Legal Tampering Reports (Open Thread)
March 8th, 2016
Legal tampering is here!
Joe is keeping this post near the top of the home page to update any reports and rumors of the Bucs and potential free agents.
UPDATED 03/08, 7:49 p.m.
03/08, 7:49 p.m.: Apparently, the Bucs were not even a finalist for defensive end Charles Johnson, per ESPN’s Josina Anderson.
03/08 5:01 p.m.: NFL Network claims defensive end Mario Williams about to sign with Miami for $8 million per year.
3/08 4:04 p.m.: Daniel Jeremiah of NFL Network suggests the Jaguars are prepared to throw bags of cash at defensive end Olivier Vernon, who Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht had previously expressed interest in.
03/08, 4:03 p.m. Darrius Heyward-Bey re-signs with the Steelers. Joe was eyeing the veteran receiver/speedster as depth for the Bucs.
03/08 4:01 p.m.: Pat Kirwan, the former Jets personnel chief working for SiriusXM NFL Radio, says there’s “no chance” Dolphins defensive end Olivier Vernon plays for Miami this year.
3/08 3:05 p.m.: Houston Chronicle beat writer Aaron Wilson says Texans have strong interest in Lamar Miller and $6.5 million per year is the number. Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times fires a Twitter back at Wilson and says that should mean Doug Martin will command more per year.
3/08 2:21 p.m.: Ian Rapoport of NFL Network claims the Houston Texans are in heated negotiations with Dolphins running back Lamar Miller.
03/08 1:42 p.m.: – NFL.com says digit-challenged Jason Pierre-Paul will return to the New York Giants. Another defensive end off the board.
03/08 1:27 p.m. – Adam Schefter of BSPN says DE Malik Jackson will be paid $15 million per season by the Jags. Mario Williams, and his alleged claim of wanting $10 million per year, seems like a bargain now.
03/08 1:11 p.m. Josina Anderson of ESPN is Tweeting that Broncos premier free agent, DE Malik Jackson, is heading to Jacksonville. Watch for a break-the-bank deal.
03/08 1:01 p.m. Raiders make soon-to-be former Ravens guard Kelechi Osemele the highest paid guard ever— 5 years, $60M max, per NFL Network. Pay attention Ali Marpet. Keep working.
03/08 9:30 a.m.: BSPN is reporting the Dolphins restructured Ndamukong Suh’s contract and will have $16 million more under the salary cap to chase free agent defensive ends, a position the Bucs may/should be in chasing.
03/08, 8:34 a.m.: In news that Joe is convinced will mesmerize Bucs fans all over the globe, Tom Pelissero of USA Today Twitters the Bucs have tendered restricted free agent WR Russell Shepard.
03/07, 11:40 p.m.: Bucs S Chris Conte is receiving the coveted “interest” from several teams, per Rand Getlin of NFL.com. Though the Bucs would like to retain his services, Conte is intent on testing the free agent market.
03/07 9:49 p.m.: Omar Kelly of the Fort Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel reports that Miami running back Lamar Miller “will not” return to the Dolphins.
03/07 6:47 p.m.: In case Doug Martin walks, the Bucs appear to have Jets RB Chris Ivory in their sights, per Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times.
03/07 5:01 p.m.: Cleveland beat writer says Bucs are teams pursuing starting right tackle Mitchell Schwartz.
03/07 4:01 p.m.: Former Bucs first-round pick and last year’s Falcons sacks leader, Adrian Clayborn, is drawing interest from Giants, Jaguars, Cowboys and Dolphins, per Ian Rapoport of NFL Network.
03/07 3:36 p.m.: Per Greg Auman of the Tampa Bay Times, there appears to be a good chance S Keith Tandy returns. New contract could be signed in “days.”
03/07 1:48 p.m.: Ian Rapoport of NFL.com claims “at least” six teams are after Bucs running back Doug Martin.
03/07 1:40 p.m.: The site ProFootballRumors.com reports that Mario Williams would sign right away with any team that offered him $10 million a year.
03/07 1:18 p.m.: Per Rand Getlin of NFL.com, the Bucs “expressed interest” in interviewing Seahawks right guard J.R. Sweezy. The 27-year-old made 46 starts over the last three seasons.
March 7th, 2016 at 1:36 pm
J.R. Sweezy #64 G. Seattle Seahawks | Official Team Site. Height: 6-5 Weight: 298 Age: 26. Born: 4/8/1989 Mooresville , NC. College: North Carolina State.
March 7th, 2016 at 1:40 pm
So, he would be the starter, and Pamphile still comes off the bench, correct?
March 7th, 2016 at 1:41 pm
Wow. Poor Kevin Pamphile. How long did his era last? Two threads. LOL
He knew he’d have to fight for the job in training camp anyway. In fact I’d like to see somebody like this come to camp and liven up the competition.
Our OL could be stout this year. 3 starting tackles….3 starting guards…some talent and some depth and competition. Should be an interesting year.
March 7th, 2016 at 1:44 pm
Hopefully anybody not named Winston, LVD, and McCoy wont be named a starter until at least pre season. Mistake #1 made by Loser Lovie was handing starting jobs to undeserving individuals. I am positive Koeter knows this.
March 7th, 2016 at 1:46 pm
Shoot! I’d sign with any team that offered me $10 million too! That asking price is a little steep.
March 7th, 2016 at 1:48 pm
Maybe they see Sweezy as a center? An upgrade? Or maybe they’re happy having Pamphile as a versatile reserve.
