Fans “Got A Right To Be Pissed”
December 12th, 2025
Bucs co-owner Joel Glazer met with Jason Pierre-Paul on the field prior to last night’s game.
Bucs-fan rage is at an all-time high.
Heck, Joe is absorbing venemous darts for not calling for Todd Bowles to be fired this morning.
Some folks really need to chill. Don’t blame Joe for the Bucs losing back-to-back against the two-win Saints and the four-win Falcons — at home in December.
Joe wonders whether Team Glazer considers these catastrophic losses to bad teams on par with the ones that sank former head coach Jon Gruden in 2008, after his Bucs were 9-3 and finished 9-7?
Losing to two weaksauce division rivals in two weeks, man, if the Bucs drop a third in a row in the division on Sunday, Dec. 21 in Charlotte, that would be the definition of rock bottom.
Last night after the 29-28 loss to Peyton Manning Kirk Cousins, the human statue, iconic Bucs linebacker Lavonte David acknowledged the fan outcry. He referenced the high hopes for the 50th anniversary and how “they got a right to be pissed.”
Joe wonders what local pitchfork sales are in Tampa this morning.
December 12th, 2025 at 8:42 am
players are a reflection of the head coach, SOFT!
December 12th, 2025 at 8:42 am
Let Bowles finish this doomed season then fire him and most of the current staff.
December 12th, 2025 at 8:44 am
Fire Todd
December 12th, 2025 at 8:44 am
This team hit rock bottom when it let Liam bolt to Jacksonville.
December 12th, 2025 at 8:45 am
DMW
DeadManWalking
December 12th, 2025 at 8:46 am
Where’s Waldo Winfield? Paid and invisible.
December 12th, 2025 at 8:47 am
Liam Coen brought the offensive fire power with him to duuuuval. I miss last year’s offense.
Jason Licht, which edge rusher are you trading for? Bc drafting an edge sir, you cannot!
December 12th, 2025 at 8:48 am
Glazers have always made Hc changes at the end of the season. My question is, does waiting that long impact your ability to land a top flight candidate, like Kubiak?
Also. Give me an offensive coach, not a sorry defense and a revolving door at OC.
December 12th, 2025 at 8:48 am
Lastly, Baker has been sucking the last 6 weeks -injured sure- still sucking.
December 12th, 2025 at 8:50 am
@Joe – are you not able to post media on your site? post game press conferences, x posts, insights? It’s usually just commentary by you.. maybe a quote here and there. Curious.
December 12th, 2025 at 8:50 am
Followers of JBF understand that they cannot or will not call for firing
Steve Duemig certainly would!
Different relationships with OBP
December 12th, 2025 at 8:52 am
I have to be thinking about doing the same thing to Winfield we did to Dean last off-season
December 12th, 2025 at 8:53 am
Remember when we had an OC named Dave Canales? Wonder how he’s doing these days?
December 12th, 2025 at 8:54 am
Steve K, allegedly the Glazers were talking to Lovie Smith halfway through Greg S’s last season. Just because they have not announce a firing, for all we know they are calling agents as we speak. I feel bad for some of the assistants, they are going to pay the price for Bowles failure. Grizz did not get a fair shake with the injuries. Last night we saw brief glimpses of how good the O could be. Imagine it with a healthy O-Line and a healthy Baker (or if you are not a Baker fan, simply a healthy competent starting QB). A healthy Baker probably would have won last night, a couple more accurate throws, less happy feet…….
December 12th, 2025 at 8:54 am
It’s funny how at the beginning of the season everyone was lauding the coaching staff, afraid Coen might pillage the o-line coach or others. Baker was a concensus MVP candidate. The D was always suspect but played inspired football in several games before the bye. The team was 6-2. Bucs fans were elated! Then it all imploded. What really happened? Maybe I’m just ignorant about the underpinnings of football. So, could someone please explain what happened? Is it all just related to injuries or the perfect storm of elements that befall all football teams from time to time? I had a hell of a time getting to sleep last night after that debacle.
December 12th, 2025 at 8:57 am
Now, Now calm down. All is not lost. We still control our own destiny. Patience is a virture seldom found in Buc Fans but much needed today.
December 12th, 2025 at 8:57 am
Caption for the pic of JPP and Glazer: “JPP, do you think we should fire Todd Bowles?”
