Yesterday, Today And Tomorrow
October 13th, 2014
A long look at the Bucs yesterday, today, and what to expect tomorrow and beyond.
So we begin the week wondering if yesterday was some sort of drunken nightmare. Alas, it was not. Lovie Smith’s defense set an NFL record for biggest halftime deficit — 38-0.
Make no mistake, this is Lovie’s defense. It is not Father Dungy’s, it is not Monte Kiffin’s, it is not Rod Marinelli’s defense. It is Lovie’s defense. The Tampa Spittoon.
Predictably, Lovie boasted he’s going Captain Edward Smith and is not changing course. That’s fine. Lovie is in charge of all things football at One Buc Palace. But if his defense, the Tampa Spittoon, doesn’t turn things around, Lovie is essentially hanging himself out to dry.
Look, wherever Lovie has been he has used this defense and it has worked. That doesn’t mean his defense can or will work with the Bucs. What is in the past is in the past. This isn’t 1996. It’s nearly 20 years later.
Something is happening; it is one of the following: Lovie is either doing a terrible job coaching, dropping the ball at communicating what he wants, or the players have tuned him out, or Lovie simply doesn’t have the horses to execute. Maybe a little of all of the above?
NFL teams learn new defenses all the time; every year there are maybe a dozen new defenses being taught. The teams don’t get horsewhipped like the Bucs have been. They don’t get embarrassed like the Bucs have been. They don’t become laughingstocks like the Bucs are now.
You know why yesterday’s seal-clubbing was worse than the Atlanta debacle? Because the Bucs couldn’t use the excuse of a short week on the road as an out. Shoot, Lovie was even bragging this was as close to a full, healthy team he had all year.
Frustration Mounting
It’s typical to see players down in the dumps after a loss, much less a baseball-bat-beating like the Bucs took yesterday. Joe talked with several linemen and linebackers. Frustration is in full-blown mode right now. Akeem Spence told Joe the Bucs have practiced the Tampa Spittoon enough that everyone knows what they are supposed to do but for reasons unknown, many are not performing what Lovie is preaching during the week.
Joe has seen the Bucs locker room mad. The loss to the Giants two years ago springs to mind. Same with the loss to the Jets. Bucs players were not mad yesterday, they were and are frustrated out of their minds.
Not Prepared
Yesterday, Joe got the distinct impression the defense not only didn’t know how to handle a three-step drop from Crows quarterback Joe Flacco, they didn’t know how to adjust. The three-step drops came as a surprise but more than one player on the defensive side stated they never did adjust to Flacco’s short drops.
That has absolutely nothing to do with the Tampa Spittoon and everything to do with being unprepared by coaches. That is on Lovie.
Better Get That Defense Fixed
Coaches normally don’t think about team economics. Understandable. They are coaches, not accountants. But as bad as this team is playing, they are destroying and chasing away the fanbase quicker than Raheem Morris or Greg Schiano ever did with this putrid Tampa Spittoon defense.
Lovie may not have noticed a near-empty stadium at halftime, save for the purple-clad Crows fans, but trust Joe, the suits at One Buc Palace sure noticed it as easily as they noticed the 38-0 score.
NFL Thoughts
Colts: Man, Andrew Luck gets more fun to watch each week. Him and T.Y. Hilton have some good chemistry. And after the first quarter, who didn’t turn the game off thinking it was yet another Thursday Night Blowout?
Patriots: The Belicheats take command of the AFC East. Again. Yawn.
Bengals: If you are a prospective playoff team, you don’t let the Stinking Panthers come into your house and tie you. That’s two bad games in a row for Marvin Lewis.
Browns: Wow. The Brownies punked the Steelers. Suddenly, the Bucs’ win over the Steelers doesn’t seem so impressive. How bad are things for Bucs fans? They are envious of the Browns.
Packers: Green Bay was 2-6 over the past decade when the kickoff temperature was 75 or over. So how does Aaron Rodgers pull out a win? He uses a Dan Marino fake spike to set up a touchdown. Clever.
Lions: The Detroit Kitties won despite still not having a field goal kicker. Helps when Teddy Bridgewater throws three picks.
Broncos: Peyton Manning beats the Jets. Yawn. Next…
Titans: In the waning seconds, the Jags tried a game-winning field goal… only to see it blocked.
Chargers: The Super-Chargers rallied with 10 points in the fourth quarter for the win.
