Fast & Fitting In
May 15th, 2019
“Jason, our picks are killin’ it.”
The Buccaneers drafted what they hope(d) are three highly aggressive and fast defensive backs to play in Todd Bowles’ attack, blitz-heavy defense.
That aggression already has shown up.
Day 1 of OTA practice wrapped up yesterday and twice Bucco Bruce Arians said he liked the speed of the session.
Joe asked Arians who reflected that pace he likes. He went right to the rookies.
“I think all the young kids jumped out there right away and didn’t look like they had not been here and looked like they fit right in,” Arians replied. “I was really impressed with Devin [White’s] interception. You know, all those young guys have such good ball skills. Turnovers is something that we really preach about and we got some today.”
Combine that quote with Vernon Hargreaves landing in Arians’ doghouse yesterday, and Arians is sending quite an early message to veteran players.
May 15th, 2019 at 11:41 am
Of course he liked the rookies…they are all his guys! lol
May 15th, 2019 at 11:46 am
Same was said about Hargreaves….Spence….etc. Hargreaves cant even do whatever basics are required at this point to even step on the practice field. That’s our 1st rd CB that’s now a nickel CB watching practice from the sidelines because he’s already in the doghouse with the coaching staff.
May 15th, 2019 at 11:49 am
Looks like the stress is going directly to Jason’s waistline….Nutrisystems commercials after his career with the Bucs next year
May 15th, 2019 at 11:54 am
Jason looks more like a member of the grounds crew than the GM of a multi-million dollar operation!.
May 15th, 2019 at 12:02 pm
Bobby M management 101 is to put a veteran (like VHIII) on notice for forgetting how hungry he was as a rookie. The whole team will notice. If it wasn’t him it would have been someone else. Will be forgotten and VHIII will be judged on how he plays.
May 15th, 2019 at 12:03 pm
Bonzai… it also helps that they are actually in position to make plays on the ball instead of getting burnt to a crisp by tryout players like MJ Stewart was last season.
May 15th, 2019 at 12:09 pm
“Underwear Football”
May 15th, 2019 at 12:09 pm
Hargreaves probably showed up stoned and the coaches noticed.
May 15th, 2019 at 12:10 pm
SCBucsFan Says:
May 15th, 2019 at 12:02 pm
Bobby M management 101 is to put a veteran (like VHIII)
a veteran… that is laughable. the short, slow, stupid, fragile over-draffted by 6 rounds has played in 10 freaking games… and was burnt and embarrassed himself in each and everyone of them… vh3bust is an immature punk with no talent and not enough common sense to do the right thing at the first mini camp. there is no defending this clown even from one of the board members of the delusional optimists club like yourself. if vh3bust sees the field during regular season games you can guarantee another basement title. there is no cure for short, fragile, slow an d stupid….
May 15th, 2019 at 12:18 pm
tmax – is the capitals button on your keyboard broken or are you just uneducated? Judging by your post I’m quite sure I know the answer. Hurry upstairs, Mommy has your lunch and juice box ready.
May 15th, 2019 at 12:20 pm
Dean,Bunting and Edwards were said to be running step for step with ME,Chris and Breshard. If they are capable of staying with our guys they can run with and WR Corp in this league. God bless all those young fresh legs.
May 15th, 2019 at 12:21 pm
To The Joe(s):
“Why do you build me up, buttercup baby just to let me down……”
May 15th, 2019 at 12:23 pm
I stated days after the draft I didn’t quite get people penciling inn Davis and VH as day 2 starters. Like someone said in an above post “these are BA’s guys”.. In less they look like deer in the headlights (which early signs say they don’t) they starting week 1. The takeaways from the Bucs app Dean,Bunting and Edwards were with the first team.
May 15th, 2019 at 12:25 pm
Kevin minter said this is a easy defense to learn. LVD said the same yesterday. This system requires athleticism. LVD raved about Devin’s day 1 communication. These dudes ahead of the curve.
May 15th, 2019 at 12:27 pm
No one on the D should feel safe about their job or status. No one is proven and everyone has been part of the losing.
CLEAN THIS UP
Average ish defense +
Average ish run game +
Average ish special teams+
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Winston’s best season and a playoff birth.
In no year has Winston had an average team around him when it comes to the culmination of a run game / defense / special teams
2015: solid run game but horrific defense & special teams (27th in yards / 31st in points given up / 30th in FG % made).
