“Steelers 30, Buccaneers 10”
September 25th, 2014
More national analysts call for Glennon to start permanently, and they believe Big Ben will feast Sunday.
Heading to the angry confines of Heinz Field is a tough assignment for any team, especially for Mike Glennon, who was sacked over and over and over on the road last year. (Not so much at home)
Interim offensive coordinator Marcus Arroyo also gets to match wits with legendary Steelers coordinator Dick LeBeau.
The guy who coached under Monte Kiffin with the Jets and later became Jets personnel chief, Pat Kirwan of CBS Sports, dives into the Bucs-Steelers matchup in the video below, along with prickly Pete Prisco.
Yes, they are another two national media types who think Glennon should be “the guy” for the Bucs going forward.
Arthur Moats and the banged up Steelers pass rush is a focus for Kirwan, but he’s more interested in what Ben Roethlisberger will do to the porous Lovie Smith defense.
September 25th, 2014 at 12:15 pm
After last week’s beat down I don’t care who we play. If our team has any balls at ALL , we go in, and beat the sh*t out of them. To lose in last week’s fashion should infuriate any team, and it’s up to lovie to demand a win from the bucs.
September 25th, 2014 at 12:15 pm
Hard to believe the point spread for this game is only 7.5.
September 25th, 2014 at 12:19 pm
“Steelers 30, Buccaneers 10″
Hey, sounds about right, no argument here. All we can hope for is that the bucs show improvement.
September 25th, 2014 at 12:32 pm
James harrisson is going to murder mike glennon… its going to be a sad day…
September 25th, 2014 at 12:35 pm
Sounds about right. Do the Buccaneer 10 points come in the fourth quarter when the Steelers start pulling their starters with a 30-3 lead?
September 25th, 2014 at 12:44 pm
So that’s a pick 6 and a field goal. Love that up tempo offense.
September 25th, 2014 at 12:56 pm
Man, I think I could make some money on that. I would take the Steelers and give up 8 points in a heart beat. I see the Bucs scoring more points in garbage time, but the Steelers may too. Maybe like Steelers 31 to 13
September 25th, 2014 at 1:02 pm
Lovie’s vison comes alive for all to see,in orgasmic wonderment, Bucs’- 2 Steelers -0
September 25th, 2014 at 1:04 pm
Harry, be careful. I do agree with you that the bucs will be destroyed in Pittsburgh. however, factor in the fact that Tomlin respects and likes Lovie coupled with the class that the Pittsburgh organization shows therefore I doubt they run the score up like the classless Falcons organization. Just trying to save you some cash. LOL
September 25th, 2014 at 1:04 pm
That is generosity to the defense. Only giving up 30 points to Big Ben, Antonio Brown, Heath Miller, Bell and Blount??
September 25th, 2014 at 1:05 pm
For those Buc fans out there (like 80% of the fanbase) that became fans when Dungy arrived. This is it. This is what it’s like. Get used to it too, because I don’t think this Lovie thing is going to pan out.
Also whoever you are out there. STOP saying stuff like Dungy did this and Dungy did that in his first season. So Lovie will…and Lovie might…
This is not the 90’s, that was 2 uniforms ago. Dungy was not the GM like Lovie either. Dungy wishes he had 10% of the power that Lovie has with this team right now.
Lovie is black, defensive minded, and worked under Dungy. The end. Nothing left to compare. So stop it. It’s a slap in the face to Dungy right now.
Some of you occasionally speak ill of Dungy. When I see it in print it makes me want to spit on my monitor. Those that do it, show just how long they’ve been fans. Dungy means a lot to me. For those fans that were not fans prior to Dungy your about to find out just how bad it can get as a fan. Then along comes a coach that turns it all around by the end of his first season. Tony Dungy. The Bucs the former NFL punching bags, all of a sudden were punching back. Slowly erasing and melting away the bad years of the franchise. Tony Dungy made me feel proud to be a Bucs fan for once in my life. So for those that speak ill of Dungy, perhaps you need to suffer a little longer as Bucs fan in order to appreciate exactly what that man did for us long time fans.
Once again for those that compare Lovie to Dungy. Stop it.
September 25th, 2014 at 1:05 pm
Not much chance of the Bucs winning this game. All we can hope for is that they look good doing it.
Not really the best game for Glennon to start in. He’ll lose, and Lovie will use that to justify putting McCown back in.
On the other hand, until Glennon proves otherwise, he really isn’t any better than McCown. Last year (and the brief time he played in the last game) he caved under pressure and was inaccurate on the deep ball. Going to be a mess in this game.
