With The 34th Pick In The 2015 NFL Draft
January 16th, 2015
Mock draft season is here and it drives Joe bananas, but it becomes more interesting when a college player shares a mock draft with his Twitter followers.
Defensive end Preston Smith liked what he saw on NFL.com.
The Mississippi State senior shared the first NFL.com mock draft of the season by former Eagles, Browns and Ravens scout Daniel Jeremiah, who pegged the 270-pound, All-SEC pass rusher as the Seahawks’ final pick in the first round.
“PICK NO. 32 SEATTLE. Smith is a versatile defensive lineman and plays with great effort, leverage and quickness” was the description.
Joe can understand why the 22-year-old would be giddy to see his name associated with the Super Bowl champs. However, Joe’s only interest is in the Buccaneers.
Could Smith fall to Tampa Bay, which owns the 34th overall pick? Or would the Bucs consider trading up a bit, if necessary?
Long-armed Smith stands 6-6 or 6-4, depending on what publication you believe. He blossomed as a senior and finished 2014 with nine sacks, and three consecutive SEC Defensive Lineman of the Week honors. The only guy in history to do that.
Joe imagines Lovie Smith will demand the Bucs draft a pass rusher — after a quarterback, hopefully. Michael Johnson was miserable in 2014, and the Bucs’ defense demands a nasty edge rush to be successful. The mere thought of the Bucs relying solely on Johnson to recapture his lost glory makes Joe dry heave.
It was good to see Jeremiah cite Smith playing with great effort. Wouldn’t that be a refreshing change off the right edge.
January 16th, 2015 at 3:04 pm
Well, if we go QB at pick one, we will likely trade Glennon for a 3rd or maybe even a 2nd, so we would have the ammunition to move back up into the first for a pass rusher.
January 16th, 2015 at 3:15 pm
Forget getting a DE before the forth round. We need offensive line in 2 & 3…if there is someone worthy of those picks.
January 16th, 2015 at 3:16 pm
What GM in their right mind would give us a second or third round pic for Glennon. I’d be happy with a seventh and a bag of Cheetos. Look what we got for a proven starter Zuttah.
January 16th, 2015 at 3:17 pm
@SloppyJoe
I agree. More likely, we’ll cut him.
January 16th, 2015 at 3:19 pm
@SloppyJoe
Can you give me an example of QB that put up Glennon’s numbers in his first two seasons and was then traded for less than a third?
January 16th, 2015 at 3:19 pm
Get after the other teams QB with success and fix our Oline that can protect our QB for a few seconds (whoever that might be) and we are on our way with some solid coaching.. Of coarse how good our QB is will be the key on limit of success we can reach..IMHO..
January 16th, 2015 at 3:23 pm
The franchise should be barred from trading up until they’ve been to the NFC Championship game….they have mortgaged their future so often they are upside down and standing on their head and the bottom of the NFL !
January 16th, 2015 at 3:27 pm
@SloppyJoe
Also, what we got for Zuttah isn’t the determining factor of trade value, it’s what we were willing to take for him. I agree, the Zuttah trade was stupid.
But a third-year Mike Glennon would be more valuable than any QB that could be drafted in the third round this year. If we trade Glennon for less than a third, Licht should be fired on the spot.
January 16th, 2015 at 3:29 pm
You guys are going to feel like fools when we get a 2nd or 3rd for Glennon…he is a young, somewhat experienced, inexpensive QB with two more years on his contract in a weak QB draft…..there are probably only 4 QBs that will go in the top two rounds….and the first two will likely go 1 & 2.
Bucs & Tenn will take them.
Other teams perhaps in need are Jets, Bills, Rams, Cardinals, Bears, Texams & perhaps even the Broncos…..
The crop of FAs are also weak & perhaps more expensive….
There are many teams who have decent Olines and some weapons that could plug Glennon in…..or at least he is a serviceable backup.
His value is greater now than it was when he was drafted in the 3rd round 2 years ago.
I can understand why Buc fans are sour on Glennon…but the entire NFL certainly isn’t. If we can’t get a 2nd or 3rd….we should keep him.
January 16th, 2015 at 3:32 pm
Senor Mofo === Glennon is only worth higher than a 7th if a mob member wins the mega lottery and buys an nfl team. 7th or conditional 6th at best at very best.
