A Trade Could Send A Message

September 21st, 2026

Bucs GM Jason Licht.

Joe hasn’t written a 2026 Bucs season eulogy, far from it. But there is no question that the Bucs’ season is on the brink.

Collectively, the team is still soft, something that was supposed to be fixed in the offseason by adding new assistant coaches and more aggressive players.

It hasn’t worked. Losing to the Browns in a home-opener is more than a red flag.

So what’s the next step? Joe knows it’s not just sitting around saying, “Todd will get it fixed.”

Todd Bowles does not have a zero-tolerance policy for jogging defensive players and he may not be willing to bench underperformers.

So Joe would applaud if Buccaneers Ring of Honor general manager Jason Licht swung a trade soon to inject more accountability into the roster.

The status woe is not ok. Maybe a couple of shots from the front office could spark something. The Bucs certainly have talent that would be in demand.

121 Responses to “A Trade Could Send A Message”

  1. Scott Says:

    Get this guy out of here too. Can’t stand to see Jason’s face right now.

  2. BucinTiredofThis Says:

    Trade the head coach

  3. Couch Fan Says:

    This only works if the ReTodd is the one Traded otherwise its just going to be ore of the same no matter who he replaces them with.

  4. Mhystc Says:

    Fire the entire staff. Clean house. Jason Licht can go also.

    Bowles’ defense wasn’t too bad yesterday, but his scheme is still terrible. They made Watson look like a good QB. They do it with every bad QB. Watson will go back to being terrible next week.

    Zac Robinson—the Falcons wanted him gone for a reason, and you’re seeing the reason now.

    Clean house. Start fresh.

    New GM.
    New HC.
    New OC.
    New DC.

  5. Eric in Denver Says:

    Embarrassing

  6. Buc You Says:

    Sounds good. Trade Baker for a LB that can tackle and cover a TE, then start Daniels.

  7. Warren Brooks Lynch Says:

    Trade for WHOM!? LOL what 1 player is going to come in and change anything?

    You’d send a louder message just cutting Anzalone, immediately

  8. Mort Says:

    Be careful what you wish for if you want a new GM. JL isn’t perfect – because. NOVODY IS – but he’s by far the best one this franchise has ever had.

  9. Newbie Says:

    How about trading the HC? GM? CLEAN HOUSE. If that doesn’t work just cut a guy or 2. Start with Fabio.

  10. Dubcity6 Says:

    I get that Jason is yall friend.. but its time for yall to start holding him accountable too… if you said this team has too much talent.. its time yall take your bias out of it.. cause I dont see any talent.. and the proof is in the pudding.
    Joe sees talent. Others across the NFL see talent. Joe is all for accountability. When Joe is convinced the talent sucks, you’ll hear all about it. –Joe

    If you have to teach someone to tackle in the pros.. maybe they aren’t that talented.

    If the WRs cant get open.. maybe they aren’t that talented

    If the OL cant block.. if the DL can stop anyone.. maybe they aren’t that talented.

    If getting bargains like Anzelone and relying on draft picks to save you is the strategy… maybe you aren’t that good a GM

    If you paid Baker without making him prove it cause youre scared. Maybe you aren’t a good GM.

    The roster is worse and worse every year.. and every year I gotta hear how Litch is a genius in the draft… really?

  11. Jehzsa Says:

    But…but…but…who would trade for Coach Bowles?

  12. Marine Buc Says:

    Trade Baker and Vea for a bag of donuts and half a cup of cold coffee…

  13. Mark Says:

    I suspect that Licht wasn’t entirely on board with retaining Bowles, and that this was a hive-mind decision. Unfortunately for Licht and his team, there is a high risk that they will get blown up in this looming fiasco.

    The paper talent this team has is impossible to assess with such weak, passive coaching. Is Ruben Bain going to be a bust like Joe Tryon-Shoyanka? How can you tell? The kid’s potential could be ruined by the time a competent coaching staff is in place.

    With maybe the exception of Atlanta and Miami, this is the worst team in the league. Cleveland at least looks motivated. Arizona is playing with passion. The Titans almost beat Philadelphia. Total organizational failure.

  14. Earnest Graham Says:

    I think the Glazers (and about 27 other owners) want Sean McVay long term and are spinning wheels until him and the Rams/Stafford era blows itself up soon.

  15. Bobby M. Says:

    Tom Brady couldn’t overcome the mediocrity of Bowles….there’s nobody in the league that is going to have any success with changing the attitude of this team. Brady changed the entire culture but he had a coach with equal passion. Bowles is a fraud….he can’t lead men. He may be a really good Xs and Os defensive coach but leading a team is a different skill. A trade won’t fix anything, it’s merely a pacifier for fans to buy a few more weeks of hope before the season is done.

  16. When is enough enough! Says:

    Bucs fans are being played like fools. Boycot the games. Its not that hard. Its been done majority of the 80s 90s

  17. Todd Says:

    Bucs are so reTodded. Sofa king we Todd did.

  18. ElioT Says:

    Jason Lichtmyb*lls Win/Loss record is now 93/106 – including the Brady years

    Yeah, great job.

  19. Obvious Says:

    There is no trade that will inject life into this team. The ceiling for Todd was 8-9 wins. It’s now 6 or 7.

    Make a trade if it will improves the roster. Otherwise let the long painful season run its course.

