Teams Are Allowed To Adjust

September 20th, 2026

Explains short passing.

For the second week in a row, the Bucs were a short-pass offense, specifically to running backs.

In Week 1, the Bucs did this, very likely because, as Joe pointed out two weeks ago, the Bengals had the worst defense stopping screen passes in 2025.

And it seems like past tape determined how the Bucs would attack the Browns. The Bucs offense was borderline anemic today with short passes to running backs.

Bucky Irving and Kenny Gainwell combined for eight targets. They combined for six yards receiving.

With receivers like Chris Godwin and Emeka Egbuka, going to the short game with running backs as targets and getting virtually zero production is shameful.

But it appears from Bucs coach Todd Bowles, this was predetermined prior to the game.

“It was something they were giving us on tape,” Bowles said.

OK. Tape is one thing. To the best of Joe’s knowledge, offenses are allowed to adjust when the results aren’t there.

But it seems even Bowles was getting fed up with no production from dinking and dunking. Late in the game, the Bucs were throwing the ball downfield. Part of the reason was they didn’t have much of a choice. But Bowles said he wanted to be more aggressive, too.

“You are not going to get it just going putt, putt, putt, putt, putt, putt, so we took a shot at some passes,” Bowles said.

Joe sure wishes Bowles would have felt the same way in the first half.

148 Responses to “Teams Are Allowed To Adjust”

  1. Popcornmike67 Says:

    Joe, it’s just that time. Bucs need to move own and try someone new at HC.

  2. can-we-get-rid-of-licht-now-please Says:

    that’s it – the season is over – the pollyannas can pipe down

  3. BENchBREDESON Says:

    Our left guard and center are so bad, Baker has no time to set his feet and get comfortable into a rhythm passing game. It’s very apparent that most of the pressure is coming at him head on. Last week it was Allen, this week it was Graham. Until we fix that, we will have the same problems getting our offense going. I truly think that is the biggest thing holding us back, the play calling isn’t even that bad it’s just execution

  4. 813bucboi Says:

    This is BS…point blank period

    GO BUCS

  5. Buc’dInThaHead Says:

    I’ll be honest I really don’t want to hear much of what he has to say about the offense. He has his hands full just trying to shape up the defense for the umpteenth week in a row. This version of Bowles couldn’t run a Hot Dog stand during a Chicagoan Pride Festival.

  6. McBay Says:

    Genius like this, you just can’t find anywhere else.

  7. Popcornmike67 Says:

    It’s just damn frustrated when you have as much talent on offense as the Bucs does and only score 9 points in a full 2 quarters of pro football

  8. SlyPirate Says:

    ONLY POSITIVITY
    1. Bucs have pole position on #1 pick
    2. 13 losses is a Baker Dozen

  9. adam from ny Says:

    it’s a grizzardian offense…………still……………like wtf

  10. Rod Munch Says:

    October 12, 2025 is the last time Baker played a good game – vs the injury riddled 49ers.

    Almost a year ago at this point.

    Baker has not had a single good game since then. Prove me wrong, tell me what I’m forgetting.

  11. Bucs are Cooked Says:

    Waste of a season a season before. Garbage ownership.

  12. Bucs are Cooked Says:

    Tubby not winning anything. And Baker is Baked. We over-paid for effort where talent isn’t. Good luck. Bucs are F*cked.

  13. MelvinJunior Says:

    THIS was my exact thought today, even BEFORE the game and for during the ‘Lightning’ Delay (that I also called-out yesterday LoL). That, we have a HC that has not been capable of ADJUSTING. Then, sure enough I head HIM make those comments during HIS postgame press conference. Because, That’s What We s Saw On THE TAPE. Unbelievable. I mean, when HE doesn’t even get-it and is totally oblivious HIMSELF, I mean… SHEW. It really is THAT BAD. Though, the FO and Owners, literally SCREWED US Forrrrr YEARS!!!!

  14. GenocideD Says:

    Mike Evans made the right choice.

  15. SlyPirate Says:

    Bucs are Cooked Says:
    September 20th, 2026 at 9:14 pm
    Waste of a season a season before. Garbage ownership

    ^^^^

    Slow your roll on the owners. 2x SB in the NFCS.

  16. Bee Says:

    None of this makes any sense. The screen passes weren’t working so they went to a deep passing attack with a QB bad at throwing deep. Um OK, not a great plan. We’ve seen Baker for years be terrible at 10+ yard passes consistently. He can’t push the ball downfield so they want to get it to shifty guys in space. If they get room to run, its for a 2 yd gain.

    The offense can only be as good as its QB. The constant holding the ball, looking to run and overthrows are stalling the offense. Thanks for nothing Glazers.

  17. Unknownoutlire Says:

    Mayfield is an absolute fraud.

  18. Popcornmike67 Says:

    BENch BREDESON that true, OL has been a problem both weeks. Baker has had to scramble a lot

  19. Rod Munch Says:

    Joe sure wishes Bowles would have felt the same way in the first half.

    ———-

    Zac put Baker in a position to win the game on 4th down – and Baker missed what is an easy throw for an NFL QB.

    Zac schemed up plays where the Bucs had WR’s running open deep – and Baker kept missing the throws.

    I agreed that they have to not throw so much behind the line of scrimmage, but when Baker is asked to throw beyond the LOS, he’s extremely inaccurate. The single deep ball Baker hit was because he slipped prior to the throw.

