A Backhanded Call For Mike Glennon
September 8th, 2014
A former Buccaneer says he’s ready for Mike Glennon if Josh McCown continues to play like he did yesterday
Yes, Joe realizes a Bucs victory next Sunday against St. Louis will bring a calm over the Tampa Bay area. Man, Joe doesn’t want to think about the alternative — followed by quick-turnaround, Thursday night game in Altanta.
Bucs fans need that calm, because it’s crazy out here in the real world of Bucs fandom. There’s mass rage and crazy talk.
The “19-and-9” crowd and their No. 8 jerseys are finding all kinds of new friends.
Noted Mike Glennon critic and former Bucs guard Ian Beckles had a welcoming tone for the Mike Glennon Mob on the WDAE-AM 620 airwaves this morning.
“I was watching the right guard and the right tackle get beat on a simple tackle-end stunt, where the offensive tackle tried to overlap, and I’m like, ‘That’s Dotson. That’s supposed to be a our best guy.’ And I’m just thinking, ‘Where are these guys learning this stuff?’ “That defensive front got after us yesterday. It was McCown doing stupid stuff, but it doesn’t matter who was in there, they weren’t going to be successful,” Beckles said.
“And listen, I know [McCown] is getting on in age, ok, and if this organization keeps on saying that Mike Glennon is the future. You know what, I am not a Mike Glennon fan, but how many times do we have to watch that?”
Beckles was horrified by McCown’s decision making and senseless dangerous, flailing passes that led to interceptions and held breath.
“Even if he completes it, the coaches will say, ‘Don’t do that because you’re going to throw picks.’Awful. Awful. Awful. Awful,” Beckles said.
As Joe’s written earlier, McCown’s bad decisions were mind-numbing and junior-varsity bad. Joe’s going to breathe easy and lay off the booze today, and pop in a tape of McCown in Chicago last season to calm down.
September 8th, 2014 at 9:51 am
It’s not a Mike Glennon Mob anymore. It’s a crowd of all the people absolutely baffled that McCown somehow found his way on the field.
MGM, anti-Glennon, all of us are wondering what the hell happened yesterday.
If it keeps up, there won’t be a MGM. There will be a swarm of people headed to the exit. I hope this is a one game aberration. But McCown is 35 years old. This is who he is. That’s scary.
September 8th, 2014 at 9:57 am
At the mention of Ian Beckles, I stopped reading. Sorry.
FYI, not all of us want a QB switch yet. I want to see how things are addressed for the next game.
I know the MGM is happy right now, but I’m not convinced this was not first game rust.
September 8th, 2014 at 9:57 am
Making a switch should not be done on the spur of the moment. There is no going back. Make sure Josh cannot fix the issues before doing it.
September 8th, 2014 at 9:58 am
I have not seen an offensive jaugernaut like this display since john McKay first introduced it on us in the 70’s!!!! ha ha ha what a joke if youre not laughing its ok because the panthers sure were yucking it up on the sidelines in our house!!!!
September 8th, 2014 at 10:01 am
After all the hype and excitement during off season to see that crap on the field. If someone could pass a note to Tedford, tell him we would like to see the other 80% of the offense anytime now.
September 8th, 2014 at 10:04 am
Screw it if it happens again against the Falcons on that Thursday night game throw in Glennon(gives him 10 days) let this organization see what they think they MIGHT have in Glennon and maybe that’ll convince them to get their heads out of their asses and go get a QB EARLY in the draft next year
September 8th, 2014 at 10:06 am
The writting was on the wall for this. Never wanted McCown. He’s horrible.
September 8th, 2014 at 10:07 am
Bonzai… to make the statement that the MGM is happy is twisted wishful thinking. The Glennon fans want to see wins, that’s it. Whoever the QB may be.
September 8th, 2014 at 10:09 am
@bonzai
“Successful people make their decisions quickly and change their minds slowly. Failures make their decisions slowly and change their minds quickly.”
September 8th, 2014 at 10:10 am
i friggin told yall….
September 8th, 2014 at 10:12 am
Buccaneer Bonzai says:
“I know the MGM is happy right now, but I’m not convinced this was not first game rust.”