That said, I’ll be rooting my team on and hoping for a miracle.
September 25th, 2014 at 1:08 pm
@Bonzai
It is impossible to “look good doing it” in those monstrocities they call uniforms. Lmao
September 25th, 2014 at 1:09 pm
@Buc1987
For someone who claims to have been around so long, your memory is short. Tony Dungy faced 5 straight losses to start his head coaching career here. As bad as it is, Lovie hasn’t done as bad…yet.
Incidentally, it was those 5 straight losses that caused Sapp, Lynch and Brooks to band together and carry the team. Things happen for a reason.
As a fan from the very start, I know better than to give up. I know what a bad team looks like. I also know what hopelessness looks like. This isn’t it. This is birthing pains.
September 25th, 2014 at 1:09 pm
@WalkdaPlank
Well…you actually got me there. They are pretty ugly.
September 25th, 2014 at 1:13 pm
63-14 rooting for no one going to IR…cept maybe lovie
September 25th, 2014 at 1:14 pm
It’ll be a radio game while doing chores around the house, I’ve already instructed my wife to hide all my hammers……
September 25th, 2014 at 1:15 pm
I’m hoping to see improvement from “The Cannon”…
September 25th, 2014 at 1:15 pm
Any chance they trash the uniforms if they 0-16? It’d almost be worth losing them all and getting Mariota if we got rid of the alarm clocks as well.
September 25th, 2014 at 1:17 pm
BuccaneerBonzai Says:
September 25th, 2014 at 1:09 pm
“@Buc1987
For someone who claims to have been around so long, your memory is short. Tony Dungy faced 5 straight losses to start his head coaching career here”
@Bonzai what part of this do you not understand?
“For those fans that were not fans prior to Dungy your about to find out just how bad it can get as a fan. Then along comes a coach that turns it all around by the end of his first season.”
So your saying since Dungy started off bad and so is Lovie it’s one and the same? Do you see how far some of you have taken it. You’re ine of the culprits too Bonzai. I know you are one of the ones out there that think Lovie is Dungy part 2.
Chalk Bonzai up as another fan that thinks Lovie is Dungy part 2. Actually it’s been well documented on here anyways, because your one of the main culprits and you do it all the time. Your a… “well Dungy did this and Dungy did that in first season” so we have to wait for Lovie because of Dungy.
Yup that’s your perception in a nutshell. That Lovie is Dungy part 2.
September 25th, 2014 at 1:17 pm
Oh and I’ve got the Steelers 38-10. Late touchdown from the Bucs again. Less bad than last week, I guess.
September 25th, 2014 at 1:20 pm
@Joe – Regarding Charles Sims, is his recovery supposed to take right up until the period when the team can bring him back or have you hear that he should be ready to roll around week 5 or so and will just have to wait it out? Just curious so we can know whether we can hope for him to come in and be a force or if he’ll still be dealt with delicately.
September 25th, 2014 at 1:21 pm
Tony Dungy used to chew bubble gum. If we see Lovie chewing gum, then we know it’s going to be Dungy part 2 for sure, happy days are here again.
September 25th, 2014 at 1:23 pm
Look, I get that no one could have predicted Tedford going down – I’m assuming coaches probably don’t get any kind of a physical. But this is the second year in a row now where right out of the gates an “act of God crisis” has struck this team…
This is a professional organization – in the real world if this kind of thing happens to a company (in addition to performing at the bottom against your competitors/division for so many consecutive year) YOU’D BE OUT OF BUSINESS…
Is there someone/-thing that the finger should be pointed at
September 25th, 2014 at 1:29 pm
@Mike10 – Start with the players on the field that are playing badly before you go assigning blame for heart problems and unforeseeable disease outbreaks
September 25th, 2014 at 1:32 pm
“Marcus Arroyo also gets to match wits with legendary Steelers coordinator Dick LeBeau.”
That’s the most terrifying statement I’ve read in a while.
September 25th, 2014 at 1:33 pm
Buc1987 Says:
“So your saying since Dungy started off bad and so is Lovie it’s one and the same? Do you see how far some of you have taken it. You’re one of the culprits too Bonzai. I know you are one of the ones out there that think Lovie is Dungy part 2.
Chalk Bonzai up as another fan that thinks Lovie is Dungy part 2. Actually it’s been well documented on here anyways, because your one of the main culprits and you do it all the time. Your a… “well Dungy did this and Dungy did that in first season” so we have to wait for Lovie because of Dungy.