JPP Response: “Oh HELL TO THE YES!”
December 12th, 2025 at 8:58 am
Yeah. Agree with you, fort Myers Dave
Baker needs to find a way to stay healthy throughout the season. He’s faded each of the last few with us. Not blaming him bc he is tough, but man the hospital ball to Evans. Missing Egbuka late, getting 3 tipped passes, taking needless sacks, is tiring as hell to watch.
I’d call the bengals up and offer Waldo Winfield and Baker for Burrow. lol. 😂
December 12th, 2025 at 8:59 am
It’s at the point now where opposing quarterbacks are looking forward to playing the BUCS defense to pad their numbers to make them look better statistically.
December 12th, 2025 at 9:00 am
Bucco Rick,
If you think we are beating Carolina twice and a resurgent dolphins, you’re mistaken. We are going to out there in 10 days get our cheeks clapped by Dave and it will all be over. We are done. Defense is piss poor, baker is hurt and sucking, it’s sad to
See a wasted effort of Mike Evans and no support for Lavonte in his potentially last hoorah.
December 12th, 2025 at 9:00 am
i was pissed after the PATS game…
now im numb…
focusing on the draft….
OG Josh Braun would be a great fit
GO BUCS!!!!
December 12th, 2025 at 9:00 am
Beej, it would be interesting to see how AWJ would handle an ultimatum. Man his play has hit a trajectory that is almost Devin White like in how he has fell off from that All Pro year. I remember the Joes saying in AWJ’s rookie year that he and his Dad, the old Viking, broke down tape together. I bet they do not anymore or else his dad would be shaming him about why he was 10 yards off the ball on that 4th and 14.
December 12th, 2025 at 9:04 am
Fire him now and see if one of the many assistants can call the defense or AT LEAST force him to give up the defensive play calling. I believe we have the players just not the correct person calling the defense. Be aggressive and stay that way the ENTIRE fan base knows this team can’t play zone consistently and anytime it’s a long 4th we know he’s going soft zone and more than likely the team will pick it up.
Also why do our players slip so damn often while the opposing team seems to have no problem staying upright?
December 12th, 2025 at 9:05 am
Seems like once Winfield & McCollum signed their 2nd contracts and got their bags, their want-to disappeared……
Like I said last nite, Bucs D were a bunch of orange zombies walking/running around……
Got no energy, purpose, or heart whatsoever……
The coach tune-out has begun…..
Sad situation because this team had so much promise early in the season…
December 12th, 2025 at 9:05 am
At least Bics aren’t stuck with Mediore Mike’s contract for life. The only seat getting hot in the Burgh is his car seat when he hits the warm up button.
December 12th, 2025 at 9:07 am
I’ve appreciated (unlike many fans) for what Todd Bowles has done keeping his franchise afloat post Brady and he’s gotten a lot of unwarranted criticism over the years…..
But this year, especially has been hard to defend him. There’s no signs of this defense will get fixed and Grizzard has largely been a flop.
Granted, it’s quite an impossible task once you lose your first two OCs that you hit home runs on to keep hiring good ones.
December 12th, 2025 at 9:09 am
Also, what in the world is going on with Baker Mayfield? He doesn’t even look like the same guy out there, playing with not nearly as much fire as he used to. Just his body language seems off and can’t have that for a franchise QB.
December 12th, 2025 at 9:09 am
Joe, you guys are great for all you do everyday here, but it makes your readers feel stupid (which they’re not) for being out of sync with the sentiment. It also questions your independence as journalists, as if there’s consequences from the team like limiting your access, if you were up criticize the coaching, management or ownership. It just erodes trust.
December 12th, 2025 at 9:09 am
If your D-coordinator shows up that bad on a weekly basis, he should be fired. If that guy is also your head coach, ditto. Show of hands how many people thought the D would stop ATL from getting a field goal?
December 12th, 2025 at 9:11 am
What took some of yall this long to see the obvious?
I asked BEFORE last season started what about the decision making of Bowles and Baker makes you think they could go deep in the playoffs. And people insulted me and said I didnt know ball. Plenty of posters were saying it and treated the same way. This is the same team that lost in Detroit, and lost to Washington. The exact same team. Every team is only as good as it’s leadership.
