Window For Bucs To Release Williams

March 24th, 2014
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A good chunk of Mike Williams’ guaranteed cash doesn’t kick in for a year

Last year, former Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik signed Mike Williams to a four-year pact worth some $40 million. A good chunk of the cash is guaranteed.

Williams, after signing the contract, tore a hamstring so badly it required surgery. He was placed on injured reserved list and since, Williams’ behavior has been, well, interesting. He’s making news for all sorts of petty reasons, including a mattress in his front yard and having the gall to get knifed in his own house.

Many Bucs fans — Joe suspects the same crowd who prays the rosary nightly in hopes the Bucs draft Sammy Watkins — are demanding the Bucs release Williams right now. The nerve of Williams to allow someone to shove a blade in his leg at home!

Perhaps in a few months, the Bucs just might grant these crazy fans their wish. Per Mike Garafolo of FoxSports.com, the Bucs have a window that closes next March to release Williams with limited hit on their salary cap.

The Bucs signed Williams to a four-year, $40-million contract extension last summer, though only $9.4 million of the deal is fully guaranteed. Another $5.2 million becomes guaranteed at the start of the 2015 league year.

The start of the 2015 league year has not been determined yet, but it is usually in March. This year, for example, the start of the league year was March 11, coinciding with the ringing of the free agency dinner bell.

Williams is scheduled to earn $1.2 million this season, plus a $1 million roster bonus, per RotoWorld.com

97 Responses to “Window For Bucs To Release Williams”

  1. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    As the legendary Raheem Morris used to say, “I’ll tolerate you until I can replace you.”

  2. mike n Says:

    The thing I don’t understand is why did we extend him in the 1st place. We give him an extention in July and a month later we find out schiano and Dom had grown tired of him. Did they not do their homework? We need an explosive reciever with or with out williams.

  3. zam Says:

    My guess is Joe’s never had to live next to really crappy neighbors.

  4. dee Says:

    Trade him for a six round draft pick get him the hell out of here.

  5. Joe Says:

    My guess is Joe’s never had to live next to really crappy neighbors.

    In fact, Joe had to sick the county on his neighbor just last week for code violations.

  6. Architek Says:

    |Perhaps in a few months, the Bucs just might grant these crazy fans their wish. Per Mike Garafolo of FoxSports.com, the Bucs have a window that closes next March to release Williams with limited hit on their salary cap.|

    What is this suppose to mean and when does the fans not bear the responsibility for wanting to rid themselves of a obviously disturbed player. It’s posts like these that make me question people motives (including Joe’s). Help me understand what has Williams done to separate himself as a WR? what does he do exceptionally that’s not replaceable?

    He’s slow and route running is ok – hands were suspect after the new contract and you can get a decent size WR anywhere in the draft and runs better.

    You all must like losing.

  7. Joe Says:

    As the legendary Raheem Morris used to say, “I’ll tolerate you until I can replace you.”

    That’s a more tempered response.

  8. Architek Says:

    I just dont get why are we making him out to be a superior or good WR, what has he done???

    He’s a dime a dozen.

  9. Joe Says:

    Help me understand what has Williams done to separate himself as a WR? what does he do exceptionally that’s not replaceable?

    Replaced by who? The shallow pool of free agents have been picked over. Even Tiquan Underwood found a job.

    Then again, the Bucs still have Skye Dawson.

    Joe swears he never heard anyone b!tch about Williams until someone left a mattress in his front yard. All of a sudden this guy is a combination of Michael Clayton and Charles Manson.

  10. Macabee Says:

    His contract also calls for a 600k workout bonus this year. The roster bonus and workout bonus have not been paid yet to my knowledge. With this information, the Bucs would only have to pay his 2014 guaranteed salary of 1.2mil if he is released before the other payments are due.

    His contract has no offset language and if he is picked up off waivers (I can’t recall if he has enough time that he could bypass waivers as a UFA),for presumably more than 1.2mil, the Bucs would owe him nothing. Therefore no cap hit at all.

    Trusting that Garafolo’s info is correct. I’ve only seen the contract data at RotoWorld.

