“Suh Perhaps Shouldn’t Have Been On The Bucs’ Short List”

May 23rd, 2019

Bad influence?

Buckle up.

One respected journalist covering the Bucs believes blending new Bucs defensive lineman Ndamukong Suh and his notorious on-field reputation into the locker room may just be the football equivalent of dumping ice cold water into a pan of simmering olive oil.

Be careful of the potential combustion, writes Jenna Laine of ESPN. She thinks the Bucs may rue the day they booted former stud defensive tackle Gerald McCoy and replaced him with Suh.

Suh also has a reputation of going against everything the Bucs have been trying to build in their locker room from a culture standpoint. Suh’s reputation as a dirty player and questionable teammate is well documented. General manager Jason Licht has acknowledged publicly that the Bucs have needed to do a better job of vetting players in terms of personality.

Considering Chris Baker’s apathy after his goal-line penalty cost them a win over the Carolina Panthers and DeSean Jackson’s tardiness in meetings — that’s a fair self-assessment. … Suh perhaps shouldn’t have been on the Bucs’ short list. The Bucs certainly wouldn’t have made the move if he’ll make as much as McCoy would have, but is saving a few million truly worth it when it includes a major headache?

Suh was once suspended two games for stomping on former Green Bay Packers offensive lineman Evan Smith, who is now with the Bucs. How will that go over? The only way this works is by having a coach like Bruce Arians — who once had a gun pulled on him as a bartender in college — with a strong enough personality to manage the Bucs’ personalities.

Laine even used NextGen stats produced by the NFL that demonstrates GMC is a better pass rusher than Suh.

This is all very interesting to Joe.

First, if malcontent wide receiver DeSean Jackson had only been guilty of “tardiness” the dude would still be here. Jackson pulled all kinds of stunts behind the scenes that were far, far worse than being late to meetings — and Joe continues to hear more stories from folks on the inside of One Buc Palace as recently as yesterday. Jackson had several episodes of nonsense, insubordination (on the field of play, on the practice fields and inside One Buc Palace) and explicit acts of mutiny.

Laine’s reasoned points tell Joe that signing Suh may not fully be the call of Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht.

As Laine points out in the story, after getting burned by Jackson and offsides-jumping, Lightning-trolling, belly-shirt-wearing, practice-hating, kicker-heckling, tree-grinding , non-contact-football-loving, chicken-wings-grilling, playing-time-squawking, TV-cooking-star, half-sack Swaggy Baker, one would think Licht would be skittish about bringing in dudes with baggage like Suh.

This suggests either Arians or Bowles (or both) demanded Suh.

81 Responses to ““Suh Perhaps Shouldn’t Have Been On The Bucs’ Short List””

  1. BlogTalkFootball.com Says:

    I guess it is BA and TB’s jobs on the line. They will do what they believe to be the best move to help their own cause.

    Let’s hope it is the right move.

  2. NOSBOS Says:

    2nd most tackles for lost last five years,behind only Aaron Donald. Screw what y’all got to say.

  3. Eric Says:

    Obviously Gerald’s leadership will be missed.

    He definitely got the rest of the defense to sell out and give it their all.

    Suh, who played on a super bowl defense last year, is an obvious malcontent.

  4. NOSBOS Says:

    In case it’s not apparent outside of a turnover a tackle for lost is my favorite defensive stat. All Hail King Suh.

  5. NOSBOS Says:

    If you go thru the archives you will find my gripe on 93 was his lack of tackles for lost. All Hail King Suh.

  6. Buc1987 Says:

    I’m not defending Suh, but wasn’t all this “dirty player” stuff from like a 1000 yrs ago. I guess it never goes away.

  7. Buc1987 Says:

    Eric …lol that’s the pathetic narrative at JBF headquarters these days. There’s no narrative. McCoy was a good player. Suh is a good player. McCoy’s defenses were crap and his leadership didn’t seem to matter. Suh is a wild card because of his attitude and track record. –Joe
    McCoy’s a stud and we’ll be missed.
    Suh will be hated from the get go. Or should be anyways.

  8. Buc1987 Says:


  9. Morgus the Magnificent Says:

    A disaster in waiting

  10. Dcommand Says:

    McCoy maybe back after he gets a fair estimate of his worth in free agency. Stranger things have happened. If his best offer is 7 to 8 million the bucs may find he’s worth that price.