Bowles and Baker just don’t have it.
December 12th, 2025 at 9:13 am
It’s more than some weaksauce divisional foe they are some of the worst teams in the league which I guess by now the bucs can be included in that awesome moniker.
December 12th, 2025 at 9:14 am
This team has no confidence or pride right now and we all know Bowles can’t fix it since nobody cares or respects his system!
December 12th, 2025 at 9:15 am
Someone PLEASE give Mike McCarthy a call and let him know how nice the weather is in Florida
December 12th, 2025 at 9:16 am
That stripped sack is what gets me too, how was that determined a tie?
December 12th, 2025 at 9:20 am
Matt Burke the DC in Houston would be a perfect fit for us. A modern 4-3 defense that lets the DL pin their ears back and get after the QB. He describes his defense as “violence up front”. That is exactly what we need.
The league scale is now starting to tip back towards the defense side of the ball. We could get ahead of that and hire a good one now. And btw having a killer defense is so on brand for the Bucs.
December 12th, 2025 at 9:20 am
There is absolutely no way I fire him now. Hanging this thing on whatever interim HC you would elevate wouldn’t be fair to them. This is Todd’s dumpster fire. Let him burn with it.
December 12th, 2025 at 9:20 am
There is clearly an element of this team that does not want to win.
Why ?
Two things appear obvious to me.
1. The defensive players have been fed up with Bowles for as long as the fans have been and are determined to see him go.
2. That situation would create an opportunity for players to make unexplained obvious mistakes or not give full effort.
The NBA and MLB have recently had gambling issues.
Is the NFL exempt from such issues ?
Is it not possible for the Bucs to have such an issue ?
December 12th, 2025 at 9:24 am
No need to worry about missing out on Kubiak. Seattle’s going to the playoffs, so we’ll have to wait anyway in that scenario.
As long as the glazers make the move that night or on black Monday we should be in a good place to compete for the better options.
December 12th, 2025 at 9:26 am
All it takes iz a new coach. You see that in New,England, Seattle, chicago and others. Bowles will be fired if he does not make the playoffs and win at least one game. The problem is we already gifted Jags and cougers great coaches.
December 12th, 2025 at 9:27 am
Sal,
I have not thought of the gambling issue…..and it would be a head scratcher considering how much money these guys make. It just goes to show that the defense is playing so bad that it could almost be believed that some were trying to lose last night. A team makes 19 penalties and you still can’t win? What did the Falcons get on offense? 450 yards? How many would they have gotten had they only made five or six penalties?
December 12th, 2025 at 9:29 am
Imagine the opposite. The Bucs start out 2-6 and then go 5-1.
Everyone would be excited about next year.
It’s time to call this what it is: a bad team coached by a bad coach.
Bowles has to go. So do Reddick. Hall. David. Dean. Zyon. Braswell. Winfield. Diaby. Otton. And SVD. Maybe some others.
Licht, don’t go down with the ship.
December 12th, 2025 at 9:33 am
I don’t think the defense has given up on Bowles. There’s only a few this year but a few games they played good football that shows they can do it when excited properly. I’m with Joe that there’s a locker room issue. Prob a few bad players. Had me thinking Winfield. He’s played terrible. He got paid and now has not lived up to it. It’s crazy cause he’s got all the talent. Maybe because of his high contract the Bucs don’t want to bench him but man it sure would send a message to the other players. Everyone including me want to blame Bowles but his defense has worked even this year and we’ve all witnessed it. If the players are executing then it sounds more like players and not coaches.
December 12th, 2025 at 9:33 am
I spend a lot of hard earned money on my season tickets. When I see lazy coaching, and lazy execution it just feels bad. I have never seen such poor defensive play. This is not the first time either. Heads need to roll. Too much money on the line. Time to clean house or I will get rid of my season tickets. At least they took away the special teams risk by kicking touchbacks. This is a case of inmates running the asylum, and the guards (coaches) are corrupt.
December 12th, 2025 at 9:38 am
Bucs need to fire Bowles, but yes it does reflect weakness that JBF has not called for the firing of Todd Bowles.