And for the record, Cheetos are way more valuable than a backup qb with no heart who runs out of bound instead of getting a first down. What ever that cheetos mascot name is, I Guarantee he is pissed getting thrown in on a glennon deal..
January 16th, 2015 at 3:34 pm
As for the subject of the article….the pick at 34 will give us a shot at several players that slip out of the first round because teams have drafted lower ranked players for need.
We should absolutely choose the BPA with need somewhat in mind…..DE, MLB, Oline, CB or S perhaps….
We should stay away from RB, TE, QB & WR (unless VJax is traded)
January 16th, 2015 at 3:36 pm
Ryan Mallett is a clone of Glennon and was traded for a conditional sixth or seventh. Terrel Pryor was taken in the third round And eventually traded for a seventh round pick. There is always so many rumors on quarterbacks getting traded but it hardly ever happens. The only quarterback trade that I can see as successful over the past several years is Alex Smith, which is why teams are so hesitant to give up high draft picks for quarterbacks. Just don’t see a guy with Glennons skill set commanding a high draft pick for a trade.
January 16th, 2015 at 3:40 pm
Don’t get me wrong though if you are right and we can get a second or third round pick for Glennon I will jump up-and-down like a giddy school girl. I honestly hope I’m wrong
January 16th, 2015 at 3:41 pm
@SloppyJoe
Still waiting for that example. Neither Mallett nor Pryor ever put up Glennon’s numbers.
January 16th, 2015 at 3:42 pm
SloppyJoe – very well said. Keep in mind that Mallett had not PILED up all the LOSSES that Glennon has either and he still was traded for only a 7th. Matt Flynn is the last backkup to hit major and multiple paydays. Flynn is captain paycheck.
January 16th, 2015 at 3:43 pm
Senor Mofo – the only number that matters is Wins… How many wins does Glennon have oh yeah it’s someone else fault.
January 16th, 2015 at 3:47 pm
Whateve
January 16th, 2015 at 3:50 pm
your draft stock does not depend on the numbers that you have put up in the past. It is based on what teams think you can be. And since when are Glennons numbers so spectacular? other then the example I gave of Alex Smith how many successful quarterback trades have you seen the past 10 years. Alex Smith was a former number one and took his team to the playoffs and only Got a second for San Francisco
January 16th, 2015 at 3:50 pm
Supply & Demand fellas….supply & demand will dictate the draft pick we get for Glennon…..the timing is very good for this trade….as a matter of fact, I suspect we have a tentative agreement with Arizona or St. Louis….and this is why Glennon didn’t play down the stretch for us…..why get him injured? As for taking a conditonal 6th or 7th round pick or the absurd prediction of cutting him outright….please tell me why we should do that….the last time I checked, we need more than one QB & I would rather have Glennon than McCown.
We will see….
January 16th, 2015 at 3:53 pm
@tmaxcon
Brett Favre was drafted in the second round by the Falcons, and they traded him for a first the next season. Favre had only attempted four passes in Atlanta, and two of those were intercepted. He completed none. His first pass attempt was a pick-six.
But Ron Wolf liked Favre. All it takes is for one GM to like Glennon, and I guarantee more than one do. He will bring a third or even a second in trade. If we can’t get that for him, he’s more valuable to us as a backup than trading him for a lower-round pick.
January 16th, 2015 at 3:53 pm
Blaine Gabbert fetched a 6th for the Jags and you folks don’t think we can get a 5th (maybe conditional to a 4th) for Glennon? Gimme a break.
January 16th, 2015 at 3:55 pm
The Bucs can not trade him, keep him as a backup and he’ll be a restricted FA in 2016 and they can put a tender (say, 4th round) on him, where whichever team signs him would have to give that up. Arizona liked him before that draft, many teams did, not sure why some overlook that but whatever. After Ryan Lindley , and Palmer’s injury, they’d seem like a likely trade partner. Sounds like some would rather us get nothing for him to prove their point. SAD!
January 16th, 2015 at 3:55 pm
@tbbf
your last sentence “If we can’t get a 2nd or 3rd….we should keep him.” undermines your whole premise. so is glennon worth a 2nd or 3rd or not…or just to the bucs?
January 16th, 2015 at 3:55 pm
senor mofo… i respect your dream of a high pick but please never ever use Brett Farve in an example that contains the heartless Mike Glennon reference.