  11. 813bucboi Says:

    nice guys come in last and never make the playoffs……

    just ask GMC…..

    GO BUCS!!!!

  12. Doolnutts Says:

    There is no doubt this was BA & Bowles imo. BA has publically called out McCoy for months. So far when BA speaks things happen. He is a very honest and upfront coach from what we have seen so far. The two biggest examples I think are when he blew peoples lids off by saying Barber was our lead back and proceeding not to draft a single replacement and then when he said McCoy is a good player just not at his cap number. We need to stop speculating and start listening to what BA has to say. He has been very upfront with us so far, which I find to be a refreshing change.

  13. NOSBOS Says:

    disaster waiting to happen.. Yea for opposing Olines.

  14. DBS Says:

    Don’t give me all the Super Bowl carp. We have heard it all and seen it all before. Just because they were there does not mean they will not come here for the vacation and check.

  15. FowlBall Says:

    Jenna Laine and ESPN? Respected source? How do you say “no” in Spanish?

    Why would anyone pay a scintilla of attention to outsiders of this ilk? Possibly because one doesn’t have a clue of his own?

  16. BringBucsBack Says:

    I wonder if her “beats his block” stat accounts for the run plays where one O-lineman engaged Gerald long enough to use his momentum from his “quick get off” and simply shove him out of the play?

  17. ToesOnTheLine!!! Says:

    It’s a moot point. The Bucs needed salary cap relief. McCoy presumably wouldn’t take less money (fwiw I don’t blame him). The Bucs moved on and got a less expensive player with a career of roughly similar on field production. I’m positive if McCoy would have agreed to a similar contract as the one Suh is allegedly getting he’d still be a Buc and Suh wouldn’t.

  18. NOSBOS Says:

    Yaasss 😁get some nasty around this mutha. Prolly intimidate some of you so much you wouldn’t ask for an autograph.

  19. Marine Buc Says:

    Jenna Laine is a JOKE!!! What in the hell does she know? McCoy needed to go. Obviously Suh comes with his own set of issues but I welcome his “attitude” to this pathetic locker room…

  20. Eric y Says:

    Evan smith already acknowledged that suh apologized for the incident …. joe stop instigating crap… your a trouble maker for real

  21. RTG Bucs Says:

    Suh may prove to be a bad pickup but we were going no where with McCoy that is for sure and has been proven by the last nine years. It is certainly worth the risk.

  22. NOSBOS Says:

    See the issue with most here is you folks equate great DLine play with only sack production. Silly rabbits. The other facet of DLine play is tackles. In that category the comparison ceases.

  23. Waterboy Says:

    I agree with Ian Beckles in saying Gerald McCoy is a local media is darling down there and gets a pass because he’s such a nice guy.

  24. NOSBOS Says:

    But I get the 93 love and the King Suh concern. When you show those gums as much as one does they alright wit you. When you walk around with a stone face all the time they feel a little weary.

  25. Lamarcus Says:

    With articles like this I’m even more happy GMC. Now you see what is really happening

  26. Duthsty Rhothdes Says:

    too many lap dawg reporters in this town that are butt hurt because a “good guy” in gmc is leaving town. Jenna no one cares if GMC bought you sushi for lunch one time, the bucs need wins and maybe suh “the bad guy” sparks something in this bottom feeding organization. The lap dawg reporters in this town need to start questioning & calling out the glazers for this crap they expect us to watch year after year, and this year is going to be another 5-11 year

  27. Lamarcus Says:

    GMC gone

  28. Waterboy Says:

    It’s a 1 yr contract and it was already obvious McCoy wasn’t the answer. So let’s say the defense gets worse and don’t have much further to drop because they’re already at the bottom.

  29. Todd Says:

    Who gives a crap. Opinions are like a$$holes, everyone has one. Some commenters in here seem to have two or three. Good Lord, PLEASE move on from this McCoy vs. the Suh-fields lone of articles.

    We get it. McCoy was great, I mean he sucked. Suh is astonishing, I mean he’s going to destroy our locker room.

    Message presented…again and again and again. Message received…again and again and again.

    @joes…tap those journalistic talents of yours and come up with an article that leaves this story line in the rear view mirror. Surely you’re capable.

    Move on. Next Article Up!!!

  30. Joe Says:

    What in the hell does she know?

    Quite a bit. She has excellent sources.