  20. Dean Bucs Fan 4 Life!! Says:

    My theory is that Bruce Arians made a backdoor agreement with the Glaciers to anoint Todd Bowles as his HC successor…for a five year period…in return for a legitimate chance of winning a Super Bowl with a championship roster (adding Brady of course). This is the only explanation for retaining Bowles after the absolute precipitous disgrace of last year! We deserve better than this. Rewarding Baker and Vea with contract extensions is one thing…but rewarding Bowles with another season…and NOTHING…..I repeat…NOTHING has changed or improved for a team that has talent…and NO HEART!!! Bowles’ scheme doesn’t work…the middle of the field is ALWAYS open, quarterbacks throw short passes on their tippy toes over the pile of people who can’t break through the line. GO BUCS!!!

  21. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    Trade Bowles for Tomlin.

  22. Davenport Says:

    Who is going to trade for Bowles?

  23. Champabayceo Says:

    Trade the quarterback, then fire Bowles and Robinson. Then fire Licht for that moronic extension. That will send a message

  24. MikeBuc Says:

    What’s the difference between two losses to begin the season and 2 losses during the annual slump after a bye?

    None. It all psychological. Theres no season on the brink yet.

  25. Kev Says:

    At first I blamed the coach. That’s obvious. Now, I can’t help but wonder if it’s the players too. Which leads me to the GM. Especially possibly overestimating your draft choices and overpaying them. So hard to watch.

  26. Rob Says:

    We knew there would be questions about the Bucs pass rush, LB corp, and back end of the defense. Two games in and what we know so far is that outside of rookies Trotter and Scott, who on defense is earning their paycheck?

    Anyone who thought the RB room was solid with Irving and Gainwell is kidding themselves. They might make a few splash plays but who fears the Bucs ground attack?

    Things could get ugly when a very well coached Vikings team plays the Bucs next weekend.

  27. PanhandleBuc Says:

    It starts from the top! You are a reflection of your HC. Insanity – doing the same thing expecting a different result.

  28. Bucnbeers Says:

    Jason Licht is as much of a joke as Todd Bowles. Clean house start over and prove to the fans you’re serious about winning football games.

  29. rrsrq Says:

    Where are the captains? How can you lead in the locker room when you are not performing on the field

  30. Winny Testaverde Says:

    The time to trade a player and send a message has passed. The perfect opportunity to do so was with malcontent VV. But oh that plucky Bright Licht drove a hard bargain and instead gave him a raise and a golden parachute for next season. Without Big Brother Bruce and Brady…Licht is lost. Not sure I see the talent either. The last two free agent additions on defense have been busts…and expensive at that.

  31. HeavyE Says:

    Yeah, let’s trade the QB, GM & the HC. Let’s Start there!!!!

  32. Been there since the beginning Says:

    Mhystc, you are on it. I’m thinking enough is enough. Jason hit a few times but things have been kinda 50/50 the last few years ,in the draft. Some shouldn’t be on the field at all Zion. It’s time for a complete overhaul. To many things have happened under Bowles watch, NFC title game vs Detroit clock and we couldn’t stop them. You got more picks than TD’s Baker and quit eating butter before Sundays games sir. Even Tom kinda bailed. Bowles just ain’t cut out for his job. Just The Truth.

  33. Capt.Tim Says:

    Talent in Demand?
    Mayfield, Wirfs,Goedeke,Bucky, Vea, McCollum, Morrison, Parrish, Tykee.
    Godwin has some value, but he is old, with some serious injury history.
    Only real Value is Mayfield, Wirfs, Goedeke, Vea. The rest are third day draft picks.

    That’s it. Everyone else is average(a few) or below average.
    I know that’s gonna trigger everyone who thinks this is a good team.
    I don’t care. You were wrong. You were always wrong.

    I wish they would Trade Mayfield. This line is going to get him seriously hurt. He deserves better. He should have left. This is a bad team- in the worst possible positions.

    The only way out of this, is to fire Bowles and Licht as soon as possible. Get them out of the building- and they take Zack with them.
    Then we rebuild our Staff this coming off season. Should have done it this off season. Too late now.

    Now, repeat after me. Especially all of you” Bucs will be a playoff team” guys that argued with me all off season.
    “ITS GOING TO BE A LONG SEASON”

  34. Josh Says:

    Stop blaming Jason Licht. This isn’t a roster problem—it’s a coaching and scheme failure.

    Licht built a 53-man group with top-10 upside, stocking the roster with proven stars like Tristan Wirfs, Antoine Winfield Jr., Vita Vea, and Calijah Kancey, alongside solid mid-round hits. Talent doesn’t just evaporate overnight. That’s according to the ENTIRE NFL OTHER TEAMS WERE LITERALLY TRYING TO TRADE UP FOR EGBUKA….

    Here is where the disconnect actually lives:

    * **Mismanaging Defensive Traits:** Explosive, gap-shooting disruptors like Kancey and Yaya Diaby belong in a fast 4-3 front. Forcing them into heavy 2-gap hybrid roles or dropping edge players into coverage neutralizes their best skills.
    * **Over-Complicated Calls & Bad Tackling:** Pre-snap confusion and missed assignments point to bloated call sheets. When defenders are forced to think instead of react, they take bad angles and miss tackles.
    * **O-Line & Schematic Regression:** A line that dominated 2–3 years ago doesn’t lose its physical ability that fast. Blown stunt pickups and free rushers stem from predictable play-calling and poor on-field communication.

    Licht did his job. Until this staff adapts the scheme to fit what their players actually do best, the results on Sundays won’t change.

