib shenanigans) and there are clear signs of progress in so many phases of Bucs football.

Joe expected much of what has been seen from the Bucs through six games. They’ve been competitive yet inconsistent, playing hard and emerging, while still going through brutal new-coach, new-system growing pains.

Joe predicted the Bucs would gel in the second half of the season and finish with six wins. That still feels about right.

Apparently Field Goal Defense Must Shut Mouths

October 22nd, 2012

So now we are getting clarity about the mysterious unsportsmanlike conduct call against the Bucs when the Saints were lining up to attempt a 51-yard field goal.

The Saints, instead of kicking, were gifted a first down and five plays later scored.

In a manner of speaking, the Bucs (and other teams), must, in the immortal words of former Tampa Bay Lightning coach John Tortorella, “shut your yap.”

Per eye-RAH! Kaufman of the Tampa Tribune, Lavonte David claimed someone on the Bucs yelled to shift, which the defense did (apparently, also illegal), and the zebras heard the foul word(s).

“According to the official, we said something we shouldn’t have,” Bucs rookie LB Lavonte David said. “All we said was, ‘Move,’ and they said we can’t do that. It was a crucial moment for sure.”

Now late Sunday night on WFLA-TV Channel 8 news, Dan Lucas, by way of Woody Cummings of The Tampa Tribune, claimed Roy Miller stated the Bucs yelled “shift,” and that’s why they were flagged.

Saints guard Jahri Evans, per Kaufman, claimed he heard someone on the Bucs yell “Go.”

There is a common denominator here. For all Joe knows, the Bucs could have yelled, “Goodell!” and have been penalized.

To sum it up, shut up when the other teams is attempting a field goal, please.

Saints Ran On 41 Percent Of Plays

October 22nd, 2012

The numbers illustrate just how ugly the Bucs’ pass defense — and pass rush — was.

Greg Schiano played prophet on the Buccaneers Radio Network before the Bucs’ loss to the Saints yesterday.

The leader of the New Schiano Order said he was confident the Saints would emphasize their running game against the Bucs in big way because that’s what gets their offense balanced and humming.  

Sure enough, the Saints ran on 41 percent of their offensive plays, and Drew Brees was hardly scrambling for his life from the Bucs’ pass rush — unfortunately.

That’s not a typical percentage from the pass-happy Saints.

Pierre Thomas, Mark Ingram and Darren Sproles mixed in 25 carries for 80 yards, and Brees added one carry for one yard. The Bucs’ run defense was strong. The Saints’ 3.1 yards-per-carry is what the Bucs have been allowing all season. And that ranks No. 1 in the NFL.

It’s the Bucs’ pass defense and pass rush that are the problems — big problems.

Saints Crowing Over Vincent Jackson Tackle

October 22nd, 2012

Yeah, Joe touched upon this yesterday, the Vincent Jackson tackle after he rolled 95 yards but didn’t score. Malcolm Jenkins made up about 30 yards to catch Jackson from behind.

It was the longest pass completion without a touchdown since the Vikings Ahmad Rashad caught a 98-yard pass without scoring against the Los Angeles Rams in 1972.

And one could point out that cost the Bucs the game since the Bucs tried to shoot off a toe by running LeGarrette Blount up the middle for nothing three straight times, and then Josh Freeman tried a naked bootleg to nowhere.

Now, the Bucs are 2-4 and potentially staring at a 2-5 record after Thursday (road teams on Thursday night games struggle mightly). If that happens, it’s time to start pestering Joe’s good friend Justin Pawlowski about the 2013 draft.

One might say Jenkins’ effort could change an entire season. The Saints sure are.

In talking to Marriott-sleeping, cricket-watching, scone-loathing, popcorn-munching, smartphone-censor Peter King of Sports Illustrated last night, per ProFootballTalk.com creator, curator and overall guru Mike Florio, Jenkins was crowing about just that — that his tackle will reverse the fortunes of the Saints this season.

Was it a season-changing play, King asked? “Defensively, it was,” Jenkins said.

Jenkins said he was on the other side of the field when Jackson made the short reception. Jenkins told himself “take off” and sprinted toward Jackson in the hopes of bringing him down short of the end zone. Though it looked as if Jackson slowed down in anticipation of scoring, Jenkins believed that Jackson was simply “a little bit tired.”

Look, if the Bucs had called some intelligent plays after Jackson was caught, Joe wouldn’t be typing about this very subject, nor would King be calling Jenkins. In fact, he’d be talking to Jackson for racking up a Bucs-record 216 yards.

Joe has a bad feeling that play will be more remembered for what could have or should have been rather than for what it was: a 95-yard catch.

LeGarrette Blount Is Not Mike Alstott

October 22nd, 2012

Before Joe gets rolling here, let Joe be clear for anyone even slightly confused: Joe’s a big LeGarrette Blount guy. Regular readers know this. Joe just wants to be upfront about this fact as you read the following:

Never again should Blount be used as a short-yardage battering ram straight up the gut.

Yesterday, Joe literally did a facepalm when the Bucs, with first-and-goal late in the game at the Saints-1, tried to ram the ball up the middle using Blount.

Granted, Blount had little to no room to run. The Saints defensive front was getting penetration on the Bucs much of the game. First, when has Blount ever demonstrated he can be Mike Alstott, who, even without room, was able to move bodies at the line of scrimmage?

That’s not Blount. It wasn’t Blount as a rookie (remember the Atlanta road game when he couldn’t pick up a yard deep in Dixie Chicks-territory?) and it isn’t happening now, nor in the foreseeable future.

Blount’s specialty is when he gets past the front level, and gets two steps of steam, he is lethal, he needs 10-12 rushes to get heated up, minimum.

Those rushes are not consecutive up the one-hole with no blocking to speak of.

Joe loves Blount, but he is not a power runner, and trying to force him to be three times to no avail cost the Bucs yesterday just as much as the zebras did.

Lots Of Fingers To Point

October 22nd, 2012

Yeah, the Mike Williams phantom touchdown stunk. But don’t blame the refs, in a manner of speaking, is what veteran sports columnist Gary Shelton explains. There were a lot of reasons the Bucs lost to the Saints, as Shelton details in this Tampa Bay Times video.