Report: Bucs Looking Trade Up To No. 2

May 6th, 2014

johnnysabanJohnny! Johnny! Johnny!

This evening, well connected Mike Florio, of ProFootballTalk.com and NBC Sports, is sharing word he’s hearing around the league that the Bucs are looking to trade up to snatch the Rams’ No. 2 overall pick in the NFL Draft.

Here’s the link: Perhaps Florio is talking to the same people Peter King is?

Joe highly doubts the Bucs would be trading up to satisfy fans afflicted with the Sammy Watkins Fetish. There are too many quality receivers in this draft to be seduced so passionately by Watkins. Trading up, in Joe’s opinion, means only one thing.

111 Responses to “Report: Bucs Looking Trade Up To No. 2”

  1. Luther Says:

    I would be really pissed if that happens. We need lots of players. To move up to the #1 slot would take a lot of ammunition.

  2. Luther Says:

    I meant #2 slot

  3. Shawnbucfan Says:

    Smokescreen to bait others to trade up.

  4. Harry Says:

    Ok, this is freaking fascinating. Regardless what Joe thinks, or what MGMers think, if the Bucs trade up to #2, who will they pick? Probably not Sammy, since the draft is loaded with WRs, that would not be a smart move. But Mack? Manziel (please God)?, Maybe Clowney? Bortles (I hope not)? Interesting debate material.

  5. bucrightoff Says:

    So the Bucs still have a ton of holes, and are going to sacrifice 3-4 premium picks? Les Snead is executive of the millenium if he turns RGIII into 5 or more first round picks.

  6. Barry Says:

    You want him? Go get him. Be done with it. If true, good move. Perhaps Mack is their target. Either way, go get your franchise player.

  7. DallasBuc Says:

    I hope this is true. I’m all for it. Manziel a Buc? Yes!

  8. Keith Says:

    Pulling for you Joe.

    F the haters. Manziel is a damn good football player than what we have. If Tedford is worth a crap, he can put together a good offense and RayJay will be rockin!

  9. Jon Says:

    Pls don’t. Put the phone down Lovie and back away from the table.

  10. Vic Says:

    MOve up. Draft Johnny. Trade Glennon for a third. Draft Aaron Murray in the third, and really solidify this position for the future. Get a good year out of McCown and trade him for a fourth to some needy contender.

  11. Captain Jack Says:

    This just in….every team is looking to trade up and down and draft every player available.

    I cannot wait until all this speculation is over and the Bucs make their pick!

  12. Snook Says:

    This is smoke from the Rams to draw the Browns out for a trade.

  13. doubting thomas Says:

    If they trade up who cares if it’s a deep draft at WR we won’t have any picks to get one. Hope it is a deep WR & OL undrafted free agent market.

  14. Bill T Says:

    Boy I hope not. With Cleveland passing on him, he’ll be there at 7. I wouldn’t take him at 7 either but at least we aren’t giving up picks to move to 2nd

  15. Bob Digital Says:

    Trading up doesn’t mesh with the “value” L&L covet.

  16. robert6 Says:

    smelling more like a smokescreen every minute.

    if they did it we would be pulling and ATL or WASH type move….how’s that worked out?

    Julio Jones was a key cog in Atlanta getting 10 yards from the Super Bowl.–Joe

  17. gulfcoast Says:

    Yawn. Smokescreen. All day. We don’t have the ammo to trade up plus if we do, I’d put money on it being clowney and his lazy work ethic or Sammy Watkins, to fill a high offensive need that we have for this season. Too bad so sad for those fans afflicted with the Johnny manziel fetish. Nah…. Good job at Louis at driving up your price for Oakland or another adjacent drafting team.

  18. Adrian Says:

    I hope this is true. No matter who the Bucs pick at 2 it will be a way better player than someone they get at 7.

  19. Sweets Willie Says:

    “Johnny I just slipped my extra room card to you”

  20. DallasBuc Says:

    If they have decided that Manziel is the best QB to run this Tedford offense then it is worth the price to move up. Bring Manziel to Tampa!

  21. Northend Says:

    Hypothetical situation
    -Trade up for the rams top pick and second first rounder.
    Give away This years first,next years first and2016 2nd and Glennon (maybe Martin)
    Use the #13 to trade back with San Fran for example and pick up their first,and 2 2nd rounders.
    I realize it is very draft day the movie but it would give us 2 firsts,3 2nds and a third.
    For a team that wants to win now it gives us top notch talent(now) and the assumption is that if we win the firsts we give away would be low first rounders and value wise it would work.

