Bucs No. 5
November 1st, 2017
Decisions.
Despite the Bucs having a losing record and their offense shatting all over itself Sunday like an infant after eating a jar of peach mush, Joe brings a glimmer of joy into the world.
The Bucs currently hold the No. 5 pick in the 2018 draft!
Yes, it’s that kind of season when a team enters November with but two wins. The Bucs are a loss away from going into full-blown draft mode.
So, per Charlie Campbell of WalterFootball.com, if the season ended today and the Bucs had the fifth pick in the draft, who shall it be?
Nick Chubb, Harold Landry, Saquon Barkely or Bryce Love?
November 1st, 2017 at 12:05 pm
I am beginning to lose faith in Licht, so I’m not so sure the 5th overall pick will solve anything.
November 1st, 2017 at 12:08 pm
Anything other than a DE would be absolutely stupid but that’s what you can expect from a guy that make draft decisions overs a few pitchers at the local wing spot. What a joke!
November 1st, 2017 at 12:08 pm
Joe
I don’t think I have ever remember reading the words “shat” or “shatting” in multiple sports articles in such a short period of time.
November 1st, 2017 at 12:09 pm
Dallasbuc warmed us about licht but we didn’t listen. This dude is inept and I truly believe now that it was Jon Robinson pulling the strings all along. But wtf do I know.
November 1st, 2017 at 12:09 pm
My life is getting short every year, I want them to win now, go ahead and pull out tricks and treats from your a$$ and win some games to finish strong this season, starting this week. Do whatever it takes.
November 1st, 2017 at 12:12 pm
i watched Chubb on youtube last night lol i like him alot he is a REAL DE. Thats my pick!! watched Bryce Love dude is homerun hitter !! but give me Chubb
November 1st, 2017 at 12:13 pm
Pawel Says:
November 1st, 2017 at 12:09 pm
My life is getting short every year, I want them to win now, go ahead and pull out tricks and treats from your a$$ and win some games to finish strong this season, starting this week. Do whatever it takes.
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NO!!!
Don’t win anymore……just tank baby! …..tank the season
We wanna be in the running for Saquaon Barkley or some other impact player in the top 10.
November 1st, 2017 at 12:14 pm
Yuck. Top 5 pick with this roster and these expectations…
November 1st, 2017 at 12:18 pm
Great Jason you have the number 5 pick… are you going to draft a holder for the kicker this time?
November 1st, 2017 at 12:23 pm
Thanks DB55. You are the only one that will admit it that was right and have been right for years despite the idiotic backlash I received for being too “negative” as if that had any bearing on anything important.
Wanting to like certain suits, coaches and players clouds your vision and ends up being how you can watch the same game and come away with completely conclusions about what you just saw. For example, we cannot run the football because our oline is clearly getting smashed at the point of attack and defensive fronts are taking up full time residence in our backfield but somehow the running back sucks.
Time to stop running cover for our sacred cows like Jason Licht and Donovan Smith because it makes you feel better about your choice to like these guys that clearly suck.
We will remain mediocre unless we demand better from this organization at all levels. Anyone tired of getting humiliated a couple of games a year and being non-competitive in most other games? I am sick of this sht and all of you should be too.
November 1st, 2017 at 12:26 pm
Two mistakes here that I see…I believe Joe means Bradley Chubb…Nick Chubb is a good Georgia running back…not a top ten talent, however. Secondly, Licht’s Out probably won’t be around to outsmart the league with his selection.
November 1st, 2017 at 12:33 pm
The Bucs will win just enough to move out of an impact draft pick. Just like last year’s last game. Winning it meant NOTHING !. But we still won. That’s just how we roll.
November 1st, 2017 at 12:34 pm
Barkley, Chubb, Ferrell, and Connor Williams, we’re gonna get at least one of those on the baord at 5…👌
November 1st, 2017 at 12:38 pm
We have to keep our Chubb’s straight. Nick Chubb is RB out of Georgia and Bradley Chubb is DE Stand out. I say draft them both, Chubb it. BucsAnthem:
I am with you, I am old and every win is a good day for me, so I say win every game you can. Do whatever it takes.