Yup that’s your perception in a nutshell. That Lovie is Dungy part 2.”
Actually, everyone can chalk you up as someone who THINKS he knows but is really ignorant as heck.
I do not think Lovie is Tony Dungy “part 2”.
I think he is Lovie Smith Part 2.
I compare the two because Tony is the architect of the last good team we had. I was illustrating that even though he lost the first 5 games, he still turned things around. You know…to demonstrate that things are not hopeless?
But I get it. You are a bandwagon fan. Always have been. Always will be. From the start. As I recall, it took you exactly 2 games to abandon Josh Freeman and start whining. He didn’t work out, but non-bandwagon fans tend to stick things out longer. One week you will be shouting praises, two weeks later you will change your tune. That’s how you are built and that is the behavior you have demonstrated since coming here.
So, sure…use the technique of belittling others to put them on the defensive and divert attention away from your own ineptitude. Directed toward me it will only show how outclassed you are. Stomp your feet, scream bloody murder, get mad…whatever. Rolls off like water.
September 25th, 2014 at 1:33 pm
Bonzai…you deserve to throw your money away on tickets.
It’s like this man. I know Dungy started off rough. I also thought he was a baffoon at the podium in first few pressers. I called him another loser.
I could be wrong. I really hope I am. I’m frustrated like everyone, but what gives me more frustration is to watch this team not getting better, but going backwards from a team that was coached by a coach from Rutgers.
Tony installed a new innovative defense, part of the turnaround. It’s not new anymore and Lovie’s trying to make it work. Another reason to make me think Lovie is not the second coming of Dungy.
Nope I’ve been a fan since Ray Perkins. I saw what Dungy did. I remember the finish to his first season. How can anyone forget?
September 25th, 2014 at 1:35 pm
James Harrison is washed up.
September 25th, 2014 at 1:36 pm
@Mike10
God hates Bucs fans. That’s my working theory. You couldn’t predict the kind of things that have been happening. From players with freak injuries (Brian Price) to high impact players with MRSA (Carl Nicks), to the unfortunate mental illness of a promising player (Arron Sears) and now Tedford.
Oh and lets not forget our most accurate kicker ever self-ejecting his career in a basketball game. And the absolute overload of injuries to specific positions…
It has to be a higher power willing this.
September 25th, 2014 at 1:38 pm
@Bucfan37
Agreed. He’s slow and lumbering. Lots of people don’t seem to remember 2 teams didn’t want him very badly anymore.
September 25th, 2014 at 1:40 pm
Bonzai says : “I do not think Lovie is Tony Dungy “part 2″.
I think he is Lovie Smith Part 2.”
If so then STOP doing it then. Stop saying things like Dungy did this and Dungy did that so surely Lovie will do this and that too.
Don’t tell me that you haven’t done it or been doing it.
I abandoned Freeman after 2 games so therefore I’m bandwagon. Are you serious?
If I was a bandwagon fan. Would I even be in here blogging about this team? Would I even care? The answer to both questions is…no and you know it.
I’m not here to argue with people or call them out. I call it like I see it.
September 25th, 2014 at 1:58 pm
We haven’t made a field goal all year…
30-7 sounds more accurate to me!
September 25th, 2014 at 1:59 pm
Glennon far better than McCown…..not even up for debate.
September 25th, 2014 at 2:01 pm
The Steelers/Bucs game may be worse than the Atlanta mauling. The Steelers beat the brakes off Carolina with Cam Newton. Tampa couldn’t beat Carolina’s backup QB. Tampa better have a 3rd stringer ready to go when Glennon gets folded like a beach chair.
September 25th, 2014 at 2:02 pm
Buc1987: you should really stop posting because you just make it worse. So you are basically saying that had there been a JoeBucsfan back when Tony coached this team you would have been the same thing you are doing now by screaming for his head. Thank you for making Bonzai and the rest of us asking for people to give Lovie some time look great! Like Bonzai said, we do not think Lovie is Tony. Only that he does have a successful track record as a coach and should be given the opportunity and time to build this team up. Pretty simple really. Thanks again for making out point.
September 25th, 2014 at 2:08 pm
Buc87,
Stop arguing with JBuc and Bonzai. They are the smartest posters on here – just ask ’em!
September 25th, 2014 at 2:17 pm
Interim Marcus Arroyo versus legendary DIck LeBeau that is as funny a line as I have seen in a while Joe. If I werent crying I would be laughing.
September 25th, 2014 at 2:20 pm
JBuc…okay then. I’m not saying your one of them, but you’re on watch. If I see you make Dungy comparisons like MANY people on JBF have been doing since hje was hired. I remind you of it.
