Chucky Talks Bucs
May 16th, 2016
Chucky takes a break from hanging with Hooters Calendar girls to talk Bucs.
Who better to talk Bucs than the only man who guided the team to a Super Bowl victory. That would be Chucky!
In an interview with good guy Chris Fischer of WTSP-TV, Channel 10, at Dick Vitale’s gala Friday night, Chucky seems to be a big fan of Bucs coach Dirk Koetter, likes defensive coordinator Mike Smith, talks about the Bucs’ shot at a playoff berth, and all but demands fans pack the seats of the Den of Depression.
Chucky also gripes about the lousy win-loss record at the Den of Depression in recent years, which is how the crib got its moniker.
Joe especially likes how Chucky refers to the Bucs as “we.” Chucky still has juice.
Enjoy!
May 16th, 2016 at 7:56 am
Best Buccaneer Coach of All-Time; Bar None.
Thanks for the Championship Coach!!!
May 16th, 2016 at 7:59 am
We’ve been one the worst first-half team in the league – for awhile now.
May 16th, 2016 at 8:04 am
Agree Joe……love the “we” from Jon Gruden……he’s made Tampa his home and the Bucs are his team…..that’s great.
May 16th, 2016 at 8:15 am
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May 16th, 2016 at 8:47 am
I love love love Gruden, but by the time his tenure was up here, his offense had become soooo predictable that we had to change things up.
Still the best coach in Bucs history hands down.
I think Koetter will end up taking that crown from Grudini, but we’ll see…
May 16th, 2016 at 8:49 am
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May 16th, 2016 at 8:52 am
Tell it Dallas, Tell it! Why the Glazers let the lap dog effect what was possibly the worst move in Bucs history, is still a mystery.
May 16th, 2016 at 8:54 am
Dallasbuc is right on!!! No surprise there though!! Even when the radio station cut his salary in half they could not get rid of him!! nothing like constantly trying to turn the fans against all of the greatest coaches in Tampa!!!
May 16th, 2016 at 8:59 am
Don’t forget, there were some players who were feeding him.
May 16th, 2016 at 9:00 am
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May 16th, 2016 at 9:10 am
0 playoff wins in 5 or 6 seasons following the Super Bowl.
May 16th, 2016 at 9:16 am
Chucky ran Rick McKay off and had them bring in his boy Bruce from Oakland there’s no way he didn’t have a huge influence on all those years of failed draft picks. Package deal, 1 fired they both go.
May 16th, 2016 at 9:20 am
The Fact is that Gruden could Coach a winning team but he couldn’t build one.
May 16th, 2016 at 9:23 am
@waterboy
What was Big pay day Mckay bring to the table the last couple of years, bad contracts, bad drafts, and almost signing Marvin Lewis who the owners had to override and find a Superbowl coach themselves!!! The truth is big pay day McKay ( as the players called him) was on the outs even before Gruden was interviewed!!!!!!
May 16th, 2016 at 9:25 am
Waterboy- the Glazers botched the decision. Gruden was fired and didn’t quit as part of a package deal with failure Bruce Allen. If they wanted to keep Gruden and get a new GM they could have. They own the damn team and Gruden was under a spanking brand new contract that they paid out every cent on for the remaining four years. They screwed it up and they know it. Just like they allowed Dominik to screw up the unceremonious firing of Derrick Brooks. Can’t believe they let that sht happen.
May 16th, 2016 at 9:38 am
“The Fact is that Gruden could Coach a winning team but he couldn’t build one”
BUCS BEAT THE RAIDERS 48-21
Bruh, U must’ve had too much Indica this weekend.
So I’ll give U a pass#sativatime
May 16th, 2016 at 9:44 am
IF Gruden could build a winning team then we would have won a playoff game after the SB. How many did he win while he was in control of building the team?
May 16th, 2016 at 9:48 am
@Dallas Bucs
Looking back at Gruden compared to the last couple coaches makes him look like a hall of fame coach but truth is the NFC south wasn’t that great of a division the first couple of years after pulling the Bucs out of the NFC central to help form the NFC south so he was able to pull off some division wins but was always 1 and done when facing the better teams in the playoffs. Gruden was always a guy that I felt had the potential to be a great coach but he was a lot like Chip Kelley in that he allowed his ego to get in the way.