  35. Jarrett Says:

    Trade Baker lol

  36. Show Me Your TDs Says:

    Talent without effort is a losing cause. I have always stuck up for Licht, but no more. He’s the architect of this mess. He signed low accountability losers to huge contracts. Vea, Baker, McCullum, and his free agent signings are horrible. To top it off, he brought back Bowles. I say burn it all down, like the theatre scene from Inglourios Basterds.

  37. CosmoKramer Says:

    At this point the only field talent doesn’t matter. Once here under Bowles they regress to pee wee league status.

    Until Bowles and everyone associated, including Licht and Robinson are gone, get used to being this bored and angry on Sundays for the foreseeable future.

    Clearly we can’t draft our way out of this malaise. Jason has proven incapable of that.

    A replacement OC has only made the situation worse than last year.

    Todd has no more scapegoats left to lay the blame on.

    He got the players he wanted and the new OC he wanted.

    The results speak for themselves. I really believed we could at least win the game yesterday.

    That has to be the end for this wretched regime. Not just Todd, everyone.

  38. Hodad Says:

    No trades, don’t do anything that might hamper the new GM, HC. Licht, and Bowles made their bed, let them rot in it. The funniest part is all the extensions, and money wasted. Good thing the Glazers have plenty of money to waste. A real message would be to fire the HC, GM, now!!

  39. Josh Says:

    Rueben Bain Jr. is the poster child for this scheme failure.

    At Miami, he wrecked games doing one simple thing: lining up as a 4-3 edge, shooting his gap, and hunting the QB.

    Now, this coaching staff has a rookie reading 2-gap flows, processing complex checks, and thinking instead of reacting. The result? His explosive first step disappears, offensive tackles lock him up, and he goes invisible on the stat sheet.

    Jason Licht drafted a hammer. The coaching staff is trying to play chess with him. Put Bain in a 4-man front, tell him to pin his ears back, and let him run. It’s not that complicated.

  40. Been there since the beginning Says:

    Oh I would trade the whole front office and take back the lost decade right about now.

  41. can-we-get-rid-of-licht-now-please Says:

    wait a minute – not-ROH-worthy Tom-Brady-hand-puppet Jason Licht panics and extends Baker and VV not for the good of the team but to bind HIMSELF more tightly to the team and make it harder to bring in a new HC & GM – pure unadulterated venality and selfishness – par for the course – NOW the Joes suggest that JL send someone packing to “send a message” ? “The beatings will continue until morale improves”. The “couple of shots from the front office” to which Joe refers is more likely shots of bourbon that Arians and Licht slurp down whilst giggling over how they put one over on the clueless Glazers again – Licht should be embarrassed and ashamed of himself but his narcissistic psychopathy prevents that

  42. AlabamaBucsFan Says:

    I don’t think Jason Licht had anything to do with keeping Todd Bowles for another year. This was on the owners. In fact, I think the Glazers had a huge part of extending Baker’s and Vita’s contract. While Jason Licht is not perfect, he’s better than 80% of the GMs out there.

  43. Jarrett Says:

    I can’t believe this dude EXTENDED baker after that terrible ending to the season last year.

    Now we 0-2

    Joe I told you all offseason

    THIS TEAM ISNT EXPLOSIVE ENOUGH, WE NEED BETTER RECEIVERS GO GET DIGGS

    THIS TEAM WONT GENERATE ENOUGH PRESSURE GO GET MAX CROSBY

    BUT BOWLES AND JASON KEEP SAYING THE SAME THING

    WE LIKE THE GUYS WE GOT THE YOUNG GUYS NEED THE REPS

  44. gotbbucs Says:

    Won’t happen.

    The deeper this gets, the less influence over the future roster will be given to this regime. Ownership should not let Bowles/Licht make decisions for the future right now.
    They fired coaches and bought players this offseason, and it fixed nothing. This is a lame duck regime as we speak.

  45. Flush Bowles Says:

    The adage that a team takes on the identity of its coach is especially true for this team…very soft in the middle. But it’s OK, KitKats for everyone!

  46. Bucfan1988 Says:

    Anzelone should worst-case be benched, and best-case be totally cut.

    What a mistake it was signing this guy.
    Absolutely HORRIBLE tackler!!!!
    The missed tackling machine!!!!

    I look forward to have Voss Dennis back in the line-up after watching the Anzelone tackling crapshow spew all over the team 🤭.

  47. MelvinJunior Says:

    “Ring of Honor” is a freaking joke. This roster is just lacking overall, when compared to most other teams in the league. The product I see out there on the field, is lacking the ELITE speed, and athleticism to compete. There are NO “FREAKS.” And, you just locked yourself in LONGTERM, at ‘tip-top-of-the-market’ MONEY, to an EXPENSIVE and an AGING rapidly, beaten up and banged up, reckless and erratic, often “injured” and inconsistent, undersized QUARTERBACK, who is focused on all of the WRONG THINGS, and is one huge walking DISTRACTION. While, having a Head Coach, who is NOT a “HEAD COACH,” whom you had to go out and hire HIM extra ‘special’ assistants, to AID HIM with just the basic average in-game ‘decision-making’ that ANY modern-day Head Coach, should just instinctively KNOW in HIS SLEEP. Literally, THE most elementary STUFF. It’s all just one BIG CLUSTER that NO ONE wants to be in, and with NO END or obvious ‘fix’ in sight. THIS is just a BAD Football Team, and a POORLY ran franchise, from top to bottom. Now, that TOM BRADY” is loooong gone..l They don’t know what the HELL they are doing. They are totally LOST. And, LICKT is LAZY, WEAK, INEPT, and INCAPABLE. He is extremely, just ‘UNIMPRESSIVE’ in every way imaginable. They are SO SCREWED. And, I could see-it coming from a mile-away… Especially, after COEN. I said THEN, that these are the ‘types of moves’ that are “FRANCHISE-ALTERING.” And, it’s starting to look more like everyday, that it is going to be OUR Babe Ruth to the YANKEES. I’d been trying to tell y’all this for over a YEAR NOW, but you just flat-out REFUSE to see-it, or to ADMIT-IT.