JBuc…when Dungy was hired Bucs fans (all 10,000 of them or so) expected them to lose. It was the norm for over a decade. Did you expect the Bucs to look THIS bad in first 3 weeks under Lovie? If you say yes, you’re a liar.
@Bonzai and JBuc…I’m giving the guy more time. That’s all I have. I’ve been there done this before. Let me know when the team looks like they’ve made any progress from Schiano. Let me know when the team stops going backwards from last season’s coach, Satan himself Greg Schiano.
September 25th, 2014 at 2:21 pm
Lets be real. The defensive scheme born from Chuck Knoll that Dungy brought to Tampa, that Kiffen defensively coached to greatness, took time to learn and adjust to. Sapp has even said this. Probablly, why they didn’t turn things around till game 6 that 96 season. So, it was ok for Dungy to get a 5 game pass and not Lovie?
September 25th, 2014 at 2:24 pm
Lightningbuc- maybe you guys should quit making it so easy. BTW 1987, Tony did not create a winner by installing a “new innovative” defense (one that had been run in Minnesota and in Pittsburgh in the 70’s). He created a winner by putting talented players that fit his scheme in place and them coaching them up to play their roles effectively. Unfortunately, that tends to take time. The correlation to Lovie is that he is trying to do the same thing. Whether or not he succeeds is up to Lovie and not Tony.
September 25th, 2014 at 2:25 pm
I hate (love) to ramble on. BUT this needs to be said so you know eher I’m coming from. If this team even looked competitive in my eyes in ONE game out of the first three, I’d have faith in Lovie.
He can gain my faith back by winning or atleast being competitive. Then again that would be “bandwagon” I guess, whatever.
September 25th, 2014 at 2:28 pm
“He created a winner by putting talented players that fit his scheme in place”
Is this where your going to say Sam Wyche had nothing to do with the great talent that Dungy inherited?
September 25th, 2014 at 2:32 pm
That close, huh?
September 25th, 2014 at 2:40 pm
OAR Says:
September 25th, 2014 at 2:21 pm
“So, it was ok for Dungy to get a 5 game pass and not Lovie?”
It was okay, because to Tampa fans, he was virtually unknown and fans were used to losing.
That’s not the point anyways. The point is there are many people on JBF that think that history is going to repeat itself. They use Dungy as a tool to make Lovie look good or prop him up after each loss. They use past players like Sapp and Brooks as reference as to how long things are going to take. This is not 1996 that’s the point. Lovie is not Dungy, this is a whole new team and players. That was then this is now and people need to stop trying to relate the two. The NFL itself is different game. John Lynch would not have job in today’s NFL for instance.
September 25th, 2014 at 2:50 pm
It’s a confusing state of affairs our team is in right now. Seriously people.
My point. There was many fans in here saying all last season that there was no excuse for Schiano’s losses and that there was enough talent on this team…no excuse..blah blah blah, MANY of you said so last season.
Then Lovie comes in and gets rid of 1/2 the team (the team many Bucs fans thought was chocked with talent) saying “we were 4-12”. Now the team looks worse than before Lovie got rid of 1/2 of them. Also I know it’s only been 3 weeks.
That’s where I’m at as far as my support for Lovie. I’m done ranting for now.
September 25th, 2014 at 3:33 pm
“It was okay, because to Tampa fans, he was virtually unknown and fans were used to losing.”
In 1965 I was hatched and raised here in Tampa, and have been a fan since 1976. I know all about the losing and the winning. But, the last time I remember we had a winning season it was 2008(besides the fluke season under Sunbeam Raheem). So, even the “new” fans have been used to losing lately.
September 25th, 2014 at 3:37 pm
I think the standard should be higher than dungy, he could not win the superbowl with his team he built, chucky comes in and saves the buc fans,,Lovie is a knucklehead passing on hester and gutting this team, not to mention all the other brainfarts until he shows some real coaching skills well anough said.. Dont seal club me.. I am tired I have got to go lay down..
September 25th, 2014 at 4:11 pm
38-24 steelers,I have faith in us scoring some points with Glennon at the helm.
September 25th, 2014 at 4:17 pm
I am grateful to the Glaziers for the S.B. WIN,I never thought I would see it in my lifetime and I have been a fan since “79”.I really hope Debartalo makes another offer and we accept.
September 25th, 2014 at 4:20 pm
I would be surprised if wwe score less against a bad defense like the Steelers. Rams and Panthers D are better.