November 1st, 2017 at 12:42 pm
If we keep playing the way we have been we can improve upon that. This team is a joke.
November 1st, 2017 at 12:45 pm
No doubt we are in line for a good pick but I wouldn’t put it past Licht to waste it on a position we don’t need or isn’t warranted. He’s likely thinking he can draft another TE or a kicker with that pick.
Licht needs to be replaced before the season is over. We are already into next year country and we can’t afford to have him screw up another draft. Maybe we can trade Licht to the Cheatriots for Tom Brady’s jockstrap…On second thought that may be too high of a price.
November 1st, 2017 at 12:47 pm
Best kicker still on the board!
November 1st, 2017 at 12:52 pm
if………if’s and buts werre candy and nuts
………. we would all have a merry Christmass
November 1st, 2017 at 12:54 pm
November 1st and Bucs media & fans are already talking about Good News … we might come in last and win the lottery. Bucsville is turning into a very, very sad place if that’s all that we have to look forward to. On the other hand, good spin Joe. Washington will be calling soon with a job offer.
November 1st, 2017 at 12:55 pm
And……… Joe, you forgot to add a QB
November 1st, 2017 at 12:56 pm
The Bucs currently hold the No. 5 pick in the 2018 draft!
DAMN…ITS THAT TIME OF YEAR ALREADY!!!!…LOL….
and “fans” want to keep this clown…#underachieve…..GO BUCS!!!
November 1st, 2017 at 12:56 pm
Theres still a chance for us to move up to no 3 or 4 in draft. Thats the good news. The bad news is..Them Saints will be ready in New Oeleans come Sunday!
November 1st, 2017 at 1:00 pm
Licht gonna prove you all wrong and draft a waterboy we could have otherwise signed as an UFA.
November 1st, 2017 at 1:03 pm
Really? We had the number 1 draft pick a few years ago and we are still at the bottom. How is this good news??? You think 1 draft pick is going to change our situation? Give me a break! It all starts with coaching!!
November 1st, 2017 at 1:03 pm
My guess is Licht will pick the one that is small, slow and mentally weak
November 1st, 2017 at 1:08 pm
We need a LT, DE, and a DB more than we need a RB. When we can properly cover WRs, run and pass block, and create pressure on the QBs then we can start talking RB.
November 1st, 2017 at 1:20 pm
It’s gotta be a receiver that’s 6’10” has go go gadget arms and hands soaked in stickem. If he could jump like a grasshopper that would be ideal too!
November 1st, 2017 at 1:34 pm
Trade the pick away for a couple defensive linemen
November 1st, 2017 at 1:44 pm
I am so sick of always losing, and the wait till next year crap.
November 1st, 2017 at 1:49 pm
DE is the need. Get Simeon to come and be a defensive ends coach that includes Bradley Chubb.
November 1st, 2017 at 1:51 pm
I’m done with this garbage. see you guys on Sunday.
November 1st, 2017 at 1:53 pm
I think we won’t know what type of player we will take until we k ow who the GM and maybe a new D Coordinator.This 4-3 D line isn’t worth being around!!Its 3-4 time
November 1st, 2017 at 1:54 pm
DE please.
November 1st, 2017 at 1:59 pm
If Jason Licht is still the GM. It would be another wasted high draft pick. Why get excited over it?
November 1st, 2017 at 1:59 pm
This conversation so early in the season is making me want to hurl already !
November 1st, 2017 at 2:00 pm
@DB55- Even if he’s a game-changer like Barkley? I mean I’m with you. We need d-line, d-line, and d-line. BUT! Can you pass on a guy like THAT?