  22. UnderDog Lefty Says:

    YES, let it be so! Go get em Lovie!

  23. Ted Says:

    What will all the Manziel haters have to say if Lovie makes Johnny Football our 1st round pick? I wonder. I guess all that talk about having faith in Lovie goes out the window. You all better get on the bandwagon, because Johnny may very well be coming to town. And really, if Manziel becomes a superstar and proves a lot of you guys that are down on him wrong, would that really be so horrible…? If Johnny ends up our QB, I’ll be rooting for him.

  24. bucrightoff Says:

    FYI yesterday there was a report that Manziel won’t get past the Browns at 4. Today there is a report they won’t draft him at 4. It’s a bunch of lies and BS from March to (ugh) May now, but the last 72 hours before the draft are ridiculous.

  25. meh Says:

    Clowney!

  26. bucrightoff Says:

    Northend Says:
    May 6th, 2014 at 7:51 pm
    Hypothetical situation
    -Trade up for the rams top pick and second first rounder.
    Give away This years first,next years first and2016 2nd and Glennon (maybe Martin)
    Use the #13 to trade back with San Fran for example and pick up their first,and 2 2nd rounders.
    I realize it is very draft day the movie but it would give us 2 firsts,3 2nds and a third.
    For a team that wants to win now it gives us top notch talent(now) and the assumption is that if we win the firsts we give away would be low first rounders and value wise it would work.
    ____________________________________________________

    I want the drugs this guy is on.

  27. Mort Says:

    Clowney perhaps?

  28. ToesOnTheLine Says:

    Beyond smoke and entering full on fog!

  29. Dick2111 Says:

    More smoke. Thursday can’t come soon enough.

  30. Bucfan#37 Says:

    This draft industrial complex is becoming as irritable as the mock variety.

  31. Mr. Patrick Says:

    People keep saying not to draft Sammy Watkins early because the draft is full of good receivers. If that’s the case, the why not get the one that is head and shoulders above the rest? If everybody on the road is driving a Camaro, I want to be driving a Ferrari

  32. Anzac Buc Says:

    Smoke and mirrors.

  33. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    One Buc is putting out so much smoke these days you’d think Florida legalized pot.

  34. gatrbuc17 Says:

    Absolutely Fckn Stupid to trade up to 2 for such a Huge Gamble as JF.

  35. gatrbuc17 Says:

    In Fact I would put that right up there with trading Steve Young for Vinny

  36. ToesOnTheLine Says:

    Won’t happen for Johnny, McCown wasn’t brought in to sit and any team that drafts Manziel will have instant fan pressure to play him. QB controversy hasn’t been Lovie’s style

  37. gatrbuc17 Says:

    ” Julio Jones was a key cog in Atlanta getting 10 yrds from the SB” – Joe
    Yeah way to ignore the fact that he is also the key cog in Atlanta being depleted at numerous other positions.

    Nobody’s ignoring anything. Don’t make up stuff. –Joe

  38. Architek Says:

    robert6 Says:
    May 6th, 2014 at 7:41 pm
    smelling more like a smokescreen every minute.

    if they did it we would be pulling and ATL or WASH type move….how’s that worked out?

    Julio Jones was a key cog in Atlanta getting 10 yards from the Super Bowl.–Joe
    ————————————

    Correction/Addition – Julio is also the reason they have no OLine (hence Trueblood) or defensive depth!

  39. Bill T Says:

    Just read that Bucs shopping Glennon for a 2nd. I don’t want him gone but as I said when they were about to bring in McCown, a 2nd Rounder would be my value (not a 4th).
    Would make it more likely to go after their #1 QB choice

  40. Bucfan#37 Says:

    Welcome to the JMMM, the Johnny Manziel madness mob, Plenty of barnstorming for this QB has got many fans shifting opinions from opposing to now favoring this move, damn the consequences. Hell, let’s trade away all of our picks for years to get this guy. If Glennon goes to the Rams, that team is already solid and rising. Glennon would be better off as a backup there.

  41. sçoobs Says:

    Hot Thai women are back! And no Pop Ups!

