Jameis Watch: “Through The Wringer”
February 4th, 2015
Crab-legs-stealing, BB-gun-shooting, obscenity-hollering, Heisman-Trophy-winning, former national champion Jameis Winston, the pride of Florida State University, continues to look like a much better quarterback prospect than Mike Glennon and Josh McCown.
It’s Joe’s daily nugget on the Jameis Watch, celebrating the best quarterback to wear No. 5 ever in the state of Florida.
A couple of Sports Illustrated know-it-alls sat down with SI Now host Maggie Gray, a friend of Joe, to discuss Jameis Winston’s draft stock during the NFL’s new era of extreme sensitivity to violence against women.
The consensus here is that Winston will be scrutinized like no prospect in NFL history.
Joe’s sure Winston will be, and he should be. But unlike those in the video, Joe doesn’t thinks the Bucs will be scared off.
Enjoy.
February 4th, 2015 at 2:35 pm
JUST WINSTON BABY!!
February 4th, 2015 at 2:37 pm
Duemig had on a QB coach during SB week that had worked/was working extensively with Jameis. After the interview when they came back from break Duemig (who is a Mariota guy) said something to the effect of:
I can’t say what the coach just told me off the air, but I can say that it is coming close to changing my mind about the character concerns surrounding Jameis.
I’m sure the Bucs will get the exact same information and if it can turn around Duemig I have little doubt it will put the Bucs brass at ease.
Can’t wait to have a real QB on this team for the first time in franchise history.
February 4th, 2015 at 2:38 pm
WWJBFD:
Just suppose that Cleveland falls in love with Marcus Mariota and offers the Bucs:
!. Their 12th overall pick (first round)
2. Their 19th overall pick (first round)
3. AND….drum roll…….Joe’s prom-date from the 2014 draft, Johnny Football
just sayin……
Would Would Joe(s) do?
February 4th, 2015 at 2:40 pm
Hey the last guy’s name is really Mr. Patrick.
February 4th, 2015 at 2:44 pm
@87
Exactly, a very smart man!
February 4th, 2015 at 2:48 pm
they all agree he’s gonna drop in the draft. lol
jameis , the rapist, winston will never be a buc. they will trade the pick and build the trenches and hand the rains to the CANNON.
February 4th, 2015 at 2:48 pm
Yea Tom I asked a similar question yesterday. Btw, another player, a rb from Dallas (Russell?) got arrest for possession and/or domestic violence last night.
February 4th, 2015 at 2:49 pm
Okay…I’m going to wait a little a bit and let this thread fill up a little before I drop my funny find.
February 4th, 2015 at 2:49 pm
mariota would be a reach and winston will be in prison. only choice is trade the pick. this is from an unbiased opinion
February 4th, 2015 at 2:50 pm
If the Bucs give up the number one overall pick for 2 first rounders and a QB that’s currently in rehab then the Tampa Bay community should collectively come together and have everyone in the owners office and front office Baker Acted immediately for their own good
February 4th, 2015 at 2:51 pm
Like I said before, there is no Franchise QB in this draft
February 4th, 2015 at 2:51 pm
much like hernandez the habitual murderer, rapist often repeat their crimes.
it’s not a matter of if, but when….
February 4th, 2015 at 2:53 pm
@87
Don’t worry, I’ve got something good for later also
February 4th, 2015 at 2:55 pm
87haswood
Why does that have any bearing on anything? I don’t understand why you’re talking about rapists since there are no rapists being discussed? Maybe you want to talk about Hernandez? Do you think you’re on a criminology website? Or a profiling website? Your last post has nothing to do with anything
:confused:
February 4th, 2015 at 3:00 pm
If Cleveland offered the #12, #19, a second rounder this year and next, plus Alex Mack, I’d take that deal.
February 4th, 2015 at 3:01 pm
One would think Jameis actually had Mariota’s stats
February 4th, 2015 at 3:01 pm
If Winston can keep his head through this process and the extra scrutiny thanks to the NFL, Rice, McDonald, Sapp and a few – he can really be the poster child for perseverance in the future.
He could easily go from the bad guy to hero if he matures and turn this team around!
February 4th, 2015 at 3:02 pm
If you want to see the kind of scrutiny Winston will be under during this investgative time, Google “The Tricky Calculus Of Drafting Jameis Winston”
It goes along with Joe’s video
February 4th, 2015 at 3:04 pm
Keep up the character assassinations.
