Now It’s Bucs Players

June 20th, 2020

More positive tests.

Sounds like the Bucs may want to shut down One Buc Palace again.

Per Adam Schefter of BSPN, two Bucs players have tested positive for “The Sickness.” This in addition to an unnamed assistant coach who tested positive but showed no symptoms.

Mind you, One Buc Palace has only reopened for less than a week. Also note that players are off until training camp is scheduled to open on July 21.

Joe is trying to look at this in a positive light: Test, test, test. The more you test, the better to catch this right away and potentially save lives.

Man, the Tampa Bay area, especially sports teams, seems to be getting hit hard the past few days.

74 Responses to “Now It’s Bucs Players”

  1. El Buco Realisto Says:

    Look at the positives sheep!!!!!!! Wether there is a full season or not, the result will be the same!!!!!!!!! No Playoffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ole stale biscuit is at best the third best coach in the NFC South division!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  2. Mike Johnson Says:

    Like I’ve said repeatedly here, If there is a season, it will start and end abruptly after many players are infected. You cannot defy a disease as our glorious furor der thinks he can. The virus cares less. It sees opportunities galore. Which brings me to the guaranteed salary of our messiah..Brady. This is gonna cut his window to one year. What a gravy train he latched on to and brought his sidekick in for 10 mil knowing gronk never completes a season. Sorry guys, Our Bucs got hoodwinked once again. But..its what the BucLife does.

  3. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    A shame

    In the last few weeks it’s been the Phillies, Lightning and the bucs hit really hard.
    Why is this flaring up so badly here?

  4. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    Man Realist had to come in and be toxic as usual.

    I guess if I say something over and over again it will be true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  5. Jimmy Says:

    Do what the nba is doing and just isolate them from everyone else

  6. Lord Cornelius Says:

    If there’s a season gonna be one of the weirdest ever lol

  7. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    Well,

    At least this isn’t like the lightning where they figured out after they let everyone back into the team facilities.

  8. John Says:

    Doug Williams curse…. I’m a believer

  9. stpetebucsfan Says:

    2020 is going to be a year we’ll NEVER forget.

    At this point I’m just thankful for the health of my family and I pray for everybody else.

    Something good will eventually come out of all of this…sadly I do not think an NFL season is in the works for 2020.

    https://www.wfla.com/news/hillsborough-county/tampa-bay-area-could-become-coronavirus-hot-spot-experts-warn/

    “The newest projections indicate that if we do not recognize the exposures that have happened over the past six or eight weeks alone that by the middle of July, Hillsborough County could have between 6,000 and 18,000 new cases a day,” USF professor Dr. Jay Wolfson said. “And that would certainly make it a hot spot.”

    The dire words come as cases increase in the young adult age group, generally people 25 to 34.

    “A lot of the young people are really tired of this and the young cohort are tired of this, and they’re back doing what they did before March, before we saw a shutdown,” USF’s Dr. Tom Unnasch said, referring to people going out and enjoying bars and restaurants.

  10. mark2001 Says:

    The problem with the players is they believe the disease exists and allow themselves to be tested. As some philosophical genius said, no tests/ no cases. Problem solved…covid is a hoax to make the Pres. look bad. And since we have few migrant workers on the squad, per our great gov., we can expect few to no cases. And as someone said, nothing to be concerned about….we can expect the numbers to go from 10, to 1, to zero. Happy days.

  11. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Ironically the spike is coming in the 18-34 age group which our Virus deniers will point out generally do not suffer the same % of fatalities…and that is true.

    However they do infect others..including their parents…aunts and uncles and just generally contribute to the spread.

    Masks and simple physical distancing have shown to reduce the rates of infection by as much as 95%. How did this ever become political?

  12. Alanbucsfan Says:

    We are in the process of herd immunity, folks.
    Let the process work its course, while protecting the vulnerable- elderly and those with underlying medical conditions.

  13. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    We have to learn to live with this….like we do the flu…….there are some (including me) who are very vulnerable and should be extremely cautious…..others, not so much.
    It would take a great deal to cancel the season outright….my guess is that they will at least try to conduct the season and adjust if necessary.
    I think expanded rosters would be a good idea and the player’s union would probably be in favor.

