“There Were A Couple Of Plays Where I Saw Devin White Got Housed. You Hear Me?”
November 6th, 2021
Former Bucs G Ian Beckles.
A veteran of the Tampa Bay trenches had strong words for a pair of Bucs first round draft picks, one on defense and one on offense.
And this same man believes the two were unwilling culprits in the loss to the slimy Saints.
Former Bucs guard Ian Beckles took to his podcast “In the Trenches” to share strong words for Bucs inside linebacker Devin White and tight end O.J. Howard.
Beckles, who quickly admits he is a big fan of White, wants to know why he has disappeared this season?
“It’s time to get real here, OK?” Beckles began. “There were a couple of plays where I saw Devin White got housed. You hear me?
“On one touchdown, Devin White was five yards deep into the end zone getting blocked. People, I have seen greatness. And I really like Devin White as a football player. Not so much this year.
“Have you heard his name a lot this year? At the beginning of the year everybody was talking about Devin White may be Defensive Player of the Year. What big plays has Devin White made this year? He was getting drove into the end zone. Not a good look.”
And then, Beckles came out with both barrels blazing and said he’s had it with Howard unless he dramatically picks up his game, like beginning with the game at Washington a week from tomorrow.
“I’m getting tired of talking about O.J. Howard,” Beckles said. “If O.J. Howard doesn’t show up next week and do something, I’m not going to talk about him no more. Because he is just a number.
“I saw him in the game [Sunday]. … He looks the part. He looks better than any tight ends on the planet. Where in the eff is O.J. Howard? Seriously. Gronk is out. And O.J. Howard does nothing [after Gronk is hurt]? When Gronk goes out you gotta think, ‘OK, the second-string tight end is O.J. Howard. He is going to get substantially more snaps.’ O.J. Howard, 28 snaps. Come on now. [That’s] 46 percent of the plays. You are the guy! Cameron Brate played more than O.J. Howard. And Cameron Brate can’t block. I’m just getting over O.J. Howard. I’m getting over it. I don’t even know what to ask for anymore.
“Every three games he will score a touchdown on the back end of a misdirection of a playcall. He really don’t house nobody. He doesn’t go up and get the ball. I’ve never really seen him position for a football. I’m not impressed with O.J. Howard. I’m sorry, that’s just the way it is.”
Other Beckles thoughts:
* “Did the Buccaneers beat themselves? Yup, they did. Did the Buccaneers get beat? Yup, they did that too. So you can beat yourself while you are getting beat.”
* “When you let another team outrush you by 15 carries, you are going to lose almost every time.”
* “Too many mental errors. … Stupid penalties happen. If they continue to happen, you will continue to lose. … The Buccaneers played stupid football. They also got punched in the mouth.”
* “Our defensive backs aren’t playing well, OK? I think it is obvious. Jamel Dean still looks stiff to me.”
* “Know what the biggest thing we are missing is? A pass rush. When you talk about a team being hungry — hunger to me is running the football and rushing the passer. That’s hunger. … We didn’t run the ball and we let Trevor Siemian and Jameis Winston be comfortable in the pocket. Shame on us defensively!”
And despite the ugly, ugly loss to the slimy Saints that may cost the Bucs big time in the race for homefield advantage, Beckles advised Bucs fans not to go mental over losing to the Saints.
“Now everybody relax,” Beckles cautioned. “Go back and look at the history of Buccaneers football. I’ll bet in the history of the franchise they have beat New Orleans in New Orleans no more than six times. [Editor’s note: 12 times.] So am I going to trip over the Buccaneers losing in New Orleans? I’m not.
“I thought the Bucs were too strong to lose to another NFC South opponent. I was wrong.”
November 6th, 2021 at 10:07 am
Agree on all points.
November 6th, 2021 at 10:12 am
Devin White looks like a shell of himself. Like Mike Tyson after Mike got knocked out by Buster Douglas.
November 6th, 2021 at 10:18 am
Truth, other than the editor’s note of course. Nice catch Joe. A lot of football left. Way to early to worry about #1 seed. Start a new streak, and peak at the end with a healthy squad.
November 6th, 2021 at 10:24 am
I’d rather see Devin White stepping his game up, rather than playing horse shoes or connect 4 on his toy horses. I think he’s been drinking too much of his own cool-aid this year instead of walking the walk.
November 6th, 2021 at 10:37 am
Whites freelancing and it’s obvious. He’s trying to make splash plays instead of just playing his position and letting the big plays happen. JPP also not playing too well. I realize he’s been injured but I’m real tired of the QBs escaping out his end not to mention the reverses and running plays he’s getting caught inside on. Seems several players are trying too hard to make big plays.
November 6th, 2021 at 10:39 am
see it all the time, he’s no lavonte david.
November 6th, 2021 at 10:41 am
@Leighroy
I couldn’t have said it better. Time for Devin to stop with his little show although it’s great to see his personality, but it’s time for more film study and to start playing better. He looks nothing like the guy we saw in the playoffs last year.