Cardinals: Look out, this is a sleeper team. Old Man Carson Palmer had a pair of touchdowns and 250 yards passing without a pick.
Bears: The Monsters of the Midway handed the Dixie Chicks their third straight loss. Bratty Jay Cutler threw for 381 yards.
Cowboys: Wow, shock the world. The Pokes walk into Seattle and punk the world champs. DeMarco Murray ran for a 15-yard touchdown late in the game for the win.
Eagles: Someone woke up LeSean McCoy. He ran for 149 yards as the Eagles blanked the Giants.
Non-NFL Thoughts
* Joe was asked Saturday night if Florida State is in trouble if Ole Miss and Mississippi State leapfrog them in the polls. No. If Florida State wins out, they will be in the four-team playoff. An undefeated Florida State is just as good if not better than any one-loss team from the PAC-12 or Big XII.
* Interesting article from SI.com legal analyst Mike McCann, who believes Jameis Winston may leave Florida State (voluntarily) before the end of the season. McCann explains that regardless of statements in third-party hearings, Winston has been ordered by the school to testify and can be subpoenaed in the coming libel lawsuit from the alleged victim. By leaving Florida State, he avoids those hearings (and potential damning testimony) and McCann says he can begin working out for the NFL Scouting Combine.
* What an absolute choke job by TCU Saturday. A three-touchdown lead with 11 minutes to go and you gag it away? Embarrassing. Joe can never remember a Gary Patterson team blowing that big of a lead. Maybe if TCU tried anything other than sideline fade routes the Horned Frogs could have pulled off the upset?
* Joe notices the drumbeat of Gators fans to steal Dan Mullen from Mississippi State is growing louder by the day. Would Hugh Freeze be such an awful hire?
* Joe isn’t much of a gambler but if he was, he’d put cash on Notre Dame this week. Florida State, though they are winning, is really playing down to their opponents. That will get you beat sooner or later and why not Notre Dame?
* After watching TCU-Baylor and Auburn-Mississippi State, Joe tried to watch the Penn State-Michigan game. Man, the dropoff in talent is jarring. How far two proud programs have fallen. There was a time only months ago that both teams were national title contenders each season. Now, they are bringing up the rear of the brutal B1G. Freaking sad.
* So, Georgia really missed Todd Gurley, huh?
* You know what is lame? When a sportswriter who is being paid to sit in an air conditioned box mocks the littles for not spending good cash and sitting all day in the sun to watch bad football at Miami games. Every freaking Saturday this happens where some scribe Twitters out a photo of the empty seats at Joe Robbie Stadium with a snide comment about lack of support. Would the same guys who are mocking the fans pay good cash and sweat like a beast to watch bad football? And miss all sorts of good games on TV? We all know the answer.
* Joe predicts right now that the World Series will be Kansas City vs. San Francisco. The Cardinals once again have gone into a hitting slump in October. Not the best of time to lose your bats. The Giants are just a damned good team and Joe is loving the rebirth of the Royals.
* The Redbirds tie up the NLCS last night with four homers (!). Joe just can’t square this. He grew up with Lou Brock and later Whiteyball. To score a run, you get a single, steal two bases and come home on a sacrifice fly. Joe doesn’t understand this home run thing.
October 13th, 2014 at 8:07 am
Fire Lovie….he has lost this team…
October 13th, 2014 at 8:18 am
Joe
Is the Mississippi State coach available?
October 13th, 2014 at 8:21 am
So many first round busts. The cupboard was bare. This team is just bad and no one could coach them up to victory. The talent is not there.
October 13th, 2014 at 8:25 am
Perhaps the players are thinking what myself and a few others are “we fired coach Schiano for this group of coaches!?”
A shame that Hall of Fame Bucs like Sapp and Brooks can’t see past their personal bias towards Lovie and critique him as he should be. I left Shaun King out because few really care about his opinion. 🙂
October 13th, 2014 at 8:25 am
Starting to think there was a big reason Lovie was unemployed last year. The NFL moves so fast now coaches have to adjust on the dime and this does mean having to tweak your defensive and offensive schemes to get the most out of your players. Coaches who don’t adjust end up on the couch like Lovie did last year and I hate to say it, maybe Lovie should still be on the couch.
October 13th, 2014 at 8:29 am
Amazing how everyone talks up Notre Dame after a close win at home to UNC. Really? UNC?