  42. gatrbuc17 Says:

    Vic…….Did you bump you head or are you smoking crack. Move up to two for JF and then draft Murray in the Third???????? Solidify our Future”?????????///
    Jeesh how the FCK can we spend two draft picks on QBs this yr when we just gave McCown 5 mil a Yr and need so much more than QB???????????

  43. Bucfan#37 Says:

    As far as Manziel haters, I have’nt read much of that here. Now Glennon haters, those are a dime a dozen in these parts.

  44. Eric Says:

    Go for it Lovie.

  45. William Says:

    Rams will probably receive McCown as part of the trade. Glennon will stay with Bucs. Here’s the kicker:

    Bridgewater is coming to Tampa…

  46. finishers Says:

    Texans will take mack and we will take clowny

  47. Aaron Says:

    QB is the only position that equates to winning the lottery…If you hit your team is set for 10yrs…Rams won’t trade till they see what Houston does…If L&L feel like he’s their guy…I’m on board

  48. Pewter_Power Says:

    People in NFL circles know the Texans are taking Mack #1. Lovie is clamoring to move up to #2 and get Clowney. Mark my words.

  49. abdominal snowman Says:

    Would not be my favorite move. I like moving back, but it would guarantee we could have either clowney, mack or Watkins. If lovie would give up a 2nd for gaines Adams or two 3rds for Marshall
    I could see him go in hard after a potential franchise player.

  50. Dave Says:

    I would take Clowney all day. I don’t buy into Johnny Footbal, but would support him if that is who they choose. Go to #2 they get one of them

  51. MadMax Says:

    Def wouldnt be for JF,,,HAHAHAHAHA! I doubt its even true, but if so, Im thinking Robinson or Mack!

  52. Mathius Says:

    Well it will be a fun day at the draft if that happens.

    To move from pick 7 to pick 2 what would it take according to the draft manual?

    Pick 2 is worth 2,600 point
    Pick 7 is worth 1500 point our 2nd (510) our 3rd (235) no 4th our 5th (38.5) and no 6th and 7th 11.8

    The Bucs total draft is worth 2295.3, add Mike Glennon or another 3rd, you get 2530.3.
    We would be trading our future .

    NOT HAPPENING. Johny Manziel might be there in the second round anyways.

  53. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    No way Lovie & Light put it all on the line to trade up…..it would be a huge gamble & its just not in their nature & not necessary.
    This is total BS.

  54. gatrbuc17 Says:

    LAY IT DOWN Mathius!!!!
    Stick with 7 or trade back for Donald then get Moncrief in the 2nd.

  55. Maze Says:

    Will be having sweet dreams tonight. Manziel equals Superbowl bound. Haha, belive it Johnny haters

  56. gatrbuc17 Says:

    Joe Im flattered that you finally responded to a comment from me. Maybe “ignore” was too strong for Joe. I consider telling only half the story ignoring the other half. I have many Atl fans and while they Love JJ they also realize how badly he set the team back. I can link you articles if you like.

    Considering there’s probably about six sides to every story, you must be a real fun guy at parties. –Joe

  57. Burg Says:

    Bortles!

  58. PhantomVash808 Says:

    If the Bucs trade up I will be so disappointed, we need all the picks we have.

  59. feelthepewterpower Says:

    it’s all about the page clicks ;)

    Where’s there is smoke…there is the NFL Draft.

  60. rayjay1122 Says:

    I hope the NFL moves the draft back to April next season so we don’t have to endure the madness so long ever again. I am all mocked out. So much speculation and the fact is that not even the Bucs know who they are going to end up with.

  61. gatrbuc17 Says:

    Im over this two week delay in the Draft.
    Anyone wanna watch some PBA with me and have a PBR?

  62. gatrbuc17 Says:

    Joe youre invited too. Cept Im way up here in Montana

  63. Patrick McV Says:

    You are going lose your credibility with this crazy talk over and over about JF . NOT going to happen dude .

  64. Patrick McV Says:

    If we move up to 2 it’s for Mack not JF

  65. Couch Fan Says:

    I just can’t wait til this is over with sheesh.

  66. Patrick Says:

    Mike Glennon is better than anyone HOU or STL currently has at quarterback; don’t be surprised if he’s part of the deal.