May 16th, 2016 at 9:56 am
The Fact that we even made the playoffs – with Chris Simms at quarterbacks
says enough for me. He did a great job with what he had.
Can’t Knock the Hustle
May 16th, 2016 at 9:57 am
Waterboy- Gruden had crap to work with most of time because he and that failure Bruce Allen could not acquire quality talent through the draft or free agency. As bad as incompetent Lovie Smith in the talent evaluation department.
Gruden needed a quality GM and in all likelihood admit this was his downfall in retrospect. But that is really on the owners. It was their responsibility to get competent leadership in the front office side of the house and they failed.
May 16th, 2016 at 10:01 am
Gruden was a great OC with the ads and Os. Not a great coach, not a great teacher. He could not develop his own talent, but he made good use of veterans from other programs. Entertaining to listen to, but every player is great to him. I suspect Koetter is the better coach simply because he leads as opposed to driving the team, and players can believe what he says. They couldn’t trust Gruden. No team can win with leadership like that. The players like and respect Koetter. The best is yet to come for our Bucs IMO.
May 16th, 2016 at 10:03 am
The Trade that Changed Our Franchise Forever
For Gruden aka Da Coach
• 1st round/21st overall, 2002
• 2nd round/53rd overall, 2002
• 1st round/32nd overall, 2003
• 2nd round/33rd overall, 2004
Even though I would make that trade a Billion times over – for a Championship.
The cost? A roster depleted young talent – because of the lose of premium picks.
May 16th, 2016 at 10:04 am
A roster depleted *of young talent – because of the lose of premium picks.
May 16th, 2016 at 10:07 am
Chris Simms had a cannon arm and was a guy that I never felt Gruden used correctly. Simms wasn’t a 3 step drop dink and dunk QB he was more of a vertical passer and better suited to run a traditional pro styled offense instead of Gruden’s west coast offense. I wanted to see how Simms would perform after getting away from Gruden but he never was the same after rupturing his spleen in that one game.
May 16th, 2016 at 10:10 am
Koetter’s offensive system and playcalling is way better than Gruden’s predictable west coast system.
Gruden’s offensive basically =’s Lovie’s defensive system.
They are both ineffective dinosaur schemes. And both needed to go. (As much as I love Gruden, it’s true)
May 16th, 2016 at 10:11 am
@DallasBuc
He hand picked Bruce Allen as the GM so I’m sure he controlled those draft picks.
May 16th, 2016 at 10:12 am
Chris Simms was a 3rd draft pick. He was a project – No were close to an elite prospect coming out of Texas.
May 16th, 2016 at 10:16 am
@luvmyBucs
do not forget the 2 first round picks for Meshawn and 2 first rounders for Kenyatta Walker!!!! Add that and owners that wanted to save money instead of wanting to do whatever it takes to be successful and we see why the Bucs have gone from the Mountain Top to the Basement!!!!
May 16th, 2016 at 10:17 am
“Gruden’s offensive basically =’s Lovie’s defensive system.”
Unlike the Tampa 2 – which was only utilized by two teams in the entire league last year – Tampa & Dallas
How many teams in league currently utilize the West Coast offensive Scheme?
How many Super Bowls have been won using West Coast offensive Scheme?
May 16th, 2016 at 10:18 am
The Buc Realist
Yeah lets not forget about the trade UP for Kenyatta Walker..lol
May 16th, 2016 at 10:22 am
@waterboy…I agree….people praise gruden and say he was the best bucs hands down but the guy was 57-55 as a bucs head coach….GO BUCS!!!
May 16th, 2016 at 10:26 am
Here’s a list of just a few teams – that are currently using the Out Dated
West Coast /Red River Offensive Scheme
Offensive Scheme : West Coast
• Cincinnati Bengals
• Denver Broncos
• Green Bay Packers
• Indianapolis Colts
• Kansas City Chiefs
• Seattle Seahawks
May 16th, 2016 at 10:29 am
Now that I’ve paid my daily homage to the Best Buccaneer Coach of All-Time.
Peace My Brothas
May 16th, 2016 at 10:32 am
@LUV- People just seem to scoff whenever I bring up the cost to get Gruden. For 2 seasons we had no incoming young talent. I wouldn’t change it. It brought a Lombardi to Tampa Bay.