  11. BucsfanNJ Says:

    I liked reading Joes take on possibly getting Desean Jackson, seems like his release might propogate the relase of Williams if the Bucs and Tedford can lure him in… Although its unlikely… its nice to dream!

  12. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Looks like Mike is happy with whatever guarantees he’s getting & doesn’t seem to care much about his career….he won’t be the first athelete to crap out after a big contract…..sad…

  13. Bucnnole Says:

    Hello DeSean,
    We have a nice empty locker for you right here. What’s that DeSean? You want to wear number 19? That’s fine, it’s available.

  14. Architek Says:

    Joe Says:
    March 24th, 2014 at 2:15 pm
    Help me understand what has Williams done to separate himself as a WR? what does he do exceptionally that’s not replaceable?

    Replaced by who? The shallow pool of free agents have been picked over. Even Tiquan Underwood found a job.

    Then again, the Bucs still have Skye Dawson.

    Joe swears he never heard anyone b!tch about Williams until someone left a mattress in his front yard. All of a sudden this guy is a combination of Michael Clayton and Charles Manson.
    —————————————————————–

    Wait Joe(s),
    You are going to the extreme – no one is arguing that the current roster has holes at WR but tell me how you continue to parlay the inevitable with someone who obviously lack critical thinking skills.

    I don’t care either way because like I said earlier – he’s no Dez Bryant or Colston or any mid tier or upper echelon WR. Bottom line he’s reaplaceable and you are about to see that. I fully support Lovie and Licht decision with this but you and anyone who follow the Bucs cannot deny this moron has a problem.

    I am looking toward the future and excited about getting better players in here. I don’t expect choir boys but I do expect decency and someone who knows when they are on the bubble. This is silly and you all are defending this immature idiot yet again. Can’t wait until puppy dog hit the airwaves – I know he’s a MW19 apologists.

    Spare me and I am glad you all aren’t the Bucs GM. If it were up to you we would Youngry or Schiano Rutgers still. People claim they want change and want to win but are afraid to let go of the past decisions that got us here to date.

  15. deminion Says:

    alota off season problems wouldnt release him tho we need WR’s bad keep mike will when healthy he can ball

  16. WalkdaPlank Says:

    You think it’s easy to just find a WR that makes the catches Mike makes? The Bucs got a steal of a 4th rounder in him and he helped make Freeman look like a star in 2010. Besides this season he is healthy, productive, hasn’t been arrested for stupid s(p)it like Talib or Tanard or Jeremy Stevens or caught popping pills like Eric Wright and under contract.

    He shows up to play on Sunday, why get rid of a great No.2 for a dumb reason like “he parties too hard” or “how dare he get stabbed by his brother”.

  17. Buc1987 Says:

    “Can’t wait until puppy dog hit the airwaves”

    Dear lord my puppy reference is taking hold.

  18. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Um, the information presented is misleading. After this season, the Bucs will be able to release him with little penalty. Doing so now would accelerate his gauranteed money, turning it into dead money.

    Mike Garafolo should do better homework.

  19. Buc1987 Says:

    WalkDaPlank…he did drop a lot of passes early in the season. That might have had something to do with the parties he was having on Friday and Saturday nights, but hey who cares right? Keep partying and keep dropping those balls Mike.

  20. robert6 Says:

    pretty clear he’s trying to pull a jfro and get cut. he got his 10 mill if I am reading things right.

    and he only get’s 1.2, and maybe another mill + workout bonus’.

    he could get that on the open market easily.

    love the guy, but he’s playing games hen he does not call back his employer. get it over with, it’s what he wants.

  21. THETRUTH Says:

    ARCHITEK:

    You must be A Saints fan o put colstons name in even next to Dez Bryant Only saint fans claim all their players as great.. I give you Brees and Graham..

    Williams actually has great hands and look at his numbers, no one sas he is top in th league but a dam good number 2…

    I am getiing sick of stupidity, get rid of those people around you , if you have to pay for them to hang around they aint your friend.. of family if stabbed

  22. WalkdaPlank Says:

    Again, has Mike been arrested? Caught with marijuana or other drugs? Gotten a DUI? Caught Winslowing in a parking lot? Popped pills? Been fined or suspended by Goodell? Been late to or skipped a team meeting? Killed animals? Shot a man? Shot himself in the leg at a club? Been accused of rape? NO!!