You’ve got to be off your rocker! The MGM is a faction of Buc fans, not backup QB fans.
This year, or last, so far a starting QB named “Josh” has shat the bed.
We want Buccaneer wins, playoffs, etc.
May the best QB win, I just happen to think it is Glennon.
September 8th, 2014 at 10:13 am
Good news bad news
Good news-Lovies mistakes can be corrected.
Bad news- It will take some time.
as in Chicago, Lovie never figured out the same thing.
Being a defensive coach, he is used to rotating players in and out, which works for defense.
The offense line on every team plays the the same 5 people all game as a unit barring injury.
Any offense line on any team that makes a substitute knows that means possible trouble yet Lovie thinks he can play different players every week in multiple positions on the offense line as he does on the defense.
Sorry-Not going to work.
Time to rethink the offense line coaching from the top
September 8th, 2014 at 10:14 am
If the O- line doesn’t block, won’t matter who the QB is. No time to pass and NO holes to run through. Hopefully next week will be better , cause yesterday Sucked !
September 8th, 2014 at 10:18 am
McCown was bad, but I believe things will get better this week. We went against a top 5 defense and it showed. Our O-Line looked terrible and our D-Line looked even worse. Lovie needs to figure something out for the Defense. Otherwise, all teams have to do is contain GMC and it will be easy walking from there.
September 8th, 2014 at 10:18 am
Glennon is josh mccown 13 years ago and I think he’s garbage to but I’d rather deal with his inadequacies than deal work mccown pathetic decision making. You can’t be a great leader but be that weak mentally, we were getting slaughtered and his thought of getting back in the game is throw balls up for grave while under pressure? How could you be in your 13th season and it not make sense to simply throw the ball away when nothing is there, force into tight coverage when you suck if just not smart
September 8th, 2014 at 10:19 am
OMG the world IS coming to an end! I find myself agreeing with Beckles! I too noticed that abortion called line play that the the ‘Great’ Dotson put on tape. My thinking is a combination of Joe Montana, Steve Young and John Elway would have looked awful yesterday behind that display. Not to excuse McCown’s Pee Wee QB antics because that was awful too. After 12 hours to decompress, I find I have already made it through the stages of grief and have settled into acceptance! Wake me if this team EVER sniffs the playoffs.
September 8th, 2014 at 10:20 am
That’s why McCown signed for borderline starting QB money when he signed here. He is a borderline starter. Which logically makes him also a borderline backup. But if this game is any indication: Rich Gannon he is not.
September 8th, 2014 at 10:21 am
The season is over!
September 8th, 2014 at 10:33 am
The reason why the mike Glennon mob is happy is because if we are going to lose the game anyways we want the QB to look so bad that they have to put glennon in.
what would have happened if we actually found a way to win that game or came really close.
we would all be talking about McCown or lack of Telford.
We need glennon now.
September 8th, 2014 at 10:45 am
If you’re part of the MGM (god knows why), the last thing you should want is for Glennon to go in right now. It’s just going to make things worse.
Let this play out with McCown, if you love Glennon. If they pull McCown too soon you think this line is going to give Glennon a chance to succeed? Think he’s going to get the run support he desperately needed but didn’t get last year. No, he won’t.
All the things that worked against Glennon last year are still on the field right now. He is absolutely going to get killed – again.
September 8th, 2014 at 10:56 am
When I heard the Mike Glennon Mob this weekend I was ready to smack some Buc fans … Jesus its the first game with so many new players and no offensive coordinator!!! Our starting left guard goes out of the game and so does our starting TE… We had some holes and we are playing one of the top defenses.. on the defense side, Derrick Brookes and Sapp said it takes some time to get this defense perfected so fans need to be patient and grow on the positives we saw in the 4th Quarter.
September 8th, 2014 at 11:19 am
I did not want the Bucs to draft JOE Crush Johnny Football for that exact reason I thought that is the BS he would pull I was absolutely shocked that McCown threw those two bad picks and I got news for you his stats only improved when the Panthers went to a prevent defense so I am not optimistic about the two fourth quarter TD’s as some other people .