  31. Ndog Says:

    Here comes the smear campaign cause their favorite sound bite boy is gone.

  32. THETRUTH Says:

    Joe do you have anything positive to ever report. Seems like you just knock players or coaches

  33. Bird Says:

    So all the analysts . And by all , I mean everyone on every channel are wrong. Cause they all are saying the same thing “Suh plays when he wants to “ but they are all wrong. Great talent with a 2 cent head that is waiting to explode. They are payed to watch every game and research every player on every team.

    Again. They are wrong.

    And the posters here on JBF who hated mccoy so badly are right.
    Mean is good. Being a dik makes you a better player.

    Let’s hope arians and his psychology degree can keep Suh productive and focused. And I hope for his health at 66 years old that he is careful to call out Suh like he has with other players. Cause suh does not care about one player ( including his own teammates ) or one coach. Suh cares about Suh. Suh is already focused on his next paycheck. Think he cares if bucs go 5-11 or 11-5

    Every team he has ever been on wants him out of dodge right away
    Don’t you find it interesting that LA rams wanted no part of him and are now interested in McCoy.

  34. webster Says:

    Jenna laine? Who cares what she thinks. She ask the most and dumbest questions at every press conference. I think you can tell the players, coaches and gm want to tell her to shut up. I know i do and im not even being asked the dumb @$$ question

  35. Bird Says:

    THe only reason the Bucs are taking a flyer on him cause JPP ain’t playing this year …maybe ever

    If Jpp not involved in accident , Suh is not a buc.
    Jpp can play inside /outside wherever.
    Now down 2 contributors they were forced to give Suh a deal

  36. SCBucsFan Says:

    Nah, I trust MarineBuc and his cutting edge analysis over Jenna Laine. Who, you know, does it for her job.

  37. NOSBOS Says:

    It remains funny to me people saying this defense is already at the bottom. I’m waiting for one of you to show your proof. Maybe you have a time machine and took a trip into the future. If you haven’t then like Jim Carey you’re talking out your @$$. Because last years defense has no bearing in this year’s defense. Prolly be something like 8 new starters.

  38. Marine Buc Says:

    @ Joe

    Come on man! Like she knows more about Suh than the rest of us? She has sources? Who cares. Everyone knows Suh is a prick. Who cares? Maybe this team needs a prick! JPP is gone and we needed someone with attitude on the D-line and it definitely was not Gerold “ Mr. Nice Guy” McCoy.

  39. Steven007 Says:

    This smells like when we signed an aging Haynesworth. I hope I’m wrong.

  40. Eric Says:

    As Michael Corleone told Sony when proposing gunning down a police captain. “Its strictly business, nothing personal”.

    That’s all this is, business and money.

    I’m not a McCoy hater, the man gave it his all from what I can see. His demeanor wasn’t much different than the late Lee Roy Selmon. That’s his personality. He didn’t make the crappy draft pics or bad FA signings – nor did he decide what defense we would run.

    But he simply wasn’t worth what it would have taken to pay his contract this year, and if we had done that the team would have suffered.

    Go bucs.

  41. NOSBOS Says:

    007 had Hayeworth been #2 in tackles for lost the previous five years???

  42. down in the dirt doug Says:

    We have endlessly complained that the Bucs are soft We are tired of players acting like they are members of a country club.So Bruce is attempting to build a fast ,bad ass team.I say”lets get a few more bad ass mfers.I am not going to cry if we win two or ten games.Thanks for your effort BA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  43. Todd Says:


    At this point, it “smells” like what you want to INTERPRET it to smell like. You can opt for sh!t or baked chocolate chip cookies.

    I think it smells like BA and TB know what they’re doing.

    Smells like WINNING to me.

    But if you prefer sh!t, well God bless America. It’s your nasal passage.

  44. Steven007 Says:

    NOS, Suh is better than Albert ever was. But we’re getting them at about the same age. And of course they’re both famous for stomping on people. and both are well known for playing when they want to. Like I said I hope I’m wrong.

  45. Steven007 Says:

    Todd, the truth is neither one of us knows at this point what we’re getting in Suh. I HOPE BA and TB know what they’re doing. Just like I hoped DK and company knew what they were doing (they didn’t) and LS and company knew what they were doing (they didn’t). Etc, etc. No brain trust and coaching staff has known what it’d doing here since 2002. That’s what it smells like to me. So if it smells like winning to you than it times to play the lotto, brother.