  67. JBFstalkingjohnnyfootBALLS Says:

    You guys just can’t be this dumb. No Way in Hell Bucs fans this stupid. They say that about (some)Buc fans. Lacking football I.Q. NO WAY THE BUCS AND A DEFENSIVE COACH WOULD TRADE UP FOR A RISKY PLAYER LIKE JOHNNY MANZIEL WHEN THEY COULD DRAFT CLOWNEY OR MACK. Especially after a defensive team just won a SB. The earliest the Bucs will draft a QB, is if they trade down. And I truly believe they have Carr as there top rated QB on there draft board. Ever team have the QB’s rated differently on there draft board.

    To all Johnny Nutt Tuggers. You have another 2 days to continue your wet dream. Can’t wait til it’s over with. And let the crying begin!

  68. gatrbuc17 Says:

    I think you have a point Patrick.

  69. delson Says:

    Watkins has the ability to make our qbz better than they actually are. Manziel is tim tebow 2k14.

  70. Gusjackson Says:

    Unless st.louis is will to take a 1st, a 3rd a second next year and Glennon…. This won’t happen

  71. Buc1987 Says:

    Absolute total hogwash!

  72. b.Bruce Says:

    what if we trade Glennon and get a quarterback hi in the draft.and it turns out to be a Steve Young Vinny Testaverde all over again.what if Glennon turnes out to be the next Joe Montana Tom Brady type.and whoever we draft is a bust.I hope not I want Johnny or Blake.I just don’t want to get rid of Glennon.this happen once don’t let it happen again.

  73. b.Bruce Says:

    what if we get rid of Glennon, and it turns out to be a Vinny and steve young crap again.who remembers what I’m talking about.

  74. Buc1987 Says:

    @Joe…after the Browns take Manziel. Will it really be over? Will it FINALLY be over? If Manziel is not drafted by the Bucs, do I still have to look at Manziel pics anymore on JBF? 2 more days and it’s over, right?

    It’s been a looooooooooooooooooooong wait for this draft to get here. Although Joe has kept us occupied while waiting. When I hear the words such and such select Johnny Manziel QB out of Texas A&M, I can then breathe a sigh of relief right? Because the Manziel articles will stop, right?

    If the Bucs take him. I have to support him and them. Then again, if some of you thought Joe’s articles of love for Freeman we’re bad, you’re in for a lot of trouble if they draft Manziel. Sad to say it, but that might actually finally drive me away from JBF. The day in and day out articles on Manziel would continue, only now it would intensify and become unbearable.

    Yes Joe unbearable.

  75. nate Says:

    Dont do it unless we can pull of sumthing like draft day movie……

  76. Patrick in VA Says:

    @Patrick – solid point. If it’s going to happen, I wouldn’t mind seeing Glennon being used to mitigate the blow of the trade

  77. Mr Magoo Says:

    Joe is there any way you can add a breathalyzer to your web site that must be passed before fans can post comments?

  78. nate Says:

    Okay just heard a rumor bucs trade doug martin and swap picks with the rams

  79. Jeffobrien Says:

    Hope this happens we have never had a player like him with this much hype out of college. The camera crews would be everywhere nfl network and bspn would be showing him in those nice new uniforms 10 times a day. Kids will by his jersey and the bucs will be revelant again

  80. DavidM Says:

    Choking on all the smoky BS

  81. gatrbuc17 Says:

    Joe. I think we are getting off on the wrong foot. I enjoy your articles and tune in every day. I usually dont comment. I believe your JF love has soured most of us true Bucs fans a bit but I still tune in. Im sorry if my sardonic nature gets people riled sometimes. JJ was a Huge reach for Atl which really only panned out because they were so Right about him being an Elite WR. I dont think a jump to 2 is good for the Bucs in ANY way. But Im just an old Carpenter that went to the first 20 yrs of Bucs home games without missing a game. Dont think I’m a hater
    -Gatr

  82. bucrightoff Says:

    nate Says:
    May 6th, 2014 at 10:49 pm

    Okay just heard a rumor bucs trade doug martin and swap picks with the rams
    _________________________________________________________

    Rams aren’t taking that lowball offer. They got 3 firsts and a second for RGIII. They’ll expect similar again. The Rams don’t have to trade, they want to but only for the right price. A running back in a league with their value declining to move back 5 spots? Not good enough.