It will change absolutely nothing on April 30th. Jameis #1 to the Bucs.
Get in or get a new team.
February 4th, 2015 at 3:05 pm
For all of you trade down guys can we just wait to watch the combine, pro days and let teams do their private workouts? For 87 you really should look into becoming Jameis’s publicist or PR guy you would do a hell of a sales job, probably get him commercials, shoe deals and plenty of marketing opportunities. You honestly would!
February 4th, 2015 at 3:05 pm
Remember when the Eagles took Mike Mamula instead of Warren Sapp bc of Sapp’s character issues? How’d that work out for ’em?
February 4th, 2015 at 3:05 pm
@ Architek
Or, he could come here and keep up his act and make the Bucs a laughing stock again
February 4th, 2015 at 3:06 pm
Mr. Patrick…I’ve already read that. Then of course I read everything Winston daily.
Here’s one thing you might have not noticed though. I’m posting this for you Mr Patrick and a few others to show it’s all in good fun. 🙂
As for the rest of you watch Joe’s video first I don’t want to steal his thunder.
Sorry. No video links, please.–Joe
February 4th, 2015 at 3:09 pm
@ Cream
You are comparing apples to oranges. Sapp had doubters because he smoked a little weed. Winston shows a history and pattern of bad behavior and character issues, plus something as serious as being accused of Rape. Plus, this is the #1 pick in the draft we are talking about, something you don’t take a major chance or risk with
February 4th, 2015 at 3:12 pm
Jameis Winston stood on a table and yelled “f%#k her right in the p&%sy” on campus today. #FaceOfFranchise #RapistWit #JustSayNo
February 4th, 2015 at 3:13 pm
Sapp the only dumbass that tries to rape a hooker. Smdh
February 4th, 2015 at 3:15 pm
All you jameis haters are funny.
February 4th, 2015 at 3:16 pm
Jameis Winston says ‘moaning’ was consent at FSU hearing. Dec. 23, 2014
#TheCreepyCrab #FaceOfFranchise #JustSayNo
February 4th, 2015 at 3:17 pm
OmG, Ronde Barber had sex…….on a table……. with his wife
February 4th, 2015 at 3:17 pm
87
Rotf! Ty
February 4th, 2015 at 3:18 pm
@joe – is something wrong with the audio from the duemig spot? I can’t download it and noticed you haven’t posted it. Should I stop looking?
Tech error on the station website. When it’s corrected, Joe will get the audio up. –Joe
February 4th, 2015 at 3:18 pm
@87
That was frikin great! And all of this is in good fun. We get on each other and call each other out but you are right, it’s all in good fun. If we ever run into each other at a Bucs game or function I will buy you a great big beer and we will have some laughs
February 4th, 2015 at 3:19 pm
Jameis Winston cited for shoplifting crab legs at Publix
#TheCreepyCrab #FaceOfFranchise #JustSayNo
February 4th, 2015 at 3:21 pm
Winston was questioned about his involvement in a long-running BB gun battle, and that a Burger King reported Winston was stealing soda in a ketchup cup.
#TheCreepyCrab #FaceOfFranchise #JustSayNo
February 4th, 2015 at 3:24 pm
I never initiated the whole rape thing
jameis did when he raped a naive little white woman
February 4th, 2015 at 3:26 pm
Jameis Winston’s accuser files lawsuit against FSU (USAToday)
The lawsuit also alleges that the woman’s advocate in October 2013 “informed her that a second woman had come forward and reported being raped by Winston.” At the time, the woman indicated she would participate in disciplinary proceedings related to the other woman’s case, the complaint states. The lawsuit does not include any other details. (USAToday)
#TheCreepyCrab #FaceOfFranchise #JustSayNo
February 4th, 2015 at 3:27 pm
@patrick
At this point I’m bottomed out and I’m just hoping the kid just need to mature and the infrastructure around him to mature. He doesn’t have the issues that Manziel has so that’s a start but he’s not the character of Mariota but it’s all about winning and being able to be the face of a franchise.
Personally I like the kid’s swagger in the face of adversity!
February 4th, 2015 at 3:32 pm
It speaks volumes about the character and morals of the people who are promoting Jameis Winston. #Amazing
February 4th, 2015 at 3:33 pm
@87 great post on that video i needed a good laugh today had to walk out of the office after seeing him on the other side of that deadliest catch video.
