The Morning After

November 28th, 2016
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Bucs fans: When is the last time there has been a sweeter Victory Monday? C’mon, bottoms up on that JoeBucsFan Jason Licht Ale. We gotta get going.

Haters Pipe Down

Joe has noticed there are two big-time Bucs Pro Bowlers who fans have been beating over the head with a baseball bat in recent weeks. One is clobbered for no good reason other than to hate, and the other is battered with some merit. in which Joe has also been involved. Respectively, that has been Gerald McCoy and Lavonte David.

Why a good majority of Bucs fans hate on GMC, Joe just does not understand. The only conclusion Joe can come to is that these folks would rather have Akeem Spence start over GMC. It doesn’t make sense to Joe and never will. The unreal standards Bucs fans have for GMC is almost absurd. Because GMC isn’t Joe Greene in his prime, he should be thrown off the team? Stop it.

David? Well, this is his worst year in the NFL, highlighted by dropping a goose egg in Arizona. For much of the season, David has been a non-factor. Well. that changed Sunday.

Fans whine how these two guys are never around (allegedly) to make a play in crunch time. Well, last week it was GMC who tipped an Alex Smith pass that Chris Conte intercepted, basically saving the game. Last night, GMC was on fire with five tackles (that’s a lot for a defensive tackle in a 43 front, feel free to do the research) and 1.5 sacks. That one sack came late in the game when Russell Wilson was frantically trying to save the day for the Seahawks.

David? Just when it seemed the Seahawks were going to cut the lead to one score, David came up with a monster fumble recovery and returned the fumble 53 yards. That was easily the play of the game.

Time for the haters to find another target(s). Joe is confident they will. GMC answered the bell with a dominant performance, especially in crunch time, and David turned in the play of the game that may have saved the win.

Props to both.

Refs Bailed Out Bucs

When the Bucs were marching in the final seconds of the first half, Cameron Brate was belted out of bounds and the zebras ruled that the clock should keep running. The Bucs just ran out of time. But a few things here: The Bucs should have had a timeout in their back pocket. Why the ball wasn’t spiked rather than calling a timeout is still puzzling to Joe. And did anyone believe Roberto Aguayo would have made it had there been enough time on the clock?

The drive should have ended on at least a field goal try with a little smarter use of the clock.

Dominant Defense

Yes, holding one of the best teams in the NFL to a field goal (a safety like the Bucs allowed was a complete and total gift of two points) is impressive. But here is a statistic that will blow your mind:

Just before the game yesterday, Joe mocked on Blake Bortles on Twitter for having a total of 30 yards passing in the first half. Joe was incredulous: How can a quarterback not named Stewart McClown put up such paltry numbers in the NFL? Wait for it…

Last night, the Bucs held Pro Bowler Russell Wilson, one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, to 20 yards passing in the first half. Twenty yards!!!

That just blows Joe’s mind. No wonder Warren Sapp was shocked. It’s one thing to hold the likes of Case Keenum to low double-digits passing in the first half, but Russell Wilson? That’s otherworldly. In his poastgame press conference, Bucs coach Dirk Koetter credited the secondary with maintaining coverage long enough to allow the front line to get to Wilson.

Either way, what a dramatic lock up of one of the best signal-callers in the game. This will live in Bucs lore for decades to come. Very impressive!

Cast of Many

Throughout the second half, Joe was a nervous wreck. It had the stench of the Raiders game: Where the Raiders ran out of ways to give the game away to the Bucs, only for the Bucs to take the gifts back to the return department at Sears. The Bucs had many chances to put the Seahawks away, and couldn’t do it. Meanwhile, the Seahawks kept hanging around.

Each time it seemed Seattle would take advantage, someone made a key play. Whether it was GMC or David or Noah Spence or Brent Grimes of Alterraun Verner or Bradley McDougald or Kwon Alexander, someone stepped up and got the job done when a play was needed.

Rare Praise for a Punter

Bryan Anger constantly kept the Seahawks pinned in poor field position. Advantage, Bucs. Last night while recording tomorrow’s Ira Kaufman Podcast, Joe stated Anger may be one of the top two or three players at his position who also just happens to be wearing a Bucs uniform.

Yes, Mike Evans is close to being the best but not yet Julio Jones or Antonio Brown, but he’s getting there. Evans may not be A.J. Green. But he’s getting there.