September 8th, 2014 at 11:20 am
It’s almost like Josh McCown was terrible for the majority of his career and this should have been forseeable, or something.
Oh wait — I forgot. When you pointed out to people that the vast majority of McCown’s career was awful, you got labeled as Glennonite or MGM member.
September 8th, 2014 at 11:30 am
One more game one more chance . He needs to do a much better job. But lets not forget that our defense stunk up the place against a backup and our run game was 1 yard per carry.
September 8th, 2014 at 11:34 am
@ #41
Exactly! Homers came out to say McCown was going to be the next Rich Gannon based on 5 games against some sh!tty secondaries last year. Then again I guess I am part of the JBF dubbed ‘Glennon Mob’ since I’ve said since last year after the Jets game that I thought he was the best QB the Bucs had. Based on yesterday it is looking like that is still the case
September 8th, 2014 at 11:40 am
If only we had taken Johnny at 7 in last years draft……I’m still getting over it. Might as well throw Glennon in is he is the “QB of the future”
September 8th, 2014 at 11:42 am
Im sick of excuses. All we heard all off season is how Lovie is going to bring us back to the promise land. All I saw was more of the same old same old crap. Maybe even worse than the last couple years. Quit making excuses for your players coach and start holding them accountable.
That being said I dont see how we can be any different next week when they had more than 2 months to prepare and look this bad.
Looks like another season of me rooting for a looser.GO BUCS
September 8th, 2014 at 11:49 am
#41,
You forgot those 5 games last year when johnny unit…er, i mean McCown, led the Bears, that all the McCown jock sniffers love to reference. The other 11.5 years aren’t relevant, just those 5 games.
September 8th, 2014 at 11:55 am
The Statue- behind that line- has no future
Anyone who watched preseason games, and is clamoring for Glennon, must really love horrible football.
Because Glennon was atrocious this preseason.
McCown was nervous yesterday, and made a couple bone headed plays. Nerves happen- Tom Brady yesterday proved that.
McCown will bounce back. He showed he can throw on the run, and is moble.
That can win us a few games.
Beaker, throwing 5 yard dump of passes, and getting flattened every other play?
Hell- I saw a season of that last year- ole noodle arm throwing up lame ducks- while masterfully guiding us to the last place offense in the league! With NFL record for shortest completion average!!
Yeah, no thanks. We at least had a chance to win at the end of the game- against the Division Champs.
Beaker is no chance
September 8th, 2014 at 12:06 pm
I said earlier in the year that I liked the leadership qualities of McCown but wasn’t sold on his ability to perform after watching games he played in Chicago where his receivers made him look much better than he was. After witnessing yesterdays debacle I now question his leadership abilities. That pathetic performance was just absolutely inexcusable. Honestly, the decisions that McCown made were shocking. I can’t think of another QB in the NFL who would make that many bone headed decisions in one game. They weren’t just bad…they were HORRIFIC!!! I would have him on an incredibly short leash and at the first sign of a similar performance get Glennon in there so we know what we have in Mike.
September 8th, 2014 at 12:13 pm
Capt Tim……no one is buying that nerves crap. This guy isn’t a rookie. Even rookies don’t make that many stupid decisions in one game. Sorry dude, I think Glennon would have won that game for us because he’s smarter and makes better decisions. I’m not saying he’s our answer at QB but I am absolutely sure he would have done better than McCown. There is NO EXCUSE for a veteran QB to put up film like that. Pathetic.
September 8th, 2014 at 12:26 pm
Just think we’ll be first in line next draft for Marcus Mariota
September 8th, 2014 at 12:44 pm
Did anyone besides Lovie really think it was a good idea to bring McCown in to be our quarterback?