January 16th, 2015 at 3:56 pm
tmaxcon – Mallet had 1 year of his contract left at 5 times the pay of Mike Glennon and with only two starts to his name. 2 TDs and 3 INT. The pick was also conditional, so the Patriots could have received a higher pick if Mallet played more.
January 16th, 2015 at 3:58 pm
Mccown will not be here next year. The Bucs will need a 2nd rounder to be compelled to trade away a cheap backup QB with experience like Glennon. Can’t afford a 5 million dollar bench player.
January 16th, 2015 at 3:59 pm
Lovie is demanding Leonard Williams at #1, not a QB. He’s not allowed to be involved with a QB, whereas he can mold Williams personally. He’s not going to be able to stop himself as he envisions the nastiest 1-2 DLine punch in the league in Williams and GMC. As to #34, OLine please.
January 16th, 2015 at 4:00 pm
@senormofo
love the doublespeak.
“All it takes is for one GM to like Glennon, and I guarantee more than one do. He will bring a third or even a second in trade. If we can’t get that for him, he’s more valuable to us as a backup than trading him for a lower-round pick.”
first, your guarantees mean diddly! also, you say he is worth a 2nd or 3rd (guaranteed, remember) but… if we can’t get that, keep him.
lmao
January 16th, 2015 at 4:00 pm
Jordan – coulda, woulda, shoulda, He also did not have double digit loses like Glennon already has.
January 16th, 2015 at 4:01 pm
the drunk dog from WDAE must be posting here under a lot of different usernames.
January 16th, 2015 at 4:01 pm
@tmaxcon
I wasn’t comparing Glennon to Favre. I was merely using the Favre example to illustrate how QB trades happen.
You obviously are completely blinded by some sort of neurotic hatred for Glennon.
January 16th, 2015 at 4:02 pm
i’d rather have winston and his int’s vs glennon and his non-int’s!
January 16th, 2015 at 4:03 pm
@lurker
You should honor your user name, and just keep lurking.
January 16th, 2015 at 4:03 pm
if a young QB having a 5-13 record is worth being condemned than I guess Derek Carr having a 3-13 record just makes him a loser, right? WRONG. And I’m not saying Glennon is near as good as him, but it throws that cut and dry way of evaluating out. PERIOD.
January 16th, 2015 at 4:08 pm
@ Lurker
My premise is that Glennon is worth much more than a 4th-7th round pick to us…and we should keep him as our backup unless we get better than that..
Also, I don’t think the Alex Smith is comparable…..he had some injury (shoulder) problems…..fetched more than a 2nd…..there was another conditional pick in the 2014 draft….also he had a much higher salary than Glennon…..different times…
January 16th, 2015 at 4:09 pm
sorry to hurt your feelings senor doublespeak.
January 16th, 2015 at 4:13 pm
@tbbf
i agree, we should keep glennon if we cannot get decent value…but i don’t see that value as a 2nd round pick.
also, our front office’s personnel decisions thus far scares me, including the zuttah trade.
January 16th, 2015 at 4:17 pm
There is no contradiction to believing Glennon is worth at least what we have in him….a third round pick…..and keeping him if we can’t get that……
What would be the alternative? Letting him go for less….why…because we need another position player like Steven Means, Najee Goode, Drake Dunsmore, Allen Bradford or Daniel Hardy?…..some of our “swing & miss” later round picks…
No thanks, I’ll keep Glennon even with his shortcomings!!!
January 16th, 2015 at 4:23 pm
@ Lurker
Good to have you back….by the way…
I agree, the Zuttah trade puzzles me more than any…because he didn’t seem to have any off-field issues and was very versitile on the Oline…..
Sometimes not trading & resigning our own FAs is the best alternative….especially with depth players…..we will see this year with a player like Mason Foster
January 16th, 2015 at 4:27 pm
Warhop staying…..for now!!!
January 16th, 2015 at 4:28 pm
@SloppyJoe
You’re comparing the trade value of a center to the trade value of a quarterback. Not even close bruh.
January 16th, 2015 at 4:37 pm
As long as the DE the YUCS pick isn’t from Clemson im good.
January 16th, 2015 at 4:40 pm
as long as the de isn’t #1 overall, i’m good…
January 16th, 2015 at 4:50 pm
How the hell did a – “who should the Bucs select with their 2nd round pick” article turn into a “what is Glennon worth in trade value” thread?? (3rd or 4th round pick IMO – LOL)
Back to topic. I’m really hoping that FSU T/G/C Cameron Irving is available with our pick at #34. He could start right away and be a big help up front IMO. That type of versatility is quite valuable as well as him being a stud Olineman in general.