    All he has done was party when he couldn’t play football and then got stabbed by someone else (how dare he!) and you all wanna run him outta town? Wow.

  23. Chef Paul Says:

    I think Mike pulled out a gun and aimed it right at his brothers forehead. His brother then, with cat like reflexes, grabs a steak knife off the counter and swiftly tossed into Mike’s leg like f*cking Rambo and sh!t.

    Hey, since we are speculating…

  24. Architek Says:

    “WalkdaPlank Says:
    March 24th, 2014 at 2:32 pm
    You think it’s easy to just find a WR that makes the catches Mike makes? The Bucs got a steal of a 4th rounder in him and he helped make Freeman look like a star in 2010.”

    - Freeman killed this statement, LOL, but otherwise true. The acrobat catches are a attribute of his but beating press coverage, separation ability, consistent catches, route running, and explosion. All these things Williams don’t have – he is a possession WR, which is cool but for the drama and the baggage you can get a possession WR anywhere. I would take Nate Burleson over Williams or even the rookie in NO – Stills or Harry Douglas over slow inconsistent Williams.

  25. WalkdaPlank Says:

    @87- he played on a bad hammy before finally sitting out and had a mutinous Freeman and shaky, new Glennon throwing him the ball. VJax had drops too.

  26. Juan Says:

    Funny, some people want to get rid of Williams, I bet there was none of this type of talk when he went out last year with a hammy. Or any time before that like when the bucs got Vjax. The opposite, ppl were claiming we had the best WR duo in the league, or darn right close. The thing is that most people like ARCHITEK here, like to read too much into the news. The bucs cannot just get rid of MW just like that. Glad you are not the darn GM neither.
    Think of the future, and try to get picks, listen to what they offer and consider. I don’t care if he was a 4th rounder, he has produced like a 2nd or 3rd. Bucs don’t owe him much this year neither, why get rid of him? is he going to be a distraction too? If so get rid of Lovie for not being able to control his locker room. We have big holes and releasing MW doesn’t help anyone. Except Carolina or raiders that is.
    Keep him and try to trade him throughout the year, there is a trade deadline later in Oct. I believe, if not keep him. Next years WR might not be as deep and his value might go up, if not release him. Who knows, he might have straightened out by then. But just because he parties hard and gets stabbed, is not a reason to release him and create another sink hole in ONEBUC place.

  27. simeon 97 Says:

    dump the bum

  28. coolman Says:

    Get rid of williams go after djax. Vjax and djax be a gd combination

  29. WalkdaPlank Says:

    @Architek- I am for draftin a WR, this team needs help. But possession WR or deep threat WR or Red Zone threat WR you don’t just get rid of a WR like that for dumb reasons like this. And with thin depth at the position to boot.

  30. Ian P. Says:

    They clearly had a plan for the offensive line – cut/trade a few guys and sign a few guys – and they proceeded with that plan in a timely manner.

    With the wide receiving corps they clearly didn’t have the same plan. If they were going to cut Williams they would have already, and I can’t imagine how him being the VICTIM would change their minds.

  31. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Architek says
    “People claim they want change and want to win but are afraid to let go of the past decisions that got us here to date.”

    You mean like Mike Glennon?

    So, Williams “off season isssues” are…

    He scratched the paint on a door. (A very minor civil matter of $200)
    He did 43,000 worth of repairs on his OWN home. (Not a crime)
    He raps. (Not a crime)
    He got stabbed in his own home. (He was stabbed, making him the victim no matter how it is spun)

    We do not know what he has personally told the police. No one can blame him for witness statements. And just to clarify, witness statements ALWAYS change when they put things in writing. They say things without thinking clearly in the heat of the moment. Making them write things down force them to calm down and think.

    Also, witnesses listen to what other around them say and adjust their views.

    Mike would have nothing to do with that.

  32. Buc1987 Says:

    WalkDaPlank…I was talking about before the hammy. Oh well. It’s okay to still wear your #19 jersey man.

  33. tmaxcon Says:

    it’s a perfect time to start rebuilding the WR corps. let the new wr’s grow with a new QB and stop wasting time on journey man qb’s and wr who can’t stay out of the news.