  46. alaskanbuccaneers Says:

    calling all real BUCS fans….get a cold beer relax and let the new coaching staff do their jobs,let all the reporters talk and we can just wait and see until real football begin…….GO BUCS!

  47. Greg Says:

    One thing to consider is that we have not actually signed Suh yet! It was supposed to have been done Tuesday and has yet to be finalized. If we got rid of McCoy and Sue does not sign where does that leave us?

  48. Jeffbuc Says:

    Man this is a lot of negativity being reported today about suh. You would think a local bucs site would be finding good stories about are newest buc. Putting out articles about his career better stats over McCoy. How he is second in tackles by defensive lineman over the last 5 years. But know joe wants to make try and make this guy a villain and hated for taking McCoy place. Hello! Joe likes the Suh signing. Couldn’t afford McCoy, who probably was a one-more-year player and added a similar guy at less pay. And Suh represents a culture change. But the No. 1 problem the Bucs have had with free agents is guys mailing it in. Joe’s not going to ignore quality people weighing in on that very important subject. Joe isn’t trying to tell any fan how to think or feel about Suh. –Joe

    But it is t working by reading the comments. Seems like all the fans are happy. Becasue we have all been screaming for bad ass football players not nice guys. Like I said who do you think the nfc qbs would rather face twice a year McCoy or suh. Joe you know the answer. They don’t want the guy that when they hit them might oil check them or say things about there mom. Instead of McCoy saying sorry mr Brees didn’t mean to hit you let me help you up so I can exert my energy picking people up all game. Then have to come out in the fourth quarter because I’m gassed from picking guys on the other team up all game. Like Jim Carrey in the mask said nice guys finish last. And McCoy has finished in last place how many times in 9 years.

  49. Greg Says:

    everybody overreact to every move. There are a lot of other moves coming. We have been through this before where we hated Jason light at one point in the off-season and then love them by the time this season started. In the words of Aaron Rodgers relax!

  50. LakeLand Says:

    In have said it a thousand times
    I wouldn’t sign Suh for the league minimum

    Enough said

  51. gotbbucs Says:

    Until the organization announces the signing this is pointless to discuss.

  52. pelbuc Says:

    These articles are meaningless. Suh will be a one year rental like Baker, JPP, kickers and so many other of Licht’s failed FA attempts.

  53. webster Says:

    Joe why does my post not show up? You have never blocked me?

  54. LakeLand Says:

    **I have said it**

  55. RustyRhinos Says:

    Hey, THETRUTH.
    Joe only writes about what interests him if we do not like it we can(and do) go to other sites. I agree with you, on the mostly negative swing around here but it it his sand box and his ball.

  56. Destinjohnny Says:

    Mccoy would have played for 8 million

  57. Youngbucs Says:

    So let’s see indomican Suh has 17 wins more than McCoy Moore stats in every category except for two sacks and has played for three different teams and we’re worried about his effort and team-building skills wins are the only stats that matter and from what I see he helps his team’s win regardless of the attitude

  58. D-Rome Says:

    Laine even used NextGen stats produced by the NFL that demonstrates GMC is a better pass rusher than Suh.

    Only a fool would argue Suh is a better pass rusher than McCoy.

  59. Youngbucs Says:

    Let’s not forget we are down a defensive end in jpp and McCoy cannot play defensive end in a 3-4 he would have been a joke trying to do that more than him trying to win games for us

  60. anderson Says:

    Jason licht actually does something to help the defensive line and all we are doing is critizing him, I don’t get it Suh fits this defense so much better than McCoy, I think McCoy is a great person who had glimpses of being a great player at times but lets not forget the fact that he has been a member of the worst defense in the league for the last two years. change needed to be made after watching McCoy for the last 9 years he did his best now time to move on,

    go bucs

  61. Youngbucs Says:

    Suh is a vicous hybrid that is good at run defense yes better than McCoy in fact way better now that’s not to say McCoy is a bum he has what it takes as well he just has to get more of that vicious mentality it Suh has other than that I see both tackles as well polished defenders but both are old so let’s not get ahead of ourselves like Suh is going to be our savior this year after all according to Joe that’s all on Devin white shoulders

  62. Lord Cornelius Says:

    “everything the Bucs have been trying to build in their locker room from a culture standpoint”



    Seriously. What in gods name have we been building in terms of some culture?


    My god.