Anger? Easily one of the better punters in the game, maybe the best. Rarely can someone say a punter was the MVP of the game or may have won the game for his teammates, but Anger’s performance yesterday is damned close. He was that good.


* How long does it take a running back to shake off the rust? It seems in Doug Martin’s case, about a month. This was his third game back after blowing a hamstring in Week 2. He’s not quite at his Pro Bowl form but he is getting closer.

* The way Cameron Brate is developing into a pass-catching threat as a tight end, does anyone remotely miss huge bowel movement, tweety Austin Seferian-Jenkins?

* Joe is getting this a lot on Twitter: Is Alterraun Verner playing his way back onto the roster for 2017? Joe doubts it. Unless Verner reworks his contract, it’s awfully hard to find a place on the bench for a guy making $6 million a year.

* In the first half, Joe clearly heard the warchant cry that many Bucs fans want to start for a tradition of sorts to support America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston. It wasn’t loud, but Joe could easily hear the warchant through the press box windows when the Bucs had the ball on a third-down snap or two. The warchant seemed to work in the first half, but when the Bucs offense went into a deep freeze in the second half, the warchant on third downs died.

* Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht sure has had an eventful last few days. First, when the Bucs played at Kansas City, Licht drove a few short hours up to Lincoln, Neb. to watch his alma mater Nebraska play Maryland as a guest of Larry the Cable Guy. Then, Licht paid up on last year’s bet with Iowa grad Brandon Myers. (Iowa pounded Nebraska this weekend, too) Licht showed up Friday to One Buc Palace in full Hawkeye regalia. You could tell by the photo that Licht was not a happy camper.

* Warren Sapp attended the game yesterday and he was in a crazy good mood. You don’t have to know Sapp is around because you can hear him. Sapp and Joe shared an elevator after the game going down to the tunnel where players leave the field. There, he bear-hugged GMC, his friend and pupil, and warmly embraced Alterraun Verner. As happy and proud as Sapp was to see the Bucs dominate the Seahawks defensively, he had a burr under his saddle. He did not like how Bradley McDougald tried to return his game-sealing pick rather than just go down and avoid a potential turnover. Sapp said he planned to scold McDougald for that… after he thanked him for the pick. Joe will have a story later about what Sapp told Jameis’ dad outside the Bucs locker room. It’s pretty funny and probably damned accurate, too.

* Joe can’t remember the Bucs being so joyous after a win. Sure, they were happy when they beat the Dixie Chicks to start the season and geeked when they beat the Chiefs last week. But last night? Dudes were like they just cliched a division title. Screaming and hollering and bouncing through the tunnel and into the locker room. Joe can’t remember the Bucs being so ecstatic after a win, probably because Joe cannot remember such a big home win.

* Yeah, it seems Bucs coach Dirk Koetter doesn’t like Joe calling the stadium on Dale Mabry Highway the “Den of Depression.” Well, it is. The Bucs have the worst home record in the NFL since Chucky was fired in January 2009. Joe is glad folks at One Buc Palace don’t like it. Because there is an easy way for them to get Joe to stop calling the stadium the “Den of Depression.” That would be for the Bucs to win home games. Once the Bucs win five home games in a season, then Joe will drop the moniker. That ship has sailed for this season.


Bradley McDougald: Save for his pass interference call, McDougald played his best game with the Bucs. The guy was a complete and total stud Sunday.

Alterraun Verner: His dad would be proud.

Lavonte David: Had seven tackles and the play of the game.

Mike Evans: Getting over 100 yards and hauling in two touchdowns when you were largely guarded by Richard Sherman is a helluva day.

Brent Grimes: Stuck on receivers like glue.

Noah Spence: Now leads all rookie defensive ends with 5.5 sacks.


“Six [sacks] is the most we’ve had in a long time. We were worried about that all week because Russell Wilson is a tough quarterback to sack. He did get out a few times, but we hit him, we kept him in. Noah Spence was big tonight. Gerald (McCoy) had a sack and a half. Six sacks, we hit him a bunch of times, too. That also tells you that your coverage is good on the back end because he’s having to hold the ball a little bit.’’ — Dirk Koetter.

“I always throw Mike the ball and I always talk about he’s my superstar. Ya’ll always ask me why do you throw Mike the ball so much? I never understand those questions.” — Jameis.

