Kevin Pamphile Heads To Tennessee
March 22nd, 2018
Reunited
One man’s trash …
You know how the saying finishes, “is another man’s treasure.”
That appears to be the case here.
General manager Jason Licht and Dirk Koetter apparently had no use for versatile guard/tackle/center Kevin Pamphile after last season. A Bucs’ fifth-round pick in 2014, Pamphile could do it all except earn a new contract.
He surprisingly shared snaps nearly equally at left guard with unemployed Evan Smith last season. And now he’s gone, per Jenna Laine of ESPN.com. Laine types that the Titans will be his new home on a one-year contract.
Licht’s former right hand man with the Bucs, Titans general manager Jon Robinson, must have liked what he saw — in Tampa and on film.
Pamphile is a great, charitable dude, and frankly, Joe thinks the Bucs just let a good football player walk out the door, just as they did guard Patrick Omameh in 2015. Joe still can’t figure out why Pamphile didn’t get a full starting nod last season.
Regardless, Pamphile is no superstar and Joe is eager to see how Licht replaces him. The Bucs really don’t have a left guard that inspires any confidence on the roster. Not yet.
March 22nd, 2018 at 7:18 pm
Is Mike Evans the sole player left on the roster from the 2014 draft?
March 22nd, 2018 at 7:19 pm
Come on Quenton Nelson!!!
March 22nd, 2018 at 7:22 pm
Quenton Nelson or Will Hernandez would both be significant upgrades over Pamphile.
March 22nd, 2018 at 7:23 pm
Not saying we can’t find someone better, but i’m surprised they didn’t keep him around for depth, or at least to compete during training camp.
Even w/ JPP on the books, I’m sure we still have money. Maybe they’re front loading some other contracts to get money off for all the extensions / contracts needed in 2019…
March 22nd, 2018 at 7:28 pm
Interested to see what Lg we pick up myself. Nelson, Wynn, Hernandez all look good as draft possibilities. I absolutely appreciate the swiss army knife skills that Phamphile brought to the table. The fact we didn’t make him an offer leads me to believe Licht has his eyes one 1 maybe 2 of the highly rated rookies coming in this year.
March 22nd, 2018 at 7:36 pm
Really not that puzzling
Your guards are Marpet and Sweezy.
And Im sure we draft another guard in the middle of the draft
March 22nd, 2018 at 7:36 pm
Wanted to go to a winner
March 22nd, 2018 at 7:38 pm
I wish Kevin Pamphile good luck and Good fortune.
Hope he does great in Tennessee!
March 22nd, 2018 at 7:39 pm
Bucs are not trading o-line in the 1st or 2nd…. they traded for JPP and will take a CB or S in the 1st – period.
March 22nd, 2018 at 7:41 pm
Pamphile got 3.5 mill a year for the next 3 years
March 22nd, 2018 at 7:44 pm
How can he be making 3.5 million a year for the next 3 years on a 1 year contract?
March 22nd, 2018 at 7:48 pm
Quaility depth rotational player, just not a starter.
March 22nd, 2018 at 7:51 pm
Hopefully this means Quinton Nelson. Shore up the OL now that the DL is stout. Games are mostly won in the trenches due to pressure or a lack thereof
March 22nd, 2018 at 8:16 pm
Platoon starter with a washed up center – next!!
March 22nd, 2018 at 8:20 pm
Yes. 2014 was like 4 years and only 1 remains? Licht no draft king nor a jack
March 22nd, 2018 at 8:20 pm
Bucs have one legit o-line backup, at the moment.
March 22nd, 2018 at 8:22 pm
I think the problem is they try and loom for versatile players more than studs at certain positions. I would have tried to keep him for depth though surprised they let him walk.
March 22nd, 2018 at 8:22 pm
We’ll see if he joins the legions of Bucs released or traded who became pretty damn good players on other teams. Not enough time to list them now.
