
"Jimminy Christmas, you're going to put Don Coryell in the Pro Football Hall of Fame before Barry Switzer?"
Of course Joe is human, despite what some believe. He is not the great Satan as some would suggest.
So when Joe heard of former NFL coach Don Coryell passing away, Joe was somewhat saddened. Joe was in grade school, and later high school, when Coryell coached the old St. Louis Cardinals to two division titles before his pass-happy, outscore-the-opponent style of play flamed out in five years without winning a playoff game.
He later went on to San Diego where he passed even more and had only slightly better success with the same concept: who cares how much the other team scores, we’ll outscore them.
Coryell retired without getting his heralded teams to a Super Bowl. They were fun to watch but his style of football was once again reinforced by the football gods that a team has to occasionally play defense to win in the postseason.
So when Joe read in recent days from reasoned, seasoned football writers, two in particular Joe has a world of respect and admiration for, Howard Balzer and Peter King, advocate that Coryell should be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Wha… what???
Joe nearly threw up when he read this. By what standards should a man who had marginal success as an NFL coach who never reached a Super Bowl be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame???
Joe got into a testy back-and-forth on Twitter with Balzer — who Joe was unaware followed him on Twitter — about the Coryell subject. Joe is rather humbled that Balzer follows Joe, in all seriousness.
Balzer told Joe that Coryell belongs because he was an innovator whose teachings are still being practices today. Joe countered that if that is the criteria, then so should Red Hickey and Bum Phillips.
In Joe’s eyes, innovation does not equate elite.
Red Hickey, coaching the 49ers in the 1950s. He is largely credited with developing the shotgun, which is still used by virtually every team today. Joe has yet to hear any sober person make the case for Red Hickey to be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Depending on what book you read, Bum Phillips, as a high school coach in Texas in the 1950s, taught then-Texas A&M coach Bear Bryant zone blocking for offensive lineman (some books credit Vince Lombardi developing zone blocking at Army during the same time period). To this day, virtually every NFL team uses zone blocking up front. Joe has yet to hear anyone advocate Bum Phillips as a Hall of Fame coach.
Joe looked up Coryell’s postseason record (.333). Here’s some coaches that never reached the Super Bowl who have better postseason records: Phillips (.571), Lou Saban (.500), Walt Michaels (.500), Jerry “Mr.” Burns (.500), Jerry Glanville (.429), Steve Mariucci (.429), Dick Nolan (.400), John Robinson (.400), Dave Wannstedt (.400) and Chuck Knox (.389).
Each of these coaches never made it to a Super Bowl but had better postseason records than Coryell. Joe has yet to hear anyone of these coaches talked about as Hall of Fame coaches.
Let’s see, Paul Brown, Chuck Noll, Bill Walsh, Don Shula, Joe Gibbs, Tom Landry, Lombardi and Coryell. Which name doesn’t fit?
Joe remembers watching George Allen coach rings around Coryell, often using the same play over and over and over and Cardinals coaches could never adjust.
Oh, and take a guess who John McKay beat in the Bucs very first home win in 1977? That’s right, Don Coryell and the Cardinals! The Bucs defense held the great offensive mastermind Coryell to a lone touchdown that day. It seemed all too often in close games Coryell was overly quick to abandon a solid running game with bruising Jim Otis running behind — at that time — one of the NFL’s best offensive lines, only to go three-and-out with the pass.
To Joe, that’s not smart football. That’s not what Hall of Fame coaches do.
Joe is convinced most of this nonsense about putting Coryell into the Hall of Fame is hatched because of NFL Films great work on the overtime classic when Coryell’s Chargers beat Miami in the Orange Bowl, largely thanks to Kellen Winslow’s block of a very makeable Uwe von Schamann’s field goal attempt.
If von Schamann makes that field goal, Joe is guessing there wouldn’t be any talk of Coryell in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
And what did Coryell’s vaunted team do the next week in the AFC Championship? They got pounded in the frigid Riverfront Stadium by none other than Sam Wyche.
No, Don Coryell should not be in the Hall of Fame.
And if he is, then there is absolutely zero reason to keep Chuck out of the Hall of Fame. NONE!
Unlike Coryell, Chucky got a team to the Super Bowl, and crushed his opponent, largely due to outstanding coaching.
Of course Joe is human, despite what some believe. He is not the great Satan as some suggest.
So when Joe heard of former NFL coach Don Coryell passing away, Joe was somewhat saddened. Joe was in grade school, and later high school, when Coryell coached the old St. Louis Cardinals to two division titles before his pass-happy, outscore-the-opponent style of play flamed out in five years without winning a playoff game.
He later went on to San Diego where he passed even more and had only slightly better success with the same concept: who cares how much the other team scores, we’ll outscore them.