  34. WalkdaPlank Says:

    You know VJax has a DUI or two, better throw him off the team too. Spence was caught with Mary Jane, Bowers accidentally brought a gun to an airport. Better put them on the chopping block too. And forget about Johnny Football Lol.

  35. Buc the Haters Says:

    When you always have ghetto ass people partying/chillin at your house, stuff like this is going to happen every so often. Mike may technically be a victim, but ‘guilt by association’ also kinda applies here. I.E. This type of thing would not happen to a guy like Gerald McCoy while he’s sitting at his crib watching a dvd with his wife. When you’re surrounded by thugs all the time, probably drinking and smoking weed, crazy sh*t is bound to happen at some point.

  36. lightningbuc Says:

    He scratched the paint on a door. (A very minor civil matter of $200)
    He did 43,000 worth of repairs on his OWN home. (Not a crime)

    ________

    Both of these statements are false. The incident with a door is a criminal matter, not civil, that is still ongoing. And the $43K damage was to a home he rented, not owned.

    If you want to stick up for the guy, fine. But don’t make stuff up.

  37. Buc1987 Says:

    Bonzai …you left out the 16 traffic violations.

  38. Joe Says:

    The incident with a door is a criminal matter, not civil, that is still ongoing. And the $43K damage was to a home he rented, not owned.

    A kitchen fire to a high end place. What an animal.

    Should have let the place burn down!

  39. Architek Says:

    THETRUTH Says:
    March 24th, 2014 at 2:40 pm
    ARCHITEK:

    You must be A Saints fan o put colstons name in even next to Dez Bryant Only saint fans claim all their players as great.. I give you Brees and Graham..

    Williams actually has great hands and look at his numbers, no one sas he is top in th league but a dam good number 2…

    I am getiing sick of stupidity, get rid of those people around you , if you have to pay for them to hang around they aint your friend.. of family if stabbed
    ——————————————-
    I hate the Saints but respect their personnel dept. I just know when I see true production (I also referred to Dez Bryant because he’s his peer and same draft class – not a Cow manure fan either).

    Prove to me he is a “great” #2 – he drops a lot of easy passes and can’t beat press coverage and his route running is just ok.

    Let me go down the list of #2 WRs and see where he falls:
    - Roddy White
    - Dwayne Bowe
    - Eric Decker
    - Alshon Jeffrey
    - TY Hilton
    - Victor Cruz
    - Malcom Floyd
    - Percy Harvin
    - Greg Jennings
    - Golden Tate

    I can keep going if you’d prefer but the point is he is a bottom tier possession WR with limitations – treat him accordingly.

  40. tmaxcon Says:

    buc1987

    bonzi is clearly blinded by something and his statements are so full of inaccuracies I am left to assume he is the janitor for the CMG krew.

  41. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    So far as the signings, I am not impressed with anyone but our new CB. But then, the guys repllaced were not impressive either.

    Lovie was smart. He went with a bunch of FA signings, knowing that fans watch for activity. But really, it hasn’t been quality activity. It has been quantity. The type of thimg that might sell tickets.

    But we’ll see if it translates to wins. The draft, I suspect, will have more impact.

  42. Buc1987 Says:

    Bonzai…I agree with all of that.

  43. Architek Says:

    BuccaneerBonzai,
    You are right – its good to back fill smartly. True enough but this guy also gets hurt a lot so chances of him playing through the season is minimal as well.

    I would keep him into the camp and see what we acquire and either deactivate him and use the roster spot on something else (OL) or I would just enforce the team’s standard, which Lovie said “players have to be good on and off the field.”

    Is there something wrong with this picture???

  44. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Buc1987 Says
    “Bonzai …you left out the 16 traffic violations.”

    tmaxcon Says
    “bonzi is clearly blinded by something and his statements are so full of inaccuracies I am left to assume he is the janitor for the CMG krew”

    Prove them.

  45. lightningbuc Says:

    A kitchen fire to a high end place. What an animal.

    Should have let the place burn down!

    ______________

    Joe, if you guys wanna take up for a guy who was kicked out of school for cheating, only to then quit on his teammates, coaches, and fans in the middle of the season after being given a second chance, go ahead.