Did we really trade UP for Walker?! I forgot about that. Greatest right turnstile in Bucs history, aka Julius Pepper’s bi#@!!
May 16th, 2016 at 10:35 am
Ok, maybe it was Gruden’s playcalling that was too predictable more than the west coast system being ineffective.
It’s weird, but sometimes when people get to such a Master level at something, it becomes very easy to predict their next move bcuz you know how they process information and their tendencies.
Koetter is more of a adaptable playcaller and therefore it’s harder to predict what’s happening next.
May 16th, 2016 at 10:38 am
Bucsfanman
The very sad thing is that Raiders fans – treat Gruden Like God.
He could do no wrong in their eyes.
Yeah we traded up Kenyatta#smh
May 16th, 2016 at 10:39 am
Yeah we traded up *for Kenyatta#smh
May 16th, 2016 at 10:42 am
Gruden lied to his players. You can’t build a winning tradition if the players don’t trust or respect you.
May 16th, 2016 at 10:49 am
1sparkybuc
So What a coach change his mind of the Fly?
U can’t really expect start – if you a terrible week of practice.
Can U?
May 16th, 2016 at 10:55 am
@LUV- I will never understand it. It’s like he ran over people’s pets or something. Mention him and it devolves into the “he won with…” conversation. People just can’t seem to give him the credit he DESERVES and are quick to dismiss all of his achievements. As Buc fans no less! Mention another HC (Dungy) and angelic trumpeteers with halos caress our ears with heavenly tunes!
Before you type your comebacks, I love both coaches.
May 16th, 2016 at 10:57 am
@1spakybuc
so did lovie!!! Just ask Dotson!!!
May 16th, 2016 at 11:00 am
I have mixed feelings about Chucky. Great coach…thanks for the title…but as a talent evaluator I’m not so sure.
But we’ll never know. One thing that is germane to any debate about Chucky and especially about the talent he brought here has to begin with the loss of the TOP TWO DRAFT PICKS FOR TWO YEARS IN A ROW
I think we’ve just now put that behind us talent wise. Yeah some bad drafts didn’t help but imagine how it would have felt going into last year’s draft with no #1 and no #2 and then doing it again this year. That was a yyyuuuggge part of Chucky’s legacy…losing those top four draft picks really hurt him later on.
May 16th, 2016 at 11:24 am
Most Intelligent Bucs fans know that any attempts Gruden made to ‘build’ a team (from 2003-2008) were SEVERELY handicapped by the well known FACT that the Glazers were fully invested in “ManU mode” at that time. i.e. the Bucs had THE LOWEST player and coaching payroll in the ENTIRE LEAGUE from 2003-2008, yet Gruden somehow, single-handedly kept the team competative. As a reward he was demonized by the drive-time wanna-be Philadelphia gangster and the less intelligent fans.
May 16th, 2016 at 11:31 am
@Howard Cosell
You mean like the time that Joey Galloway had a broken foot and could not turn at all, yet keep getting fans angry that it was the Coach that could not get Galloway and Antonio Bryant on the field together!!!!
May 16th, 2016 at 11:38 am
We Need Chucky Back ASAP
May 16th, 2016 at 11:50 am
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May 16th, 2016 at 12:09 pm
Howard – a correction – the Buccaneers had the lowest payroll in the entire NFL for 8 STRAIGHT YEARS from 2004>2011. This majorly handicapped both Gruden and Raheem Morris. Why this was not constantly screamed about by any or all local media in hopes of effecting change I will never understand – but Buccaneers fans should never forget this travesty that the Glazers imposed on the Tampa Bay area, their coaches, players and the entire Bucs organization.
May 16th, 2016 at 1:31 pm
I agree with most of the relevant comments above. I love gruden and his fire. I loved that he challenged that defense in training camp to get all of those defensive TD’s.
As far as talent brought in I blame both gruden and Allen. They are to blame equally. Losing all of those picks and not having the ownership committed to the Bucs hurt us in a bad way.
Thank god the Glazers seem to have decided to invest back into the Bucs. They are certainly willing to it seems.
May 16th, 2016 at 4:06 pm
Please take a look at the 2008 Bucs starting lineup. How did that team even get to 9-3? Defensive starters and contributors such as –
Gaines Adams?
Jovan Haye?
Stylez White?
Quincy Black?
Barrett Rudd?