March 7th, 2016 at 1:54 pm
Heres a rumor. Giants may cut Victor Cruz…. Now that would be an upgrade. A man can dream.
March 7th, 2016 at 1:56 pm
Sweezy is a scumbag who assaulted a 65 year old bus driver when he was in college. Put the old guy in the hospital. Give me Incognito before this guy!
March 7th, 2016 at 2:03 pm
I’m hoping they go after Travis Benjamin. They could sign Roddy White as well, but Benjamin would be a great slot and returner.
March 7th, 2016 at 2:04 pm
As far as Williams…Perhaps $8 million base with Pro Bowl and 10+ sack incentives that would equal $10 mil. If we drafted a a Nasty DL like Rankins or are lucky enough to get a top DE our D-Line would start to look pretty fierce!
March 7th, 2016 at 2:12 pm
The moral police is out i see. Someone makes a mistake in college and some want to label them as that for the rest of their life. Hey, i guess manning is a scumbag too.
March 7th, 2016 at 2:17 pm
what about the cleveland center mack?? also what about picking up jameis TE from FSU O’Leary and kick the tires on him I think he is on Practice Squad with Bills so anyone can get him I think
March 7th, 2016 at 2:20 pm
Tint Tim, there are mistakes, and then there is beating a grandpa bad enough to put him in the hospital. But if he can block, all is forgiven right?
March 7th, 2016 at 2:20 pm
Tiny Tim, there are mistakes, and then there is beating a grandpa bad enough to put him in the hospital. But if he can block, all is forgiven right?
March 7th, 2016 at 2:20 pm
D Goldson is available and I am guessing that the new and improved Coach Smith could use him effectively on defense
March 7th, 2016 at 2:38 pm
BACK-STABBER, YOU SIR ARE ON YHE CLOCK!!
March 7th, 2016 at 2:52 pm
Can’t sign this guy he once stepped on a caterpillar just before he turned into a beautiful butterfly. And his smile isn’t big or beautiful enough. #NOAP
March 7th, 2016 at 2:59 pm
No news of the bucs really going for guys.. Does that mean no real interest or keeping our game plan silent til Wednesday ???? We have a lot of money and can afford a couple of new starters
March 7th, 2016 at 3:12 pm
Mack is talking to the Dirty Birds.
The Browns are talking to Benjamin. Yeah right. Why would any FA go to Cleveland? Hell, Mack voted with his feet to get the hell out of there.
March 7th, 2016 at 3:14 pm
Do the Bucs view Kenny Bell as a 4th WR and KR?
March 7th, 2016 at 3:39 pm
[Banned for crimes against Joe. Been pretty clear for damned near a year what happens when you wrongly claim a Bucs player committed a felony. At the end of the day, Joe is legally responsible for what people type on here. Hate to do this to a long-time commenter but some folks just don’t get it. — Joe]
March 7th, 2016 at 3:53 pm
Just saw Charles Johnson in the Giants building..he’s coming to Tampa tomorrow , right?
March 7th, 2016 at 4:03 pm
Joe, do you know if Charles Johnson is in or headed to Tampa yet? Just curious if he makes it out of New York being that they scheduled a second meet this morning.
March 7th, 2016 at 4:07 pm
LifeofaBucsFan,
Thanks for the update, its crazy i saw your post after refreshing my screen. Lol however, it was my understanding that he were supposed to meet with the Bucs today. This cant be good news if he still there.
March 7th, 2016 at 4:21 pm
@ joe
I was not talking about americas quarterback. I was talking about manning’s sexual assualt in response bucjunkie’s comments. I even mentioned manning in my previous post. Dont worry, everybody loves americas qb except michael johnson. I will repost with mannings name and settlement due to sexual assault
March 7th, 2016 at 4:22 pm
Second visit with the Giants..hmm…another good one to scratch off the list, I wonder..
NFL network had the building he was in..and of course the announcer made me feel pretty ill..lol…
March 7th, 2016 at 4:33 pm
I don’t remember the source but the second meeting with the giants was supposed to be this morning. Its nearly evening time!!! I hate to jump the gun on this and I hope I am wrong but it appears he not coming (sad face). Being that the Giants are bleeding into our time, it appears he is sold and they may be negotiating a contract.
March 7th, 2016 at 4:45 pm
BTW, CJ Anderson was given a restricted tender by Denver. For the lowest possible amount.
Interesting.
March 7th, 2016 at 5:11 pm
@ bucsjunkie
I am sorry but some may consider a sexual assault act and settlement that manning went through just as serious as beating someone especially if you have a sister, daughter or mother. Who is to say which one is worse? People have different moral compasses. I say, if both participated in “moral” wrong doings while 19 and in college but have done nothing like that since, then what difference does it make? Who are you to judge a person for one mistake and try to label them as such for the rest of their life? You come across as a judgmental prick (not trying to call you names). And I am willing to bet you are not perfect. I am also willing to bet that if you ever had an alcoholic drink, there are some who might think your morals are out of whack due to their beliefs. That’s the point I’m making. Your moral equator/cut off is different than many. That does not mean you are right or wrong, it means there are bigger fish to fry than to be worried about a 19 year old’s mistake and still hold him and judge him by that one incident as if people do not change.
March 7th, 2016 at 6:09 pm
Mario would sign for 10 mill a year? Do it. That’s less than I was expecting. 3 years 30 mill. Get it done Licht.