  14. gp Says:

    stpete
    *How did this ever become political?*
    Now THERE is the question of the day!
    The sickness doesn’t care who you vote for or why.
    Maybe if we drop the politics we can work together to fix this situation?
    Sadly, there is little hope for that.

  15. Formerly Tampa 2 Says:

    I think that the Cities that have had protest/riots will be hit harder due to these close assembly’s. And as someone above pointed out, these young people may not be affected much but bring it home to Families and friends.

  16. adam from ny Says:

    whoa…

    from ryan jensen’s sweaty swamp azz, to tom brady’s golden fingers, to everyone who touches the football thereafter…

    this runs deep…

    can you honestly even see sideline staff walking around spraying water bottles into players mouths in abundance as they do?…

    hands off the gatorade nozzle and water cooler nozzles guys…

    the littlest things can ultimately be the biggest spreaders…

    what about when linemen talk sheet to each other and get in each others faces with spitty sweaty breath clouds of beefy linemen funk?…

    i get it…the nfl is going to try…but the virus will make the decision in the end

    ps i wasn’t trying to get on jensen about a swampy azz…i was just expanding on the point about how a quarterback goes digging for gold on literally every snap

  17. Mike Johnson Says:

    its the BucLife curse, Dough Williams, Steve Young, Trent Dilfer. I betcha jameis Winston is added to this list in the future. And If Brady goes down? Its gonna be a 50 mil curse with Gabbert added as the topping.

  18. Pewter Power Says:

    The idiots are out in full force and can’t wait for something negative to say. Having trouble looking at the positive? How about it’s June 20th and players are off until training camp is scheduled to open on July 21. They should be more afraid to get it now rather than later. At least those 2 players can quarantine themselves and get it out the way If they will sure get this virus do it now

  19. bojim Says:

    realist. Were you always a dick?

  20. gp Says:

    bojim
    You’d have to ask his ‘sheep’

  21. FanO’Bucs Says:

    Funny math. Seems a disproportionately high amount of public figures.

    Quite the marketing effort!

  22. WillieG Says:

    So what if they tested positive?! Are they sick? Are they in the ICU? Are they on death’s doorstep? I bet the answer to all is a resounding “no”. The fact that no media outlets report anything other than the increase in the number of cases, tells me the vast majority aren’t getting very sick at all.

    We shouldn’t have moved beyond “stay home if you’re sick or vulnerable”.
    We don’t do it for the flu each year, and it kills more people than this BS media hyped bug.

  23. mark2001 Says:

    Alan…hate to burst your bubble…but with the communicability of this disease, it might require about a 90% rate of infection. That is what the scientists said months ago. But of course, I listen to real news, and that is why I saw this coming and sold my stocks back in January.

  24. mark2001 Says:

    TB…we can’t “learn to live with it”. We can learn to develop a vaccine and conquer it. Recent studies say antibodies and risk of reinfection may only be two to three months. Which means never ending misery…if we just accept the attitude of “learning to live with it”.

  25. mark2001 Says:

    Willie..your betting could be wrong. And if you had it, you would think differently. But based upon the way some are ignoring the advice to cut down transmission by blatantly ignoring CDC recommendations, don’t worry. You might have your chance to see how it effects you before too long.

  26. mark2001 Says:

    Formally…many in those protests had masks…so they reduced the level of communicability. Most of the major outbreaks have been in bars and other social gatherings, often among young people that feel invincible or just don’t give a darn. That is why the younger age group is growing the fastest.

  27. mark2001 Says:

    St. Pete…it became political when some wanted to deny that a pandemic existed, and tried to brush it away as a political hoax…an attempt to defame the President. And to continue to deny it means acting like it doesn’t exist. So what was a logical response to a virus, wearing masks, which we saw in 1918, when they didn’t even know what a virus was, is rejected. And when 1 in 300 people actually get the disease, and no one you know has it…though they might and be asymptomatic, allows them to continue denying it exists. Then add personal freedom to other reasons of varying degrees why you shouldn’t have to wear a mask, and the virus has a field day. Very sad…but reality.

  28. Ecc Says:

    Damn China

  29. Lance Says:

    I would like to see them get it and get it out of the way. Some of my family and friends have gotten it and gotten over it.

  30. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    This isn’t China’s fault. It just happened to start there. China is no more at fault than the Amazon is at fault for Ebola.

    The NFL needs to increase rosters drastically until the virus is dealt with.