    I’ll stand by my belief the guy was, is and probably always will be of questionable behavior. A leopard doesn’t change its spots.

  46. Buc1987 Says:

    Bonzai…Stroud reported it. So ask him to prove it.

    http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=109862#more-109862

  47. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Here is what I would do. I would wait until the facts are revealed. I would not be prejuduced toward him because of his family ties or because he raps or talks smack on twitter.

    That is nothing less than what anyone here would expect for themselves.

  48. Architek Says:

    When are we going stop apologizing for him and make him accountable?

    Thats the real question.

  49. Oil Derrick Brooks Says:

    @lightning

    Whoah, hold up. Dominick did an extensive background check into this guy. He’s been vetted by the best. This billowing smokestack of incidents are just coincidences and bad luck. It’s really not a fire!! Nothing to see here!!

  50. WalkdaPlank Says:

    @Architek- let’s not forget the QB’s those other guys have. A mutinous Freeman and a newcomer, shaky Glennon do not even compare.

  51. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Buc1987 Says
    “Bonzai…Stroud reported it. So ask him to prove it.”

    I agree. Stroud, who is well known for making things up, should prove it. So why believe him if he is not?

    I know you are clear-headed. Hasn’t the behavior of the media, especially local media, shown that it should be held accountable?

  52. Architek Says:

    You are right WalkdaPlank.

  53. Architek Says:

    Bonzai,
    I really respect and appreciate Stroud’s work – he’s one of the more credible reporters that’s renown.

  54. Eric Says:

    I hope Dominik didn’t stab the guy.

    Couldn’t bare the thought of him playing for Lovie.

    Mike might have used his caveman voice when reporting it was “that brother who drafted me” that had stabbed him. Cops were unable to decipher it.

    May have to bring in Raheem’s uncles to get to the bottom of this.

  55. tmaxcon Says:

    bonzi

    no one has the right to LIE to police even to cover for your brother which you posted today. not to mention your statement that mike has the right not to press charges those are very inaccurate. the state of Florida will press charges and most likely mw 19 or one of his upstanding citizen party goers will be charged with some level of obstruction which is a catch all covering everything from lying to police, eating evidence to hiding facts. NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO LIE TO ANYONE…. Your moral compass needs adjusted if you really believe those statements you made today.

    now i can’t prove your the janitor for CMG that was an assumption.

  56. WalkdaPlank Says:

    Mike is definitely no Calvin Johnson, but he’s also not a Kevin Ogletree either. Again, he’s not Talib, Tanard, Winslow, Vick, Hernandez, or Roethlisberger. If Mike gets thrown off the team for just liking to party in his 20′s, you FORGET Johnny Football.

  57. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Architek Says:
    March 24th, 2014 at 3:10 pm
    When are we going stop apologizing for him and make him accountable?

    Thats the real question.”

    Do you say the same thing of rape victims? Of robbery victims? Of other victims?

    When it comes down to it, Mike Williams has not done anything to demand being held accountable. This isn’t Aqib Talib we’re are talking about.

    Until this incident, everything has been his personal property or a tiny civil matter over a door.

    Even if he has all those traffic violations, which has not been proven, they could be simple parking tickets.

    And in the most recent case, please tell me when Mike has lied or misled the police?

  58. Owlykat Says:

    When you have two better WRs on this roster then letting Williams go for his cap space is relevant, but cutting him for getting stabbed by his brother without better talent here to replace him is not a good move. Schiano gave Talib away for next to nothing and now he is matured and a top talent who should be here playing for the Bucs. Lovie is smart enough to turn around bad boys instead of just cutting them. Then if they don’t produce at a high level, they will be replaced by someone who will. Let Lovie work his majic first, and don’t jump the gun!

  59. Architek Says:

    Wow Steve Duemig – stated this is probably it for MW.

  60. Buc1987 Says:

    Look all I care about is if it effects his play on Sunday. If he has a bad game, does one not look over their shoulder and think he might have partied too hard the night before?

  61. Oil Derrick Brooks Says:

    You can list all the things MW has or has not done prior do now, and argue whether or not it’s what a professional football player should be doing.