2016: average defense (23rd in yards / 15th in points allowed) but horrific run game / horrific special teams (24th in rush yards per game / 29th in YPA / 29th in rushing TDs / 32nd in FG % made)
STILL IN 2016 – WITH AVERAGE DEFENSE AND HORRIBLE EVERYTHING ELSE WE HAD 9 WINS. TEAM GAME. DEFENSE MATTERS A LOT!!!!!!
2017-2018 – we know the story: horrific defense / horrific run game / horrific special teams.
Meanwhile for 4 years the only thing this team has done well is pass the ball.
Yes we’ve turned it over too much as well, but as I’ve charted MANY times, most of those turnovers come in huge bunches in big losses where our D gets super shredded early and we are down at least 2-3 TDs by the 2nd quarter or halftime.
It’s why I don’t get the obsession with QB play for this team. QB/WR/TE play has BY FAR been the best positional performances on this team the last 4 years. E
May 15th, 2019 at 12:29 pm
The caption for that photo should be, “Gump, are you really as dumb as they say you are?”
May 15th, 2019 at 12:31 pm
Yep the Jets were such a great defense last year with better players than the bucs have currently and we are to expect bowles to coach a lesser talented group and get better results? The NFC South is getting nervous
May 15th, 2019 at 12:35 pm
Someone should tell Licht that he’s killing it along with all of us.
May 15th, 2019 at 12:38 pm
Dusthty Rhothdes was Bowles the defensive coordinator for the Jets last year?
May 15th, 2019 at 12:40 pm
From the reports I am hearing, Vernon Hargreaves did nothing wrong but is coming off an injury (other than his shoulder). Arian was just making a public statement that Hargreaves needs to get his mind right while he is sitting out injured so he can come back mentally ready.
May 15th, 2019 at 12:49 pm
THE SUCCANEERS DRAFT WILL BE A HUGE BUST, THIS TEAM WILL GET DESTROYED THIS SEASON AND BE VERY LUCKY TO WIN A GAME
May 15th, 2019 at 12:52 pm
Was Dirk Koetter the OC for the bucs last year? You have to be out of your mind if the HC does not have their thumb on everything esp their area of expertise that got them a job esp when it may be the end for them. A title does not always mean much it is just used to get a higher pay and for purposes of not getting poached from other teams without compensation. Eric Bienemy has OC by his name in KC as did doug pedersen but andy reid calling the plays there. Sean Mcvay had an OC in LA, got a new HC job in Cincy, but he was calling the plays….titles do not mean jack squat
May 15th, 2019 at 1:01 pm
cant wait until the pads come on….
GO BUCS!!!!
May 15th, 2019 at 1:06 pm
sorry
i meant
Fire Licht Tonight!
May 15th, 2019 at 1:34 pm
Succaneers Says:
May 15th, 2019 at 12:49 pm
THE SUCCANEERS DRAFT WILL BE A HUGE BUST, THIS TEAM WILL GET DESTROYED THIS SEASON AND BE VERY LUCKY TO WIN A GAME
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LOL..you should post here…not because you don’t whatever the Buccaneers …but you are so bad at creating a post…I suggest a new screen name for you “Special Ed”
May 15th, 2019 at 1:43 pm
“This defense has been average” what are you clairvoyant or some s&@;. To my knowledge no one has seen our defense yet. Do y’all think before y’all press send???
May 15th, 2019 at 1:45 pm
Now if you said “this defense up to this point has been average “ you would be accurate. But our current defense to this point is a mystery. But that b$&@ fina be raw. Make no mistake about it.
May 15th, 2019 at 1:45 pm
Just read @nfl projected starters. Man a lot of questions to be answer on camp.
May 15th, 2019 at 2:00 pm
Our defense this year just needs to be a notch below league average which would equate to a 3 plus wins compared to last year. A better run blocking scheme tailored to the strengths of the OL (power blocking) would reduce the number of pass plays called and increase effectiveness of play action resulting in fewer turnovers.
With a few bounces our way and one or two rookies being able to contribute this year would give us a possible wild card playoff spot.
May 15th, 2019 at 2:06 pm
It all hinges on Jameis…we all know that….if he can play SMART….and manage the game the team has a chance…if he continues the backyard heroics bonehead plays well then nothing will have changed and a complete overhaul will happen next year…..we all know that
May 15th, 2019 at 2:17 pm
NOSBOS….i know its been tough on you this month celebrating FSU day on 5-7 and then Bucs Day on 5-11….but the bucs will be good soon but don’t get too worked up the bucs are going to be basically the same 5-11 team if not worse in 2019. The offense was top 5 so tough to do much better and defense was bottom and then defense lost its 3 best players so….brace your self for impact
May 15th, 2019 at 2:19 pm
In computer lingo or jargon all caps are used for shouting. Strings of exclamation marks are also forms of shouting or extreme emphasis.