January 16th, 2015 at 4:53 pm
Actually I was comparing Glennon to other quarterback trades in the past several years. Zuttah was just a side note.
January 16th, 2015 at 5:00 pm
#34 please take Perryman LB Miami, if Foster is not coming back.
January 16th, 2015 at 5:12 pm
only 9 sacks??
January 16th, 2015 at 5:17 pm
I think I would take the best Safty available at 34 and try to get a center with that 2nd we are going to get from Glennon, Bruh.
January 16th, 2015 at 5:22 pm
Trading MG? Just keep him! Yeah it’s all his fault for the Bucs wretchedness of late. The Bucs record on someone traded and the return is just great. Letting MG go for next to nothing would be keeping with the past ineptness here in Bucs land. The Bucs should change their motto to fleece me.
January 16th, 2015 at 5:22 pm
Perryman with the 34th qb with the 1 and a qb of the defense with the second
January 16th, 2015 at 5:23 pm
Glennon ranks just 31st in QB rating among QB’s that have 100+ attempts. Mettenberger was drafted in the 6th round and has a slightly higher rating and he’s just a rookie.
So… seems like he’s at the level of a 6th-rounder, no?
January 16th, 2015 at 5:26 pm
The Bucs have so many needs that, after QB with #1 (surely a given even with Lovie at the helm), they’ll be going with Best Player Available (OL, DE, MLB) in Rounds 2-5 at least.
As for Glennon, he’s not going anyplace prior to the season, and neither is McCown. Bucs will start the season with 3 QBs. Glennon’s or McCown’s real value is after the season starts, when QBs start to fall. They’d get a lot more for either one of them in a trade at that point.
January 16th, 2015 at 5:29 pm
Really?
Everyone here told me that it was Lovie that was in total charge. Why fire the guy that obviously has nothing to do with the supposed trade?
THIS.
Although I didn’t believe in Glennon, I still wanted him to prove me wrong…but when he did THAT, that’s when I realized that he just didn’t have the heart that I (personally) would like to see in my QB.
And the MGM has yet to come up with a reasonable explanation for that.
I brought this up in another post. While what you say is true, i only agree with part of what you say.
There is no way i think the Bucs sit at 34 and wait for their player to fall to them. Why sit and wait when you can go get your guy and get him with a 5th year option?
I’m sure you know what types of computers all the coaches are using during these meetings too, right?
Cause the only way you would “know” that type of thing is if you are in the meetings with them or you’ve hacked their emails….
both of which are probably not true.
Unless that low round pick allows Lovie and Licht to trade up and get a player they find more valuable than Glennon.
Both QBs are the same age.
Both QBs have the same amount of wins.
Both QBs are about the same size.
Gabbert has been in the league longer and was a higher draft pick coming out of college…….
I’m guessing you’re still going to find a way to say that Glennon is more valuable.
Again, another situation where some simple, SIMPLE, research could’ve revealed to you FACTS instead of making an uneducated guess and assumption….
As per RotoWorld and SporTrac both QBs (for the 2014 season) counted approximately the same figure towards the cap (there’s about a ~$70k difference, but for all intents and purpose, that’s not enough to make a difference). Their base salaries for the year are even still close enough to call it the same (both are well under $1m).
So, please let me know where you sourced this “5 times the pay of Mike Glennon” information.
I’ll wait.
Are we even scraping anywhere near close to the cap? If not, I think its very fair to say that in our current state, we CAN afford to pay a guy $5m to sit on the bench if he’s mentoring the new QB in a positive way.
Funny that no one had a problem paying McCown $5m to back up Glennon.
Sounds like someone’s feelings are getting hurt cause everyone doesn’t share the same opinion as you.
The same can be said about your blind support for a QB that has yet to put together a winning season, didn’t take advantage of the opportunity THIS season to grasp hold of the starting QB job and also failed to get a crucial first down in a game by running out of bounds instead of lowering his shoulder.
If Glennon had the same fire Winston had, i’d have no problem with it.
I need my QB to have some sort of fire in him. Make some throws and pick up some first downs that make me believe that he can lead us to a W in crunch time.