October 13th, 2014 at 8:30 am
It’s time to stop our standard complaining. This is no longer about “fire the coach” or “change the QB.”
This is more like realizing that your child simply isn’t smart enough to get into the honors classes in school. There isn’t anything you can do about it (short-term). You have to adjust your expectations and change study habits or whatever you think you can control.
I don’t think any of us saw a team that would be this catastrophically bad. Years of bad drafting have caught up and the cupboard is pretty bare. It will take time to fix this mess. Jason Licht is not a proven commodity but at least Lovie Smith is, so I hope there isn’t a quick reaction on him.
I also wouldn’t mind seeing a Bill Polian or Joe Banner brought in to serve as a longer-term overseer. Even though Mike Holmgren was shown the door in Cleveland, he oversaw the building of a pretty good roster and the team is reaping the benefits of it now.
October 13th, 2014 at 8:31 am
@ Jim Walker
I don’t know if I’d say the team has so many 1st round busts…Maybe Barron and Martin have regressed under Lovie’s short tenure, but much like McCoy they played better under Schiano (odd as that may sound to many). Evans seems good so far, and Lovie/Licht couldn’t find a use for Revis (the Bucs “1st round pick” after the 2013 trade with the Jets). The cupboard WAS NOT bare in Tampa, Lovie and Licht have created this mess all on their own.
October 13th, 2014 at 8:37 am
Notre Dame hasn’t even played a true road game yet either. And their first will be in Tally for an 8pm game?
Good luck, Irish. You’re going to need it.
October 13th, 2014 at 8:44 am
Some reality
Timing has now become a major factor.
Quality Player availability for replacement is practically impossible at this stage for this season.
This means other than a few bandaid replacements or barring some miracle trade we are going to play the players we have.
Which means if we want better results for the rest of the year
its up to the coaching staff to get more out of these players we have on the roster right now.
If that requires a different system
or different coaches to get the job done
than that is what it will take because the
main players are here to stay that were chosen to make up this team for this season.
If Lovie wants different results for the rest of this year
he is basically going to have to do things a different way and
quite possibly with some different people helping him but likely with the same players.
Lovies overall personnel decisions over the next couple of weeks will show
you if there is any interest in the rest of this year or if it is wait til next year.
October 13th, 2014 at 8:44 am
@ToesOnTheLine Says:
“…we fired coach Schiano for this group of coaches!?…”
Thats exactly right Toes. I was excited about having Lovie as our coach, but WTF??? There is NO excuse for this. This is bad coaching, our players are not this bad, at least the ones that Lovies kept.
Just BAD coaching!!!
October 13th, 2014 at 8:48 am
How can the defense play, when they are constantly on the field?
Everytime I looked up, 3 rushers were sacking MG8. When it’s a bagillion degrees outside, you can’t ask the D to be on the field constantly.
Fix the O Line, and you’ll instantly make the D better.
THe O Line is basically single handily sinking the ship. Our New England Leftover can’t protect his side. He caused the Safety to seal the game the other day, and not he made Suggs look like a Tailback on our team.
Meanwhile, Wright he lighting fires in New England.
Terrible trade.
October 13th, 2014 at 8:55 am
lovies and his whole staff are a joke. and the team has plenty of talent. even the guys in the booth stated…”how do you not disrupt the recievers routes off the line”. they were carving us up…..just straight slants and seam patterns, embarrassing. athats not on the players…it’s on the sheme and it has been known for weeks now and they have not changed it.
fraser is the worst, lovie is secon and orroyo is 3rd. the are a$$ clowns in a circle jerk. I switched to the miami greenbay game
October 13th, 2014 at 9:00 am
Dam Joe, you put some extra effort into this article. Nice one.
October 13th, 2014 at 9:03 am
@ToesOnTheLine
2007 Gaines Adams
2008 Aqib Talib
2009 Josh Freeman
2010 Gerald McCoy
2011 Adrian Clayborn
2012 Mark Barron Doug Martin
2013 No pick
2014 Mike Evans
I see player on that list that has panned out.
October 13th, 2014 at 9:03 am
* one player
October 13th, 2014 at 9:15 am
@NewTampaChris
Excellent points.
I would throw in Bobby Beathard.
October 13th, 2014 at 9:29 am
“why not Notre Dame?”