Geno Hayes?
Sabby Piscitelli ?!?!?!?!?!?
It could be worse, we could be Raiders fans. They got the draft picks, lost that Super Bowl and haven’t had a winning record since.
May 16th, 2016 at 4:32 pm
@Bucs4821
and what let that team down, When Monte Kiffen had to leave during the week for recruiting and other duties for Tennessee!!! Rah ran the defense during the week. Monte would fly out on Mondays ( I know cause I had to travel a lot back then for work) and he would fly back on fri-sat!!!!!!
May 16th, 2016 at 4:35 pm
A lot of the reason for the low payrolls from 2004-2011 was because of the draft picks that were traded for Chucky. Also bad drafting by Chucky & Allen, perpetuated by Dominik, played a role.
When your drafted players don’t develop into stars worthy of big contracts, your payroll doesn’t expand like it should. The Bucs tried to attract unrestricted free agents, but were largely unsuccessful because many UFA’s try to find the best intersection of compensation and chances of winning.
The drafting problems may play a 2/5 role in the entire payroll problem. The Glazers undoubtedly channeled a lot of the cash flow to pay for the hostile takeover of Manchester United and they kept a lot of it for themselves too.
Now that the Man U debt has been restructured and each of the Glazer children are individually wealthy, they have apparently decided to dance with the Buccaneer faithful again.
They already lost my sports entertainment dollars to the Lightning, but I’m sure other fans will flock back to RJS when they start winning again.
May 16th, 2016 at 6:55 pm
UVMYBUCS Says:
May 16th, 2016 at 10:17 am
“Gruden’s offensive basically =’s Lovie’s defensive system.”
Unlike the Tampa 2 – which was only utilized by two teams in the entire league last year – Tampa & Dallas
How many teams in league currently utilize the West Coast offensive Scheme?
How many Super Bowls have been won using West Coast offensive Scheme?
————–
Not exactly. The Seahawks, Panthers, Falcons, and Jaguars all ran their versions of the T-2.
May 16th, 2016 at 7:31 pm
Wide 9
Philadelphia Eagles |Doug Pederson| Jim Schwartz | 4-3 (Wide 9)
Multiple Front Defenses
Miami Dolphins | Joe Philbin | Kevin Coyle | 4-3 (Some Multiple Front)
Carolina Panthers | Ron Rivera | Sean McDermott |4-3 (Some Multiple Front
St. Louis Rams | Jeff Fisher | Gregg Williams | 4-3 (Some Multiple Front)
Base 4-3 under/over defenses
Cincinnati Bengals | Marvin Lewis | Paul Guenther | 4-3
Detroit Lions | Jim Caldwell | Teryl Austin | 4-3
Minnesota Vikings | Mike Zimmer | George Edwards | 4-3
Atlanta Falcons | Dan Quinn | Richard Smith | 4-3
Jacksonville Jaguars | Gus Bradley | Bob Babich | 4-3
Oakland Raiders | Jack Del Rio | Ken Norton Jr. | 4-3
New York Giants |Tom Coughlin | Steve Spagnuolo | 4-3
Seattle Seahawks | Pete Carroll | Kris Richard | 4-3
Tampa 2
Dallas Cowboys | Jason Garrett | Rod Marinelli | 4-3 (Tampa-2)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers | Lovie Smith | Leslie Frazier | 4-3 (Tampa-2)
May 17th, 2016 at 8:37 am
You can say what you want about chucky but when you don’t have a 1st or a 2nd round pick for two years in a row, how are you suppose to build a winning team?? That demoralized the team big time and set them back obviously. He did what he could with what he had to work with. I think it would of been a different story had he had 2 more 1st rnd talents and two more 2nd rnd starters as well. And who knows then maybe he would of had a chance to draft a franchise QB. Something g he never had in Tampa. Besides Brad the best QB he had was Chris Simms for Christ sakes and still made it to the playoffs with him as a rookie. In the end not being able to develop enough young talent is what got him snake bit. And that’s hard to do when u don’t have a 1st or 2nd rnd pick two years in a row.
May 17th, 2016 at 8:42 am
@Brandon
Grudens offense=lovie’s defense
Gruden was one of the greatest offensive minds in the game and that’s why he was brought to Tampa. To compare his offense to lovie’s defense is just idiotic.