As far as OJ Howard (well that’s all I’ve got to say about that)
November 6th, 2021 at 10:54 am
White is more about reckless intensity and posing on social media than playing well, playing disciplined. He’s trying too hard to make splash plays and prove he’s The Man than just putting his head down and doing his job.
November 6th, 2021 at 11:03 am
45 bought a mansion.
He has lost his edge
Let’s see if he gets it back
November 6th, 2021 at 11:07 am
This is a general critique and not just Devin White:
Is it just me or when the Bucs blitz, they seem to look for the open blocker? You see other teams blitz LB’s and DB’s and more times than not, you see one guy coming clean and at the very least, forcing an early throw. We didn’t see that at all in the Saints game and not terribly often the last couple of years.
November 6th, 2021 at 11:10 am
I’m almost hoping we find out White has some sort of nagging injury that’s been affecting him the whole year
November 6th, 2021 at 11:15 am
Pete has a point. And as many sacks as Devin White this season. Sad.
November 6th, 2021 at 11:19 am
This is all coaching. White is still a rookie, he shouldn’t be freelancing he should be under control. Bowles thinks these guys can do it on pure talent. There are fundamentals that need to be in place for every position. This is what White lacks. Even his tackling is like watching the WWF. When do you ever see him low and drive through a tackle versus wrestling the runner to the ground? As far as OJ, useless. A man of that size can’t go up for a pass or block? Bucs could use another blocking TE that is adequate at receiving. OJ is neither.
November 6th, 2021 at 11:41 am
@Listnfrmafar
You must be close to my age I’m 48 tackling has changed since I was playing in college and highschool. I definitely hate seeing the diving at the ankles stuff and send the ball carry flying forward for an additional 3-5yds.
November 6th, 2021 at 11:51 am
I am really ashamed at some of you so called bucs fans. Don’t you guys get it in the regular season we cannot win against the Saints. Jus like last year we got swept in the regular season then even back in our first Superbowl season we were swept by the Slimy saints. So I say that to say this. Even in our best years those nasty saints pull off a couple upsets on us, but I know a championship team when I see one and we Buc$ definitely have a championship team. Go Bucs!!!
November 6th, 2021 at 1:21 pm
AS for White Trash Talk and intimidation don’t make you a better football player.
Time for Devin White and to get right and having foolish penalties. I don’t blame him for the horse collar because I don’t think it was intentional. The taunting was a rookie type play, totally immature.
AS for OJ, he has a 13 of 19 catch rate. HE also had a couple of punishing
runs on screens two weeks ago. IMO, if you block and and do the dirty work
as a TE he has earned more touches. Color me confused ,but with Cam Brate
only bringing in 13 of 25, he is far from being as dependable a target as he used to be.
November 6th, 2021 at 1:46 pm
I’ve been saying for the longest..OJ Howard is just a big body. This guy plays timid n scared, always has n always will. Five years in the league n what has he done for us since being drafted. I ask u all to please watch OJ Howard on the Fournette endzone fumble. My wife said OJ was scared n hesitant to go after the ball in the endzone but pretended as if he was going for it after the play was dead n over, what an actor. OJ is a big pretender n he’s always steered away from contact. Five years in the league n the tapes don’t lie on him. I’ve seen enough from him so folks can keep wishing n hoping but there’s no coming back from the dead.
November 6th, 2021 at 1:52 pm
Why would the game in New Orleans be such a surprise, at least in terms of penalties, tepid pass rush, poor plays by the CBs, and topped with the inability of Devin White to shed a blocker? We’ve seen all the above all season. From afar it looks like poor discipline and hubris, both a bad reflection on the coaching.
The only surprise was the inability of this team to beat Trevor Siemian. That was shameful.
November 6th, 2021 at 1:53 pm
Devin White horse collar intentional?
You mean he meant cause ACL N MCL
to Winston. Nawww. He s just a
dirty player with a attitude to boot.
Plays with a edge n on the margins
of rules. That’s all. Wish he was on my team.
November 6th, 2021 at 2:38 pm
Even before I read the article, I knew Beckles was talking about White and OJ.
November 6th, 2021 at 3:30 pm
Ian probably got housed to
Turnovers lost this game simple
November 6th, 2021 at 3:39 pm
DW sometimes gets lost on coverage and run schemes and needs to clean up that part of his game, but he is still leading the team in tackles. The Bucs will bounce back from this loss. What is Brady’s record in games after a bye week? It’s on to Washington! Bring on the WFT!
November 6th, 2021 at 4:25 pm
Strange that Bucs’ fans always seem to seek out scapegoats after losses, and have for years. Of course, maybe all NFL fans do the same thing; don’t know.
It was Devin White’s turn in the barrel after the Saints’ game. Agree with Bob in Valrico that his horsecollar tackle WASN’T INTENTIONAL, but that’s beside the point; it still cost us a big 15-yards and, just as importantly, most likely got the refs keeping a close eye on the Bucs (and White especially) for the rest of the game. The other 2 penalties by White though could’ve been avoided.