  48. BigZ Says:

    I said this week’s before the trade deadline last year.

    Realistically, who can we move and get something of value in return.

    Other GMs see our roster. Who would they want? Nobody on the oline. Dline not Vita with his current contract. 94, nope not doing much, small and hurt 50 percent of the season.

    LBs, Trotter, but we aren’t moving him.

    DBs Tykee, that’s it

    QB, hell no.

    Bucky, yes

    TEs doubt it. 88 makes 10 mil fir 3 catches and 35 yards per game. You can get that in the 5th round of the draft.

    E2, maybe. Chris not at 20 mil.

  49. WM Says:

    From the top to the bottom the whole organization is garbage. Garbage owners, Garbage GM, Garbage Head Coach and garbage players that consistently loaf and can’t tackle a trash can. ABSOLUTE JOKE

    FIRE TODD TOILET BOWELS SORRY ASS

  50. MelvinJunior Says:

    When the BROWNS with THAT Roster, who are literally ‘trying to’ LOSE… BEATS YOU LIKE THAT. And, at HOME. I mean, come on. That should tell you ALL you need to know about THIS FRICKEN ROSTER. Get REAL. The Browns ROSTER even looked BETTER. That is because, as hard as that might be to admit… They Probably ARE. It’s not like, there is this obvious HUGE difference between the two, THAT IS FOR SHORE.

  51. Mike in MO Says:

    I am not a JL supporter. But he was handling the Baker and VV situations correctly until Joel Glazer showed up on the sidelines of training camp and the next thing you VV and Baker got their loot. I empathize with JL who must be pissed at Joel Glazer for overriding his judgment. But the owner makes the rules.

  52. Bucfan1988 Says:

    My the trading deadline when the Bucs have won 1 game, I’d try to move:

    Antoine Winfield Jr
    Tykee Smith
    Vita Vea
    Ben Bredneson
    Chris Godwin

    Just my thoughts..

  53. PowerOfPewter Says:

    Can he trade Bowles?

  54. Bucfan1988 Says:

    Would love to move Baker but Bucs are stuck with this ridiculous contract for a while…

  55. firethecannons Says:

    TRADE BAKER

  56. Muscle Hampster Says:

    Toilet Bowels for a Bidet. Straight up

  57. 813bucboi Says:

    Champabayceo Says:
    September 21st, 2026 at 9:56 am
    Trade the quarterback, then fire Bowles and Robinson. Then fire Licht for that moronic extension. That will send a message

    BINGO!!!!!!!

    Trade Baker to the Vikings and then clean house

    GO BUCS!!!!!!

  58. jimmy Says:

    trade zzzzyon, he is apparently now able to “watch film”

  59. Dubcity6 Says:

    If yall see talent I dont know what to tell you.. is that based on the draft hype? Cause what are you seeing on Sunday to make that claim..

    LB play? CB play? Safety play? DL play?

    You know who we see succeed? The Kicker.. he does his job.. results.

    The offense is the worse of the 2 units.. so what talent do we see?

    Bucky… thats it.. the results speak for themselves.

    At the NFL, talented players jump off the screen no matter who the coach is.. who jumps off the screen? Anyone?

    Bucs have been very bad before, and still we could be like.. “well theyre bad but Mike Evans jumps off the screen. Lavonte is a man among boys”

    Yea we dont have that now

  60. Champabayceo Says:

    @813bucboi
    I agree, let’s tank for a top 5 pick to take a rookie Qb (arch) and trade baker to the Vikings to offload his contract. Start the rebuild, rip the bandaid off already.

  61. Josh Says:

    I have no proof, but I don’t think Jason resigns Baker or Vea on his own, and I don’t think Bowles would still be his head coach. That’s why I personally wouldn’t fire the guy. His hands are tied by ownership forcing him to resign guys and keep a coach he didn’t even pick—Bruce Arians was the last guy he actually hired for the job.

    If you don’t work with the coach to draft talent, then that talent won’t get used correctly. Oh wait, I feel like that’s exactly what he did with Rueben Bain. He basically said, “I don’t care, Todd, he’s a beast of a pass rusher—make it work.” And what does Todd Bowles do? He has Bain dropping into coverage and playing 2-gap read as a 3-4 outside linebacker. Bain is a classic 3-down defensive end: put his hand in the dirt, let him play his 1-gap, and let him wreak havoc on the guy with the ball.

    To me, Licht is the only reason this team isn’t bottom-feeders. He built the roster Brady wanted to join, and he hired BA, who got Brady here in the first place. Ever since Brady and BA retired, Licht has basically been GM by title only—told, “This is your coach, now draft the players he wants to fit his scheme.”

    Worst of all, if Alex Anzalone makes a tackle or Baker completes a throw—literally pick one play out of both games—the Bucs are 2-0 instead of 0-2, even with this ridiculous scheme and obvious play-calling on both sides of the ball. But yeah, sure, it’s a “lack of talent.” LMAO.