“That’s a great thing, hats off to this football team, hats off to this coaching staff, for everybody sticking together and playing Buc football the way we know how to play. You’ve got to tip your hat off to the Seattle Seahawks, you all know they’re a great football team and for us to go out there and put up a performance like that against a tremendous football team, it’s a great thing. But we’ve got to take this win and learn from it.” — Lavonte David.

“That’s an all right accomplishment. I’m more about team accomplishments though.” — Mike Evans on being the first receiver in NFL history to have three consecutive 1,000-yard seasons in his first three years.

“Like I said, it’s a blessing to be with these dudes on the defensive line with me. Always telling me what to do and trying to teach me different things throughout the game. It’s helping me a lot. We’ve got great dudes on the line, get sacks when all of us can’t even get them.” — Noah Spence.

“I thought that was a really good showing by Tampa Bay. They outplayed us and they beat us up front. They did a fine job of getting themselves a win. We had a chance to get back in it a number of times but they just couldn’t open up the door for us and couldn’t make it happen. We did not play like we play and it didn’t feel like it. That starts right with me. If everyone plays a little off, then that’s me. I got to do my part and they got to do their part and we got to get our game back and get a win again. It’s such an oddity to be that far off in the throwing game and have trouble fully shutting down on third down. It just spells for a bad game. Our field position was really huge. They did a great job of managing their field position and keeping us backed up, particularly when we had to get going in the second half. We were ready to mount a comeback and get back in this thing, but they put us inside the 10-yard line I think three times and made it really difficult. They were able to hold onto the field position and did a nice job of that. I’m just disappointed we came out this way and played like that. We didn’t play anywhere near like we thought we would.” — Seattle coach Pete Carroll.


College football is crazy. Joe isn’t sure how the powers that be can keep a Big Ten champion out of the playoffs, but honestly, there is no way Penn State or Wisconsin is one of the four best teams in nation. The four best? Bama, Ohio State, Clemson and Washington. … Speaking of college football, it is official: The worst team in the B1G for defensive pass completion percentage? Well, well, well it’s none other than Lovie Smith and the Illini. Last year, Illinois with a joke of a coach who was run for possible abuse of players, had the No. 3 defensive pass completion percentage. Lovie’s mark this season is worse than Rutgers; worse than Purdue; worse than Maryland. So in the past three years, Lovie’s defenses have held the worst defensive pass completion percentage in their respective league/conference. And to think some still question Team Glazer for running Lovie. Oh, please! It has taken Dirk Koetter 11 games to win six. It took Lovie 25 games to reach six wins. … Last week, Joe was so exhausted at 3 a.m. Monday morning typing from his Kansas City hotel room when he was writing “Morning After,” Joe cashed it in on “Punts.” So with apologies, here are Joe’s thoughts on the Kansas City trip: Joe, right after college, worked in the Kansas City area and covered the Royals and, once in a while, a Chiefs game for a suburban daily newspaper. Last week was Joe’s first trip back to Arrowhead Stadium since he covered a Chiefs game. A lot has changed. First, Kansas City used to be a dump. No one in their right mind wanted to go downtown. Now, my gosh, it is a destination. Before, Kansas City was basically a giant suburb. Now, it is a cool metropolitan area. Joe is impressed with Kansas City whereas before, Joe couldn’t wait to get out. And, man, the barbeque! Joe went to three places for barbeque last week. Joe was told through a friend Father Dungy said that Gates was the place to go (Father Dungy was once an assistant coach for the Chiefs when Joe last covered a Chiefs game). Let’s just say Father Dungy knows about as much about barbecue as he does offenses. If you like barbecue drowned in vinegar-based sauce where you can’t even taste the meat, well, then Gates is your kinda place. But if you like meat smoked with dry rub with maybe some sweet sauce on the side, then Joe’s Kansas City Barbecue or Jack Stack is your place. Joe ate at Jack Stack after the Bucs win and the next day at Joe’s Kansas City Barbecue, which is said to be the best barbecue joint in the nation. Let’s just say the burnt ends at Jack Stack were top shelf and on a Monday morning going to Joe’s, well, there was a line out the door to the parking lot. On a gloomy, chilly Monday morning no less! Good sign! Let’s just say having burnt ends at Jack Stack or at Joe’s and washed down with a Kansas City-brewed Boulevard Pale Ale, well, that’s living! Joe’s Kansas City Barbecue is very close to the best burnt ends Joe has ever had (Rollin’ Smoke in Las Vegas may be the best burnt ends Joe has ever had, but it is close). Anyway, a trip to Kansas City with a visit to the Negro Leagues Museum and then the National World War I Museum followed by eating burnt ends and polishing off your meal with few Boulevard Pale Ales, well, that’s a helluva day, trust Joe. In fact, Joe was so impressed with Kansas City and its barbecue and its beer, Joe is planning a weekend trip this May for a baseball/NASCAR/barbecue weekend. If you are ever looking for a place to visit that is inexpensive with cool things to do during the day and great grub at night with good local craft beer, keep Kansas City in mind. Oh, and the atmosphere at Arrowhead Stadium? About as close to a college football game as you will find at an NFL stadium (sort of like Pittsburgh, maybe better). In some ways, a football weekend in Kansas City is a bucket list item for NFL fans.