Hate him if you will, but Freeman showed that fire and moxy.
Like i stated above, i’m willing to bet money that we use that pick and trade back into the 1st round. With that pick, i believe we grab the highest rated OL or DL on our board. Who that pick is, i can’t say, but that’s what i believe.
January 16th, 2015 at 5:30 pm
Stop the nonsense! Preston Smith runs a 4.92 40 and received a 3rd round grade from the NFL. An OT or OG will be the s 2nd round pick!
January 16th, 2015 at 5:31 pm
Card just in….
WITH THE 34TH PICK IN THE 2015 DRAFT DA’ BUCS SELECT!!!
Miami’s Inside Linebacker Denzel Perryman
January 16th, 2015 at 5:35 pm
@ Zam
How ’bout comparing him to Geno Smith or EJ Manuel…..drafed higher in the same draft with Glennon?
January 16th, 2015 at 5:39 pm
BPA please. Favor OL if difference is not significant
January 16th, 2015 at 5:43 pm
*DE- Devonte Fields in the 4 or 5th round. The kid has immense talent, just can’t stay out of trouble…smh
January 16th, 2015 at 5:47 pm
I don’t give a crap who agrees or disagrees with me, free country…and yeah, I think he’s got at worst equal value to Gabbert and despite his shortcomings, has looked more like a viable NFL QB regardless of his NFL service time.
January 16th, 2015 at 5:48 pm
Haha a Freeman reference up above and the “fire” he showed…where’s he at? .
January 16th, 2015 at 5:56 pm
JPP!
JPP!!
JPP!!
And draft a DE.
And give michael johnson one more year to prove himself!
I want the deepest o-lines and d-lines in the NFL!
Go. Bucs!
January 16th, 2015 at 6:03 pm
I’d rather the 2nd pick be Cam Erving (especially if we draft Winston -get his Center), or Guard AJ Cann to open some holes with our run game.
January 16th, 2015 at 6:04 pm
Speaking for Pablo
“Pablo doesn’t believe there is a hispanic player in the 2015 draft that is worthy of a pick at trieinta y cuatro (34) so Pablo believes that we need to fix the Oline and Pablo proposes that we trade that pick to Denver for either Manny Ramirez or Louis Vasquez….Pablo knows he is biased but doesn’t give a good mierda what you think”
“Pablo was all for Mariota until he found out that he was part German & part Samoan”…
January 16th, 2015 at 6:07 pm
1st- L. Williams
2nd- AJ Cann
3rd- Bryce Petty
4th- Kenny Bell
….still deciding on the rest
January 16th, 2015 at 6:15 pm
@joe, u have to put the link on from thebiglead of the comcast interview of Tomsula. It is hilarious. LMAO!! That poor guy won’t last past 2 years and the 49ers are going to look like worse idiots than they already do
January 16th, 2015 at 6:15 pm
Actually after watching this monstrous block by Kenny Bell, I may move him to 3rd 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH75LwUtqI0#t=20
January 16th, 2015 at 6:26 pm
The Buccaneers select
PERRYMAN out of The []_[]
January 16th, 2015 at 6:36 pm
the “Rockstar” GM tried to get permission to interview Tomsula be our defensive coordinator and was denied by the 49ers (not surprising). I like the guy as a coach, players always respect him too..and hey, he’s undefeated as a HC in the NFL (ok, 1-0 but it sounds cool)
January 16th, 2015 at 6:39 pm
LUV
I just saw your comment.
Also it’s been a bit but hello old friend. Jejejeje
January 16th, 2015 at 7:05 pm
@MadMaxx
Good Evening Brotha
@[]_[]Buc…PRBucFan?
Whats good my Puerto Rican brotha..Hows life treating yah man?
January 16th, 2015 at 7:08 pm
@MadMaxx
We need a theme song for the nite brotha..Kick one off.
Also check out those offense line prospects tomorrow in the Shrine game. Hopefully a few them, get an invite to the Senior Bowl
January 16th, 2015 at 7:16 pm
[]_[]Buc
Where u been?……comments waiting moderation?
Pablo & the TBBF happy to see you back….
Any prospects from Gamecocks for our Bucs?