    Jason Licht has built an amazing roster. When did we draft Bucky again?? Hurst that late, Parrish in Round 3 that was a steal, and that’s just getting started. Other teams would love to have the talent we have. But we continue to force a round peg into a square hole. We’re asking birds to swim and airplanes to explore the Mariana Trench, and acting like it makes total sense.

  62. Winny Testaverde Says:

    Baker is now a toxic asset and not tradable. He makes as mush as Josh Allen & Joe Burrow. Thankfully him and Bright Licht are friends again.

  63. MelvinJunior Says:

    @ firethecannons Says: “TRADE BAKER”

    And, ENOUGH of this, too! STOP. Cause, if you know ANYTHING about actual “FOOTBALL” at all, then YOU would already KNOW that is NOT EVEN REMOTELY, a possibility. The FO made sure that was NOT happening, as soon as THEY handed him that monstrosity of a LONGTERM DEAL. Again, that ship has already SAILED. It’s OVER. Forget It. Get it outta YOUR MIND. Not Possible. NO ONE is taking THAT BS on.

  64. can-we-get-rid-of-licht-now-please Says:

    SkunkApe Says:
    September 2nd, 2026 at 11:46 am

    can-we-get-rid-of-licht-please Says:
    September 2nd, 2026 at 10:42 am
    I don’t think Licht knows what he is doing – just plays three-card-monte with players to delight the rubes who refuse to see the writing on the wall – in some future interview from his rocking-chair Bowles will bitterly call out Licht for his personnel moves

    What are your credentials to make that judgment?
    Your opinion is certainly not in line with the vast majority who live in reality. Sounds like reactionary, uninformed crybabyism.

    hey SkunkApe I may be reactionary but you are now revealed to be a moron –
    you are currently not in the vast majority who live in reality – you have the IQ of a SkunkApe

  65. infomeplease Says:

    The Buc’s are not forcing their will on either side of the ball. They are being out muscled.
    Mayfield will live or die depending on how well the OL protects. So far they have been below par. Will that change? I have no clue! BM6 needs to be more accurate downfield. Perhaps he’s losing confidence. He needs to make good throws to finish out games. We’ll find out in the next couple of games if the Bucs can compete.
    The D shows some improvement. CBs have been doing decent. The front 7… Not so much. Very little pressure. Plus Bowles can’t figure out a way to cover the middle of the field still. TEs keep burning the D. Also, they can’t tackle for shi* . But their biggest problem is making a play when they really need to consistently. Things don’t look good so far. Will that change? If not Bowles will be gone!

  66. MelvinJunior Says:

    @ Josh – Get Real, Dude. You are absolutely, DELUSIONAL. Keep drinking that kool-aid then, and that career record throughout now, 13-YEARS. GTFO. It’s Stockholm Syndrome.

  67. bob in valrico Says:

    There was a time when the only thing the glazers got involved with personnel was to replace coaches. now they are making player decisions and its hurting the team.

  68. Ballwin Bucs Fan Says:

    We don’t even need a trade, we have guys on the roster like Muhammad and David Walker who are really trying. And given what I’ve seen from Anzalone, I’d rather give SirVocea Dennis another shot.

  69. Couch Fan Says:

    You guys who keep bashing Licht understand that a GM doesnt go out there and just drafts or signs any players he wants right? He picks the players the COACH asks for. He signs the players the COACH wants. It is all about the HEAD COACH and what HE wants.

  70. MelvinJunior Says:

    LICKT literally SAID, that HE wanted to get the “Baker Deal” DONE. And, get this… Because, HE didn’t want to have to “start over from scratch” again on negotiations, next year!!!!! Literally, HIS EXACT WORDS. Because, he’s a LAZY-INEPT, bumbling FOOL, who doesn’t know WTF he’s doing. Not even the FIRST fricking clue. 💯

  71. Darin Says:

    Can’t trade the two guys now who were just overpaid.

  72. Josh Says:

    Yeah, he said he wanted to get the Baker deal done, but the offer he made wasn’t accepted. It was clearly for way less money—or at least WAY fewer guarantees—until the owners stepped in. Then, suddenly, after they had dinner with Baker, it’s magically done.

    It’s just like Vea: Licht wanted him, but at *his* price. Ownership meddled and screwed the team over. It’s the exact same situation as Bruce Arians announcing Todd Bowles as his successor—Licht didn’t even get to make the choice, he just had to say, “OK, well, what do we do now?”

    Based on those Miami rumors, Brady literally still wanted to play—just not for Todd Bowles. What does that tell you?

  73. MelvinJunior Says:

    Explosiveness. That was the word I lost and had meant to add… along with, speed and athleticism. This ROSTER lacks the ELITE-level TALENT, to compete with the Top Teams in this LEAGUE. It doesn’t have the JUICE. I said before the season had even started (said it for all throughout the entire offseason), that THIS is a “Bottom-5” ROSTER in the NFC. After their first 2-games, it looks a lot more like, potentially a BOTTOM-5 Roster, in the ENTIRE LEAGUE. 💯

  74. MelvinJunior Says:

    @ Josh – Yeah, Josh… They went ahead and approved it, while giving LICKT the “ok.” JL wanted that deal DONE 💯.

  75. Bucman Says:

    The bucs have now lost NINE in a row. Todd is an excellent coach.