March 7th, 2016 at 6:22 pm
Mitchell and George Iloka(safety) should get serious consideration
March 7th, 2016 at 7:17 pm
Please not Ivory. He has been bounced around more than Martin off of defenders.
March 7th, 2016 at 8:07 pm
Agreed. I don’t think there’s any way that Ivory is the replacement plan for Martin. Probably just taking a look for depth. Licht seems like the kind of guy who does his due diligence.
We shall see though. This off-season will be great insight into the mind of Jason Licht. As long as he doesn’t try to outsmart himself (being too Belicheat-ish), I think we’ll be good. Drafts have been incredibly solid, needs to do better in FA.
March 7th, 2016 at 8:21 pm
I swear to god if we are stupid enough to bring in chris ivory at 2 mil a year less than what martin gets my heads going to friekin explode. I was not impressed with Ivory at all. The O LINE didnt help in NY but Ivory has become a loaf since leaving NO. I used to be a fan of his but its easy to tell when a rb doesnt have heart every game. Even with the high mileage I would be much more interested in matt forte over any other back in the leage at this time.
March 7th, 2016 at 8:22 pm
Couch Fan Says:
March 7th, 2016 at 1:54 pm
“Here’s a rumor. Giants may cut Victor Cruz…. Now that would be an upgrade. A man can dream.”
Victor Cruz is not good. He’s struggled with injuries since 2013. Hasn’t reach 1,000 yards since 2013.
Dusthty Rhothdes Says
“what about the cleveland center Mack?”
“D Goldson is available and I am guessing that the new and improved Coach Smith could use him effectively on defense”
Why get a center when it is not a need? We have too many needs already. Our center has a great guy there, and we were lucky to find him.
Dashon Goldson, who I assume you mean, is the main reason the refs started calling pentalties on the bucs (in an out of control way). We’re still trying to shape it. We do not need him back!
March 7th, 2016 at 8:22 pm
How did Brent grimes play last year fellas?
March 7th, 2016 at 8:23 pm
Count me as against Victor Cruz as well. He would not even be a good backup.
March 7th, 2016 at 8:24 pm
Sorry, I meant against Chris Ivory!
March 7th, 2016 at 8:28 pm
Hopefully the DeMarco Murray trade plays in the Bucs favor with Martin. The contract with the Eagles was an outlier and not the fair market value for 2nd contract RBs.
So glad Chip Kelly backed out of his deal with the Bucs a few years ago.
March 7th, 2016 at 8:29 pm
@dabucs
It doesn’t matter how Grimes played. Don’t want him if his wife is still around. She’s trouble.
March 7th, 2016 at 8:43 pm
Oooh..I am going to chime in on Brent Grimes..I think he’s a great player..I follow Miami only because of my family ties there..so why not have a look at him?
As far as his wife..she saids it how it is..but we’re not going to pad her up, dress her in pewter and red..so it makes no difference to me with her as his wife..
I like this guy..but he’s like 31 or 32 now? Still has it!
March 7th, 2016 at 9:16 pm
The only positions we could get away with signing 29 or older veterans is QB (for backup), RB and WR. The only one of those that might be able to start is RB, if it is the right guy.
We don’t need Grimes.
We also, at this point, do not need Mario.
March 7th, 2016 at 9:49 pm
Ha..good update Joe..I just said the same thing about Lamar not returning to the fins..and someone said they weren’t going to let him go..I was like..well we shall see..lol…
March 7th, 2016 at 9:55 pm
Argh, this filter is driving me crazy!
March 7th, 2016 at 9:57 pm
My Free Agency Wishlist
Not all are projected starters, I also considered depth. I know we wond get all of these…of course not. This is a list of players I would love to get in Tampa.
RB Doug Martin (or RB Matt Forte on a one year deal if Martin isn’t resigned)
WR Jermaine Kearse
WR Marvin Jones
WR Roddy White
RT Mitchell Schwartz
LG Richie Incognito (younger than Mankins, who retired)
Note: I have my suspicions that the Bucs will put Evan Smith in Mankins spot
DE Jason Pierre-Paul
DE Charles Johnson
S George Iloka
CB Casey Hayward
March 7th, 2016 at 9:58 pm
Finally! Took 4 times to get is to show lol
March 7th, 2016 at 9:59 pm
Rumors are the Bucs are already showing an interest in one of my guys…RT Mitchell Schwartz!
March 7th, 2016 at 10:03 pm
I could see us signing WR Roddy White, and then signing either WR Marvin Jones or WR Jermaine Kearse
March 7th, 2016 at 10:15 pm
You can never have too much oline depth. If we sign Scwartz, let him, Smith and Pamphille all compete for left guard and right tackle.
March 7th, 2016 at 10:17 pm
I think Roddy White is a done deal.. announcement soon..and why not, right? He even wants to come here!
Haven’t heard anything else about Johnson visiting Tampa..heck, I am not sure he’s even left NY yet..maybe he’s already home shopping??..
There’s always Hardy! j/k!!!!!
March 7th, 2016 at 11:49 pm
If we don’t keep Doug we need to go after Miller, who may be an upgrade imo
March 8th, 2016 at 6:13 am
@tiny Tim
Ignoring the judgemental prickly comment, I do agree with you on most of what you said. I’m typically all for giving 2nd and even 3rd chances. I guess in Sweezy’s case I just happen to know a how bad he beat the guy because my ex gf was friends with the old man he curb stomped. But you’re right, if it was just a mistake and he learned from it, bring him on if he can help the team. I can’t argue with that.