January 16th, 2015 at 7:16 pm
Whats up Luv….heres a funny one for ya if you havent heard it yet
I think some people here can relate 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs
January 16th, 2015 at 7:25 pm
Def will be watching the Shrine game…SC QB Dylan Thompson will be there but Im pretty sure he’ll be a 6th or 7th if he’s even drafted….when he’s on he’s awesome, but he’s too inconsistent for me.
January 16th, 2015 at 7:25 pm
@MadMax,
Love the video. I can definitely relate.
A-S-S-H-O-L-E. That’s me.
January 16th, 2015 at 7:28 pm
Senor Mofo Says:
January 16th, 2015 at 3:04 pm
Well, if we go QB at pick one, we will likely trade Glennon for a 3rd or maybe even a 2nd, so we would have the ammunition to move back up into the first for a pass rusher.
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Why stop at a 2nd, why not take the Titan’s #2 overall for Glennon? Might as well do it considering we’re talking about crazy stuff that could only happen in Bizarro World. I mean, the market is just craving for a weak-armed backup QB with no mobility, poor accuracy, and a penchant for checking down when 1st downs are required.
January 16th, 2015 at 7:30 pm
Robert 9 Says:
January 16th, 2015 at 5:12 pm
only 9 sacks??
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You should be pretty impressed considering the size of your tiny little sack.
January 16th, 2015 at 7:30 pm
Lol something like that brother lol.
Good to see your still as active as ever TBBF.
Corey Robinon and A.J. Cann are intriguing oline pics from USC
And LUV
Errr, Let’s just say he’s uh.. my cousin
Lol but yea, I am just pumped about this draft! And our new OC.
January 16th, 2015 at 7:45 pm
@LUV, heres a real song Brotha….the bass lines are superb!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI-95cTMeLM
January 16th, 2015 at 7:47 pm
@Celly said:
The same can be said about your blind support for a QB that has yet to put together a winning season, didn’t take advantage of the opportunity THIS season to grasp hold of the starting QB job and also failed to get a crucial first down in a game by running out of bounds instead of lowering his shoulder.
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Huh?
I don’t blindly support Mike Glennon. I just think he’s better than Freeman or McCown. I’d rather we start either Mariota or Winston next season, because both have a way bigger upside than Glennon.
Any analyst worth his salt can see that Glennon can be a solid NFl QB. But any analyst worth his salt also knows that Glennon won’t shine until his third or fourth season, and that Glennon’s ceiling is nowhere near as high as Winston’s or Mariota’s.
I was merely discussing Glennon’s potential trade value. Glennon doesn’t have a high ceiling, but he has a very high floor. He’s smart, he’s careful, and he has a big arm. He can push the ball down field efficiently and put your team in position to score.
That’s more than eight or nine teams in this league currently have at the QB position. So, Glennon’s trade value should be obvious to everyone except loser bonehead Bucs fans who wouldn’t know a franchise QB if they dropped a deuce in their face.
January 16th, 2015 at 7:58 pm
Using Glennon’s record as an argument for his trade value isn’t really valid. Peyton was 3-15 in his first 18 and he actually got to be the starter going in to the season, unlike Glennon who just gets tossed out there when it’s convenient and didn’t get the same pre-season treatment a starter would.
Don’t get me wrong I want a new QB, but Glennon has some value if we trade him, I could see the Cards or Bills at least being interested. Maybe he doesn’t have the “fire” but the kid took his licks and got up and did what he could behind some bad coaching and offensive lines.
January 16th, 2015 at 8:00 pm
@MadMax
Had 2 do a Beer run & grab some outback. Great song! thank you for the flash back.
January 16th, 2015 at 8:04 pm
@TampaBayBucsFan
Why does Pablo want to give up a second for Ramirez or Vazquez? How about giving up less for a player like Garza for Chicago? He’s Mexican. LMFAO. Or maybe the YUCS can get HOF Anthony Munoz for dirt cheap. He’s Mexican too. LMFAO
January 16th, 2015 at 8:08 pm
@MadMax
On that second cut (@2:07) Nice!!!
January 16th, 2015 at 8:13 pm
@Brandon said:
Why stop at a 2nd, why not take the Titan’s #2 overall for Glennon? Might as well do it considering we’re talking about crazy stuff that could only happen in Bizarro World. I mean, the market is just craving for a weak-armed backup QB with no mobility, poor accuracy, and a penchant for checking down when 1st downs are required.
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Are you really that stupid? Or are you just another piss-ant troll who hates Glennon for no apparent reason?