Is it bad talent evaluators or rotten coaches here?
March 22nd, 2018 at 8:30 pm
They have a left tackle and they have Marpet back at guard where he can be a pro bowler and a new center with an attitude.
Solid foundation
March 22nd, 2018 at 8:33 pm
Lamarcus……Don’t be so down on that draft. Most of the players Licht are still in the league and providing quality snaps.
Evans has nothing but 1,000 yard seasons on his resume. We just signed him up to give us 5 more.
ASJ has a very healthy yard and TD number in his four years. He just signed with somebody for 1s-2seAsons.
Sims was very useful with use. His been one of our top 4 receivers from a top passing offense. He will be playing next year.
Phampile has given us many starts. He was a very good backup for 2 years and had a very good year blocking in 2016.
Not sure who else we got in that draft but they all look like good players to me.
March 22nd, 2018 at 8:35 pm
He seems like a guy you’d keep. I’m not anti-Sweezy but out of the two I’d go with the guy who has the ability to move around on the line and fit in just about anywhere.
One thing to note on Sweezy my understanding is that he’s still injured, so the team can’t actually cut him without an injury settlement. I wonder if they’re keeping him around for that or if they’re actually planning on him still be here. At this point I’d just take him to camp and let him play in the preseason and see how he does.
March 22nd, 2018 at 8:43 pm
This is why our depth sucks. .. unless he’s a pro bowler we don’t sign 2nd contracts for our draft picks.. always having to just draft replacements or fill in free agency whwre there wasn’t oreciously a hole
March 22nd, 2018 at 8:44 pm
Jimmyjack
The 2014 draft and 1 one remains on the team is not a good look
March 22nd, 2018 at 8:44 pm
Munch….Do you notice that there is no talk about Sweezy? It’s interesting not knowing what the team thinks.
You gotta think it’s a behind the scenes decision. How much effort is he giving the team? How is he in the locker room, with the players, coaching staff ect.
There just no way to tell what the Bucs are thinking
March 22nd, 2018 at 8:47 pm
I still like Evans Smith. He came off the bench last year and he was actually pretty dang physical. He was standing out quite a bit as the most physical guy on the field.
That’s guys a keeper for your Oline….And he needs to get more looks in goalline sets.
March 22nd, 2018 at 8:50 pm
The Bucs will be home watching Kevin Pamphile in the playoffs.
March 22nd, 2018 at 8:50 pm
Not really sure what our plan is here. It’s almost like we know Nelson will fall to us. Even if Sweezy somehow gets healthy, he kinda sucks, and probably won’t stay healthy. Maybe we are high on Benenoch, Mike Liedtke, or Cole Gardner at guard, but I don’t see how that could be possible, since Benenoch has not impressed in limited action and I don’t think the other two saw playing time.
There are 5 guards in the draft who could potentially start on Day One: Price, Wynn, Hernandez, Braden Smith, and Ragnow. But with needs at RB, CB, and S as well, and no 3rd round pick, it is suddenly looking like we won’t be able to get one of these guys….
UNLESS… more trades coming??????
March 22nd, 2018 at 8:55 pm
There once was a Man named Pamphile
Who we got as a 5th round steal
Never say he was dumb
He was as versatile as they come
Now heading to Tennessee, on a one year deal
March 22nd, 2018 at 9:04 pm
Pamphile acheived his dream. A kid from a very small college who fought and made the NFL. No..he is no Leroy Selmon, But the kid gave you what he had. He has played his role well and never complained. I wish Kevin Pamphile Gods speed and avsolutely nothing..but the best in Tenn.
March 22nd, 2018 at 9:06 pm
And you guys gotta remember one thing too now. Once you change a coach you are changing a lot of the players he drafted.
These guys weren’t drafted for Dirk Koetter. They were drafted for Lovie. Teams don’t just draft silly nilly. They pick specific types of players. If Lovie was still here you maybe resign these guys….maybe all of them.