March 8th, 2016 at 7:49 am
Any news on Jameis getting together with the WR? Or is he waiting for the team to sign a FA Wideout first?
March 8th, 2016 at 8:49 am
@largo bucks
Why on earth would we have Mitchel Schwartz competing for a starting job with any of the other bums on our two deep list? He would instantly be our best o-lineman.
March 8th, 2016 at 9:16 am
@Joe
How can adrian slowborn be the Atlanta Falcons sack leader with 3 sacks, When Vic Beasly has 4 sacks!!!!
March 8th, 2016 at 10:09 am
i don’t understand “restructuring” of contracts. that’s such nonsense. if Miami was dumb enough to give Suh a dumpster full of cash, they should be stuck on the hook for his $28 million cap number for this season. moving stuff around to free up more than 50% of that is ridiculous to me.
March 8th, 2016 at 10:16 am
CHARLES JOHNSON!!! Looks like they are announcing it soon. I wanted Mario but this is Fantastic. Don’t detract, he is better than any DE they have and healthy again. He’s capable of being 10 sacks per for the next 3 years. It’ll give time for a rookie DE to develop.
March 8th, 2016 at 10:20 am
Big Marion.
Why does it matter? Someone under performs, pay less. Overperform, they demand more. What is wrong with that? Its like real life. Unlike baseball where the guaranteed BS ruins teams
March 8th, 2016 at 10:46 am
Just watched interview with PACMAN JOnes, go out and sign that man, he seems like a humbled guy and wants to be a leader and has grown up and is a heck of a corner….try and watch the interview on espn, would be a great addition to the bucs secondary
March 8th, 2016 at 11:59 am
@ bucsjunkie
I wasnt trying to call you a name my buc brotha!!! I was just making a point.
March 8th, 2016 at 12:34 pm
Free agent wish list (in no particular prioritized order), feel free to disagree/agree and/or add your own players you’d choose as GM to the list…first let me preface that whilst nice to have a boatload (pirate ship load) or cap space, keep in mind, the goal is to not break the bank and spend up our cap space on future players (Kwon, Jameis, Olinemen, etc.). Doug Martin….obviously try and retain our draft pick, but for the right price. Keep in mind the Buccs ran the ball one of the most times in the league last season, had an improved offensive line, and played a weak schedule. Not discounting Doug’s talents at all, but most winning teams don’t put a great deal of cap space into their running back position. Dwayne Allen…great skill set, under utilized in Indy. Koetter likes to use the TE, and good insurance policy with ASJ being nicked up the last year or two. Rodney Mcleod….young solid-graded safety coming from a good defense. Eric Weddle…the rich man’s version of Chris Conte….I am not big on signing older vets, but again, for the short-term and right price….some team will likely pay him well, probably won’t be us. Mark Barron….just kidding! Travis Benjamin…the knock on him is size (for a slot guy)…but that was also the knock on Derrick Brooks. While Evans has decent speed for his size, we dont have a burner (though we haven’t seen Kenny Bell hit the field yet). Benjamin won’t command a ton, and he’s one of the best available which also fits a need. Line him up in trips formation, and size won’t matter has he’ll get lost with our other tall trees. Greg hardy…just kidding! Casey Hayward…second fiddle on GB, but solid cover man. Ladarius Green….see Dwayne Allen. Tackle Mitchell Schwartz….the dude held Von Miller to zero sacks his last meeting with Denver..any questions? Kelvin Beachum…part of an excellent steelers oline before he got hurt. If Doug wants too much money elsewhere…Ivory/Lamar Miller. I think we have a Lamar Miller type in Chris Sims but rate Miller ahead of Ivory talent-wise….but Ivory gets the nod here with the redzone, short yardage work…not that Miller is not efficient or can be in those areas as well. Marvin Jones…terrific talent, never fully utilized with all the star power around him and because of the type of offense ran. Would be a great addition to our club if we don’t overpay. Robert Ayers…..lets see what our new dline coach can do with his talent?! George Illoka…I feel the Buccs can get proper safety help with this crop of free agents, and see us targeting at least one. Illoka is a guy I’d target first with his size and coverage skills. I feel our interior dline is solid, so I didn’t end up chasing the high priced interior guys in Damon Harris or Malik Jackson…but even a solid interior can be upgraded, you’re just going to have to pay out the wazoo…..and I would not. Sean Smith….solid-solid cover guy, but also played for a defense that created a ton of pass rush. I didn’t mention LB either, but we can do better than Lansanah. Not sold on mario williams unless its at the right price, again. He’d be a good mentor for the future replacement, but last year’s attitude issues and his age are a detriment to me…..
March 8th, 2016 at 12:39 pm
@feelthepewterpower-I like Benjamin, Sean Smith, ilkoa, Schwartz on that list. Not a fan of weddle, would like to go after Johnson,Williams,jpp. Need d.e. help bad, even a declining veteran will be better than what we got.
March 8th, 2016 at 1:15 pm
Malik Jackson got on with the Jaguars…
@feelthepewter…Benjamin and Johnson are big possibilities for us..as the teams start running out of money..we got a chance!
March 8th, 2016 at 1:20 pm
NFL net praising the Jags as they are spending like there’s no tomorrow…wonder how much this 6 year deal with Malik is going to cost them?..they are loading up for sure!