    The reality is Lovie said this before this even happened “There’s a pattern here and it’s disturbing.”

    So, if I’m a guy who cares about my job, and know my boss said this, you better dang believe when my boss calls after my brother STABS me, that I will call him back, and I will be honest with the police, etc.

  62. Buc1987 Says:

    “Hasn’t the behavior of the media, especially local media, shown that it should be held accountable?”

    That will NEVER happen. Nice thought though.

  63. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    Bucs need to sell jerseys with velcro names and velcro numbers.

  64. tmaxcon Says:

    bonzi

    nothing personal but you dropped the everyone that does not agree with you are iditots earlier today which is why i went after you. what makes your opinions so much better than others. i could care less about his partying but the bottom line is it’s a privilege to play in the NFL not a RIGHT the NFL / Bucs are his employers and have the right to set a standard they want their employees to follow. It’s not for me or you to agree or disagree with those standards that being said if he wants to get paid he need to follow said standards. One of the biggest misunderstanding of the nfl conduct policy is you don’t need to be arrested or proven guilty of anything to violate the policy or the general morals clause in a contract. your employers standards can be whatever they want. if you dont’ want to live up to those standards they don’t have to hire you or you dont’ have work for them. plenty of good jobs out there for those who want to work.

  65. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    tmaxcon Says
    “no one has the right to LIE to police even to cover for your brother which you posted today. not to mention your statement that mike has the right not to press charges those are very inaccurate. the state of Florida will press charges and most likely mw 19 or one of his upstanding citizen party goers will be charged with some level of obstruction which is a catch all covering everything from lying to police, eating evidence to hiding facts. NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO LIE TO ANYONE…. Your moral compass needs adjusted if you really believe those statements you made today.”

    First, show me where Mike Williams lied.

    Second, I NEVER said it is right to lie. I know it is hard to grasp english, so I will clarify. I “understand” a desire to protect family. I did not say anyone should lie. You need to go back to school.

    Third, you are mistaken. Because if Mike Williams refuses to press charges, the police will not do so, unless it is for avoiding them.

  66. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    tmaxcon Says
    “nothing personal but you dropped the everyone that does not agree with you are iditots…”

    First, that is not what I said. I said, “Anyone that wants to cut Williams is an idiot.”

    You have proven my point.

  67. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Second, tmaxcon, if this is coming after me, you really need practice. So keep it coming. I’m glad to help.

  68. SAMCRO Says:

    This is why Tampa Bay will always be a small market team rather than the storied franchises. For one thing, beside a few playoffs, and a SB in 38 years we are one of, if not the sorriest franchises to compete. The players know this, so now it’s understandable why FA’s are hard to sign without overpaying. No-one wants to play here. So I think when they decide that they want out of Tampa they just act up in the public eye a few times and we end up shipping them out to have better careers somewhere else. i.e. Talib.

    Some of the loudest factions of our fanbase are so intolerable and judgemental that they will run a good player off regardless whether their absence will be detrimental to the team. WE need to reach out to Mikey and save him from his personal demons rather than demonize him and (throw him in the nearest ditch). <— a Joe analogy

    I completely agree with you Joe!

  69. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    The_Buc_Realist Says
    “Bucs need to sell jerseys with velcro names and velcro numbers.”

    Now THAT is a quality joke! ;)

  70. Architek Says:

    The_Buc_Realist

    LOLOLOLOLOLO

  71. Cmurda Says:

    I think anybody would be remiss to not gain all the facts here before just cutting MW. This guy is set to earn peanuts and has a strong resume in his relatively short NFL career. If you truly believe that the NFL is a business then you better sure as shhh better treat it as such. The majority of the JBF posters would make terrible GM’s. The business angle is you keep this guy, try to get him help, and only when that fails release him if need be. Lovie runs a pretty tight ship but at the same time, this doesnt wreak of MW being a moron and we have zero depth at WR even if we did draft Watkins.