34 Responses to “The Morning After”

  1. Wright Says:

    Love your site. First time commenting on your site but I’m calling you out.

    You said if the Bucs Win their final 2 homes game the nickname goes away see below :

    “The Bucs are now 2-4 at home. Beat the Saints and Panthers, Coach, the Bucs’ two remaining home games, and the nickname goes away.”

    Join the culture change, and stick to your word!

    Go Bucs!
    Hey, there are two “Joes,” as many people know. One sees no reason to continue the nickname if the Bucs are on a four-game home winning streak to end this season, finishing 4-4 at home this season in that scenario. The other Joe has a different attitude, as written in this Morning After column. –Joe

  2. Doctor Stroud Says:

    The Bucs deserve respect for the win and will most likely rise in the useless “power rankings” of various NFL pundits. The only power ranking I care about at this point is the NFC South division standings. I’m hoping that the Bucs stay under the radar a little longer. Let’s enjoy the win and stay humble. We’re breathing down Atlanta’s neck! On to San Diego!

  3. lightningbuc Says:

    Like Sapp, McDougald weaving in and out of traffic after the pick bout gave me a heart attack.

  4. scott Says:

    Our O-line is playing lights out

  5. Harry in Costa Rica Says:

    …The Bucs should have had a timeout in their back pocket…

    Are you sure about that Joe? I thought they were out of time outs.

  6. Harry in Costa Rica Says:

    If Mike Evans does not get NFL Offensive Player of the Week, I will be shocked. What an incredible game he had against the best!

  7. Vincente Says:

    Joe KC is a great place to visit. Kauffman stadium is unbelievable and tailgating at arrowhead is a must for any football fan. My very first NFL game was the jaguars vs KC back in 2006 and even though I am a bucs fan till I die but I support KC because of the experience I had at arrowhead. I live in Texas and yes the BBQ in KC is unbelievable! Kansas City joes used to be called Oklahoma City joes till they changed the name a few years ago but yes that BBQ is near perfect, matched up with my favorite brew, Boulevard brewery tank 7, and my day is made. Anyway Congrats to my bucs on an incredible win. Most of the nation saw this and I’m starting to see people in a lot of websites and Facebook comments say things like “Tampa bay is pretty good” or even some saying “the bucs should get in the playo….ok I won’t repeat that don’t want to jinx anything. Go BUCS!

  8. Dreambig Says:

    Great artical! I think a Den of Depression compromise should be in order. The Joe’s should keep the nickname handy because constant losing at home is a primary reason for poor attendance and loss of season ticket sales. However, that was the past, and as long as the Bucs are still in contention this year, maybe the name should be put on the bench and not used until needed. 5 home game wins and it gets retired. Otherwise its counter productive to helping the team change the losing culture and besides, the Joe’s would not want to be guilty of holding on and pushing a point too far like the GMC bashers.

  9. mike n Says:

    My head is still spining.

  10. Gencoimports Says:

    Joe, Mike Evans is not the first WR to begin his career with 3 consecutive 1,000 yard seasons. He is the fourth. The others were John Jefferson, Randy Moss and AJ Green. Helluva club.

  11. Tampa Tony Says:

    I’m a proud GMC hater(which is probably the most over used term on the internet) but I’ll give it up to him for this game he and the line played great. I just hope he keeps it up.