  31. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    We would not be in this predicament if our top leader had not rushed re-opening.

  32. gp Says:

    In the words of the esteemed(?) Rahm Emanuel, “Never let a good crises go to waste”
    Yes it has become far more political than scientific and far the worse for us as a result.
    We can argue till we run out of oil as to who ‘started it’ but that solves no problems.
    It would be nice if the science could be separated from the politics but I have doubts about that as well.
    I wish I could believe even half of what I hear(regardless of the source)
    I also wish a few more people would be a little more skeptical of the crap that they are fed daily by the so-called ‘News”

  33. gp Says:

    BB
    Hate to break this to you but the Amazon is in South America, slightly separated from Africa by the pond we like to call the Atlantic Ocean.

  34. gp Says:

    We would not be in this predicament if China hadn’t experimented with the “C V” and then “goofed” and let it out.

  35. DBS Says:

    Stupid people is why it is spreading.Went to Lowes today in Tallahassee. Just for the he’ll of it I counted. Out of 135 people 31 had on a mask. Even elders were walki,g around without them. People reaching over other each other to get items. This was the reason they knew idiots could not follow directions. Now It is getting worse day by day.

  36. bucsfaninoregon Says:

    [Sorry man, Joe is responsible for everything typed on this site. Suggesting a former Secretary of State has a sexual proclivity for children is not going to fly here. — Joe]

  37. Barack's Crack Pipe Says:

    stpetebucsfan Says:
    “Masks and simple physical distancing have shown to reduce the rates of infection by as much as 95%. How did this ever become political?”
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    In a clinical string, with proper fitting of masks, and with the eyes also protected, this may be true. In an everyday setting, there has been no such evidence whatsoever. In fact, Fauci is among many scientists who acknowledge there is only a placebo effect in public, because the eyes aren’t protected, cheap masks that don’t have the proper materials or fit, people don’t change the mask every time they touch it with their hands, or every time it becomes damp. If you do have small amounts of virus in your sinuses, but are not sick, the inside of the mask can actually save up the small amounts of exhaled virus and wind up exposing you to a large enough collective dose to make you sick. These are facts, no matter how much it doesn’t fit your narrative.

    Speaking of politicizing an issue…

    The difference is that I won’t laugh at you for making a reasoned personal decision to wear it if you want to protect yourself. On the other hand, you cant stop virtue signaling and trying to tell others what they should be doing. Keep it a personal choice and quit politicizing the issue.

  38. BucDan Says:

    What, DBS!? You mean it’s everyday people and not “all those protesters”?

    Here in Central Florida, many cases have been traced to restaurants and bars that opened with very lax (aka none) protective measures.

  39. mark2001 Says:

    Bonzai…we could have been better prepared and reacted sooner. Supposedly case zero actually came from Europe, and had arrived there from China. The attempts to stop it by cutting off travel from China was a day late and a dollar short. And we should have reacted sooner in the production and accumulation of protective equipment. Other things could have been done sooner, but we were busy hoping that denial and pacifying the public by telling them it wasn’t real, or wasn’t a real problem. allowed the virus to take hold. Some still hold to those bedtime stories. When it started to expand geometrically in NY, the horse had left the barn, as they used to say.

  40. Bush's Coke Straw Says:

    FanO’Bucs Says:
    “Funny math. Seems a disproportionately high amount of public figures. Quite the marketing effort!”
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    One who can see!

  41. Bush's Coke Straw Says:

    Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
    “This isn’t China’s fault. It just happened to start there. China is no more at fault than the Amazon is at fault for Ebola.”
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    There are over 100 biological warfare labs all over the world. One is in Wuhan. If you think that every new pathogen that we see is just a natural occurrence, you are naive.

  42. mark2001 Says:

    Crack… It is true that an ill fitting mask likely wouldn’t keep you safe. But that isn’t the point. It is that it will cut down your aerosol and infect others. And that is very important. My only question is, why don’t you know that? The reason a society successfully exists is because we keep our worst instincts in check, while allowing as much freedom as possible that doesn’t negatively impact the rights of others. We have a social responsibility to keep them from harm. Wearing a mask is a social responsibility…to others…and they should be socially responsible to help protect your parents, and your loved ones. If not, society deteriorates.