November 1st, 2017 at 2:02 pm
So a GM poll throughout the season is not useful how? I think it is rather useful to know what the fanbase thinks of the guy in charge of football operations throughout the season. Can you remind me again what it is hurting to run a GM poll and why the mere suggestion is prevented from posting in the comments? Afraid others may agree to want their voices be heard? Just asking very innocent questions that will no doubt get me banned!
Joe has already written in the comments that the GM poll will come out at midseason, aka next week. The only thing that gets you constantly moderated is your hateful often malicious commentary that forces Joe into babysitting mode. –Joe
November 1st, 2017 at 2:10 pm
We need D line and O line help …
November 1st, 2017 at 2:14 pm
If this team picks in the top ten of next year’s draft then licht should not be the one making that pick. We’ve seen this movie before. The entire league knows he’s in need of defensive line help so we’ll have to give up draft picks to keep people from jumping ahead of us or just go all out and give up as many draft picks as we can to get a running back and as many defensive lineman as we can
November 1st, 2017 at 2:14 pm
Honestly, I would draft pass rushers woth our 1st AND 2nd round picks. Get a RB in the 3rd.
November 1st, 2017 at 2:14 pm
No way we pick up Barkley. San Francisco gonna snag him now that they got JG10. We definitely go defense round 1 pick 9.
November 1st, 2017 at 2:14 pm
I’m still a fan of Licht and Koetter, but I think Dirk should let Monken call the plays. He can’t do any worse. Defense looked better and I think they can salvage the season. Beat the Saints first. I hate the Saints and their fans suck. If you want a top DE in the draft, trade up and get him. Go Bucs!!!
November 1st, 2017 at 2:16 pm
Licht is going to keep trading out of the pick and out of the first round.
November 1st, 2017 at 2:18 pm
We already wasted McCoys talent can we not do it to Winston and Evans too?
#GoodByeDirkandMike #HelloHarbaugh
November 1st, 2017 at 2:19 pm
I really like GMC but if they lose to the Ain’ts it’s time to put him on the block and get a first round pick or a great DE. I’d trade Swaggy too, fat and lazy. Doug Martin too if the price is right. Also in the Draft we need a good OT to replace Dotson because he is very inconsistent.
November 1st, 2017 at 2:21 pm
Every time I see Conte play I have to ask if this is as good as it gets. So he makes and occasional pick after getting burned repeatedly.
November 1st, 2017 at 2:22 pm
I’m also not opposed to making Mike Smith the head coach.
November 1st, 2017 at 2:24 pm
@BigMacAttack you realize we are past the trade deadline right?
November 1st, 2017 at 2:25 pm
Bucfan
Yea man, consider this we took O.J. at 19. Dalvin Cook has 11 receptions on the year and O.J. has 13. O.J. has played 4 more games? 4.5 maybe.
So what’s the point? Why waste a pick on someone who isn’t even going to touch the ball?
Consider this last Sunday in the 2nd qrt(?) Koetter calls a play for Djax in the flat on 2&12. He picks up 4 yards in the flat. Next play Koetter calls the same play to hump on the right side. It’s 3&8 and hump is expected to beat Thomas Davis for 8 yards and a first down. He gained 6 yards time to punt.
Of course the geniuses on jbf will say that’s Winston’s fault. My question is wtf isn’t O.J. in the game on 3rd&8. Wtf are you throwing to hump? You have Evans Brate and O.J. why is hump even in the game?
So yes just draft a DE cuz what’s the point? We rushed the ball 19 Times. What’s the point, we could draft Hunt and Koetter would have him on the bench while Winston throws 50 times.
November 1st, 2017 at 2:26 pm
Yeah Jason Light has SUCKED with his high 1st round picks.
Mike Evans, Jameis Winston, VHIII, OJ Howard.
I think there’s only 1 player on that list that people have had issues with; and he has just had 2 weeks of great play…The comments on here never add up with reality. Like at least try not being completely delusional guys. I know the losing can rot our brains but jesus christ.
So far LIght is close to batting 100% in the 1st round. At worst 75%. The league average is worse than that.