December 12th, 2025 at 9:43 am
WE have watched this same show forv4 years now . The secondary sucks .lights picks sucks ! To short to slow ! Coaching and play calling in the 4th. Up by 14 points just God awful as well as clock management. Roll out baker away from the rush ! Damn use your brain gizz
December 12th, 2025 at 9:50 am
I will remind everyone once again. After the defense obviously failed to play with effort during the Denver home game last year, Todd Bowles’ post game words were ” I had nothing to do with that !”.
December 12th, 2025 at 9:51 am
I think Todd Bowles has lost this team and should be fired , BUT JL also needs to answer to why he never made a move to get a real edge rusher on this team! He has drafted and not hit, he needs to get a proven Edge rusher in here. We get beat by pedestrian QB’s because even a average NFL QB can pick apart a defense when they have zero pressure and when you do these exotic blitzes the Bowles does it leaves the middle wide open and hangs the DB’s out to dry!!!
December 12th, 2025 at 9:51 am
The Washington game was tied. Bowles defense as usual couldn’t stop them The Almighty Kancey had the rookie QB stopped dead for a loss in the backfield. A minor stiffarm and he was left holding a sweat towel. A lucky doink won the game. But of course those with BEE in their bonnet ever since Baker arrived blame him for every loss. When we win they disappear for the week.
December 12th, 2025 at 9:52 am
ocala Says:
December 12th, 2025 at 9:38 am
Bucs need to fire Bowles, but yes it does reflect weakness that JBF has not called for the firing of Todd Bowles.
The bucs and the NFL butter their bread that’s why they constantly run cover for Todd
December 12th, 2025 at 9:52 am
SteveK Says:
Liam Coen brought the offensive fire power with him to duuuuval. I miss last year’s offense.
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Grizz is learning on the job without the experience that Coen had coming in, but I believe he’ll be fine as an OC in a second year if he gets that chance. He’s got a high football IQ, and played an instrumental role in the teams success on 3rd downs last season.
We scored 28 points last night with 60% of our starting offensive line missing.
It should have been enough when playing the Falcons.
December 12th, 2025 at 9:54 am
HIgh Football IQ, yes.
Connection to the players? Not sure. IQ and EQ are necessary.
December 12th, 2025 at 9:55 am
I think a few years down the road we’re gonna find out someone in that defense had gambling issues cause I was there last night. They were given up the food like it was free totally ridiculous.
December 12th, 2025 at 9:55 am
Joe says this:”Heck, Joe is absorbing venemous darts for not calling for Todd Bowles to be fired this morning.” As well you should absorb the darts, there is no path forward that has Bowles as coach. Simple as that. The defensive scheme is at the heart of this insurmountable mountain of sht..
December 12th, 2025 at 9:58 am
After giving up 4 points Zyon went back to the locker room to count his money. He was butt hurt in the game. Why Licht paid this guy early is beyond me. Just goes to show Licht is delusinal about this roster, and needs to be fired also. Maybe than we can draft real edge rushers, DT’s who weren’t college D ends, and real centers, and guards, not small school LTs. Licht can’t pick em, Bowles can’t coach em. Time for them to go.
December 12th, 2025 at 10:00 am
With such an obvious problem existing for the past three years surely the Glazers have seen what the fans see. Right ? There are far too many opportunities for speculation. I put Citrus County away seeking a fresh start. Roscoe was the s.m.o.k.i.n.g. g.u.n.
Now it’s time for smelling salts. Sal Volatile
December 12th, 2025 at 10:01 am
After that game Bowles should be fired today. Let Foote run it. Then look for a new coach.
December 12th, 2025 at 10:05 am
At this point it’s better to lose out. Higher draft pick, easier schedule next season.
December 12th, 2025 at 10:09 am
Bucs4Ever Says:
HIgh Football IQ, yes.
Connection to the players? Not sure. IQ and EQ are necessary.
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For sure IQ and EQ are necessary. But it would be challenging for any first-time play caller with zero experience given the injuries on offense this season. This IS the same OC on the team earlier in the season when we won a shoot-out against Seattle.
Now that he’s at least got his starting WR’s back I would expect more production, and last night was clearly an upgrade.
Unfortunately for Grizz though, if Bowles is forced to walk the plank, any new head coach will probably want to bring in his own OC.