Oh, wait. the fact that you described Glennon as “weak-armed” pretty much tells me everything I need to know about you.
January 16th, 2015 at 8:15 pm
@LUV, the Bull? Leonard Williams…. BPA I tell ya, unless we’re trading.
January 16th, 2015 at 8:16 pm
How about Bernardrick McKinney at 34? Plays well against run and pass. Still a little raw, but has great measurables, can get up the middle of the field in Tampa 2.
January 16th, 2015 at 8:18 pm
@MadMax
From the point when.. the tempo of the song changes up.
January 16th, 2015 at 8:21 pm
Joe
In my GM theater of the absurd with this pick I take La’el Collins of LSU and play him at OT.
With my third pick I take Josue Matias OG FSU.
Pass rusher? Justin Houston whom the Bucs passed on is an UFA. Pay him the Big bucks and sign him. Doing that with Simeon Rice was a key to our Super Bowl win.
January 16th, 2015 at 8:25 pm
Why does everyone see tennesee taking a qb at no 2….didnt they draft one last year?
January 16th, 2015 at 8:30 pm
@MadMax
Man, I was just thinking of all the prospects we can add to the roster; if we trade down. Have you listed your 1st-7 round mock yet (trade down scenario included) ? So these folks can see how the roster can be revamped.
January 16th, 2015 at 8:32 pm
@LUV, !
Yup, on me, sorry for going blank on that
January 16th, 2015 at 8:36 pm
I don’t get all the DE love. Yes our pass rush was not up to snuff last year but it in now way was nearly as horrid as our OL. And in fact IF things fell into shape we might be able to cobble together a DL that is effective. Add an LB that could rush…the return of Clayborn to his rookie form…Johnson to his uninjured Bengal form, Jacques Smith and Williams Gholston continue to improve. The interior of the line is already good we just need an edge rusher to complement them.
We have nothing like that on the OL. The ONLY hope is to add a franchise LT move Dotson back to the right and find an NFL quality right guard.
This is especially critical if we spend our first pick on a QB. Gotta have an OL to protect our investment.
Seriously IF we are going to spend the TOP PICK IN THE DRAFT on a QB, and I’m not against that , we should continue to build for the future with a FRANCHISE LT. There are reportedly three of them in this draft in Peat, Scherrf and Stanley. If we only got a franchise QB and a franchise LT to protect him the rest will be gravy.
Combine picks, Glennon swap, whatever to get high enough into that first round to get the tackle!
January 16th, 2015 at 8:57 pm
@LUV, Im still in the first 4 rounds. According to how much we can do as far as immediate “Return on investment” ROI. And that means the 2 QB’s are not happening!
We lost 8 games by 6 points or less. Many factors figure into that equation of why. And from what I saw, QB IS NOT the most problematic….it was where its always been. THE TRENCHES! O line and D line! And “2nd” to that was dropped passes!
For me, 1st, Leonard Williams is BPA to fix the pass rush and also be a backup to GMC if he goes down with an injury. (Backup Backup Backup….QB’s have Backups / QB KILLERS should have backups)
2nd, Im going Guard, AJ Cann! Our RB core is solid, we need someone to open lanes. And I think we’ll probably have to move up to get him.
3rd, Kenny Bell, WR from Nebraska (I posted a vid of him beastly blocking) but he’s also a great WR and can return.
If we draft Winston, then we need his Center Erving! Then go MLB hunting…..so many holes to fill….Im just touching on the first 3 rounds.
January 16th, 2015 at 9:02 pm
And I want Bryce Petty, but thats gonna cost a 3rd or more….and Im thinking we’ll bypass any QB.
January 16th, 2015 at 9:03 pm
Smith is currently projected somewhere around the 3rd/4th round range. I’m not saying the mock drafters know all, but it seems like that would be way too high to take him.
January 16th, 2015 at 9:10 pm
@ Ray Rice
“Speaking for Pablo…..Pablo has already suggested we bring Anthony Munoz & Jeff Garcia out of retirement”…but thanks for reminding Pablo that everyone hasn’t read all of his posts. Pablo apologizes in advance for anyone subjected to Pablos repeats”
January 16th, 2015 at 9:14 pm
Trade down may have been plausible had Love not just sunk a season and he had more leeway. As it is he is on the hot seat and a QB will be the only pick that buys him more time.