  83. Harry Says:

    “…you must be a real fun guy at parties…”

    Joe, The Mob does not go to parties. They call the cops for neighbors leaving mattresses in the front yard. The Mob is mad bc they never get invited to the party

  84. Joe Says:

    what if we trade Glennon and get a quarterback hi in the draft.and it turns out to be a Steve Young Vinny Testaverde all over again.what if Glennon turnes out to be the next Joe Montana Tom Brady type.and whoever we draft is a bust.I hope not I want Johnny or Blake.I just don’t want to get rid of Glennon.this happen once don’t let it happen again.

    By that logic, the Bucs should never:

    * draft a CB again because Myron Lewis sucked.

    * draft another defensive end again because Gaines Adams and Da’Quan Bowers and Adrian Clayborn and sackless Kyle Moore stunk up the joint.

    * draft another offensive tackle because Kenyatta Walker was a walking flag.

    If a general manager is scared to make a move, you may as well just trade all your draft picks away and go all George Allen and get over-the-hill veterans that nobody else wants.

  85. Joe Says:

    Joe, The Mob does not go to parties. They call the cops for neighbors leaving mattresses in the front yard. The Mob is mad bc they never get invited to the party

    Adds up.

  86. Cmurda Says:

    If we trade up to #2, the pick is Manziel. If the Texans for some stupid reason pass on Clowney, I have to admit, that would have to be tempting. That said, I stick to Johnny. He’s by far the best Qb of this class. He has the “it” factor that the others don’t possess. Most of the teams out there know this. In the lying season, you can believe 10% of what you hear or read. If we dont jump to #2 then we will not have a shot at Johnny. No way he gets by Browns and Raiders. If we dont move up, we would be moving on from Johnny. The Bucs moving to #2 is one of the few things I believe. If the Bucs were able to finagle a 3rd for Glennon, I dont know if it would take more than a 3rd rd pick plus our first round pick to get up the 5 spots.

  87. WalkdaPlank Says:

    Thinking of how heavily the Joes would drop Mancrush bombs on this site every day if he was actually drafted by the Bucs is a disturbing thought lol. I would definitely visit less often, but probably still check back at least on gamedays and such.

    Of course I’d want Mancrush to succeed if his offense is the Bucs offense, though that doesn’t mean I expect it, especially behind the Bucs terribly thin and practically guard-less O-line which probably will not improve much if the Bucs have to use picks to trade up to 2nd.

    Even if I were a Mancrusher I’d probably still find the Joes hard-on for Johnny a bit too much. But whatever it’s their site.

  88. Joe Says:

    Joe is there any way you can add a breathalyzer to your web site that must be passed before fans can post comments?

    :)

    That wouldn’t be much fun then. :)

  89. Shawnbucfan Says:

    No breathalyzer joe I would be able to enjoy your wonderful site during non business hours :)

  90. Patrick Says:

    Here’s a good question: what if we traded up to #2 and Clowney was still up for grabs? Is it Johnny or Jadaveon (assuming that HOU passes up on Johnny too)?

  91. Buc1987 Says:

    @Harry…what Mob?

  92. feelthepewterpower Says:

    whoever it is, let’s just hope it’s not another Booker Reese, particularly if we use draft picks to trade-up to select a player. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/longform/nfl-draft-82/index.html?xid=aol_home&icid=maing-grid7%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl34%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D473090

  93. passthebuc Says:

    That trade would just about par with the one the Glazers made for Gruden.

    They both made sense.

    I have some ocean front property in Orlando I will sell you cheap

  94. L&L Buc Says:

    If Lovey can’t get over a strip pole and a mattress in the front yard how will he ever tolerate the girls in the motel room on Saturday nights? I would sure love to have the chance of making some substantial wagers with you Johnny Man Child worshipers. All that said they would be glad for Thursday night to get here has my agreement. For what it’s worth, Channel 8 TV said Florio said it was going to be Clowney. (11:00 pm News.) At least that’s what my ears heard. I know Florio was reported at (9:56pm PFT) it was Manziel. Who can you believe? Reminds me of two guys talking and one guy telling the other that everyone else besides them were crazy and sometimes he had doubts about the other guy. QUESTION? Who will everyone on here say is crazy Thursday night? This is certainly a heated debate.

  95. BUC IT Says:

    I really want the bucs to draft Manziel but I don’t think we should be willing to give up all that much to move up and grab Johnny or any other player…..especially if the bucs are not planning on drafting a QB. This draft is very deep. If anything I would like to trade down. But with all that said I do hope we find our franchise QB!