September 8th, 2014 at 12:52 pm
I thought we could and win this game, but I’m not all that upset. Carolina simply wanted it more and their defensive and offensive line outperformed ours. We got tricked into preparing mainly for Cam, but that’s not why we lost. In the NFL games come down to three or four plays that are decisive. If our eight million dollar safety intercepts that ball, we’re talking about a great comeback and though not ecstatic, we’re singing a different tune. I understand how difficult it’s been to be a Buccaneers fan these last ten years. But I think Lovie will fix this in time. As for McCown, he had no time. When he has time and can go through his progressions, he’s very accurate and makes good decisions. Every team is going to come after him. I’m not going to judge him until he plays eight games. This one sucked, but he did show a lot of heart (and some degree of stupidity). But hey, why isn’t anybody mad at the fumble that lost the game, because I had no doubt the Buccaneers were going to at least tie the game given how they had grabbed momentum.
September 8th, 2014 at 12:57 pm
Honestly, I’m not sold on either QB we have. I truly believe next years starter isn’t on the team, at least I hope so. But that is our biggest weakness, QB, then Oline. Hopefully they can get it turned around. I believe they will. But obviously McCown needs to man up. He knows pressure is coming so don’t hold the ball so long. Geez…that was hard to watch yesterday. I hope we draft Mariota.
September 8th, 2014 at 1:07 pm
That was the best front seven in football, and it went against this team’s biggest weakness. Carolina is an awful matchup for this team.
There were no rush lanes and not much time to throw – it wouldn’t mattered who the quarterback was yesterday.
Both of these quarterbacks are career backups.
September 8th, 2014 at 1:20 pm
Need I remind you folks, Lovie was out of football last year.
September 8th, 2014 at 1:24 pm
Im with the TBBM which is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Mob .. i just want what is best for the team …and McCown is not best for the team .. Maybe Glennon is not either but get him in their and see and if not than draft a QB …
September 8th, 2014 at 1:44 pm
I felt like McCown’s success at Chicago wasn’t based on anything solid. Right place, right time. Truth is he went against lousy defenses and he ended up 3-2 in that run.
September 8th, 2014 at 1:50 pm
One more week for McCown is sufficient. Another disaster and he sits. But we need to know what Glennon is because in case you didn’t watch the game yesterday, this team is not a QB away from anything except 3rd place in the division. Lots of holes on this team still (OLine, no pass rush, weak secondary), and drafting a QB solves none of them.
September 8th, 2014 at 1:57 pm
“Need I remind you folks, Lovie was out of football last year.”
After seeing his coaching debut I don’t think any of us need reminding. Too many more piss poor performances like that and he could end up sitting out next year too. That was a team that looked unprepared for the regular season
September 8th, 2014 at 2:04 pm
Still mad about the game I just want this team to win so bad but it look like it’s not gunns happen ever again
September 8th, 2014 at 2:06 pm
“When he has time and can go through his progressions, he’s very accurate and makes good decisions.”
You could say the same thing about 31 other starting QB’s in the NFL. Yes McCown had pressure, but he had some opportunities too. He was who many of us thought he was. Hopefully the collective bunch get their heads out of their asses fast because they face another team with a strong D front next week that is probably pretty fired up about the way the Vikings thrashed them.
September 8th, 2014 at 2:07 pm
You all need to get off this “We should have draft JM”. No we shouldn’t have. He is a backup as well. So you are saying we should have drafted a backup QB? He isn’t good enough to start in Cleveland. Idiots out there.
September 8th, 2014 at 2:22 pm
“we want to be a running team’. When your o-line stinks, perhaps he may want to set up the run with the passing game. Anyone watch Payton last night? He is mostly always in the shot gun. When the Bucs are under center, it is a running play about 90% of the time. Not to hard to stop their running game!
September 8th, 2014 at 2:24 pm
This is exactly how I feel about it:
September 8th, 2014 at 3:35 pm
Please trade for Ponder and pick up Tyrelle Pryor for free. Get rid of McQuarterback and let Glennon sink or swim. Oh yeah bring back Eric Page.
September 8th, 2014 at 5:41 pm
Lets face it we seen this team..they suck with this qb.. maybe we can get to 8 wins… why though we need to throw gleenon in there see what he can do.. then draft mariota or winston.. then we have a game changer!
September 8th, 2014 at 6:50 pm
Better stock the buffet with crab legs.