It’ll be a qb UNLESS Jacksonville decides to trade up and guarantees they won’t take a QB thus still allowing us a QB pick.
IMHO
January 16th, 2015 at 9:41 pm
@StPeteBucsFan
I’m with you on that line of thinking, if we could move back up high enough in the first round to get one of the top tackles after using our first round pick on a QB.
Both Mariota and Winston are hands-down better prospects than any other QBs we’ve ever been in a position to draft, so we have to take one of them.
Overall, though, this isn’t a very deep draft in terms of talent. We could get a decent pass rusher where we pick in the second, but if we trade Glennon for a decent pick, we might be able to move back high enough to get a good left tackle. There’s five or six guys who might make good left tackles in the NFL, and if not, they will surely be serviceable right tackles.
I’d rather trade up for a solid o-lineman than gamble on a pass rusher. Our track record of gambling on d-linemen hasn’t been good, and we have neglected the o-line in the draft for far too long.
January 17th, 2015 at 12:36 am
I thought I was going to read an article about this guy being projected at 34 to us. I was thinking how crazy it was that he was all excited and tweeting about the mock prediction. Now that I’ve read the article, it all makes a lot more sense. I hope within 2 years we can be back to the late 90’s and early 2000’s of players, especially defensive players, wanting to play in Tampa.
January 17th, 2015 at 1:20 am
The one thing I don’t like about Daniel’s Mock Draft is Amari Cooper pairing up with Julio Jones in Atlanta. that would just suck to deal with year in and year out. It would force us to go after a big time CB to pair with Banks. I still like Kareem Edwards and move ATV to the Nickel.
January 17th, 2015 at 9:11 am
No thanks on Smith, he’s got ok.speed and quickness and projects as a rotational DE.
Yeah I think Edwards can be a solid center with his length.
If L&L arent sold on a QB and don’t think Williams is a good fit I wouldnt be opposed to trading bsck with Jets and picking up a St Louislike ransom. We go back to 7 and get Dante Fowler or a tackle, then Perryman at 34, Cann or Erving with Jets extra 2nd and then Petty in 3rd or another lineman. This type of scenario sets Lovie up to win now. And we get extra picks in next year’s draft which projects to be best draft ever. Btw OSU will have 3-4 top 10 picks. We can go 6-10 or 7-9 with Glennon and Lovie will keep his job then go QB next year with Jets extra early pick.
January 17th, 2015 at 1:23 pm
tmaxcon Says:
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SloppyJoe – very well said. Keep in mind that Mallett had not PILED up all the LOSSES that Glennon has.
Can’t pile up the losses if you don’t play.
January 17th, 2015 at 10:55 pm
compare glennon’s stats with c newtons, m Stafford, kaepernick and foles. would you want them to qb your team?? then consider TB has had no blocking, no running game, last yr he had 1 rec’vr to work with, this yr no time working with 1st team, will he be any good?? with as little as he’s had to work with so far, its hard to tell. Jax thinks they have their qb of the future, bortles–check his stats, Oakland with carr, check his stats. But we can trade him away and see if he can win a superbowl with another team like we have with several other qb’s because we can’t give them a little time and build a team around them. No qb can win without a supporting cast. Perfection???no, but has he been given a decent opportunity?? I don’t think so. for this draft–the 2 top qb’s have questions about them, plus did they/can they win without a supporting cast around them. give them a team like tb has fielded the last 2 yrs and you’ll be wanting to trade them for a 6th or 7th round pick.
January 18th, 2015 at 2:34 am
glennon sucks!
stats are weak…watch the games! he is weak-armed. his passes flutter…that is a party-popper, not a cannon. his feet are weak. his decisions are weak.
all those qb’s named above have a way higher ceiling or are better now. you don’t think newton, carr, bortles, stafford, or kaepernick are better….c’mon now.
you are delusional.
January 18th, 2015 at 11:57 am
34th pick should be mammoth Miami OT Ereck Flowers or Miami MLB Perryman. No I’m not a Canes fan, but we need to come out of this draft with Three starters in our first three picks!
January 18th, 2015 at 12:04 pm
New OC Dirk Koetter has already mentioned that Glennon coming out of College had a lot of the same makeup of “Matty Ice” as far as a skill set goes. I don’t think we blow Glennon out of here for less than a 4th at least until Koetter looks at him in OTA’s.