Can’t wait to hear “breaking news, the Tampa Bay Bucs are closing a deal with…”
March 8th, 2016 at 1:23 pm
On Malik, 6 year contract…..doesnt say how much yet but thats a DE thats taken what they couldve spent on Mario.
Safe to say Mario isnt going there.
March 8th, 2016 at 1:26 pm
Mojiska Says:
March 8th, 2016 at 12:39 pm
@feelthepewterpower-I like Benjamin, Sean Smith, ilkoa, Schwartz on that list. Not a fan of weddle, would like to go after Johnson,Williams,jpp. Need d.e. help bad, even a declining veteran will be better than what we got.
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no argument there about DE help….I m just not going to pay-up for anyone over 30. If it’s cap friendly/short term…..sure, no qualms with that.
March 8th, 2016 at 1:46 pm
JPP just resigned in New York, It’s time to pay Mario Williams!
March 8th, 2016 at 1:59 pm
Just caught Incognito’s tweet..looks like he’s staying put for another 3 years…I just scratched him off too…lol…
March 8th, 2016 at 2:01 pm
@Lifeofabucfan
Really?! ESPN is “praising” the Jags for paying M. Jackson $15 million a yr for 6 years. That’s ludicrous!
March 8th, 2016 at 2:10 pm
Bucs doing nothing substantial again, Shocking
March 8th, 2016 at 2:15 pm
chit, i cant sleep. We better go ahead and sign Johnson from the kitties! DE market is exploding and he’s already visited us so we probably have the best shot with him as far as top talent DE’s go.
March 8th, 2016 at 2:16 pm
Ian Rapoport is tweeting that the Texans are hot on Lamar Miller. They need to replace Foster.
March 8th, 2016 at 2:17 pm
An angry Johnson would be rather useful going against the kitties. Twice a year.
March 8th, 2016 at 2:19 pm
EXACTLY!
March 8th, 2016 at 2:19 pm
The Pack is sniffing Mate Forte now. I thought RB’s were a dime a dozen!
March 8th, 2016 at 2:20 pm
Like I had said before..I believe we get an edge up by hiring guys from the NFC south..I really, really want Roddy and Johnson…I want them so bad that I am thinking of upgrading my season tix if they come through..the knowledge they bring from their teams will be so valuable..I think Roddy is a done deal for us..
NFL net..having a segment coming up next on which teams could make the playoffs…the Bucs were on the little teaser..so let’s see ..lol…
March 8th, 2016 at 2:24 pm
@Joe
forget the rumors,,,,,,How can adrian slowborn be the Atlanta Falcons sack leader with 3 sacks, When Vic Beasly has 4 sacks!!!!
March 8th, 2016 at 2:25 pm
Sign everyone, sign everyone. WTF are we doing already?
Oh that’s right FA starts tomorrow.
March 8th, 2016 at 2:27 pm
Johnson visited with the DE starved NY Giants a few days ago and didn’t get much love (in fact it may have prompted them to give JPP a one year deal?). Now all I’m saying is that maybe the Bucs have done due diligence in some of these guys and aren’t sold on backing up the Brinks? I’m concerned like everyone else, but I’m not ready to panic either. It’s not like it was a huge success the last time the Bucs went all in on free agency, so maybe they’re more focused on getting guys that offer good depth…dunno?
March 8th, 2016 at 2:28 pm
In regards to Miller and the Texans: also reported they HAD interests in Martin but going hard after Miller. Maybe they were told Martin is staying put……
March 8th, 2016 at 2:34 pm
Already, I’m starting to get depressed. DM seems to be fine going to the highest bidder, Mario appears destined for Miami, JPP is staying in NY. It appears yet again we will leave plenty of cap space on the table all the while the Glazers insist spending money is not an issue. Prove it.
March 8th, 2016 at 2:39 pm
Free Agency perspective….is it really that important to “win” guys like Mario Williams or Charles Johnson? http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/winning-nfl-free-agency-is-a-myth-030316
March 8th, 2016 at 2:42 pm
Panic Time!!!!!!!! This is when we overpay. Last year we tried the “secondary free agent market” and that was as bad as the Primary FA’s from the year before. Well, here is to hoping Licht’s balls drop and he pulls the trigger on Dougie and maybe Vernon or Wake, Give up a damn 4th or 5th rounder if you have to. (Although if you re-sign Martin and get Johnson from Panthers, I will sleep better)
March 8th, 2016 at 2:44 pm
Vernon could probably be scratched off here soon….Jax are going after him like there’s no tomorrow..
March 8th, 2016 at 2:50 pm
I feel disappointment coming. On all aspects. Except maybe the draft. Hopefully we score at least Johnson.
March 8th, 2016 at 3:13 pm
@Joe
Where is the “Quarterly josh freeman fired” story!!!!
March 8th, 2016 at 3:32 pm
Just saw Charles Johnson say he is making decision tomorrow has to be with the bucs, hopefully he is still in Tampa! Hope it’s just the beginning of big news for our team
March 8th, 2016 at 3:40 pm
I’m not sure I agree that DM should command more dollars than Miller. But what do I know…
March 8th, 2016 at 3:45 pm
Byrd Says:
March 8th, 2016 at 3:32 pm
Just saw Charles Johnson say he is making decision tomorrow has to be with the bucs, hopefully he is still in Tampa! Hope it’s just the beginning of big news for our team
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That’s good news! Fingers crossed!! He’s on my top five in wish list…
March 8th, 2016 at 3:49 pm
2mor u will know my future!!! It’s going to be epic
THAT’S from Charles Johnson’s Twitter account!!!!!!