Notre Dame that barely beat a terrible Carolina squad?
I see your point, this isn’t last year’s FSU, but, they are playing the game in Tallahassee. And it’s not like Notre Dame is playing great in comparison. Their marquee win three points over Stanford.
October 13th, 2014 at 9:29 am
There is enough blame in all quarters, however, I think that the problem is more the coaches than the players. Never seen a more inept pass D than in the first quarter. Something is badly amiss in the D strategy.
October 13th, 2014 at 9:35 am
Cardinals are no sleeper team, they were a 10 win team last year and Seattle and San Fran are a mitch below what they were this year. Wish we had Arians here instead
October 13th, 2014 at 9:36 am
Joe, my posts have been showing up close to an hour after I hit submit, is that permanent? It’s been every post for several months this way.
October 13th, 2014 at 9:42 am
How entertaining it must be to put the sorriest excuse of a product on the field and sit back and collect all the money the whoople heads pay to see it. Then when you get bored with that, charge $9 dollars for a cup of beer and watch the whoople heads stand in line to buy it. In a stadium built with? you guessed it, whoople head tax money. Brilliant!
October 13th, 2014 at 9:43 am
Anybody who is watching the Bucs play should realize what it going on. The Bucs are VERY predictable on defense & offense (till they’re forced not to run 9/10 on 1st downs). Not only are they predictable but they’re predictably BAD! If you’re hell bent on running your cover 2 D then AT LEAST BUMP THE RECEIVERS AT THE LINE! You can’t let them run their routes free & Flacco or any QB who can throw 10 yds as easy completions! The receivers everywhere are running free. Watch the Rod run his D in Dallas & he is jamming WRs. I see why they wanted Rod here b/c he would’ve run his D & not Frazier who’s just calling the plays. I promise you if Lovie during this bye makes that change in bump & run then you will see differences. On offense we can’t run b/c once again ppl know when we running most times. Doug Martin hasn’t lost anything & Rainey is shifty yes but he’s not better overall than Martin. Our coaching needs to learn how to adjust, or else they will either join Morris w/ another horrible team or Schiano who’s watching on Sundays like us
October 13th, 2014 at 9:54 am
Spittoon, these days that’s anywhere it lands. Yeah the Bucs have become liike that receptacle. Gross nasty loogies spat into the fanbase’s faces. It’s humiliating being drenched in spittle.
October 13th, 2014 at 10:04 am
Not worried.
Raheem got blown out
Schiano got blown out
Lovie is getting blown out.
This was a terrible, talentless team
Thanks, Mark Dominick
It’s gonna take time
Lovie can do it.
Everything after that is just more of the same crying we’ve been doing for years.
We have drafted talent this year.
Lovie gets another
This one doesn’t matter
October 13th, 2014 at 10:08 am
I was one of those Gator fans screaming at the top of my lungs saying to steal Mullen away weeks ago… Offer him a freaking statue if you have to… Muschump sucks and we should have convinced him to go back to Texas when that job became open this past summer…
Only want Mullen in The Swamp if we can’t hire him in The Big House though 🙂
Would GLADLY take Freeze at either place as well!
Back to our Steelers game a couple weeks ago… I said it very loud and clear that they were not a good team defensively and what do you know it only took a loss to the Browns for Buc fans to realize this… They signed freaking James Harrison out of retirement and started him against us 6 days later! Not impressed by that win or the play the following week against the Saints… We CLEARLY are the team that played yesterday and in Atl… Teams that are GOOD/AVERAGE/MEDIOCRE do not get blown out TWICE in a season we managed to get that done in a month…
Everyone needs to stop with bring back Schiano and Gruden non-sense
Schiano wouldn’t have been hired anywhere in the NFL had we not given him a job sorry but average Big Least coaches don’t get NFL HC jobs…. He’s not a GREAT talent evaluator either… He drafted with the help of Dom and other scouts every player he didn’t make the sole decision by himself… But for fun lets go over them..