2nd round is 50% on average for the league in terms of busts.
2014 – ASJ = bust. Bad mental evaluation.
2015 – Donavon Smith – still the best OT from that draft class lol. Hasn’t missed a start at LT and is at worst an average LT with how bad most O-lines are today.
2015 – Ali Marpet – our best O-lineman and a center piece for years.
2016 – Noah Spence – our best pass rusher by far when he was healthy. You want to blame Light for an injury go ahead but he didn’t have a history of it. Solid pick we all loved that just has had bad luck and still could be a cornerstone player if he can get over this shoulder sh1t.
2016 – Roberto Aguyao – BUST – his worst pick by far.
2017 – Justin Evans – has been starting and holding his own.
So out of 6 draft picks; we can only say 2 are definitive busts.
So 4/6 or 66% vs league average of 50%.
Light hasn’t done that great in FA but even that is typically a 50/50 proposition and he’s probably right around that rate. In terms of the draft he has statistically been better than average.
You want to really evaluate Light objectively? Build a big 4ss spreadsheet of all 32 teams; and all FA pickups over the time LIght has been here; to show who has done well and who has failed. Same thing with draft picks by round.
I am pretty sure the Dallasbuc’s of this site would be completely shocked over those results; because they wouldn’t line up with their delusional thoughts that LIght is one of the worst GM’s in the league.
Also – do what I just described for Mark Dominic. Then you’ll probably think twice about saying we should just dump this guy.
I don’t think LIght’s a top GM or anything. I’m just saying he’s also not one of the worst. I also don’t see ANYONE suggesting who the next GM should be – so you’re basically just throwing sh1t on the wall because you don’t know who else to blame anymore lol
November 1st, 2017 at 2:32 pm
DB55
Totally agree. If we are gonna take OJ @ 19 because he’s some once in a generation TE then he needs to be on the field every offensive snap. I thought that was the whole point of taking him, that he didn’t need to come off the field and defenses couldn’t key on personnel and figure out the plays? Clearly he’s better at that screen than Hump. Honestly between Brate/OJ and Evans/DJax/Godwin I don’t see why Hump is EVER on the field.
November 1st, 2017 at 2:35 pm
ClodHopper Says:
November 1st, 2017 at 1:20 pm
It’s gotta be a receiver that’s 6’10” has go go gadget arms and hands soaked in stickem. If he could jump like a grasshopper that would be ideal too!
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You kid but it’s true. If you see the ball is being thrown high all game (bc of the wind wink wink) then why not just use your tallest receivers? Instead you want to throw to hump and Djax. Whatever man.
Here’s the other thing I’m doing as a oc. I’m going after Luke kuechley. The whole first qrt I’m designating 2 people just to hit him. No rhyme no reason, I’m aiming to see if I can give him another concussion before the 2nd half. Forget points forget yards forget everything. It’s kill the man with the ball and Luke got the ball on every play.
You got to hate your competition within those 60mins in between those lines. We can hang out later and laugh at the as whooping we gave you. But we soft bro super duper Uber soft.
November 1st, 2017 at 2:36 pm
DB55 to pile on about Dirk. Why, when we go empty backfield, we don’t ever go 4 wr? It’s always a rb te and 3 wr. Our rbs are better receivers than Godwin? Dirk is clearly over his head.
November 1st, 2017 at 2:37 pm
And to think we let a captain go to keep hump. And oh by the way Shep had better Acher ages than hump. So did Freddy Martino. #priviledge.
November 1st, 2017 at 2:39 pm
Buc in nc
I’m going to guess bc Winston can’t throw? Bc he’s inaccurate? Not sure but I’m sure it’s bc Winston sucks.
November 1st, 2017 at 2:40 pm
Plus a top 5 pick guarantees we clean house next year. Licht will not be renewed and a new GM will bring in his guy. Plus we either draft DE or LT. Both are major needs.