  76. Lakeland Says:

    The YUCS actually has no one to trade
    They have a roster loaded with inferior talent
    Only the YUCS fans can see the imaginary talent on this team

    They couldn’t get a 5th rounder for Vita Vea
    This roster is absolutely talentless

  77. Slacker Says:

    Once again, why does Licht get a free pass? He’s as much a problem as the rest.

  78. Selfy_74 Says:

    Mike Evans saw this coming!

  79. BucsFan Says:

    A trade REALLY

    LETS take care of the problem

    FIRE BOWLES !!!!!!

    We have let players go (Evans)
    We have fired coaches (Twice staff as almost been completely redone)
    We have let Coaches walk who now are killing it as HC (Jax)

    Time to see the Problem IF the Bucs want to fix it

    FIRE the HC

  80. Gipper Says:

    Lots of words but hardly anyone mentions that Baker threw a perfect pass to Hurst in the end zone that he should have caught. If not caught, refs should have thrown flag for interference as the defender was all over Hurst with hands before the ball arrived.

  81. MelvinJunior Says:

    And, IF he didn’t want the deal, and thought it was bad… Then, it is only “HIS JOB” to step TF UP and warn the Glazers, by saying, “HAIL NO.” Cause, hell, they don’t know JACK about FOOTBALL. You people continue giving this guy a Fricking PASS for literally everything. Trying to say, that HE doesn’t draft the players. Okay, if true… Then, HE’s USELESS. So, WHAT TF DOES “HE” DO THEN!? Sounds-like, they should get someone in there, WHO DOES know how to do SOMETHING. As in HIS JOB. The Bottomline is… The Glazers just wanted to meet with Baker FIRST, before committing to HIM LONGTERM, and approving the deal for JL. The deal, that HE WANTED. It’s ABSURD (especially at this point), to act-like, THIS is an ELITE GM that you are looking at. I mean, HE is NOT even mediocre at this point, in this new-age, modern day NFL. Completely, CLUELESS. And, USELESS. Doesn’t know WTF he’s doing, and it’s VERY easy to see. You just have to take your emotions out of it, and then OPEN YOUR EYES.

  82. MelvinJunior Says:

    He has NO feel, and ZERO instincts. Because, he is LAZY, INEPT, AND CLUELESS.

  83. Lakeland Says:

    I’m tired of hearing about Liam Coen and Dave Canales

    Win some money games ( playoffs)

    Then they get my respect
    Right now they both are hyped up wannabes
    We’ve had enough of them in Tampa

  84. can-we-get-rid-of-licht-now-please Says:

    MelvinJunior Says:
    September 21st, 2026 at 10:56 am
    LICKT literally SAID, that HE wanted to get the “Baker Deal” DONE. And, get this… Because, HE didn’t want to have to “start over from scratch” again on negotiations, next year!!!!! Literally, HIS EXACT WORDS. Because, he’s a LAZY-INEPT, bumbling FOOL, who doesn’t know WTF he’s doing. Not even the FIRST fricking clue. 💯

    hey MelvinJunior I like your style

  85. MelvinJunior Says:

    @ Gipper – You’re talking about ONE PASS. You’re coming in here, to talk about “ONE PASS!?” Really!? GTFOH

  86. Old Man Says:

    NY Giants new coach – bang, Saints new coach playing like they want it. chicago new coach

  87. MelvinJunior Says:

    Brady, literally got Bruce FIRED. He WANTED TO play for TODD. Because, he didnt want to be held accountable during his last season, AND the ‘relationship’ had began to sour. Bruce had ZERO ‘intentions’ of walking-away, when he was FORCED TO. Literally, within just WEEKS of the DRAFT. And, after the big ‘meeting’ at the soccer match overseas, between Brady and the Glazers.

  88. unbelievable Says:

    Bowles should not have been retained.

    Baker should not have been resigned yet.

    There’s no doubt in my mind that ownership was HEAVILY involved in those decisions, it’s not just Licht…

    As someone else said, careful what you wish for fans. While Licht has some issues, he is at worst the 2nd best GM we’ve ever had. This team has talent, they’re just coached poorly.

  89. Flatout Says:

    Todd is doing exactly what we thought he would Lose. See ya at the draft party. Out.

  90. Old Man Says:

    I do not see any urgancy. Is there no accounability. Just show up and collect a check. There is talent on this team.
    NY had talent bang new coach new outcome.
    Chicago had talent bang new coach new outcome.
    Saints had talent bang new coach new outcome.
    Jacksonville had talent bang new coach new outcome.
    ect…..
    Mayfied was taost of the town under Liam Coen, is it coaching or or was that a fluke.

  91. MelvinJunior Says:

    @ Old Man – YES. That was an ‘outlier” season for HIM… Now, in his 9TH. Just take a look at Trevor Lawrence, and Wil Levis when at Kentucky. So, again… YEAH.

  92. Hopes on 2027 Says:

    And do what? bring in someone like the 5 or 6 people they brought in this offseason?

    Best solution is to fire Bowles, hire Gruden strictly as an interim coach, and see if he can make Mayfield play right.

  93. BucsFan81 Says:

    No we shouldn’t trade any draft picks. We don’t want to handicap the next regime that will be starting next year. If anything we should have a fire sale here in a few weeks and get rid of the dead weight on this team so that way the next coach and GM have a ton of draft picks to work with. Time to start thinking rebuild

  94. MelvinJunior Says:

    And, add a another year of “wear & tear” on a rapidly aging now, 31-YEAR OLD. It’s very rare for most QB’s to still be playing at an ELITE-level, by the time they are 35. And, Baker is undersized and has taken A LOT of hits.