  72. BucsfanNJ Says:

    The_Buc_Realist Says:

    Bucs need to sell jerseys with velcro names and velcro numbers.
    _____________________________________________________

    That is a genius idea would have saved me plenty of $$ over the past years rather than buying Rudd, Caddilac Williams, Freeman, and revis, which are now being used as wall paper in my man cave

  73. biff barker Says:

    No one should be dumping in Williams as a player. In fact, with the upcoming trend of big physical corners, size and strength are just as important as speed.
    No, his fate should be made decided on how he represents the organization off the field.
    Anyone hear of any other Buc players reaching out to him? Nope. They aren’t hanging with him either. What does that tell you?

  74. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    lightningbuc, the courts will rule it a civil matter, if it gets that far even. Watch and see.

    And the damage to the home was not criminal. If he’s renting, as you say, then it also was a civil matter.

  75. Kramden Says:

    While it is good fodder for this site, we must agree that unless anyone really knows MW closely, this is all speculative what is or isn’t true about his character. That said, my opinion (based on nothing other than what I read – so that makes it essentially worthless) is that this much public trouble is hard to come by without playing some role in its creation or perpetuation. Sounds like if MW is indeed a good guy, he is at least guilty of poor judgment in regard to his circle of friends and/or how he allows his family members to behave toward him. I hope that he sees the light before wasting not only his Buccaneer career, but potentially any shot of playing with another team.

  76. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Cmurda nailed it.

  77. Kramden Says:

    Bonzai – agreed, Cmurda is right on

  78. Buc1987 Says:

    The_Buc_Realist Says:

    “Bucs need to sell jerseys with velcro names and velcro numbers.”

    Hilarious!

  79. Kansasbuc Says:

    I doubt we’ll go for Desean Jackson. To me this team seems like it will be one that throws the ball very little and for minimal yards (no too many deep balls) and run A LOT.

    I don’t think that Loive needs/wants a guy like Desean cuz he wouldn’t use him for his down the field threat (his offense is going to be controlling the clock mistake free= run a bunch and throw no more than 10 yards down the field).

  80. Buc1987 Says:

    Lovie Smith at the 2014 NFL Combine.

    “There’s a pattern here and it’s disturbing,” Smith said. “No one is bigger than this football team. He has to understand that.

    “Have I been disappointed in Mike Williams? Of course, there’s a standard. We’re just not going to put up with it, no matter who it is. You have to be good on the field and off the field. Simple as that. And if you’re not doing what you need to do one or the other, you have problems and that’s where Mike has to take care of a few things.”

  81. Mike10 Says:

    I agree w you Joe, I don’t get why everyone grabbed the pitchforks once all the domestic stuff came out. He didn’t kill someone under the influence, knock out his fiancé, or take a gun into a club. He’s one of the best #2 receivers out there. Do we plan to just continue releasing all of our depth and talent that we’ve developed?

    Please let the season begin so we have something of substance to discuss…

  82. lightningbuc Says:

    ODB,

    LOL! I’m surprised Dom drafted Williams, seeing as how Williams was NOT a team captain at Syracuse (big surprise there), and how Dom felt that was a key to greatness.

  83. lightningbuc Says:

    The_Buc_Realist Says:
    March 24th, 2014 at 3:29 pm
    Bucs need to sell jerseys with velcro names and velcro numbers.

    LMAO! I actually thought about this years ago, but the N$F$L$ would never license something so sensible.

  84. Maze Says:

    Only a matter of time until the Caveman Group is touring in a new city. The Rock Star is starting to run out of his former hit signings. Hey Mike you better call Lovie, he might need your new phone number. Hope everything is okay man.

  85. Cobraboy Says:

    I just read some knowledgeable info that MW’s cap hit is only $1.8, and they can’t find a trade partner.

    Good as gone.

  86. Chrisfresh23 Says:

    He won’t be missed that much he ain’t no Julio jones, Dez Bryant, d-jax, or any kind of official threat like the previous mentioned.. Therefore get us some more explosiveness at #2 wr

  87. Bucfan#37 Says:

    I think the Bucs should keep Mike Williams. If his injury recovery is 100 percent, then he will help the team win. He has been a good receiver in the past. Too good to cast off.

  88. BBFFC Says:

    MW is a pretty decent all around WR, maybe even above average. He’s NOT slow, or a “possession” WR. He needs to get his personal life in order, obviously. BUT cutting him, taking cap hit and or dead money! No way is that smart! Actually, cutting him before the draft would be asinine, tipping our hand to other teams that we need WR’s!! Think about it.