December 12th, 2025 at 10:09 am
The Joes know that the Glazers will not act until after the season is over. They launched one DC, Smitty in season but never an HC. The last Buc HC to get canned in season was Perkins by Huch C in 1990. I would be interested to see what Ira thinks, he has called for Jason to get launched, what does he think about Bowles after such an embarrassing loss on national TV, another loss in creamsicle in front of many Buc legends. Does he think that the Bucs have any pride.
December 12th, 2025 at 10:10 am
Wow! Just unbelievable.
December 12th, 2025 at 10:12 am
Bowles was a competent DC, and maybe even a competent HC. But it takes a special individual to hold two top jobs in the NFL. Only a handful of guys can do both, and sadly, Todd isn’t one of them. Licht needs to telll him to hire a real DC or take the next bus outta town. And while you’re at it hire a real top OC instead of promoting a position coach! If I didn’t know better I’d think he was getting a cut of the money he’s saving the Glaziers.
December 12th, 2025 at 10:16 am
You have direct contact with both fans and the team. Joe, you are the only voice we have, so I’m extremely frustrated that you have remained idle over the past few years and are now not calling for action before the end of the season. Someone needs to be held accountable immediately!
Someone needs to be FIRED TODAY!! LAST WEEK!! A MONTH AGO!!
I mean he could at least throw us the sacrificial firing and get rid of the AWFUL SPECIAL TEAMS CORDINATOR!!
December 12th, 2025 at 10:22 am
Steve put it perfectly. I question your journalistic integrity and wonder whether your access to the team would be compromised if you were more critical.
Personally Who cares? The fans would know the truth, and that would be the final straw for the Glazers as owners. Fans would MUTINY!!
December 12th, 2025 at 10:22 am
FUBAR
December 12th, 2025 at 10:23 am
After an emotional roller coaster following the new franchise Buccaneers in warm sunny Florida for the past 50 years, taking me back to my post Navy time in Maine, I think it is hilarious for the 50th anniversary to turn out this way. I only feel badly for Baker Mayfield. The franchise that resurrected his career may have just killed it. Hugh Culverhouse still roams the halls of One Buc Place/Palace.
December 12th, 2025 at 10:23 am
7-10 is in sight, and from the looks of last night, probable. We might even get a top 10 pick.
December 12th, 2025 at 10:29 am
I’m starting to dislike the Glazers even more than I loathe Bowles. They know what must be done. What are they waiting for? Carolina to beat us? Todd Bowles is a career 500 man. Nothing more, nothing less. 28 pts is more than enough to win in this league. His Defense is straight out sorry and pitiful. If losing to Crolina will hasten Bowles departure? Then I’m sorry to say, Letrs go Carolina Panthers. I’m sick of Bowles. Give us fans some hope Glazers, Turn the page now.
December 12th, 2025 at 10:30 am
Coming to Joe’s defense I say this to the fans tossing poison darts at them, the Joes are reporters-journalists not opinion editorialists.
If the fans can’t see that…..well….
December 12th, 2025 at 10:36 am
Which highly paid player on this team does the most inexplicable things ?
December 12th, 2025 at 10:36 am
Well that game told us what we suspected. This team and coaching staff is cooked.
December 12th, 2025 at 10:36 am
Kayla Says:
December 12th, 2025 at 10:05 am
At this point it’s better to lose out. Higher draft pick, easier schedule next season. ********* I agree with this, but would add that if Bowles is not released after this season then there is no reason to even follow this team then. I have been a Bucs fan for the last 10 years I have watched NFL and this is the most consequential loss I have seen the Bucs have. Keeping Bowles after this shtshow would be a dagger to the 2026 season and beyond.
December 12th, 2025 at 10:38 am
Who would ever have thought that Pete Rose aka “Mr. Baseball” would do the unthinkable ?
December 12th, 2025 at 10:39 am
Mike Johnson Says:
I’m starting to dislike the Glazers even more than I loathe Bowles.
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Since the year 2000, there are only six teams in the NFL who have won at least two Super Bowls. The Buccaneers are one of those six, under the ownership of the Glazers. And I would bet both of our lives that they are wanting to win a third. You might want to reassess your feelings towards them.