February 4th, 2015 at 3:35 pm
table
February 4th, 2015 at 3:38 pm
I like QBs that can throw 4 INTs and still win the game.
February 4th, 2015 at 3:41 pm
Hey didn’t russe wilson throw 4 picks against gb. Guess he sucks too
February 4th, 2015 at 3:52 pm
@ WS99
If the Gators would have had any kind of offense at all FSU would have lost badly
February 4th, 2015 at 3:58 pm
Your are correct Patrick, there are no franchise QB’s in this draft but it seems like all the jockeying being done is being done to get closer to Mariota.
Jamie’s is not a rapist, but has some bit character questions and issues. See Joe’s preference for a No. 1 draft pick in 2014, Johnny Manzell.
I doubt if anyone even looks at Winston until the second round because of these issues. That and the fact he isn’t ready to start.
For that reason,if th Browns want to trade both No. 1’s, a two or thir left tackl then I say grab it and run.
Winston will probably still be around by the 12th pick and probably later on as well.
February 4th, 2015 at 3:59 pm
I just hope our center watches all his holes
February 4th, 2015 at 4:00 pm
I’d like to draft the hybrid of the two QBs….Lets call him Marcus Winston…
MW would be NFL ready…..be a fierce leader on the field…..make all the throws with a cannon for an arm….run like a cheetah….and be a boy scout off the field.
Unfortunately, Marcus Winston doesn’t exist…..too bad for us…..have to take a leap of faith either way….
February 4th, 2015 at 4:01 pm
Patrick
If, woulda, coulda, shoulda. Glennon shoulda coulda would 4 out of 5 games IF we had a defense. It all evens itself out.
February 4th, 2015 at 4:08 pm
The Gators had a formidable Defense. If we had ANY semblance of an offense FSU would have lost. But IF……………………………………………..
February 4th, 2015 at 4:09 pm
WS99
Yep. Folks seem to forget that not only did Glennon gut out that win against the Steelers, he also gave the Bucs a couple of 4th quarter leads that Lovie’s defense gave up
February 4th, 2015 at 4:19 pm
Patrick –
GLENNON also missed tons of throws in critical moments including the Steelers game. His ceiling is just not that of Winston or Mariota.
February 4th, 2015 at 4:23 pm
This years Manziel, hell drop like a rock. I don’t see him going in the first 2 rounds. The NFL is cracking down on guys like him, he’s a head case. We traded Mike Williams for waaaaaaay less than what this clown has accomplished.
February 4th, 2015 at 4:36 pm
@ Architek
Again, goes to whether the Bucs want to be patient or win now. If the Bucs will be patient they can take one of the QB’s and suffer through his learning process. If they want to win now, they will draft Leonard Williams and start Mike Glennon. But you know Lovie, he may trade for a QB or sign an experienced free . We just don’t know
February 4th, 2015 at 4:42 pm
While reflecting on last year’s Buccaneer debacle and the prospects of us getting our crap together. I have 2 words that will make you feel much better. CLEVELAND BROWNS. We are nowhere near the disaster that organization is.
February 4th, 2015 at 4:44 pm
SuperSam,
I agree with your comparison with Winston’s draft stock to Manziel’s draft stock from last year. I don’t necessarily think Winston will fall 2 rounds, but I completely agree that the NFL has lost its tolerance with players who demonstrate character deficits. It is not worth it to take a player with a pattern of questionable behavior with the number one pick.
February 4th, 2015 at 4:54 pm
YALL ARE JUST HATERS. HATERS GONNA HATE. MY MAN GONNA TAKE DA WORLD BY STORM AND IMA GET PAID!
February 4th, 2015 at 5:00 pm
I didn’t know starting Glennon would be a sign that the bucs were trying to win now. Both mariotta and Winston is better than the stork called Glennon. Boy, some of you guys should be doing stand up comedy. It gets no funnier than someone saying win now and Glennon in the same sentence. The funniest thing is he truly believes that crap.
February 4th, 2015 at 5:01 pm
Mariota is a potential homerun, Winston is a strikeout. At least we don’t listen to the Joes. Otherwise, we’d have Jonny Rehab or now the Rapist who might not even be in the league in 3 years. Wait til he signs a contract. I wonder how many money-hungry party girls are going to file lawsuits…
February 4th, 2015 at 5:08 pm
I’ve said it before and I will day it again jameis winston will be better than Andrew Luck. Just as mobile, better arm strength, more accurate, and most important a better leader when the chips are on the table. And keep in mind I would be thrilled to have Luck on my team. These people saying there is no franchise qb just don’t know what one looks like.