November 1st, 2017 at 2:42 pm
Wind? He’s been throwing high his entire career!! He’s been over throwing his entire career. He’s been not hitting receivers in stride… you guessed it, his entire career. That’s why we need super human receivers. A mere mortal can not catch these balls. Not every game or all game. Just when bad Jameis is playing which more often than not.
November 1st, 2017 at 2:44 pm
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Any GM that picks Chubb ahead of Saquon Barkley should be immediately FIRED by his own imo … Barkley is the best all-around “talent” since Marshall Faulk!
Anyways, I honestly think Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen and Josh Allen will all go #1-3 and I’m guessing that will be to the Browns, Jets and Giants (unless a team like the Cardinals jumps ahead of the Giants).
I then think #4-6 in no particular order will be Saquon Barkley, Arden Key and Lamar Jackson.
If I absolutely was forced to “predict” the top 6 picks and teams right now, I’d say:
Browns: Sam Darnold
Jets (trade with 49ers): Josh Allen
Cardinals (trade with Giants): Josh Rosen
Bears: Arden Key
Giants: Saquon Barkley
Jets: Lamar Jackson
Personally I doubt we pick before the #10 pick when all is said and done … but Bryce Love, Nick Chubb and some solid DE’s and CB’s should certainly all be on the board at that slot …
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November 1st, 2017 at 2:44 pm
That’s what Koetter blamed it on the wind. Lol.
November 1st, 2017 at 2:47 pm
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Typo in draft … it should be:
Browns: Sam Darnold
Jets (trade with 49ers): Josh Allen
Cardinals (trade with Giants): Josh Rosen
Bears: Arden Key
49ers: Saquon Barkley
Giants: Lamar Jackson
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November 1st, 2017 at 2:48 pm
Jameis will never be good enough for some. But he’s a great young qb with his arrow going up if we can get a real OC that can utilize the talent we have. I like Haley and McDaniels. Those guys offensive personnel groupings and play design are top notch.It’s no coincidence Brady and Big Ben have their greatest years under them.
November 1st, 2017 at 2:51 pm
Sunday was just a bad day and every qb has them. Jameis will bounce back. Watch
November 1st, 2017 at 2:51 pm
I’d take mike Sullivan at this point.
November 1st, 2017 at 2:53 pm
DB55- My caveat would be a different play-caller for the very reasons you mention. With what we have now, I agree. If someone else was calling the shots? Well, like I said, Barkley’s one of those players.
Something HAS to get done about the trenches. D-line first. We should have more sacks by accident at this point than we do now.
November 1st, 2017 at 3:08 pm
Chubb all the way
Man is a beast and his non stop motor reminds me of a Watt type of guy.
November 1st, 2017 at 3:14 pm
If Barkely falls to us we need to get him, end of story
November 1st, 2017 at 3:15 pm
we are at the 5 position now but will be 1 or 2 by seasons end. Which I truly hope we get a QB with some sort of intelligence. One that does not fold like an old lawn chair when they have to throw the ball with success against anything other than prevent D. One that convert a third down. One that has “it”. Jameis does not posses winning characteristics. He got luck at FSU being surrounded by a great group of Athletes and playing in the ACC when it was way down. Let’s send this clown and the head coach to the circus where they belong.
November 1st, 2017 at 3:21 pm
Are there any pass rushers in this draft? Drop the hold D-Line and draft a new one cant be any worse maybe find a real pass rusher.. Mccoy ant worth the money either…
November 1st, 2017 at 3:34 pm
wewantgruden,
please don’t ever speak about “intelligence” as if it’s something you’re even remotely familiar with … and check yourself into a facility … they might be able to help you
November 1st, 2017 at 3:44 pm
No point of drafting OJ who is gonna be solid but… please hope licht is not running this draft he has messed this team up since first day he was here and let 2 starting OL walk out the door
November 1st, 2017 at 3:46 pm
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WEWANTGRUDEN,
I know you’re just a low-IQ, idiotic troll and JW-hater, some people may actually believe your lunacy.