  63. Svenson Says:

    This isn’t about personalities. It is about the fact that GMC had 3 years at 13 mil per year left on his deal. The Bucs just replaced him with a comparable player for on a one year deal that creates some cap relief this year and cleared 3 years and 39 million in cap hits. It was a sound move even if McCoy is a slightly better pass rusher or a way better dude. The Bucs cap situation, which includes McCoy’s contract, already limited the Bucs’ ability to add in free agency this year. Don’t want that to be the case going forward!

  64. Maze Says:

    I’ll take Arians football opinion over Laine anyday and twice on Sundays lol

  65. Youngbucs Says:

    You know all of us being armchair critics right now it’s pretty much just disrespectful to Todd bowles and what he’s trying to do you know he is the one that needs Suh it’s well-known that both Arians and Todd bowles like Suh and how he can be a chess piece to be moved around the line we got Vita vea to stop the run and I believe he’ll excel at it and even rush the passer as well count your blessings buc fans

  66. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    “Suh’s reputation as a dirty player and questionable teammate is well documented.”

    Well, Jensen isn’t dirty like Suh, but he’s mean. I don’t have a problem so long as it doesn’t cost us games.

    That said…going to be interesting with pads on in practice. Suh vs Evans…

  67. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Dcommand Says
    “McCoy maybe back after he gets a fair estimate of his worth in free agency. Stranger things have happened. If his best offer is 7 to 8 million the bucs may find he’s worth that price.”

    LOL. TMax would have a meltdown. I would love to see that.

  68. Buccfan37 Says:

    I don’t listen to what a woman says about men’s football anyway.

  69. donuts Says:

    Suh hasnt been suspended since 2014. At what point, do we say maybe he has matured? I like Jenna but she has been playing this narrative on Twitter too and to be frank the evidence does not support the degree of concern she is stating the Bucs should have. The nextgen stats are not the only measurement of a DL and where are the stats against the run and tackles of RB in vicinity? I assume they didnt favor her stance so they were not used. I know those stats dont favor GMC due to the number of RB I saw run through his gap assignment the past 3 years.

    I agree 100% with BA on changing the culture/GMC. We have the right coach for Suh in Bowles.

  70. Nick2 Says:

    Nice guys finish last and Gerald McCoy is the perfect case in point. Jenna Lane i guess is going to miss her lockerroom buddy whatever. Suh is a good teammate I could care less what he does to the opposition. We need more of that mentality not more of McCoy’s “let me help you up” , “sorry i hit you Ben” garbage.

  71. Bucsdelight Says:

    This reminds me of Albert Haynesworth. It is going to be bad.

  72. stvcl Says:

    Jenna: “The Bucs may rue the day”…maybe. But this Bucs fan is ecstatic he’s gone. I never want to see anyone on defense helping an opposing player up. Turn your back on the dude and get back in the huddle with your teammates and give a congrats to the player that put him on the ground.

  73. westernbuc Says:

    Hey Joe, remember when Licht had the chance to trade Desean last year?

    Say whatever you want about Koetter, how the heck does Licht still have a job?

  74. stpetebucsfan Says:

    So the debate rages! They were selected ONE spot apart in the draft. Their careers have been similar…Suh a better run stuffer…McCoy a better pass rusher…and Suh has played on better TEAMS!

    They are NOT that different!!! This is virtually an even swap. It’s not going to make a huge difference. We filled a hole with GMC’s departure and we saved money. That’s it.

    Suh can become a solid part of this defense but he’s not going to be the “difference”. White has a far better shot at really being a game changer.

  75. Defense Rules Says:

    Joe … I’m heartened to hear that you liked the Suh signing. I’ve been out of touch for a little bit, but when DID Suh officially sign on? I was getting concerned that he was gonna leave us standing at the altar with the typical ‘What did we do wrong?” Bucs look on our faces. If any player based his signing on comments on JBF.com then I doubt we’d ever get any new FAs. I’m even surprised now that half our rookie class didn’t opt to accept baseball contracts instead of sign on here.

    I was lukewarm about the Suh signing at first, but the more I look at it the more it makes sense. Bucs were horrible against the pass (26th in Yards Allowed & 30th in TDs Allowed) but we were almost as bad against the run (24th in Yards Allowed & 29th in TDs Allowed). And that was with GMC playing in the middle for about 80% of the defensive downs in the 14 games he played in. GMC brought a lot to the table over the years IMO, but not last year. His 17 solo tackles in 14 games (plus 11 assists) isn’t very impressive to me. Especially considering that opposing teams ran an average of almost 27 times per game (not all over the middle obviously).