February 4th, 2015 at 5:14 pm
When almost EVERY analyst says the Bucs are taking Winston with the first pick within the next 2 months…THAT’S what usually happens.
Most of them don’t get the first pick wrong.
Maybe the 3rd, 4th or 5th pick in the first, but hardly the first pick.
So in 2 months when every analyst and mock drafter is out there saying the pick is going to be Winston. You can bank on it. Until then, we can just squabble back and forth.
February 4th, 2015 at 5:16 pm
@ndog
Thanks for the giant laugh! I read that and about choked on my adult beverage
February 4th, 2015 at 5:24 pm
mr. patrick, don’t you have a multi million dollar business to run?
February 4th, 2015 at 5:26 pm
Ndog’s comment is no where near as funny as the “if the bucs want to win now/Glennon comment. I am still laughing at that one.
February 4th, 2015 at 5:29 pm
WINSTONISMYBABYDADDY Says:
February 4th, 2015 at 4:54 pm
YALL ARE JUST HATERS. HATERS GONNA HATE. MY MAN GONNA TAKE DA WORLD BY STORM AND IMA GET PAID
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Welcome! We need more real females here, it’s nice to see a female talking football.
February 4th, 2015 at 5:35 pm
Laugh all you want but no one can dispute the facts I stated. Just like all the stuff you guys make up about jameis. You guys never use facts unlike the stuff I just posted. Who won more between the two? Who has the stronger arm? See you laugh but never address the facts and that is where you guys are missing the point. If we want to be great we need a qb like winston or luck and this is our chance to get one.
February 4th, 2015 at 5:37 pm
I’m getting me a creamsicle Winston jersey in less than 3 months.
Yipeeeee!
February 4th, 2015 at 5:42 pm
Just looked it up winston had a higher career qb rating than Luck and won a national title while having the exact same comp %. Oh yeah he did that in only two years of playing. And before you pull that competition argument please remember Luck played in the PAC 12.
February 4th, 2015 at 5:57 pm
Joe, you OWE Tom and answer
“Tom Edrington Says:
February 4th, 2015 at 2:38 pm
WWJBFD:
Just suppose that Cleveland falls in love with Marcus Mariota and offers the Bucs:
1. Their 12th overall pick (first round)
2. Their 19th overall pick (first round)
3. AND….drum roll…….Joe’s prom-date from the 2014 draft, Johnny Football
just sayin……
Would Would Joe(s) do?”
February 4th, 2015 at 6:19 pm
Jameis is a steaming pile. I have a daughter I can’t stand to look at him. I love the bucs it cost me as much to go to one game as it does for season ticket holders. Any team that drafts this pile I hope burns to the ground.
February 4th, 2015 at 6:25 pm
^^^^^^^
You’re obviously from Long Island
February 4th, 2015 at 6:28 pm
@ Cream
You should listen to the adults that know a lot more about this than you do. Listen and learn
February 4th, 2015 at 6:28 pm
Start choosing a new team to root for. Jameis to Tampa. Book it.
February 4th, 2015 at 6:29 pm
Manziel’s stock was questionable last year because of his style of on field play. That was a MUCH bigger deal to teams than his off the field antics. Teams were worried that he relied too much of on improvising and made dumb decisions with the football. There were some concerns about how hard he practiced, especially in the weeks that A&M played weaker opponents. When the draft was happening no one was really even talking about his character as much as whether his skills translate.
Winston’s character is the only issue and debate really between NFL pundits. Sure there are some who think his game is more flawed than others; but even those guys have him as a round 1 talent at worst (and probably top 10 talent). Kiper has said he would have been the no brainer talent pick over Clowney last year.
If there is ANYONE who has Winston as a 2nd rounder or later based on the on-the-field ability and talent I’d love to see a link. I’d be surprised if anyone even thought of him as anything worse than a top 5 or 10 talent in this draft.
February 4th, 2015 at 6:29 pm
@87
It will make a very nice trash bag
February 4th, 2015 at 6:46 pm
87HASWOODFORWINSTON Says:
February 4th, 2015 at 2:48 pm
they all agree he’s gonna drop in the draft. lol
jameis , the rapist, winston will never be a buc. they will trade the pick and build the trenches and hand the rains to the CANNON.