2012 draft – Mark Barron (average) Doug Martin (unfortunately a one year wonder so far) LVD (History books good) Najee Goode (no comment needed) Keith Tandy (backup to a NFL record setting defense speaks volumes to me) Michael Smith (Mr. Inactive everyone!) Drake Dunsmore(gonzo)
2013 draft – Jonathan Banks (some upside) Mike Glennon (garbage time stat padder hurray!) Akeem Spence (avg player) William Gholston (decent to good player) Steven Means (below avg can’t stay healthy) Mike James ( 1 or 2 good games and he’s a Bucs LEGEND somehow)
So Schiano gets credit for the average to great players but it is Dom’s fault for the scrubs? Makes sense
Just like bringing Lovie back because of the nostalgia was a bad idea same would be with Gruden… I’m TIRED of living in our PAST greatness and trying to bring us back to those glory days… This is a COMPLETELY different NFL now… I cannot stress that enough… Look at the defensive penalties increase just from last season to this season…
Why can’t we get someone who wants to forge THEIR own path in our history books?? Ya Schiano was something different but he was also our second choice! We had Chip till the last minute and he backed out… So what do we do? Well of course we don’t look at any OC’s of existing NFL teams that are actaully good and consistent we dip back into the college pool and pluck a mediocre at best Big Least college coach..
I still don’t know why I bother some moron will literally type we should bring back Gruden or Schiano and be serious about it like 5 posts later..
October 13th, 2014 at 10:30 am
After a while you’ll just become numb to all the losing, some predicted the Bucs would start 0-6. The Steeler win was nice, over a losing team most likely in the end. The Bucs have been through enough losing seasons in a row to expect a better team than what we are seeing. You know, a light at the end of the tunnel. That’s not too much to ask for or expect. Some accountability would be inspiring, not this freak show of a gypsy circus. Sorry, the steam pouring out of my vents seems highly pressurized.
October 13th, 2014 at 10:43 am
Well being a “Yankee” from the Northeast gave me a little more insight than some Buc’s fans to Greg Schiano and just what a turnaround he did up at Rutgers. He is/was far better than a “mediocre at best” Big East college coach when you look at the culture change he brought there and here in Tampa. Rah’s team checked out in 2011 and was loaded with loafers, head cases, and guys who were barely NFL caliber. Schiano left a better team for Lovie than he inherited from Morris in 2012, and what has “a proven winner” Lovie done with it so far? Regardless we are stuck with Lovie for better or worse for at least this season and probably next, so he probably has at least 26 games to prove he is still NFL relevant (or not?).
October 13th, 2014 at 10:45 am
^^^
That was all for you Phillip…
October 13th, 2014 at 11:18 am
@toes
How can you sit there and say players didn’t check out on Schiano when all we heard ALL off-season was how happy everyone was that he was gone? Starting 0-8 isn’t checking out? They weren’t loafers as well? Were you watching the same games I was? Or is it because you are a Schiano supporter and have your blinders on?
Congrats he got rid of the Sean Jones and the Sabby’s of the world BUT he still kept around Myron and Lequan Lewis though and plenty others… ANY HC would have cleaned house after Raheem that is not a compliment.. We didn’t hire him to clean house and make it better for the NEXT HC we hired him for winning games, taking us back to the playoffs, and winning a damn SUPERBOWL… He FAILED and SUCKS get over it..
Great that he turned around Rutgers… From a horrible football program to mediocre… His Big East record alone speaks volumes(68-67 I believe or something close?).. He shouldn’t have EVER been hired in the first place..
The Glazors have made 3 straight panic HC’s hires… Raheem was interviewing for the Denver job I believe so we promoted him from DC(he had for a whole 3 days) to HC… FAILED… Chip Kelly bails on us at the alter saying their I do’s and we run off and rush to get another college HC… FAILED… Okay inexperience NFL HC’s haven’t worked so lets give the fans what they want let’s get back into their good graces.. How do we do that?? Well sh!t we were successful when we had historic defense’s in the 90’s lets go back and revisit that and see which Coach is available to bring us back… The good ole days of grind them out football or “Buc Ball” (since that was so damn entertaining) as most would call it and hired Lovie without really interviewing any other potential candidates (IDC who reportedly interviewed we had a prearranged agreement with Lovie) or wondered out loud why the hell did Lovie get fired from Chicago?
October 13th, 2014 at 11:33 am
No blinders Phillip.
I’ve seen speculative articles on JBF that said the team was tuning Schiano out, but most of the veteran/impact players are quoted saying he was a good coach (Joseph, GMC, Barber come to mind). The local media made the situation seem far worse than it actually was…probably because a certain Tampa radio “celeb” was upset over his boy Freeman getting exposed and had an axe to grind? In fact the only real complaint I heard from players is that Schiano didn’t listen to them enough or treat them like adults. Well based on what we’ve seen so far this year perhaps there was good reason for that?