    Bucs simply have to get stouter against the run, especially as Todd Bowles introduces more 3-4 looks. Vea, Suh & Allen give us some beef on the trenches, and we need that big-time. We’ve got a very young Back-7 (or Back-8, who knows?) and without a solid DLine that young backfield would be in trouble. We MAY still need someone to replace JPP, but the Bucs have plenty of time to figure that out.

  76. Rod Munch Says:

    Calling Laine a “respected journalist” is pushing it a bit. I don’t dislike her, but her opinion on things is generally the furthest thing from an original take or being interesting or being in depth.

    Also while I think the Bucs should have done more to keep McCoy, I do like replacing him with Suh, if they think Suh is going to do more than just be a big fatso in the mold of Baker. I don’t care if he’s a cheapshot artist, let him make Brees and Ryan and Cam think he’s going to clip their ankles, I have no issue with it (however don’t do it since they’ll respond by taking out Winston).

    Anywho if the Bucs defense is improved, and how won’t it by just getting rid of Mike Smith, Chris Conte and hopefully Ryan Smith, all these dummies will be saying how McCoy was the issue. That’s what stupid people do.

  77. VA Tom Says:

    The funny part is the non fan trolls on here who muttered on about McCoy will all change their handles to Suuhshbag and complain about him. Whatever. Play the damn game, go home when it’s over, be successful player. That’s all anyone real fan wants to see.

  78. ElioT Says:

    We get it… JBF loved McCoy, and most real fans didn’t hate him either, we just saw what we saw and it was time for him to go.

    This is the time for sensationalist journalism, I get it, but Jenna’s take is just so far off base, it’s laughable.

    *Who gives a flying f**K what the back-up C/G Evan Smith thinks of the Suh signing? – I’d bet even Smith himself doesn’t care and is probably a fan. If he does care, then maybe that will push him to beat out whatever RG they decide to put at the top of the draft chart so he can get a crack at Suh during 1st Team practice.

    Raise your hand if you’ve ever been in a fight with someone, duked it out, and then decided to bury the hatchet like real men after someone got beat?



    I’m not trying to compare the Bucs’ “Glory Days” defense to this squad as our society (ballplayers included) has changed so much in large part due to social media.

    But holy crap, go back and watch some highlight videos of Sapp, Brooks, Lynch, Barber, Alstott, etc…

    Not saying you can replicate or ever expect to come close to catching lightning in the jar as they did back then, but…

    Hall of Fame talen aside, these were real football players and real men who refused to lose!!!

    That’s what this weak-a** team has been missing for so long!!!!!

    I don’t care if Suh’s stats aren’t in the paper, as long as he does his job. Have a bad attitude and make any other young dudes on the defense dread stepping in the showers after giving up or loafing on a play that decided the game.

    So sick of this pansy, weak and embarrassing mentality.

    Chris Farley said it best – “Get tough Nancy Boy”

  79. ElioT Says:

    I respect McCoy, I really do.

    Let me ask everyone here one question:

    – If you were about to brawl in an alley by a couple of knuckleheads, who would you rather have by your side… McCoy or Suh?

    If you say McCoy, I guarantee you’ve never been in a real fight before (or else your some BJJ or Boxing practitioner who could just take both guys out anyway).

    Down in and down out, you’re in a fight in those trenches, where physical and mental toughness is very important.

  80. ElioT Says:


    Hey Joes,

    Why don’t you post some guidelines on what we can and cannot say on JBF.com? – I didn’t say anything to offend anyone.

    Perhaps your antiquated hosting platform doesn’t allow for any such coding?

    Step your game up, please!

    We all love it here but sooner obviously but sooner or later you guys are going to be obsolete and someone else is going to take your concept to the next level. – I hope this doesn’t happen but please stop deleting non-offensive posts via personal bias.

  81. Mayhem41 Says:

    See PewterProphet’s above statement, he is exactly right. Laine is a reporter, her “sources” aren’t worth a hill of beans in this instance. She is offering analysis of Suh as a player when she has never served as a scout, coach or front office in any capacity. Her opinion on this matter, using instances which occurred years ago, is of little significance and carries no more weight than many that have posted in this thread.