Coryell retired without getting his heralded teams to a Super Bowl. They were fun to watch but his style of football was once again reinforced by the football gods that a team has to occasionally play defense to win in the postseason.
So when Joe read in recent days from reasoned, seasoned football writers, two in particular Joe has a world of respect and admiration for, Howard Balzer and Peter King, advocate that Coryell should be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, Joe nearly fell off his barstool.
Wha… what???
Joe nearly threw up when he read this. By what standards should a man who had marginal success as an NFL coach, who never reached a Super Bowl, be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame???
Joe got into a back-and-forth on Twitter with Balzer — who Joe was unaware followed him on Twitter — about the Coryell subject. Joe is rather humbled that Balzer follows Joe, in all seriousness.
Balzer told Joe that Coryell belongs because he was an innovator whose teachings are still being practiced today. Joe countered that if that is the criteria, then Red Hickey and Bum Phillips should also be strong candidates for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
In Joe’s eyes, innovation does not equal elite.
Hickey coached the 49ers in the 1950s. He is largely credited with developing the shotgun formation, which is still used by virtually every team today. Joe has yet to hear any sober person make the case for Hickey to be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Depending on what book you read, Bum Phillips, as a high school coach in Texas in the 1950s, taught then-Texas A&M coach Bear Bryant zone blocking for offensive linemen (some books credit Vince Lombardi developing zone blocking at Army during the same time period). To this day, virtually every NFL team uses zone blocking up front. Joe has yet to hear anyone campaign for Phillips as a Hall of Fame coach.
Joe looked up Coryell’s postseason record (.333). Here’s some coaches who, like Coryell, never reached the Super Bowl who have better postseason records: Phillips (.571), Lou Saban (.500), Walt Michaels (.500), Jerry “Mr.” Burns (.500), Jerry Glanville (.429), Steve Mariucci (.429), Dick Nolan (.400), John Robinson (.400), Dave Wannstedt (!) (.400) and Chuck Knox (.389).
None of these coaches made it to a Super Bowl but had better postseason records than Coryell. Joe has yet to hear anyone of these coaches talked about as Hall of Fame coaches. None.
Let’s see, Paul Brown, Chuck Noll, Bill Walsh, Don Shula, Joe Gibbs, Tom Landry, Lombardi and Coryell. Which name doesn’t fit?
Joe remembers watching George Allen coach rings around Coryell, often using the same play in the fourth quarter over and over and over and Cardinals coaches could never adjust. It seemed all too often in close games Coryell was overly quick to abandon a solid running game with bruising Jim Otis running behind — at that time — one of the NFL’s best offensive lines, only to go 3-and-out with the pass.
To Joe, that’s not smart football. That’s not what Hall of Fame coaches do.
If a man wasn’t even the second-best coach in his division, exactly how can he be mentioned as a serious Hall of Fame candidate?
Please, someone, anyone, go back to the 1970s or early 1980s and find any reference where people thought Coryell was Hall of Fame material. Generally when a player or coach is in the prime of their careers, one thinks, “Man, that guy is a Hall of Famer.” This never happened when Coryell was on the sidelines. It’s revisionist history at its worst. Because Coryell was the second coach (Noll was the first) to play Nintendo football, he’s a Hall of Fame candidate, really???
Oh, and take a guess who John McKay beat in the Bucs’ very first home win in 1977? That’s right, Don Coryell and the Cardinals! The Bucs defense held the great offensive mastermind Coryell to a lone touchdown that day.
Joe is convinced most of this nonsense about putting Coryell into the Hall of Fame is hatched because of NFL Films’ great work on the overtime classic when Coryell’s Chargers beat Miami in the Orange Bowl in the first round of the 1981 playoffs, largely thanks to Kellen Winslow’s block of a very makeable Uwe von Schamann field goal attempt.
If Von Schamann makes that field goal, Joe is guessing there wouldn’t be any talk of Coryell in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
And what did Coryell’s vaunted team do the next week in the AFC Championship? They got waxed in the frigid Riverfront Stadium by none other than Forrest Gregg.
No, Don Coryell should not be in the Hall of Fame. The Pro Football Hall of Fame is for the elite, not the pretty good.
And if Coryell is ever inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, then there is absolutely zero reason to keep Chucky out of the Hall of Fame. NONE!
The gall to have this man, Coryell, who never coached in a Super Bowl, would be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame before men who won two rings like Tom Flores and George Siefert, is appalling to Joe!
Unlike Coryell, Chucky got a team to the Super Bowl, and crushed his opponent, largely due to outstanding coaching.
Chucky’s coaching.
Someone explain to Joe a championship game Coryell’s team won due to his superior coaching.
That example does not exist.
If Coryell is elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame, Joe is going to go on a crusade to get Chucky elected that will make Joe’s advances upon Rachel Watson pale in comparison!