October 13th, 2014 at 11:39 am
I’ll only add this. Prior to the Bucs hiring Schiano, he was approached by a few NFL teams trying to coax him away from Rutgers. Not just the Bucs.
October 13th, 2014 at 11:41 am
Toes….I had season tickets last season. I never saw the team quit on Schiano on the field. Not once. They may not have liked him, but they never quit…
@Seattle is an example.
October 13th, 2014 at 11:45 am
Jim Walker sez:
“@ToesOnTheLine
2007 Gaines Adams
2008 Aqib Talib
2009 Josh Freeman
2010 Gerald McCoy
2011 Adrian Clayborn
2012 Mark Barron Doug Martin
2013 No pick
2014 Mike Evans
I see player on that list that has panned out.”
Hey Jim: you can probably stretch that list of 1st round busts all the way back to the Bucs trading up with the Bills to land Kenyatta Walker in 2001!
Hey Buccfan37: I’m with you on the accountability! How the hell can this team be so ****ing bad year after year after year! The Rams managed 6 wins in 3 seasons back in 2007 to 2009. The Bucs are about as talent depleted as those sods. Some teams compete year after year and even have decent records when they rebuild like the ****ing Cowboys with their meddling owner or the Pats, the Steelers, and the Packers to name a few; but not our Bucs! I daresay that the Bucs of 2013-2015 could rival the Rams of 2007-2009 in ineptitude though they might edge their win total by a couple of wins thanks to Schiano actually getting 4 under his belt before he was shown the door! Yuck, really bad football in Tampa and St Louis; its hard to believe that these were 2 of the best run franchises from 1997 until 2002!
October 13th, 2014 at 11:54 am
Ya the team didn’t quit alright… 0-8 to start the year…. 42-17 loss to the Saints in the last game of the season.. Just you know examples…
Him being approached and hired are two COMPLETELY different things… Mike Sherman was APPROACHED for our HC job as well…
October 13th, 2014 at 11:57 am
Love how people blame stuff on the local media… I don’t even listen to Tampa radio or on here and I came to the same conclusions all by myself pretty sure they are plenty others.. When you suck you suck.. Period
October 13th, 2014 at 12:01 pm
That 0-8 start included only two “blowouts” and those were 20 and 18 point less, which combined are still not as much as the 42 point loss to Atlanta. It is less than the 30 point loss yesterday I suppose.
October 13th, 2014 at 12:37 pm
I think over the years the Bucs have more negative NFL records on the books than any other team. We definitely have made other teams shine in the record books!!!
October 13th, 2014 at 1:06 pm
Oh, the life and times of a Bucs fan. Just think if we had a respectable competitive winning team. The bad has become unbearable. At least we have a team to root for, yeah that’s some solace. In times like these, I’ll have to take it.
October 13th, 2014 at 1:20 pm
I agree, SF vs KC in the world Series. Notre Dame winning at Fla. St., not likely imo. The Irish are lucky and they do stage comebacks almost every game, not an indication of luck. This is one of the rare occurences I prefer the Florida team to win, not a ND fan.
October 13th, 2014 at 1:57 pm
The defense is historically bad but seriously Joe am NFL record wouldn’t have been set against this defense if the offense had done anything. 62 yards total in the first half
October 13th, 2014 at 2:08 pm
These uniforms are bad luck, it’s time for a throw back game. Let’s take it back to last year
October 13th, 2014 at 3:26 pm
There is hope. This is my theory: Lovie was down in him basement all of last year and unbeknownst to him, there was a Radon gas leak which happens in many basements. The Radon poisoning impacted his cognitive thinking which translated into this unspeakable season. Luckily the effects of the Radon will wear off after two more years and then he will be able to coach again. Not to worry.
October 13th, 2014 at 10:45 pm
We SUCK AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 13th, 2014 at 10:51 pm
If Tom Brady is our Signal caller , we are a different much more competing Offense. Automatically. I hate all of our corners.we still need a middle linbacker.
October 13th, 2014 at 10:59 pm
Our D ends str8 get disrespected on the field ( No Pass Rush ).
I say start a FIRE SALE. MCCOY & DAVID only guys safe. Mabey retain D.G. & barron. Everything else on the D must go.