  43. mark2001 Says:

    Exactly Dan… the facts don’t correlate positively with the data. But that doesn’t seem to bother some.

  44. Bush's Coke Straw Says:

    mark2001 Says:
    “We can learn to develop a vaccine and conquer it. Recent studies say antibodies and risk of reinfection may only be two to three months.”
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    The common cold is a coronavirus, so talk of a vaccine is not very encouraging. Reinfection after 2 or 3 months isn’t good, but studies in the EU suggest that subsequent infections are a weaker mutation of the virus, so there is that.

  45. Bush's Coke Straw Says:

    Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
    “We would not be in this predicament if our top leader had not rushed re-opening.”
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    No, we would just have 10s of thousands more people losing their businesses, and probably hundreds of thousands more people losing their homes. Not to mention millions more worldwide starving because the selfish Americans decided to shut down to save a few thousand of their own.

    We still ship millions of tons of surplus farm product to 3rd world countries. We care so much about poor people worldwide, that we have held benefit concerts to raise money for those people. But all of a sudden, when a sickness arrives which might prove to be just more serious than the common flu, we forget all about those MILLIONS of lives that leftists used to pretend to care about.

    I still care about them, because being a Christian does not end where my personal well-being begins.

  46. DBS Says:

    Mark and BucDan. That was just 1 example. But of course bif you can’t figure that out with how many ways and places it is happening. The protesters. Well you don’t want my opinion on that. Because if you could prove they infected someone?

  47. Bush's Coke Straw Says:

    DBS Says:
    “Stupid people is why it is spreading.Went to Lowes today in Tallahassee. Just for the he’ll of it I counted. Out of 135 people 31 had on a mask.”
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    Since there hasn’t been a big outbreak in tally, maybe they are just smarter than you.

    😛

  48. Bucsfanman Says:

    “Reasoned personal decisions” is exactly what we should be doing. It should be a selfless one as well. At least until it’s brought under control, IMO.
    Stay well everyone!

  49. Bush's Coke Straw Says:

    mark2001 Says:
    “Crack… It is true that an ill fitting mask likely wouldn’t keep you safe. But that isn’t the point. It is that it will cut down your aerosol and infect others.”
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    And there’s the rub. We are each responsible for our own well-being. That is natural law. If you know that you are at risk, then you should do what you feel is best for you. No one else can be held responsible for your health, by simply living their life.

    If you are at-risk, then wear a mask and quarantine. I should not be asked to do things which actually lower my natural immunity, because it makes someone else feel better. This is natural law.

    Now, I will probably get killed on this thread for saying so, but the fact is that I am not the selfish one. The person who tries to limit MY freedoms for THEIR benefit is actually the selfish one.

  50. Bush's Coke Straw Says:

    mark2001 Says:
    “Wearing a mask is a social responsibility…to others…and they should be socially responsible to help protect your parents, and your loved ones.”
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    If I lived with my parents I might change my daily routine for them. But I don’t. In fact, they know what I know about proper nutrition and a healthy immune system, and they aren’t wearing masks everywhere, either.

    If you have proper levels of vitamin C, vitamin D, magnesium, and zinc, your body will fight off airborne infection just fine. Why doesn’t the mainstream medical community teach this? Could it be because they make billions of dollars every year treating sicknesses that are entirely preventable? Why is it so important that the media monopolies censor medical professionals and scientists who try to share this wisdom online?

    Wake up, my people!

  51. Bush's Coke Straw Says:

    Vitamin C, vitamin D (wonder why they want us to stay inside so badly?), magnesium, and zinc.

    Studies have shown that nearly all COVID19 cases have been deficient in one or more of these nutrients. Think about it!

    Hydroxychloroquine treatment is only effective if one has sufficient levels of ZINC! Which is why zinc supplementation is a part of successful hydroxychloroquine therapy. Zinc is a natural viral disruptor. All the hydroxychloroquine does is help the zinc cross the cell wall barrier.

  52. mark2001 Says:

    DBS… I think Dan was being faceious…not really disagreeing with you.

    And I’ve seen places like Lowes that are just as bad regarding the masks. And many of the people in there have been older, overweight men; prime candidates for mortality from the virus. For some, I guess it takes a death of a loved one for it to hit home. But then, who do they blame?