  95. Eckwood Says:

    Vea isn’t Captain Material, Bowles isn’t head coach material and both losses are 100 percent on the qb ……… Baker doesn’t hv allot of time but man is he jumping all over the place !! looks like a college freshman thrust into the nfl .

  96. When is enough enough! Says:

    You start with Firing Todd Bowles. Jason can stay he is not coaching the team Todd is. Todd should have never been a H.C. You see it all over the leauge, O.C’s. or D.C.’s get promoted to H.C. just to fail and go back. Todd just sucks. Always has even with the Jets. You have to believe Glaziers just dont want to pay. Fire Todd promote Robinson as interm then bring in Mike Tomlin or and a real D.C.

  97. Gipper Says:

    MelvinJunior,

    It was a pretty important pass seeing that if Hurst holds on Bucs win, assuming that our DC doesn’t allow CLE Browns to march the length of the field with 30 seconds left.

  98. MelvinJunior Says:

    @ Earnest Graham Says: “I think the Glazers (and about 27 other owners) want Sean McVay long term and are spinning wheels until him and the Rams/Stafford era blows itself up soon.”

    Oh, you do do you!? Lmao. I don’t even know if any of these comments are ‘real’ anymore!? LoL. I mean, he sounds “serious.” Lmao “HE THINKS.” Hahahah.

  99. MelvinJunior Says:

    @ Gipper – Just PLEASE. With your biased and mindless, drivel. I mean, YOU HAVE TO BE “Family,” at this point.

  100. reedoo Says:

    Mike Evans would not have mattered. That’s how rancid we are. No trades. Leave that for the next coach/GM.

  101. MelvinJunior Says:

    @ Dean Bucs Fan 4 Life – The Baker-Extension is farrrrr more detrimental to the franchise moving forward, than the retaining of BOWLES for another season. Extending Baker was a CRUSHING MOVE. You can just walk-away from a COACH, without it affecting the team financially, in the future. THIS Baker-Deal, will literally affect EVERYTHING THEY DO for the next 4-5 YEARS, where they’ll STILL be laying for it. Long after Bowles, is just a memory.

  102. Fanofdabucs Says:

    This ship has sailed.

    They had a chance to send a message by trading Vita and not caving to Baker.

    Instead, they rewarded Vita for sitting out and demanding a trade and panicked on Baker.

    This team has no vision.

    I’ve been a big supporter of JL, but those two moves, along with letting Coen walk out of the building is enough.

    You NEVER let a guy, offensive guru who had the best offense in team history walk away. They should have offered him the HC gig two years ago. FAIL

    You NEVER should cave to aging vets requesting new deals. FAIL

    You SHOULD have NEVER handed Baker a new deal when you had ALL the leverage. Why not make him play out his deal. If he balled out, then great, give him his fat new contract. But IF he sucked, then you’re setting the franchise back for years! FAIL

  103. Ash Says:

    A trade won’t fix this joe thats delusional. I guess on to next season it’s a bucs life

  104. The Daily Coroner Says:

    Instead of a trade of Todd Bowles – I would just cut him – today!

  105. Debbie Says:

    Re Enough- I remember the 80’s and 90s. All those years of consecutive losing seasons. The majority of the current players weren’t even born yet. You kids get a paycheck to play a game that so many others wish to get a chance. The Browns were supposed to be an easy win. It is all uphill from here. If your fellow players are trying to tank the year, you’re off to a good start. Individual players look great on paper, but you need to play as a team. If your coaches cannot show you how to work as a team, try to figure it out between yourselves. Work with each other, not by yourself. One person cannot carry the team. And Glaziers, don’t hand out multi millions without conditions. Like give smaller salary, with massive bonus for each win. And try to give the winning players a share of the bonuses. They want the money, have them earn it. Don’t just hand it to them. Incentive bonuses work.Who would want to play when one person gets so much more, and they have no chance of earning more? Hand out incentive bonuses again. It worked for the Superbowl season.

  106. Alldaway Says:

    Licht has stopped doing trades to improve this roster since the SB season. Licht is in cruise control along with Bowles and it is frustrating to watch.

  107. Rod Munch Says:

    I have a trade idea…

    Try to dump Baker off on the Redskins for anything they offer.

    This would allow Tampa to mostly get out from the disastrous deal the owners forced Licht to sign.

    The Redskins might be so upset with Daniels getting hurt again, you might catch them in an emotional state where they’d do a deal. Offer it now before they have a chance to really think it through.

  108. Capt.Tim Says:

    So pathetic.
    The problem is crystal clear, yet most of you can’t see or recognize it.
    I’ve been saying it since March

    This team can’t pass block. This team can’t pass rush
    THATS IT! Everyone else looks like garbage- because this team is incapable of of doing those 2 things.
    ITS THAT SIMPLE.

    Horrible coaching- unbelievably bad offensive play calling, and horrible team building by Jason Licht..

    And to you defending Licht- don’t be that stupid on a public forum
    How many first and 2nd round picks has he wasted on bad pass rushers?
    He has laughed at our failed pass rushing.
    He signed Randy Gregory! The whole league laughed at that! It was a joke.
    Haason Reddick? Noah Spence? Mohammed? JTS? Logan Hall? The kid from Alabama? All failures?

    How many great players has he drafted? Wirfs?
    No. Everyone knew we were drafting an Offenive tackle in the first round.
    There were 4 Tackles ranked as first round talents. The other 3 were already drafted. Licht traded up to get the last tackle- not because he knew Wirfs would be the best of the four. He drafted Wirfs, because he was the last 1st round tackles on the board.
    Who else has Licht drafted, that mas an all pro?
    Riiiight.