But during all the piling-on, no one’s mentioned a single word about what else Devin did in the game. For starters, he played 100% of the defensive snaps, all 76 of them. He blitzed a total of 13 times in the game (too many IMO, especially given that neither JPP & Shaq blitzed at all). Didn’t get any sacks, but did get 1 Hurry & 1 QB Knockdown for a total of 2 Pressures. For another, he made 10 tackles in that game to lead the team in that category. For another, he was targeted 4 times, but only 2 were completed (50% completion rate).
Personally don’t like that White is blitzing as much as he is. On the season, the Bucs have blitzed a total of 254 times as a team; White has blitzed on 63 of those (25% of the team total), and leads the Bucs in that department by far. In fact, that’s almost as many as Shaq (41 blitzes) and JPP (28 blitzes) TOGETHER. And what does Devin have to show for all those blitzes? Well, for one thing a total of ZERO sacks. But in all fairness he does have 13 total pressures (less than 15% of the team total of 90 pressures). IOW, he’s being ‘over-blitzed’ (25% of our total blitzes) when you look at the payoffs (15% of our total Pressures).
Bottom line: there’s more at play here me thinks than what we’re seeing. There’s a word for those who keep doing the same thing over & over but keep expecting different results. And BTW, last season White blitzed 91 times out of our team total of 542 blitzes (16.8%) … far less than what he’s blitzing this season. And he had 20 total pressures (including his 9 sacks) of the team total of 193 pressures (10.4%).
LVD had 3 total pressures last season (1.6% of our total 193) in his 65 blitzes (12% of our total 542 blitzes). IOW, our ILBs weren’t all that effective last year when it came to generating pressure via blitzing. Not that effective this year either. What’s even worse, blitzing them so much seems to be making us unnecessarily very vulnerable to quick, short passes. Whodathunkit?
November 6th, 2021 at 6:30 pm
My ADD kicked in after the first few stats Defense Rules. In summary it sounds like you want to give Devin White a participation trophy?
I like the kid, think he has ton of potential. I just want it to be realized sooner rather than later, bc I haven’t seen results this year. Those last 2 words being the key words.
November 6th, 2021 at 7:08 pm
No really what is coming next is? The defense is tired from blitzing so much.
November 6th, 2021 at 7:15 pm
I’m with you Leighroy; my ADD runs amok too. Not a fan at all of participation trophies. White’s 2021 (thus far) isn’t as high-caliber as his 2020 was. He’s not alone. And oh ya, our ILBs are blitzing too much because they’re quite inefficient at it. Better?
November 6th, 2021 at 7:28 pm
That game was a total team lose all the way through. I thought the offensive game plan was crap and so was how our defense played their recievers.
November 6th, 2021 at 9:23 pm
They don’t ever target O.J.. I don’t see how his lack of production is even his fault.
November 7th, 2021 at 7:11 am
Joe , Could you please ask the Buc braintrust why they are not running the ball more???? Saints game we rushed 14 times for 70 , not nearly enough. Team is averaging well above 4 yards per rush on the season. If Bucs do not start balancing the attack more to do a better job of giving the defense more rest, you may very well continue to see more poor defense from a unit that is spending too much time on the field.
November 7th, 2021 at 7:15 am
Saints time of possession 33.00 to Bucs 26.00
November 7th, 2021 at 8:13 am
Time to regroup and rally the troups.. let’s see how we look after the bye before we start talking about another Super Bowl run. I’ve been saying this since before we played one meaningful snap this season, and it’s time we see if our Bucs are forreal in going for two, or gunna end up on another Super Bowl hangover.
November 7th, 2021 at 8:39 am
DR, any chance you can share those stats with Bowles? I’d say BA to but he’d most likely skip the meeting. This coaching staff is horrible, how is it possible a Monday morning QB like DR can recognize this but a millionaire DC does not. DR, when you have time cause I ain’t doing it, what were the blitzing stats for SB? Great info thx.
November 7th, 2021 at 8:55 am
This blows me away, if DR’s stats are correct me like many of you have been trashing the secondary when in fact its the coaching schemes that is the majority of the issues. Hard to defend a pass with no defender in the area.
November 7th, 2021 at 10:55 am
I think he’s mistaken. I saw Lavonte David get mauled in the endzone by a bottom-string tight end, it wasn’t Devin White… speaking of David, what has he done all year? He’s near last in nearly every defensive category
November 7th, 2021 at 1:06 pm
Very rarely agree with Beckles but he is spot about the Defense. They simply do not look nor do they play…. Hungry. Rams, Saints and Cowboys defenses? They play Hungry. Bowles is gotta do something to fire up the prima donna’s who have their flashy superbowl rings. Because every single team is giving us their best shot. Devin White is talkin a lot more trash this year and delivering less. We still got a shot . But in the 2nd half of this yr, Our Buc Defense has got to ramp it up bigtime. We shall see. If they don’t, No superbowl for these Bucs.
November 7th, 2021 at 4:59 pm
I’ll question is tackling ability. Devin White tackles around the shoulder area and starting to think he not a pure tackler or don’t know how to wrap up around
the waiste fundamentally. For a top 5 pick, should be Ray Lewis Jr. No less