    Regarding the protestors…most of the protesters I saw were wearing masks… a much higher percentage of them had masks that what I’ve seen in bars and in some other businesses as you mentioned. Of course, any social gathering for any purpose poses a risk.. so I’m not saying it isn’t possible or even likely for some spread.

  53. Bush's Coke Straw Says:

    @bucsfaninoregon
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    Something IS rotten in Washington DC! And hollywierd! Has a lot to do with why General Flynn had to go.

  54. Bucfever40 Says:

    Ecc Says:
    June 20th, 2020 at 3:16 pm
    Damn China……….

    Biden!
    @#%$

  55. bucsfaninoregon Says:

    Joe, you misread my post. Of course, the CADIDATE certainly did NOT have anything to do with that Pizza B.S. I was asking if a contributor’s incorrect factual statements were from the same source as that bogus one.

    I’ve seen many, many posts worse than that.

    Draft for 2021.

  56. mark2001 Says:

    Fever…read Boltons book. Or listen to him. Donnie and China XOXOXO. As long as they will help him win the next election.

  57. mark2001 Says:

    Regarding this virus… If it was an attempt at a biological weapon, it is pretty lame. The plague killed 40% of Europeans…and you don’t think a21st century biological weapon could do at least that? Not saying a virus being investigated couldn’t escape from a lab…anywhere in the world. But to think it is some bio-weapon that escaped…please. You underestimate the scientists abilities. Stephen King was much closer to what a biological plague would look like.

  58. stpetebucsfan Says:

    It’s here! It’s not the regular flu. It’s going to kill a quarter million people here.

    Those are simple facts! Now for the speculation.

    I’m the optimist so I’m hoping the recent good news about the steroid providing a 25-33% recovery rate even for the most serious patients.

    A vaccine will take a lot longer…be far more controversial with the vaxxers going off…a simple treatment is much closer and can be as if not more effective if we are to as TBBF said…learn to live with it.

    We learned to live with HIV…not because of a vaccine but because of a simple treatment. We can do the same with the Coronavirus. We may not make it go away but we can dramatically lower the death rate and shorten the illness.

    If that happens by Labor Day then maybe we get a football season.

  59. Bush's Coke Straw Says:

    mark2001 Says:
    “…and you don’t think a 21st century biological weapon could do at least that?”
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    I’m more seeing this as possibly a practice run. They keep talking about a “2nd wave,” almost like a cryptic warning. I don’t remember ever getting warned about the 2nd wave of a flu. So why the warnings? How do they know about this wave before it happens? I’m more worried about what that 2nd wave might be.

    It’s also possible that this just isn’t as deadly as someone hoped.

    You remember ebola. It’s very deadly, but not very communicable. This is very communicable, but not very deadly. Now they know.

  60. Delusional Intelligence Says:

    Everybody was Kung FLU fighting….

  61. Bucsfanman Says:

    Coke Straw- There are times where you and I disagree, but this statement right here, man, you hit the nail on the head:

    “If you have proper levels of vitamin C, vitamin D, magnesium, and zinc, your body will fight off airborne infection just fine. Why doesn’t the mainstream medical community teach this? Could it be because they make billions of dollars every year treating sicknesses that are entirely preventable? Why is it so important that the media monopolies censor medical professionals and scientists who try to share this wisdom online?”

    Now, I can’t speak directly to the censorship but this is not coincidence. Eastern medicine has long practiced preventative medicine. We continue to scoff, yet, nearly everything tested has shown to benefit.
    Is it because the “Industrial Medical Complex” is one of the top manufacturers in this country that we don’t see more of this? It doesn’t take a genius to draw THAT conclusion!
    When people start realizing they have more in common than different, discussions like these can take place.

  62. Bucsfanman Says:

    “Kung Flu fighting”!!! Anything to minimize this virus! Man, sometimes all you can do is shake your head. Heard this last night during the um, “packed rally”. (Yes, I tuned in even though I am a registered Dem! It’s a BMP to listen to ALL sides, even if you don’t agree.)

  63. mark2001 Says:

    Bush..the “second wave” talk is based upon what was seen in the last pandemic in 1918. And that isn’t that unusual… when people let their guard down, start acting as if it never existed and the number of cases then explode. Really, that is basically what that talk is all about. It isn’t about another virus or something of the sort.

  64. TOM Says:

    I think this whole covid-19 testing is a bunch of bull. A lot of losers just like seeing our country in panic mode. (you know who you are) Enough already.