    And Licht drafted a good Tackle. Told him he was a center. Wiped his hand and walked away.
    Barton is a good tackle. A good guard.
    He is a horrible center. He’s getting worse by the game.
    I can tell a linguine he’s an eagle. That won’t make him fly
    Bredesen is bad. A horrible guard. Serviceable at center. So we play him at guard.

    The lines are horrible. You won’t win with bad lines. And I’ve been telling all of you this for months. We could have Brady at QB. He would play exactly like Mayfield. Worse. Mayfield is great at avoiding pressure. Brady wasn’t.
    Didn’t need to be. Good teams can protect the QB. Bad teams can’t.

    But go ahead. Blame everyone on the team. It’s rediculous, but most people don’t know any better

    It’s two problems on the field. Just 2.
    Can’t pass block. Can’t pass rush

    The other problems are also obvious.
    Head coach is horrible. When did he ever improve a rookie? They all get worse
    Jason Licht has one main job. Provide the coach with good players. He’s failed. He failed badly at building a defensive line. He failed badly at building an offensive line.
    That’s enough. He needs to go.

    Has Zack Robinson ever done a good job? They hated him in Atlanta. I’m starting to hate him here in Tampa. Bet I’m not alone.

    Find a rail. Put Bowles, Robinson, and Licht on it.
    The run them outta town. Today

  109. ChiBuc Says:

    Joe sees talent. Others across the NFL see talent. Joe is all for accountability. When Joe is convinced the talent sucks, you’ll hear all about it. –Joe

    You know who else had a ton of talent? Devin White, Jameis…. talent ain’t worth much if your head isn’t right. These players lack character, pride, a desire to be the best. They all want to be top 5 paid by position and JL has ZERO process for vetting their worthiness for making them such (see Baker, AWJ, Vea, every free agent not hand picked by Brady or Bruce, Mc C…). Even if players are worth the bag, JL presides over a coaching staff that soon undermines their abilities. If JL was truly ROH, he would have been priming the Glazers for replacing Todd. I get that Bruce tied his hands because Jason truly was not at the helm, but Brady’s losing season and the steady defensive decline should have woken good fellow Jason enough to be aware that Todd was/IS not the longterm soln.

    Tbh, it’s hard not to see talent on most teams. These are groomed millionaire college athletes. What separates the good from great is attitude, character, and leadership….NOT stats. Stats get you paid. Character gets rings and our maliable dough faced GM is not qualified to address the significant character shortfall on this team in both players or coaches

  110. MikeBuc Says:

    @Capt.Tim

    You are not alone. I’ve thought the oline was over rated a long time. Yeah I thought Barton was a good pick but darn if he has failed to progress. No one at this point on the oline is impressive.

    people screech – oh but he had a clean pocket that time. Nah thats not how it works. You need to know before the play from play to play you are going to have decent protection.

  111. Gipper Says:

    MelJr,

    Drivel? That’s rich coming from a guy with garbled syntax and obvious cognitive difficulties.

  112. Dirty Beaver Says:

    Joe is an idiot. He’s the Todd Bowles of media

  113. Ben Says:

    A trade or benching a captain.like anzalone or winfield.would also send a message.

  114. Pecker Says:

    Kick Todd overboard as should have been done loooo g ago. Trade Baker to WASH or CHI… they are in dire need of a QB

  115. SkunkApe Says:

    Yeah, cuz trading for a player is going to make a difference… What? It doesn’t matter, this team is gutless and uninspired. Who are you going to get that would make any of this better? I think it may be time to start planning the coaching and roster overhaul for 2027.

    We need to find our Liam Coen… oh, wait….

  116. SkunkApe Says:

    No amount of message-sending is going to fix internal rot.

  117. Capebuc Says:

    I like this, Joe. I’m on the player bandwagon. I think these coaches are okay, and if they’re not okay, I’m not convinced there is a team of coaches out there who would get more out of them. We’re going down the Saints drain by collecting overpaid, old players in a league of young studs and I’m tired of these loafers. Won’t mention names but don’t need too much of an imagination to figure it out, I think we’re all aligned. (start with the players whose best seasons were their contract years)

  118. Redzone Says:

    The Todd Bowles of media line got me lol

    Let’s spend 15 minutes on whether Sean Murphy Bunting is the Savior of the secondary lol

    [Now, now. Joe never remotely suggested SMB was any sort of “savior” but would be a valuable depth piece since the Bucs’ secondary was toilet paper thin and SMB already knew the defense. Thank you for the kind words. — Joe]

    Still JBF does a great job entertaining -mostly align with Lees takes but it’s all good 👍

  119. EEK Says:

    There are definitely good players on this roster

    Coaching and leadership matter

    After how the season ended, it is hard to understand how a new coaching staff was not put in place

  120. Mike S Says:

    Jason Licht has 12 first round picks…

    3 big hits (Evans, Wirfs, Vea. But none since 2020)

    5 busts (Jameis, Hargreaves, Howard, Devin White, Shoyinka.)

    2 mehhh. (Kancey, Barton)

    Two “adjudication withheld” (Bain, Egbuka)

    He also keeps old guys a year too long instead of getting rid of them a year early when they’re still worth something like good GMs do. Why exactly does this guy get to be “GM for life”???

  121. Dadgumit Says:

    Trade for Mike Evans, but he would block it. Wonder why?

 

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