JAMEIS HAD A **** HIGHER **** WONDERLIC SCORE THAN:
DAN MARINO
BEN ROETHLISBERGER
BRETT FAVRE
DAK PRESCOTT
TERRY BRADSHAW
DEREK CARR
JIM KELLY
By they way Jameis scored 35% HIGHER than Derek Carr and a whopping 68.75% HIGHER than HOF’ers Jim Kelly and Bradshaw!
Jameis was a perfect 4.0 student in H.S., got an ACADEMIC full ride scholarship offer from Stanford, plans to be a podiatrist after his football career is over and again, blows many HOF QBs and top young QBs out of the water on the Wonderlic which you touted simply because Harvard grad Fitz scored high … heck, I SCORED A 43 on it … maybe I’d better than HOF QBs … LOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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November 1st, 2017 at 4:02 pm
DB
Oh I get now. Haha. My bad
November 1st, 2017 at 4:05 pm
NFL”NUT”, which is a fitting name. Get over your Jameis man-crush AKA “dumb as a bag of hammers”. I will have forgot more than you ever know by the time I complete this message. I myself am a retired Urologist with at one time 22 offices throughout South Florida. Retired at 42. I have worked with many docs over my career and had many residence under my supervision. To that end, I do not recall any of them making statements with “I gotsta” OR “I aint”. He will never become a doctor. Do you recall the post game interview on ESPN after the national championship game….you could barley understand what he was saying. His brain is not wired to make sound decisions under pressure. I am sure he is a nice guy in person but it is what it is. He will never have success in the NFL. He reminds me of that Jeff George guy.
November 1st, 2017 at 4:14 pm
Idk. Imo Nick Chubb and Bryce Love arent even worth 1st round picks, let alone top 10. Maybe Guice gets into top 10 talk by draft time. Barkley will probably end up going #2 to the 49ers if I had to guess.
Imo, they cant rely on Noah Spence. He has struggled with injury and he shouldnt he penciled in as “the guy” as he was coming into this year.
Double up on pass rushers with the 1st and 2nd round picks. And guys with good size that wont get manhandled like Noah. Especially if we stay with a base 43 defense.
Bradley Chubb in the 1st. Maybe Sam Hubbard or Arden Key fall into the early 2nd. Then RB in the 3rd.
November 1st, 2017 at 4:24 pm
The “Contributions” of Jason Licht High Draft Picks. And I mean , after the firing of Lovie, when he gained complete control of the draft.
TE O.J.Howard (Backup on a 2-5 team) 1st Round
SS Justin Evans ( Backup On a 2-5 team) 2nd Round
CB Vernon Hargreaves ( Nickel Back on a 2-5 team) 1st Round
PK Roberto Aguayo ( Carolina Panthers Practice Squad) 2nd round
DE Noah Spence ( Injury Reserve) 2nd Round
I wouldn’t exactly call this success
November 1st, 2017 at 4:26 pm
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WEWANTGRUDEN,
I posted FACTs … you don’t like facts … you’re a LOON …
It is a FACT Jameis got an ACADEMIC scholarship offer to Stanford and a FACT that he scored higher on the Wonderlic than a ton of HOF QBS … but you don’t like facts … you’re a verified loon!
By the way, people with a Southern drawl or that speak in a modern way has nothing to do with intelligence … many people can fit in in various situations and speak far differently in a sport or family setting than they would in a business setting or far differently than they would type out a thesis, etc … YOU ARE A LOON that ignores FACTS … I’d hate to have to have you for a doctor as you might tell me to amputate my perfectly healthy leg …
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November 1st, 2017 at 4:36 pm
Do you trust Licht with a top 5 pick? Do you trust these coaches with coaching that top 5 pick? I sure as hell DON’T.
November 1st, 2017 at 4:37 pm
@Buc Fan in NC JW is HURT no bouncing back until AFTER surgery.