  65. mark2001 Says:

    Tom…it is real…and growing. Some prepare for what they conclude from science…some put their heads in the sand (you know who you are). Look up, already.

  66. mark2001 Says:

    Tom..that is like saying…don’t test students in school, because we don’t want to know who failed to learn the material. Just pretend they are all OK. That, and no Covid testing, sounds like some darned Liberal idea.

  67. unbelievable Says:

    Preventative medicine and healthy lifestyles are concepts that simply evade most Americans. And our medical system is fed part of that problem. All we do is react and treat, instead of teaching people to be healthy and prevent this stuff.

    Well, we had a former First Lady who tried to make kids healthier, but a certain side of the aisle b!tched and moaned that their freedoms were being trampled on simply for someone suggesting that consuming 1800 calories (per meal) of corn syrup, saturated fat and total crap from Applebee’s or McDonald’s isn’t a healthy way to live. The horror!

    Also how is anyone surprised that Florida is spiking? All the states that didn’t take this seriously are seeing huge rises in numbers.

    Keep burying your heads in the sand though. Maybe sand can kill it off lol.

  68. Bush's Coke Straw Says:

    mark2001 Says:
    “Bush..the “second wave” talk is based upon what was seen in the last pandemic in 1918.”
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    Doesn’t it seem strange to you that all of a sudden, we are looking back over 100 years to a singular, unique event, for precedent on how we are supposed to act today?

    Do you know what happened in 1918 that is similar to today? In 1918, we were in the throws of WWI, and militaries in multiple theaters turned on powerful ground-based search radar for the first time. In order to help defend against aerial attacks, a side effect was that we saturated populations with high levels of radio frequency radiation that humans were completely unfamiliar with.

    Today, it just so happens that we are rolling out nationwide 5G cellular networks that are utilizing frequencies that, again, our bodies are completely unfamiliar with, and our corporations and governments refuse to perform human safety studies before doing so. Why would they not want to pause and do so?

  69. Bush's Coke Straw Says:

    Bucsfanman said:
    “Industrial Medical Complex”
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    Who just so happen to be the largest source of revenue for the mainstream media studios. I wonder if they steer the message at all? LOL

  70. mark2001 Says:

    Bush…have you studied the 1918 pandemic, or at least seen the PBS program regarding the 1918 pandemic? What are you basing your theory on but for speculation? A second wave involving pandemics isn’t an unusual thing, for the reasons I stated, among others. We become complacent…we let our guard down… and opportunity presents itself. And sometimes that second wave ends up being more lethal than the first wave. Let’s hope not.

    SARs, Swine Flu, Bird Flu, Ebola.. new diseases aren’t as unusual as you think. This one hit the jackpot… highly communicable, and delivered in a political environment where a significant amount of the population refuses to believe it is more than the common flu. And that is why America is Greatly Ill Again, when it comes to this disease.

  71. firethecannons Says:

    the nfl players are probably glad to get covid out of the way early before the season.

  72. Bush's Coke Straw Says:

    @mark2001
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    I ask again. Why do they refuse to do safety testing. Government regulations require safety testing, yet nobody is enforcing those regulations.

    The scientific method requires open and honest debate. Always has. Yet, if you ask these questions you get canceled off of social media. That’s not how science, or America, ever worked before. That’s not the scientific method. You don’t want to know why censorship is replacing honest debate and safety standards?

  73. mark2001 Says:

    Bush…there has been censorship on this issue..since all pronouncements by the agencies designed to protect us were funnelled through the highest levels of our government before they would say what they thought or made observations. Early predictions of few cases and deaths were almost comical,…and that was because if you didn’t tow the party line, you were kicked off the task force and silenced. Now we don’t want to test because if we don’t, we won’t have to talk about new cases. If we don’t count tourists or those that die for the Covid infection, we won’t blame it on the disease. If we silence those that disagree with us, we can put someone in place to say what we wish. That is what is going on in our government. Yet some ignore that, and act like independent scientists from all over the world and medical professionals are conspiring to trick up. In fact, it is just the opposite.

  74. mark2001 Says:

    Bush…clarification…if we don’t test those that die, to see if they had the infection but we don’t know it, we won’t know if they died of the disease or not. And US rather than UP in the second to the last sentence.