March 8th, 2016 at 3:50 pm
Me like..the “it’s going to be epic” part…IF he’s coming on board to the mother ship!!
March 8th, 2016 at 3:54 pm
I’m looking at his tweet and boy he’s got Buc fans all over it responding..even Carolina fans are saying he shouldn’t go to the bucs..as they are in the same division..lol…
This one excites me folks…this one got me today..
March 8th, 2016 at 4:00 pm
Mike Wallace anyone?
March 8th, 2016 at 4:12 pm
The Jags absolutely have to make these kinds of moves. Unlike the Buccaneers front office, the Jaguars have been very patient with their head coach. That entire staff has to show significant improvement in their 4th year together so it seems like they may be overpaying to be successful.
March 8th, 2016 at 4:20 pm
Charles Johnson a Buc. Look at his text
March 8th, 2016 at 4:23 pm
You received a text from Charles Johnson? o.O
March 8th, 2016 at 4:28 pm
Sorry. Tweet
March 8th, 2016 at 4:38 pm
Other sources are reporting that his tweet is Giants related..UGH!!!
I just tweeted Charles earlier…double UGH..
March 8th, 2016 at 4:39 pm
Guys. I get the desperation for some significant signings but, how in the heck can you read into his tweets as he will be a Buc. He could announce Jags or he’s staying in Carolina for all anyone knows.
March 8th, 2016 at 4:41 pm
Bucs official twitter posted an article with potential free agent targets with a pic of Johnson…….. trying to connect dots but not holding my breath.
March 8th, 2016 at 4:42 pm
I like Charles but his last name is Johnson.
Michael Johnson. George Johnson. See a pattern here? Lol
March 8th, 2016 at 4:43 pm
Dolphins have agreed with Mario for 8 mill a year. This is an epic fail by Licht. We need pass rush help more than anything else in this world. Forget about Martin. this should have been our priority. I get drafting and all that happy horse crap but that puts us on a 3 to 4 year plan which we have been on for 12 years. I can’t follow this crap anymore. I find myself getting pissed and I’m going to end up screwing up my clients’ tax returns.
March 8th, 2016 at 4:44 pm
Big Marlon B Says
“i don’t understand “restructuring” of contracts. that’s such nonsense.”
The player has to agree. This usually means he gets extra cash in advance, but the cap hit is pushed back.
March 8th, 2016 at 4:44 pm
Mario Williams./Dolphins 8mil a year
March 8th, 2016 at 4:44 pm
@feelthepewterpower
No way I am reading that without breaks…sorry, lol.
March 8th, 2016 at 4:47 pm
feelthepewterpower Says
“Free agent wish list (in no particular prioritized order), feel free to disagree/agree and/or add your own players you’d choose as GM to the list…first let me preface that whilst nice to have a boatload (pirate ship load) or cap space, keep in mind, the goal is to not break the bank and spend up our cap space on future players (Kwon, Jameis, Olinemen, etc.).
Doug Martin….obviously try and retain our draft pick, but for the right price. Keep in mind the Buccs ran the ball one of the most times in the league last season, had an improved offensive line, and played a weak schedule. Not discounting Doug’s talents at all, but most winning teams don’t put a great deal of cap space into their running back position. Dwayne Allen…great skill set, under utilized in Indy. Koetter likes to use the TE, and good insurance policy with ASJ being nicked up the last year or two.
Rodney Mcleod….young solid-graded safety coming from a good defense. Eric Weddle…the rich man’s version of Chris Conte….I am not big on signing older vets, but again, for the short-term and right price….some team will likely pay him well, probably won’t be us. Mark Barron….just kidding! Travis Benjamin…the knock on him is size (for a slot guy)…but that was also the knock on Derrick Brooks. While Evans has decent speed for his size, we dont have a burner (though we haven’t seen Kenny Bell hit the field yet). Benjamin won’t command a ton, and he’s one of the best available which also fits a need.
Line him up in trips formation, and size won’t matter has he’ll get lost with our other tall trees. Greg hardy…just kidding! Casey Hayward…second fiddle on GB, but solid cover man. Ladarius Green….see Dwayne Allen. Tackle Mitchell Schwartz….the dude held Von Miller to zero sacks his last meeting with Denver..any questions? Kelvin Beachum…part of an excellent steelers oline before he got hurt.
If Doug wants too much money elsewhere…Ivory/Lamar Miller. I think we have a Lamar Miller type in Chris Sims but rate Miller ahead of Ivory talent-wise….but Ivory gets the nod here with the redzone, short yardage work…not that Miller is not efficient or can be in those areas as well. Marvin Jones…terrific talent, never fully utilized with all the star power around him and because of the type of offense ran. Would be a great addition to our club if we don’t overpay. Robert Ayers…..lets see what our new dline coach can do with his talent?! George Illoka…I feel the Buccs can get proper safety help with this crop of free agents, and see us targeting at least one. Illoka is a guy I’d target first with his size and coverage skills.
I feel our interior dline is solid, so I didn’t end up chasing the high priced interior guys in Damon Harris or Malik Jackson…but even a solid interior can be upgraded, you’re just going to have to pay out the wazoo…..and I would not. Sean Smith….solid-solid cover guy, but also played for a defense that created a ton of pass rush. I didn’t mention LB either, but we can do better than Lansanah. Not sold on mario williams unless its at the right price, again. He’d be a good mentor for the future replacement, but last year’s attitude issues and his age are a detriment to me…”
There…I randomly inserted break so everyone can read it, lol. This concludes my public service for the day.