    And let’s be real for a minute the “hate” for GMC is highly warranted. He’s a self proclaimed leader, but what has he lead this defense to? He’s a captain of a team outside of these past few the defense has been a joke. Yes, he has the accolades but fails to make those around him better as a true franchise player would. Then he disappears routinely both in his play and because of injury.

    So no Joe we don’t hate him because he’s not Sapp or Mean Joe Greene he get criticized justly for being the consistent factor of an awful defense.

  12. James Walker Says:

    I was not expecting that. This is NOT the team I saw 4 weeks ago. The return of the hurt players have come at a time when other, perhaps better teams, are too beat up to with stand the Buc’s onslaught.

  13. James Walker Says:

    Evans > Sherman

  14. Clodhopper Says:

    I agree Evans isnt as dominate as an all around receiver like Julio Jones or Antonio Brown yet but IMO as far catching skills go, there’s no one better in the league. I never thought I would say this one year ago but I swear he could catch a speeding bullet with a blindfold on!!

  15. Clodhopper Says:

    BTW. Looking good in that Hawkeye hat, Licht. Doing your best Hayden Fry impression!! The tigerhawk hat can make any toad look like a handsome prince!!

  16. Defense Rules Says:

    @Joe … “Unless Verner reworks his contract, it’s awfully hard to find a place on the bench for a guy making $6 million a year.” I thought Alterraun Verner played a great game yesterday and made his dad proud. Gut feeling Joe that he will be with the Bucs next year, and will be competing for a starting CB job. Probably will require reworking his contract though, but with incentives I’d guess.

  17. JMN Says:

    There have been valid reasons to hate on GMC for the majority of the 2016 football season. Even you have to admit this Joe, even though you do sort of have an unhealthy love affair with him. The past 2 weeks he has upped his game and if he keeps it going, there will be no more valid criticism.

  18. Love and Warrick Dunn Says:

    I wish there was an ignore button, so we could just never see the trolls and constant negative posters.

    You would think the team lost by the way a few people still complain and begrudgingly give minimal credit.

  19. Dreambig Says:

    You GMC haters are too funny. How many stats will it take? How many years of being at the top of the league in sacks for his position? How many pro bowls? You guys have created your own strange narrative that you are going to go down swinging with in spite of the reality smacking you in the face. Like it or not, he is one of the best players on the team. We should all be proud to call GMC a Buccaneer.

  20. TampaTown Says:

    @Love and Warrick Dunn:
    We’ll said!! I totally agree. It’s a great day in Tampa Bay! I couldn’t be happier or more proud. The Bucs are giving us everything we’ve been begging for so let’s enjoy. I am.

  21. Buc1987 Says:

    lightningbuc…yes sir.

    How many of us were screaming for #30 to just GO DOWN?

    I call the Seahags the luckiest team in the NFL so I was just waiting for him to fumble that ball.


  22. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    @Tampa Tony,

    First of al, you are 100% wrong to call McCoy a self-appointed leader. Last I checked, team captains are voted on by players. He’s been team captain for 3 different head coaches, so even if you think the vote may have been rigged, it would have had to have been rigged by 3 different coaches. Nobody could possibly believe that. Second, every single player (including Jameis) mentions Gerald first when it comes to who are the leaders of this team. Jameis has even said it in his last 2 post game press conferences. Third, I’m assuming you have a problem with GMC saying he is a leader. Guess what – that’s what leaders are supposed to do!!! How would you feel if he said “I’m not a leader, I’m just a regular player on this team.”? That would be idiotic.

    Blaming McCoy for all of our defensive struggles is ignorant. I’m not saying you are ignorant, but that idea is (it’s okay, I’ve had many ignorant ideas over the years). No one player can take over a defense. I don’t think you and so many others understand the duties of a 4-3 3 technique. His job isn’t to get tackles. Really, his job isn’t really to get sacks. He’s supposed to disrupt and funnel everything to other players. I’m not sure if you notice, but almost every sack we ever get are a result of the pocket collapsing. You rarely see 3 guys getting blocked and a DE creaming around the corner alone, ala Von Miller. That’s a result of pressure from up the middle. He wreaks havoc, has all year, and has for many years. As for him being injury prone, the stats just don’t back that up. He’s been one of the healthiest DT’s in the league. Those guys aren’t playing patty cake in there, but he toughs it out week after week. And yet some people still claim he only plays for a check.