November 1st, 2017 at 4:52 pm
DO YOU REALLY THINK LICHT CAN PICK A PLAYER OF ANY CALIBER, LOOK AT THE SECOND ROUND PICK ON A DAM KICKER , IS THAT GOOD JUDGEMENT HELL NO, , I KNOW THERE WAS A PLAYER AFTER WE PICKED A KICKER IS DOING VERY WELL IN THE NFL, SO LICHT AND COACH KOETTER AND ( THE GLAZER) DONE A POOR JOB AT PICKING PLAYERS…… NO DIVD. TITLES YET OF PLAYOFFS , SUPER BOWELS……………………………….
November 1st, 2017 at 5:10 pm
lol After all the players he’s brought in is Aguayo going to be everyones go to when trying to prove Licht is a failure? Cause that’s no where near good enough to make your point. And chill the hell out with the caps.
November 1st, 2017 at 5:19 pm
And there are two starting TEs on the team. OJ is not a backup
VHIII is not the nickel back he just needed a reminder of how they want want him to play so they sat him. Not unheard of in this league. Just called a reality check.
Justin Evans will be starting eventually.
Even though it was by using an extra pick he acquired by moving down for VHIII, ill give you Aguayo.
Noah Spence was a steal in everyones eyes at the time as he was a first round talent. It’s a shame his injuries have kept him off the field, it happens.
And then there’s all the other talent his brought in which are not mentioned. You can one of this years best performing rookies defensively to his finds in Beckwith.
November 1st, 2017 at 5:25 pm
Why all the chatter about an ’18 draft pick at #5? So you get a guy that all here, bloggers, media and other teams go ga ga over. Now just tell me what this coaching staff will do with the new prize. Come on smart guys, what the hell do we do with quality. Be real now.
November 1st, 2017 at 5:41 pm
So your “other” starting TE has 13 receptions? And that’s success for the 19th pick in the 2017 NFL Draft? SMDH
November 1st, 2017 at 6:01 pm
I mean you can troll the pick all you want, it doesn’t mean it was a bust. He’s shown what he can do when he’s actually utilized, he is an elite talent and not one expert thinks the pick was a bad one.
And most of the weapons on this offense are not producing at the level they are capable of. So make of that what you want.
November 1st, 2017 at 6:12 pm
Yea you cant blame Licht for OJ Howard not being involved more. Thats on Koetter.
Jury is still out on VH3 and Spence tho, imo anyway.
November 1st, 2017 at 6:27 pm
Dont worry boys
Grudog is going to build this offense next year around OJ and the short passing game
Hump , martin, and possibly brate(traded cause cant run slants/crosses separate) wont be around
Its all about the dollars. Licht beer and koetter the klown wont sell tickets and corp ad dollars no more
2021 we will have the superbowl in tampa…2018 the drive toward the trophy starts
“I did it before, ill do it again”
Grudog
November 1st, 2017 at 9:38 pm
NFLNUT: you are lucky that I was not a doctor for your father as I would told him to pull out. And don’t worry son, I know your mother well.
November 1st, 2017 at 9:39 pm
Go to Bucs number 5
November 1st, 2017 at 9:52 pm
Sorry. Keotter licht needs stay. No matter the outcome. Who will coach the bucs knowing u have 1 and quarter season window?
November 2nd, 2017 at 9:36 am
At worst we are going to be 7-9… Still holding to it.
November 2nd, 2017 at 11:42 am
doolnutts: I would love if the Bucs go 7-9; that would probably mean a couple of division wins, perhaps starting this weekend! Bucs have thrown away a couple of Ws already in Buffalo and on Thursday night vs the Pats, maybe they can steal a couple and avoid 4-12! Go Bucs!
November 2nd, 2017 at 12:55 pm
You can have a great ingredients and still make a horrible meal. We have great ingredients but the final outcome just doesn’t look or taste right.
November 2nd, 2017 at 1:03 pm
Please no defensive lineman from Clemson.