Dirk getting rid of these players doesn’t mean they cant play. They just aren’t the type of guys he wants to play.
And this become s a problem within this fanbase. As a frachchise we are spinning on end with the coaching turnstile because that includes the rosters. It goes into turnstile mode too.
Same thing all the time with all the fans so worried about players achievements elsewhere. It’s the price you pay when you fire coaching every other year.
March 22nd, 2018 at 9:18 pm
I know that can sometimes be the case jimmy, you may have a point. I do think the better coaches are able to take what is given and use effectively. To me that’s a sign of bad coaching in a lot of cases… no flexibility
March 22nd, 2018 at 9:25 pm
No one is going to miss Kevin Pamphile. He had plenty of opportunity here to secure a starting role and wasn’t up to the task.
March 22nd, 2018 at 9:31 pm
All you bafoons understand, as with all positions especially O Linemen, there is the whole “2nd free agency” after the draft and cuts are made by all teams after they’ve filled their holes there….bafoons.
Go Bucs!
March 22nd, 2018 at 9:40 pm
@Joe (or anyone really)
Have you read or watched much of this Austin Golson prospect from Auburn? A legit late round LG/Swiss army knife prospect. He has played all 5 offensive line positions (in one season) and I watched the LSU vs. Auburn game this past year and he played at least 3 different positions on the O-Line in that game alone because of injuries. He started games and has good size too?’?
Please tell me someone or you Joe has come across this guy and thought of the potential and versatility (especially with Pamphile gone now)….
March 22nd, 2018 at 9:42 pm
Pamphile is gone because the you all think was signed to play center is moving back to his natural LG spot. I mean, come on.
Sweezy is still on the roster. They are not going to move him, and they won’t move Marpet to LG. Why mix up 3 spots on the line when you can just change one?
March 22nd, 2018 at 9:45 pm
Bonzai. Get this through your thick, neanderthal-like skull. Ryan Jensen was signed to play Center. End of story.
March 22nd, 2018 at 9:49 pm
RT Smith
RG Sweezy
C Marpet
LG Jenson
RT Dotson
March 22nd, 2018 at 9:51 pm
If they cut sweezy or draft a guard or RT things will change.
March 22nd, 2018 at 9:51 pm
Bonzai:
Marpet at RG is best for the team.
Jensen at C is best for the team.
Sweezy at LG be an early draft pick is best for the team.
Jensen signed to play C I assume, and Ali Marpet is a stud at RG. Let Marpet eat. Sweezy will either figure it out, or he won’t.
March 22nd, 2018 at 10:24 pm
Bonsai is an idiot
March 22nd, 2018 at 10:42 pm
Bonzai really is an enigma (as RLichtson says). Even if he made sense or had a good point, I’d still still think that….just by what and how he writes…and the way he says and writes it
I haven’t read, but only a couple of his posts and it’s already obvious. Sorry dude, but it’s true!
March 22nd, 2018 at 10:51 pm
Somebody here mentiones Sweezy? You Kidding Me!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The guy should have been dropped yesteryear! The Bucs are trying. Get rid of this parasite. He’s not going to help us be a winner. I know he’s licht’s favorite. But what does this say about releasing even players who gave more than him? HUH?!!
March 22nd, 2018 at 10:51 pm
All I know is Pamphile was one big dude. Had arms on him that looked like a I don’t know what!!! Wish him luck in Nashville.
March 22nd, 2018 at 11:17 pm
Man sometimes I think we could be sitting here the Saturday before the Super Bowl and we are in it the next day and some of you would still be b1tch1ng about something.
March 22nd, 2018 at 11:20 pm
Major mistake releasing Pamphile. His best position is RT. He played basketball in college and is a good pass blocker on the edge. Licht would have been able to use him at RT once our 30 Year old RT retires. Robinson has just gotten a gem to play RT right out from under Licht’s blind eye! He has gotten good run blocking experience here so he can also play all five line positions for the Titans. Sweezy will never recover his production he had prior to his back operation and was awful at RG since he lost his flexibility. Benenoch can backup both Guard positions but he has proved he can’t play Tackle in the NFL. Licht better hold his breath his OL starters never get hurt this year!!!