March 8th, 2016 at 4:53 pm
Bird Says
“Charles Johnson a Buc. Look at his text”
All I see is him saying we’ll know tomorrow, and then one guy replying with a bunch of Bucs pics.
March 8th, 2016 at 4:56 pm
cmurda Says
“Dolphins have agreed with Mario for 8 mill a year. This is an epic fail by Licht.”
I disagree.
I’m no fan of Licht, but he did the right thing there. The Dolphins might have to remove the tag they applied to Vernon.
March 8th, 2016 at 4:58 pm
So JPP and Richie Incognito are out for us 🙁
Scratch two off my wishlist.
March 8th, 2016 at 5:02 pm
@Bonzai..
I said earlier my wish list is like the size of a stamp right now..lol…
By the time it’s all said and done..greg hardy will be the only one left..lol…
March 8th, 2016 at 5:04 pm
Giants have to many needs to sign JPP and Johnson for big bucks. Plus giants announced deal with JPP. They would announce Johnson if landed him too. This Tweet came after JPP signed with Giants and after bucs visit with Johnson. Think bucs are keeping deal under raps cause they don’t want Doug Martin (their top priority) to feel unimportant cause we are going after other guys first and not getting his deal done. Just a conspiracy theory. Didn’t mean to get so many peoples panties in a bunch
March 8th, 2016 at 5:04 pm
@Bonzai..I think people are reading Johnson coming to the Bucs because he was in Tampa today..He was at Giants yesterday and came down here pretty darn fast..I think he posted that as soon as he was done in One Buc Place..
I am cautiously optimistic that we are snagging him..
March 8th, 2016 at 5:13 pm
BuccaneerBonzai Says:
March 8th, 2016 at 4:56 pm
cmurda Says
“Dolphins have agreed with Mario for 8 mill a year. This is an epic fail by Licht.”
I disagree.
I’m no fan of Licht, but he did the right thing there. The Dolphins might have to remove the tag they applied to Vernon
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Agreed, but Jax is still gonna make a play even after signing Malik Jackson.
Licht better be ready to rain money down on him if that tag comes off. Miami will get a compensatory pick if they remove the tag and Vernon signs elsewhere.
March 8th, 2016 at 5:18 pm
I can see it now, 2 year contract at 7 million a year the Bucs welcome their newest pirate, Greg “slappy” Hardy.
March 8th, 2016 at 5:21 pm
If the Bucs sign Greg Hardy…I might have to boycott watching games.
March 8th, 2016 at 5:22 pm
Greg Hardy should not even be offered work this year.
March 8th, 2016 at 5:27 pm
@ Ben
That’s not true, they won’t receive a compensatory pick it he leaves. Under the transition tag, Miami simply gets a chance to match any deal another team offers. If they don’t, he walks. No compensation required.
Under the non exclusive franchise tag, the compensation would be 2 first round picks.
So that means Licht can make a run at him and not lose anything.
March 8th, 2016 at 5:29 pm
LOL @ Ghost..
March 8th, 2016 at 5:30 pm
You guys are hilarious. Thank you
March 8th, 2016 at 5:41 pm
BuccaneerBonzai
Look greg hardy is no choirboy and in no way shape or form do I condone any type of violence against women but let’s be be accurate here he did not commit a crime against mother Theresa it was a gold digging cocaine wh0re stripper that took the money and ran… Harldy a lady who is going to win Citizen of the week. Was he wrong yes…. Is he a hot head yes! Does he deserve a death sentence NO…. The bucs tried the choirboy experiment and it failed miserably… I respect your opinion I really do but I thought good Christians and most other religions preach forgiveness and second chances…
March 8th, 2016 at 5:44 pm
No way. Mario Williams on a 2 year deal at 8 mill per year would have been a bargain. It would have given us a stud anchoring 1 end which is far and away our greatest weakness. Vernon has a little more NFL life but he’s going to cost us more if he is even available to us. We can’t rely on the draft exclusively especially since we have a boatload of cap space.
March 8th, 2016 at 5:47 pm
I think there is a good chance we’ll see another Johnson as our new DE.
March 8th, 2016 at 5:49 pm
@ Big Marlon B
Did you even read what Ben wrote/replied to (buccaneers bonzai)?!? If you’re going to take the time to reply to someone’s post, why don’t you actually read the content with which you consequently will reference and reply to.
Under the premise that the Dolphins rescinded the tag on Vernon like Bonzai and Ben referenced than yes, if Vernon were to sign with another team, the Dolphins would indeed receive draft pick compensation in next years draft.
March 8th, 2016 at 5:56 pm
Looks like another year with no pass rush… Maybe 2017 offseason.
March 8th, 2016 at 6:01 pm
…and now with the cap space committed to Williams this year and on their d-line collectively, the Dolphins may have actually pigeon-holed themselves (barring any more major reconstruction of contracts/trades/releases) into having to part ways with Vernon. And if the someone does offer Vernon a contract and subsequently overpays or frontloads the contract like maybe we do or the Jags (i.e. Bills with Charles Clay), then the smart business move by the Dolphins just might be to rescind the transition tag and at least part ways with Vernon, while adding a 3rd or 4th round draft pick in next years draft in the process.