    I guess the thing that bothers me the most is people refuse to just admit when they are wrong. There’s always got to be a “but” in there, or they just disappear. Funny tmaxcon isn’t around?!?! This guy has been crying about how McCoy never makes a big play, even though he totally disregards the plays he has. Then McCoy makes a HUGE play, and this pansy is MIA. What a loser. I’d rather be wrong a million times over if it means success for the team.

  23. Bucsfanman Says:

    Great win! Great TEAM win! It takes 11!!!

  24. BuccoDav Says:

    You are right about the BBQ and Boulevard! I’ve been gong to KC for years for work and look forward to Jack Stack and Joe’s KC (formerly Oklahoma Joe’s, the original in the old gas station is still the best).
    Leaving for KC in the morning and will be enjoying some of that goodness for the next couple of days…

  25. celly Says:

    My only thought is that maybe McDoguald was looking at the clock trying to run down some time to ensure that we would be able to kneel on it to run the game out.

    I feel like i noticed him frequently looking up at the clock as he was running.

  26. Issic Haggins Says:

    What an Awesome game Yesterday. Congrats to all the players !!!! Now stop the GMC crap lets just enjoy the win !!!!!! But if we are going to be ignorant I will explain !! GMC One week 0 tackles, this week 5 tackles and 1.5 sacks and he was in the game Late AND he made a play , which are both a little rare for this guy. Thanks for showing some fight, Great Game GMC !!!The hate is for his waste of talent,Lack of fight , the weak mental make up and yes he was in a boot after the game !! It doesn’t stop with this guy, yes Gerald we now know you played injured . I believe GMC could have a few 6 tackle games a year with a couple of those being tfls and a sack or two, the guy is that dam good , HE just doesn’t believe it.His mouth does but his sole doesn’t !! I honestly think he could avg two tfl a game if he would quit the look pretty crap and actually go to the ball carrier ,but he’s an actor in action on and off the field. Fans expect the top paid star on the team to perform at 110 percent and to be physically and mentally super tough !! This is NOT what many many many of the fans see , this is why and may continue to be why GMC gets the hate!!!! He can stop the hate when he stops the acting , Ayers, Winston,Hawley,Kwon,Spence,Panphile,Marpet ………… They aren’t actors !! ………… none are as talented as GMC is at his position and that’s saying allot , however game in and game out they are All Better than GMC…………Stop it with the why he gets a raw deal crap as it’s self imposed and well deserved !!!!! If he wants to lower his salary to 2 mil a year and be dominant one game, hurt a game , non factor a game , a non leader, a non captain and have avg effort well that may stop the hate also !!

  27. Joe Says:


    If you know of a way to bring back some Boulevard Pale Ale, you can make some money off of Joe. Can’t get it around these parts. 🙁

  28. Bradinator Says:

    Still pinching myself this morning! That was sweet! One question though. Where did Ryan Russell come from? Saw him early on at DE and I had no clue who he was. Came through with 1.5 sacks right? Just don’t remember seeing the guy on the field or the roster and keep pretty close track.

  29. Buccfan37 Says:

    Penn St. is a big football team, a good one at that. I think they are right at the level of Ohio St. And Michigan.

  30. KY Buc Fan Says:

    Tampa Tony and other haters can we please give it a rest already! How the hell we supposed to change the culture if the fans won’t even give credit to the team for a good win! This is a TEAM sport, there isn’t 1 player on the roster that can beat a mighty mites team by himself! But you see what we can do as a “TEAM”!!!

  31. TampaTown Says:

    @ KY Buc Fan:
    Thank you! Haters, your time is up. It’s a new day in Tampa Bay!

  32. buc15 Says:

    Well said KY Buc Fan.

  33. unbelievable Says:

    Gotta give some major props to VH3 as well. He played solid, and he had a huge impact on the LVD fumble recovery. If he doesn’t hit Graham and up end him, that ball doesn’t get knocked out.

  34. salish_seamonster Says:

    Maybe Joe could just stop calling it the “Den of Depression” out of respect for the players, coaches, organization, and fans. Or just continue being a d!ck. Either way.