    The backlash , knee jerk fans saying to do so are just a cyber lynch mob. I’ll also add that racial prejudice is a part if all these discussions. Of course, nobody thinks they are, so why even deny it. BTW, I’m not saying “racist” either, just prejudiced,like jumping to conclusions ect. About his “posse”, “thugs”, rapping jokes and more.

  89. WalkdaPlank Says:

    Next thing you know Doug Martin is caught gambling a lot in Vegas or seen hitting up a few clubs and you people will want him thrown off the team too. I mean how dare Mike Williams go and get himself stabbed. He should know better. What a gangbanger.

  90. Kevin Says:

    Williams is an average receiver and will never be more than that. He was never worth the contract he got. He is easily replaceable and they should get rid of him, whenever that makes the most sense for the team. Either way he’s never going to be a game changer and this story did not GET people calling for Mike Williams to be cut, it just made them more vocal and outspoken about it. I don’t care if the guy is guilty or not this just proves he stupid enough to put himself in bad situations and is not good enough to play up to his contract or be worth the aggravation of keeping around as a starter. If he must stay put him at slot and let him get his bell rand a couple times to teach him a lesson….

  91. Harry Says:

    I have to admit, I am more shocked by how much MW makes than this stabbing story. I don’t remember Dom signing him for $10M per year, holy cow. About the same thing Deshawn Jackson makes…

  92. ChrisCo4Bucs Says:

    Sad, sad, sad……..MW is a talent, I hate to see it wasted

  93. Mark Says:

    SAMCRO

    How long have you been or not been a fan of the Buccaneers? The fish rots from the head down, and between Culverhouse and the Glazer BOYS, we have had MAYHEM. When daddy was running things and there was stability in the front office and coaching, FA’s wanted to come here. We were a model franchise, drafting the core adding FA’s to fill in the missing slots. Now we are drafting a rotten core and over paying for FA’s. Thank god for Lovie and bringing back respectability to this franchise!

  94. Mr Magoo Says:

    I may not see very well but Mike Williams has caught nearly 3000 yards in passing and 25 touchdowns in a 4 year career. And he missed 10 games during one of those years. Dont teams usually keep 4 or 5 WR’s? How many good ones do we have. Let’s see there is VJ and…??? So our count right now is at 2. Even if we drafted Watkins that would only be 3 if we dont release him. Tell me again fans why we dont need him? Oh yeah he threw some wild parties and he got stabbed or cut by his brother horsing around or in anger. He is only going to cost us $2.2M this year and we dont have to make a serious commitment until this time next year. Of course we are Tampa Bay fans so lets campaign for the stupidest choice now and release him. No way Lovie could possibly straighten him out. He is almost another Aaron Hernandez except for the alleged killing part. I guess I dont see things very well.

  95. Buc1987 Says:

    Mr Magoo…your right you don’t see things well at all.

    “Dont teams usually keep 4 or 5 WR’s? How many good ones do we have. Let’s see there is VJ and…??? So our count right now is at 2.”

    Most teams DON’T have 4-5 good WR’s. They usually have 1 #1 and 1 #2 that are good and usually the talent level drops after that.

  96. sho-nuff Says:

    ahhh clinging to your fallen “insider” s rock draft picks…sorry man but keeping stupid left the room when your boy got fired…..

    What “clinging?” If the Bucs could replace Williams now, Joe would be all for moving on. But they’re painfully thin at receiver and Williams really hasn’t been so worthy of all the pitchforks. –Joe

  97. sho-nuff Says:

    Kramden Says:
    March 24th, 2014 at 3:48 pm
    While it is good fodder for this site, we must agree that unless anyone really knows MW closely, this is all speculative what is or isn’t true about his character.

    His behavior is well documented and is why he fell in the draft…but hey why would reality have anything to do with what everybody else can see…..because at the end of the day the pop star saw potential in the punk(Williams), the sucker puncher(Blount), the sociopath(Talib) and the inaccurate flake(Freeman)….with tools like the poodle to bloviate excuses for the pop star why not…..

 
 

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