December 12th, 2025 at 10:41 am
Just here to add/throw my dart at Joe
December 12th, 2025 at 10:44 am
Think about the games we probably should have lost earlier in the season….first Atlanta game and even the Jets game. Probably 1-2 more. This would be the 4-5 win team they look like today. So glad I wised up and stopped paying 1000’s of dollars to the Glazers every year. Y’all need to do the same.
December 12th, 2025 at 10:49 am
@Joe “Some folks really need to chill. Don’t blame Joe for the Bucs losing back-to-back against the two-win Saints and the four-win Falcons — at home in December.”
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Some folks are probably blaming you for climate change as well. 😉
December 12th, 2025 at 10:50 am
I follow this team because my dad liked them use to take him to games when he got old he passed away in 2003 that being said this is the worst i have scene
you expected this in the 80s and early mid 90s until dungy and the defence wd40
Everybody needs to go starting at the top all the way down brady and ba were a illusion done
December 12th, 2025 at 10:50 am
They ain’t firing until Black Monday. Unless we have miraculous turnaround. Let it play out.
December 12th, 2025 at 10:55 am
BucsFanSince1996 Says:
Since the year 2000, there are only six teams in the NFL that have won at least two Super Bowls.
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^^^^^ Correction. There have been eight teams that have won two or more.
(25% of the NFL teams).
Two Super Bowl wins by the Bucs since 2000 is pretty good. 19 teams have won ZERO Super Bowls during that time.
December 12th, 2025 at 10:57 am
Let’s talk some truth here. There was no way Liam was going to replace Todd, last year. No one fires a coach coming off a division title.
December 12th, 2025 at 10:57 am
But who to bring in? Who is his replacement?
December 12th, 2025 at 11:17 am
Bucs4Ever Says:
December 12th, 2025 at 10:57 am
But who to bring in? Who is his replacement?
^^^^^^
Precisely !
That is why I retract every favorable thing I have said regarding Bucs ownership. I truly thought they had built a solid foundation for a stable winning franchise. I think they offer no leadership and rule/manage by committee. I believe they are woke and politically correct. I believe the NFL is as totally corrupt as the entirety of our government, both federal, state and local.
And the fans keep paying for it !
December 12th, 2025 at 11:37 am
Joe clearly said “Joe wonders whether Team Glazer considers these catastrophic losses to bad teams on par with the ones that sank former head coach Jon Gruden in 2008, after his Bucs were 9-3 and finished 9-7?”
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It appears to me that for those throwing darts things are difficult to understand unless expressed in elementary school terms.
December 12th, 2025 at 11:40 am
Always a day late and a dollar short. Same as Father Dungy’s Tampa tenure.
Roster is talented and has another run left provided Licht get another good draft year in 2026. What’s missing is LEADERSHIP. Where is the 2026 version of Chucky? Who is that Coach who can get the team over the hump and won’t let up on the accelerator, ever!
December 12th, 2025 at 11:54 am
This season is reminding me of 2011 when we started 4-2 and lost out and got Raheem fired.
We should reinstate B.A. immediately to try and right the ship.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:00 pm
Fire Bowles. He has been inept every year. First with clock management then with consecutive mid season slumps. Now his defense can’t stop the run or pass. Teams are converting every 3rd down no matter the distance on this soft defense.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:01 pm
FIRE JASON LICHT!!!!
His choir boys are a bunch of losers and that makes him a loser.
The ring he wears around is BRADY’S not his. He’d be a Walmart greeter without Brady.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:03 pm
Good news is I think we moved up to 15th pick in the draft…a couple more losses and we may be top 12!
December 12th, 2025 at 12:03 pm
I was angry the last several losses. Now I’m just devastated
December 12th, 2025 at 12:04 pm
@Erik
I’m gonna say no to Arians only because he’d probably try and force us to take Leftwhich or someone else onto us when he inevitably steps down again.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:13 pm
JPP is the answer! Hahaha. Seriously, whole staff is garbage, has been the entire time Bowles has been HC.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:13 pm
Guys talking hiring cycle… ugh. We are a year too late!
Coen and Vrabel were such good candidates. Mike McCarthy!? Klint Kubiak!? Those names don’t excite me at all.
Stay away from McCarthy that’s for sure. Guy couldn’t win with prime Aaron Rodgers, how is he gonna win here?
Need fresher blood or an ass kicker like Campbell or Vrabel.