May 15th, 2019 at 2:25 pm
P.S. In many situations their use is extremely rude and overbearing. In some situations their use can be appropriate. Common sense reveals most of the time.
May 15th, 2019 at 2:34 pm
You’ve hit the nail on the head, Lord Cornelius.
The best teams, i.e. play off teams, don’t have to excel in all phases of the game all of the time. That do have to be at least “NFL average” in some aspects and excel in the rest to be winners.
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Go Bucs!!!!!
May 15th, 2019 at 2:45 pm
Hargreaves has no business on an NFL roster. Cant wait for him to be gone. Guess you can’t the star dancer on the team.
May 15th, 2019 at 2:54 pm
Dusthty you must smokin rocks. You folks wouldn’t know talent if it smacked you. This team has split games with the division winner the last two seasons. Do some research on the birds and panthers, they are quietly rebuilding. The margin between last and first in this league is never that huge dude. We going to the Super Bowl and we gone win tha b$&@. Our guys are to young to know it ain’t suppose to happen that fast.
May 15th, 2019 at 2:55 pm
Just looking at the most basic measurables – Its easy to see how much faster and more athletic our Defense became in the first 3 rounds of this year’s draft…
Rookies:
Devin White – 4.42 – 40 yard dash (6’0 240 lb ILB) (39.5″ vertical jump)
Sean Murphy-Bunting – 4.42 (6’1″ CB) (41.5″ vertical)
Jamel Dean – 4.30 (6’1″ CB) (41″ vertical)
Mike Edwards – 4.50 (5’11” Safety) (37″vertical)
Returning “back 7″ Vets:
Lavonte David – 4.65 (6’1″ 233 lb ILB/OLB) (36.5″ vertical)
Shaquil Barrett – 4.73 (6’1″ 250 lb OLB) (29″ vertical)
Kevin Minter – 4.81 (6′ 0 246 lb ILB) (33″ vertical)
Deone Buchanon – 4.55 (6’1″ 211 lb LB/Safety) (36.5″ vertical)
Justin Evans – 4.57 (5’11” Safety) (41″ vertical)
Jordan Whitehead – 4.55 estimated (5′ 11″ Safety) (no vert available)
MJ Stewart – 4.54 (5’11” CB/Safety?) (35″ vertical)
Vernon Hargreaves – 4.50 (5’10” CB) (39″ vertical)
Carlton Davis – 4.53 (6’1″ CB) (34″ vertical)
Ryan Smith – 4.47 (5’11” CB) (36″ vertical)
May 15th, 2019 at 2:56 pm
P.S.S.
Also see the following if you want other opinions on SHOUTING.
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-people-use-multiple-exclamation-marks
May 15th, 2019 at 3:02 pm
TOM EDRINGTON Says:
To The Joe(s):
“Why do you build me up, buttercup baby just to let me down……”
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LOL at the serenade!
May 15th, 2019 at 3:03 pm
I think I have transitioned from “In BA we must trust.” to “In BA we trust.” at this time.
Thanks to you NOSBOS and others. 🙂
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Go Bucs!!!
May 15th, 2019 at 3:05 pm
but but but what about the kicker!?
May 15th, 2019 at 3:29 pm
Pick I think we are now the most athletic team in the entire league. These folks talk defense this and defense that but to my eye it’s going to be at least 6 to 8 new starters.
May 15th, 2019 at 3:46 pm
Senile trust me when I tell you sir. All these mentally weak @$$ posters that spew bull ish in here everyday. All they gone do is change their tags once that season kicks off. I promise you. I wish Joe would somehow store and identify them so we could get back at that time.
May 15th, 2019 at 3:58 pm
The “slowest” of 4 defensive players we drafted this year rds 1>3 (a safety) is just 3/100ths of a second slower than the fastest guy on our entire defense last year…
May 15th, 2019 at 7:28 pm
@ Fowlball , Licht is one hell of a bad dresser and I doubt he can tie a tie !!! Typical sport jacket , tee shirt formal dress clown , he looks like a member of the ground crew even in a sport coat !!! Doesn’t mean a thing as far as GM talent but his actions sure seem to follow his dress ?? Well ! maybe it Does !!