March 22nd, 2018 at 11:29 pm
Sweezy sucks.
March 22nd, 2018 at 11:31 pm
Simple as that..
March 23rd, 2018 at 1:26 am
Ndog, they will be bitching while the Super Bowl parade rolls along Dale Mabry Highway…
March 23rd, 2018 at 6:24 am
Guess he wanted to block for a playoff winner
March 23rd, 2018 at 6:55 am
I liked what Pamphile did as aswing tackle. Even though it was a smaller sample
size, the Pamphile- Christie gap had 5.0 average compared 3.4 or so for Marpet-
Christie gap in 2016. Was this because Christie could not push off as well to the marpet side due to his injury or just that Pamphile was playing good football?
That said his play has tailed off, either because of injuries or possibly because he
struggled with the fact that the Bucs were trying to replace him with both Sweezy
and Evans. I seem to remember him going home for a short time after the Sweezy signing.
March 23rd, 2018 at 7:01 am
Edit: Those run averages were probably from 2015 since we signed Sweezy in 2016.
March 23rd, 2018 at 7:25 am
Hey, Mike Johnson?????
Pamphile came from “very small college??!!” Purdue?
March 23rd, 2018 at 9:35 am
They just let go of a quality backup lineman.
March 23rd, 2018 at 9:56 am
Pamphile was on the upswing his 1st 3 years – looking like he could become a decent (and versatile) starting Guard and grading well in 2016. Then he totally disappears in year 4 – a contract year no less. WTF??? Bucs gave Kevin chance after chance after chance after chance last year to show that he was worth re-signing. But he was thoroughly outplayed by Evan Smith who the Bucs think so much of that he was let go in FA as well…
Pretty sure the Bucs are drafting a guard sometime in the 1st 3 rounds this year.
Would love to have Nelson in the 1st or Hernandez in the 2nd.
March 23rd, 2018 at 10:16 am
Just because he has one bad season when the ENTIRE team was awful means we shouldn’t re-sign Kevin to backup money with a chance to start(which is exactly what he signed for)? Come on now.. We’ve brought or held onto worse situations
While I have faith this regime can continue to sign players and manage the cap for the future.. He was a cheap utility backup that knows our offense at the minimum that we let go which will hurt during the draft(forcing us into a late round pick at the bare minimum as opposed to BPA at that point). Sweezy and his 6 million while not guaranteed is still a pretty significant sum for a dude who can’t stay healthy and also had a bad season.
Good luck Kevin
March 23rd, 2018 at 10:29 am
Sweezy played LG for Seattle so that’s where he’ll be if he ever recovers. I think the Bucs are higher on Benenoch than people realize. He hasn’t proven he can’t play RT. I thought he actually did a good job there in the last game against the Saints. Benenoch will be our new RT when Dotson gets hurt this year. We don’t need Pamphile. We need a LG in the draft.
March 23rd, 2018 at 10:34 am
@Batman Wood
Kevin wasn’t just a RT.. He literally played every position on the line except for Center I believe.. Cheap still young utility OL that knew our offense.. Benenoch being a backup RT doesn’t change any of that and easily room for BOTH
March 23rd, 2018 at 10:57 am
Tape don’t lie Phillip. Pamphile was bad last year. And it wasn’t because of injury.
What’s puzzling to me is that Sweezy was worse than Pamphile – and costs $5.8M against the cap this year. We should have cut Sweezy (saving $4M w/ $1.8M dead cap hit) – and used about $2-$3M of that to re-sign Pamphile to a 1 year “prove it” deal like he got in Tennessee – unless we are for sure bringing in a player that is an upgrade to both of them.