September 25th, 2014 at 4:26 pm
Oar says : “So, even the “new” fans have been used to losing lately.”
Oar.. you’re so way off base it’s not even funny. REALLY…you really can equate the Bucs of the 70’s and 80’s to, today’s Bucs? You think today’s “new” fans have suffered with Dungy, Gruden , SB win, Raheem and Schiano compared to fans of the old Bucs prior to Dungy?
Sure okay. Where did you hatch from under a rock? You do realize that Lovie Smith has 100% control over this team right? Dungy nor Gruden did not.
SMH…that’s you’re argument. That fans that stuck through the lean years have suffered just as bad all the “new” fans of today, most of which came on board when Dungy arrived. The bandwagoners.
September 25th, 2014 at 4:33 pm
I don’t want to think this way about my team. I’m tired of thinking this way about them.
Let me ask you all this.
When Lovie was hired how many of you would have thought someone would be on JBF 3 weeks into the season saying Schiano’s Bucs are better than Lovie’s?
Who would of thunk it? Not me and I’m the one saying it…
September 25th, 2014 at 5:32 pm
Buc1987
Where did I compare the losing seasons of different decades? (Although some of the recent ones most certainly have been very reminiscent of the past). I just said I know about the wining and losing seasons. My point was that you said it was ok with fans that Dungy took a few games because we had been losing, right? So what’s the difference with Lovie getting a break? Because, we have been losing lately, right?
I actually had realistic notions that we would not be a decent team until game 6 or 7. So to answer your question, not me!
BTW what the hell does Lovie having control over entire team have to do with my point, which you failed to see?
September 25th, 2014 at 5:41 pm
Still with the lovie dungy comparisons? We’re still comparing the ROOKIE head coach Dungy was to the 10-11 year veteran lovie is? Dungy found average guys who made names for themselves, lovie isn’t getting his team to produce but if they show improvement against a tough opponent I’m willing to be patient through the losing if they are trending up
September 25th, 2014 at 6:36 pm
buc4lyfe Says:
” We’re still comparing the ROOKIE head coach Dungy was to the 10-11 year veteran lovie is?”
@ Oar…what he said. Expectations were extremely high for many fans coming into this season, because of Lovie’s past. We’re they not? No one knew who Dungy was, so no one cared. People care now, because they expect better of Lovie for a reason.
I get what you’re saying about giving Lovie the same 5-6 games, but from what has been shown so far it’s 0-6 here we come. I don’t like to even have to type such things.
What I meant by “this is Lovie’s team.” Meaning this whole thing is his doing.He calls all the shots more so than past Bucs coaches. So he’s even more responsible for the teams failures and the teams success than Dungy or Gruden. If something goes well. Look to Lovie. Same if it goes bad as well.
Lovie created this ugly monster that looks worse than Schiano’s ugly monster.
September 25th, 2014 at 6:42 pm
Yeah I was with you I expected 6 – 7 wins. Now I don’t see where a win is going to come from. Do you?
September 25th, 2014 at 10:40 pm
Can we start talking draft now?
September 26th, 2014 at 12:36 am
He said this, he said that, Lovie this, Dungy that….. Who gives a flying f? Arguing about ancient history doesnt change that fact that the current team is busted, broken, and confused. Quit yer bitchin and stop worrying about who gets compared to who.
Heres a comparison for ya…. reading all the comments about how Lovie is nothing like Dungy is almost as fun as watching the Bucs gets their asses handed to them by a back up qb.
September 26th, 2014 at 1:59 am
buc’d Up Says:
September 26th, 2014 at 12:36 am
“Heres a comparison for ya…. reading all the comments about how Lovie is nothing like Dungy is almost as fun as watching the Bucs gets their asses handed to them by a back up qb.”
Thanks for your contribution and thoughts on the subject. No one really cares what you read or don’t want to read. It’s your choice to read it or not right a-hole?
September 26th, 2014 at 2:00 am
Was that too harsh Joe? I was trying to be nice and it’s late. Oh well good night.
September 26th, 2014 at 8:23 am
Apparently nobody cares what you think, I read all the comments and there was some good info and thoughts being shared. Then you came along and started preaching about Father Dungy and putting people on notice. You mudded up the works over a petty dispute that is irrelevant. What a joke. Its not your job to call people out for having differing opinions. Its JoeBucsFan.com, not JoeBucsfan1987.com. Thats the problem with this day and age. People like you sit and troll all day on blogs and you get so involved that you start to think own the site, like this thing just wouldnt work without your valuable input.