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Wow, 87 has a fan club… good job, 87!
I’m glad to see that you’ve went ahead and bypassed being charged, a fair trial, and pretty much anything else under the “innocent until proven guilty” and found Winston guilty in the Court of Your Opinion.
BTW, build the trenches, blah blah blah… How’s that elite LT working out of the Browns? Better yet, the Redskins have had elite LTs for the past 15+ years with Chris Samuels manning the most important line spot followed by Trent Williams…. and they’ve made the playoffs…. once? twice? Does it matter? You’ve gotta have the QB…Peyton Manning made the Super Bowl last season with Ken Clark as his LT… Nate Solder was a late 1st round pick…it is not necessary to have an elite LT to be successful. Oh, and there are definitely no ELITE LTs in this draft…NONE! Good, but not great.
February 4th, 2015 at 6:57 pm
NYBUCSfan what are going to say if this girl comes out that she is lying? Dude you know he was never even charged right?
February 4th, 2015 at 7:03 pm
I can only say this. If we draft Jameis #1 and he turns out to NOT be the second coming of Ben Roethlisberger and does NOT get us to the Super Bowl in three years, then there’s going to be incredibly LARGE amounts of crow to eat on this board.
IF we draft Jameis #1 and he gets in trouble off the field and busts because of it some of you will need to eat a lot more than crow.
I’ve never seen such certainty about a prospect when the bust rate for first rounders is 50%!!! The bust rate for former Heisman winners is off the freaking chart. But I know…Jameis will be the exception.
I just don’t know it as certainly as about 3/4’s of the posters here. But then I never went to FSU!!!
February 4th, 2015 at 7:04 pm
Yes, we remember that Luck played in the PAC 12, against teams like Oregon, Arizona State, Arizona, UCLA, USC, et al.
We also remember (those some of us choose to do so selectively) that Winston played in the ACC, against teams like Duke, North Carolina, Wake Forest, NC State, Syracuse, et al.
Comparing Luck with Winston is like comparing a Mustang GT to a Ford Concept car…one is accepted to be a great car…the other isn’t quite there yet, but could be.
February 4th, 2015 at 7:14 pm
Luck went to Stanford.
Winston got accepted to Stanford.
February 4th, 2015 at 7:16 pm
Brandon Says:
“Wow, 87 has a fan club… good job, 87!”
It was only a matter of time…lol
February 4th, 2015 at 9:17 pm
Nybucsfan Says:
February 4th, 2015 at 6:19 pm
“I have a daughter I can’t stand to look at…”
So you are a daughter hater too. LOL
February 4th, 2015 at 9:29 pm
What are the Vegas odds that he’ll bolt to the Big as a fallback option? He say he loves Both, and that’s his dream?
February 4th, 2015 at 9:32 pm
Just consider that proposition for Risk mgt. too.
February 4th, 2015 at 10:00 pm
JoeJoes Fungi Nails Says:
One would think Jameis actually had Mariota’s stats
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What? You mean “padded”?
February 4th, 2015 at 10:17 pm
keep dreaming bozo lover! glazers and lovie don’t want troubled players. GET OVER IT!!! BOZO IS NOT COMING TO TAMPA.
February 4th, 2015 at 10:18 pm
Pat Says:
February 4th, 2015 at 9:29 pm
“What are the Vegas odds that he’ll bolt to the Big as a fallback option? He say he loves Both, and that’s his dream?”
Wrong it’s NOT his dream. He says he loves both but football is his real passion.
Just check with me I’m the Winston authority and apparently I have wood for him dontcha know.
February 4th, 2015 at 10:20 pm
Uh oh…Tourett’s Mike is back pounding on his keys…
February 4th, 2015 at 10:42 pm
CROW CROW CROW 87 get a taste for it cuz you will be eating a lot of it!
February 4th, 2015 at 10:56 pm
Only jaBOo knows. Lol.
February 5th, 2015 at 1:08 am
Winston just brings s swagger. A desire to be the best. The guy wants to win and that passion is much needed here especially on offense. I mean its not like this guy is out of control. He’s not out partying with Drake on a Tuesday(Johnny Manziel) So if Johnny Manziel is worthy of a first round pick I think Jameis Winston deserves so way more. The Bucs should reach a little bit and draft Winston to be OUR NFL QB!
February 5th, 2015 at 2:05 am
Just like you have a taste for me, mikeh.