March 8th, 2016 at 6:11 pm
TBBF…it’s easier on the uniform people. Just change numbers, the sizes are nearly the same.
March 8th, 2016 at 6:21 pm
@JGhoti86,
If we did land Vernon and that’s assuming Miami rescinds the tag, the compensatory pick they would receive would be from the NFL, not from us. Is that correct?
March 8th, 2016 at 6:33 pm
@cmurda
Exactly!
March 8th, 2016 at 6:39 pm
…we don’t lose draft picks in either of those 2 scenarios, but if Vernon doesn’t have the transition tag on him and Miami rescinds it, that does hurt our chances a little, simply by clouding the market even more for him and adding more players/teams to the game of signing him. Where as if Vernon is left with the transition tag attached to him, teams like us, the Jags, Raiders, etc. stand a better chance of fleecing the Dolphins right now by the aforementioned overpaying or frontloading a contact with salary strapped Dolphins.
March 8th, 2016 at 6:42 pm
…we don’t lose draft picks in either of those 2 scenarios, but if Vernon doesn’t have the transition tag on him and Miami rescinds it, that does hurt our chances a little, simply by clouding the market even more for him and adding more players/teams to the game of signing him. Where as if Vernon is left with the transition tag attached to him, teams like us, the Jags, Raiders, etc. stand a better chance of fleecing the Dolphins right now by the aforementioned overpaying or frontloading a contract with the salary strapped Dolphins.
March 8th, 2016 at 6:58 pm
Please call Travis effing Benjamin asap licht. And yes Ivory too. Grab the guard and tackle also and let’s draft defense. Cmon mannnnn
March 8th, 2016 at 7:02 pm
The sky is falling.
March 8th, 2016 at 7:15 pm
As you know 87, it’s always the sky is falling each offseason. I fall into the trap early on. Then, as I have time to reflect and the next season starts I usually learn pretty quickly that the sky did fall.
March 8th, 2016 at 7:19 pm
Well Man U should have a pretty solid year lol. Lots of extra money!
March 8th, 2016 at 7:40 pm
It’s that wonderful time of year when we all get to play armchair GM. Some folks are pragmatic and sensible, some folks are whack job delusional.
So I’m going to sit and wait patiently and let things roll out. I hope sensibly. I trust the GM and staff. My greatest source of joy is that Lovie’s new office is 1038 miles from OBP via I-75. Barely far enough.
March 8th, 2016 at 7:46 pm
No one good wants to play for this team it seems. We’re going to have to build only through the draft and trades…wait, it’s Jason Licht. Only through the draft.
March 8th, 2016 at 7:47 pm
Were not even mentioned as in the running for these guys.
But we sign Tandy WOO HOO.
Looks like the glazers are just hoping Jamis can get them 8 wins
By the way Charles Johnson Resigned with Carolina
March 8th, 2016 at 7:53 pm
Who is left on my wishlist? Dipping into previous versions now!
RB Doug Martin
WR Jermaine Kearse
WR Marvin Jones
WR Roddy White (probably)
RT Mitchell Schwartz (MUST!)
DE Olivier Vernon (maybe)
S George Iloka (Bucs don’t seem interested)
CB Casey Hayward (not great, but can play outside and slot)
March 8th, 2016 at 7:54 pm
Let’s get pot roast
March 8th, 2016 at 7:54 pm
I’ll take WR Jermaine Kearse and WR Marvin Jones over Travis.
March 8th, 2016 at 7:55 pm
Bruce Carter officially cut.
March 8th, 2016 at 7:57 pm
What side does Bruce Irvin play?
March 8th, 2016 at 7:58 pm
We were never even in the running for Johnson. He came close to Giants…his words.
March 8th, 2016 at 8:07 pm
Hey let’s go after Talib, Revis, and Bennett for our D!!! They might fill some holes. BARF!
March 8th, 2016 at 8:19 pm
Charles Johnson staying with the stinkin Panthers. I’m not sad over this one. Bitter over not getting Mario but not Johnson. It’s time to focus on the young Vernon whether or not Miami lifts the transition tag. We have more flexibility than Miami now has.
March 8th, 2016 at 8:38 pm
Call up Megatron, Favre him!!!
March 8th, 2016 at 8:39 pm
Bonzai! LMFAO! Your list is shrinking like mine!
Maybe Licht is making some great wheeling and dealing, trades with Denver, Pats and Carolina!
Oh wait…that was my dream last night..heavily sauced on Nyquil…
March 8th, 2016 at 8:41 pm
Bjorn Werner just released by the Colts. Former Nole, played with Jameis but left school early. Didn’t have a lot of success in IND, but maybe willing to come back to Florida…..?
March 8th, 2016 at 9:13 pm
I’m going to cry. Will we ever have a pass rusher.
March 8th, 2016 at 9:44 pm
Why are we not pursuing bruce irvin? Hes big enough to be a de fast and strong. Break the bank on him jason licht we have to snatch him away from the raiders.
March 8th, 2016 at 9:47 pm
@BucTrooper..I personally wouldn’t mind at all..he’s a very tough guy…
March 8th, 2016 at 9:48 pm
Bruce is going to Raiders…as of 12 minutes ago
March 8th, 2016 at 10:34 pm
And Ivory is gone!
March 9th, 2016 at 2:34 am
Martin to sign with Bucs, done deal as of 2:29am.
Bucs now focused on both Mack and Schwartz, big $$$