  96. Maze Says:

    Credibility? Haha. Looking forward to see how the new regime attacks the draft.

  97. PRBucFan Says:

    The hard on for Johnny has got to be unbearable huh?

  98. White Tiger Says:

    Even this late in the week, you can’t believe anything you hear/read…but I would think the #2 position gets Lovie whatever he needs.

    If The Texans choose Johnny Football, then a superb edge rusher is available – if however the Texans select the edge rusher – Lovie gets “The Ted” his QB for which he can fashion his offense around!

    I believe the Bucs are desperately negotiating for this move…just don’t know if they have decided on WHO they will select if they make the deal for the #2 overall!?

  99. MadMax Says:

    Mack! Mack! Mack!

    Robinson! Robinson! Robinson!

    Watkins! Watkins! Watkins!

  100. Martinii Says:

    In my humble opinion this is a smokescreen. Bucs don’t have enough draft power to move up to 2 (draft point chart.) unless you are willing to part with future first and second rounders it is virtually impossible. You are not going to get a 2nd rounder for Glennon. If he was perceived as that good we would be fools for trading him. Finally the last time I checked Lovie Smith was the coach, not Mike Ditka.

  101. MTM Says:

    Not happening! L&L aren’t going backwards.

  102. BucsDraft Says:

    After seeing this hogwash I’m putting the phone down until Friday so I can see what Joe says about whatever happens on Thursday.

  103. Ted Says:

    I love how some of you guys still can’t accept that Joe may just get his wish. If you don’t like Manziel, that’s fine, it’s your right. But he may ultimately be your QB of the future in a matter of hours… I’ll support whomever we pick, even if I’m not 100% sold on the guy. Johnny hasn’t played a down in the league and some of you are already writing him off. Bucs fans have run a number of players out of town, but I won’t. I’m willing to give JF; a proven college talent/winner that may just turn into the star at QB that been lacking for so long; a shot. Maybe you should too; you might not have a choice.

  104. Couch Fan Says:

    I’m good with the fact we may draft a QB even though I dont agree with it, but if we must Manziel is the most excting QB in the draft so I’m ok with this. Just please not Carr at #7

  105. Couch Fan Says:

    Bucs fans have run a number of players out of town
    —————————-

    This is untrue but Buc fans dam sure say some crazy things. Lol

  106. Edgar Says:

    These rumors are worse then the next iPhone rumors….tomorrow cannot get here soon enough

  107. PRBucFan Says:

    Accept what? He has nothing but guesswork to offer just like anyone else. ;)

  108. Picaroon45 Says:

    I wonder if any “expert” catching wind of Rams/Bucs talks considered the Rams looking at trading their 13th pick up to the Bucs #7 with the Bucs gaining the Rams 2nd round selection? The Rams would get both a top DL & OL prospect with two picks in the top 7. The Bucs would have options at sliding QB, WR or OL at 13 and have two 2nd round picks.

    Draft chart has it 1500 (Bucs) – 1610 (Rams) in value.

  109. Mike10 Says:

    No way this move happens Joe. To draft a QB in the first rd and not to mention move up in a draft where you’re very limited in picks to get him, you had be ready to bet the farm, family and your job that he is your franchise guy for the next 10+ years. You must be positive he can’t fail! I know youre enamored by him, but he is no Luck. If they pick him, and u believe in him that much, then put your job here on the line just as Lovie would be doing.
    Kidding of course but I’m sure your heart dropped

  110. Nick H Says:

    Heisman Trophy winners in the NFL over last 25 years:

    Record: 159-203 (.439)
    Avg career length: 3.8 years
    Pro Bowls: 3 (Cam has 2, Bob Griffin has 1)
    Super Bowls: 0

  111. Chris Says:

    I would much rather pass on a QB this year and get Jameis next year. I think Jameis is the best prospect to come out of college since Luck. The kid has the arm/accuracy/scrambling ability. Also, he has the resolve he showed in the championship game to just never quit. We know he doesn’t get rattled and will do what it takes to win. Trading up for a qb this year when we have McCown thru this year just doesn’t make sense. If you are worried about having a veteran there to lead young Jameis, then re-sign McCown if he does well this year or find another journeyman veteran. I seriously think Joe needs to give up on this Johnny kick. It is just pure blind man love obsession at this point.

 
 

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