  20. BucsFan81 Says:

    I know I can’t be the only one but I am disappointed and straight pissed. I been watching this team since 96 and I just don’t get how you didn’t see all this last year and make proper changes this past offseason. Instead you fire everyone except you keep Bowles. It’s starts with him and Licht yet they are still here. Got to cut off the head of the snake for real change to be made. I hope ownership starts to get it. Not sure what it’s going to take but this season is wasted and so is our time as Bucs fans with this garbage.

  21. Lakeland Says:

    Yeah this great offense with all of these great offensive weapons
    Scored 19 points against a defense that recently traded the DPOY
    😂😂🤣🤣

    It’s really comical
    All of this Imaginary talent

  22. Rod Munch Says:

    GenocideD Says:
    September 20th, 2026 at 9:16 pm
    Mike Evans made the right choice.

    —-

    Evans worked his rear off to get back early to be ready to go for the playoffs last year, only to see Baker play like complete trash.

    He literally said he wanted to go to a team “with a good quarterback.”

    He told everyone what he thought of Baker, and people pretend as if he was talking about Bowles.

  23. Get What You Pay For Says:

    I’m convinced Todd lacks the intelligence or is too intellectually lazy to adjust.

  24. Bucs are Cooked Says:

    F this team and F Todd Bowles.

    Unwatchable less than professional garbage.

    Homeless team and no fans. Browns fans outnumbered us.

    Dumpster.

  25. Bucs are Cooked Says:

    And baker sucks like a fine vacuum or lady of the night

  26. Ufcguy1979 Says:

    Barton sucks. The lime is weak up the middle. They need to move Barton typ guard and get a top center in the draft or free agency. This experimental crap on oline is pissing me off. Find a someone and stop cross training them its ruining them

  27. Sam Says:

    What thats saying about insanity and doing the same thing over and over. Really. Can we just get a real HC. I rooted for this guy for the last few years. I’m done. It’s time for change. Come on glazers. Fire him now. We can still turn it around. Not with Todd tho. This will be another lost season and waste of players. Fix this. Now. Before it’s too late

  28. Gotodan Says:

    It’s frustrating but consistent that Bowles coached teams play down to their competition. Waiting for him to finally coach up our team or at least get us to play to the talent their talent level. I have fading hope he can get the team to the playoffs. Zero belief he’s capable of coaching a team to a super bowl.

  29. Fred McNeil Says:

    It’s odd you said that, Joe. In the first half the BUCS were ahead.

  30. Day1-76 Says:

    It’s just so obvious. How can they not figure it out? Todd Bowles likes throwing his coaches under the bus when it’s his fault. Your defense sucks, Todd. What tape are you watching? Get a clue or get Gone!!!

  31. Frank Pillow Says:

    BucsFan81 nailed it. NOTHING has changed since last year’s collapse. This team played the excuse card/injuries- boo hoo- crybaby nonsense routine all offseason. They really believed themselves. No objectivity. No accountability. Just excuses and half baked justifications- like barely winning division titles in the absolute garbage heap that has been the NFC South. That’s all it took for our aloof owners to stand pat. Now they have to own it. They won’t. But this mess is entirely their own making.

  32. Rod Munch Says:

    Bucs had 137 yards rushing at 5.5 per carry.

    Set up the passing game perfectly.

  33. JackofAll Says:

    If there was any doubt as to why ME13 left, I believe it has been removed.

  34. DBS Says:

    Only because someone wants to bring up Evans. Game 2 against the fish. Evans goes out hurt already with a hip injury. Surprise Surprise.

  35. MelvinJunior Says:

    That’s all you have to do. He’s undersized, and cannot read defenses pre-snap, or make the ‘right’ read and decision quick enough. Just bring the pressure. Especially, up the gut right up the middle. Bowles is just going to have to get over it and forget about HIS “Defense” being exposed. They’re just going to have to go straight up TEMPO and keep-it movin… Dinkin & Dunkin, with QUICK SHORT Passes, up and down the field. Basketball on turf. And, just try to OUTSCORE EVERYBODY. It’s their only chance, IF they have ANY chance at all.

  36. McBay Says:

    Let’s look on the bright side. There are people who see that and can help the fans out with positive insights.

  37. Hopes on 2027 Says:

    So instead of backwards passes, you throw deep balls with a quarterback who has never been good at them?!

    10-15 yard passes, hello!

    stupidest coaching staff in the league

  38. Let em bake Says:

    Bowles comments were telling. He’s already interfering in the oc’ flow. Me thinks Zac had a plan, and Todd told him “ be aggressive”. Ok boss. Let’s throw 50 yarders, instead of intermediate targets , which baker excels at. Zac wants tight end usage . He’s not doing it. Maybe that changes…

  39. Warren Brooks Lynch Says:

    Trying to push the ball upfield puts our offense and ability to maintain possession of the ball puts us at greater risk, that is until teams start jumping those underneath routes too. Imagine that, lining up calling a screen and before the ball hits the mark it’s being taken to the house. Through 2 games, we’re setting ourselves up for catastrophe.

    Did you guys know, even with Evans last year we called screens on 17% of our drop backs in the first 6 games last year? It ranked 2nd in the NFL in terms of frequency. When Mike got hurt, the respect he drew as a deep threat vanished which allowed teams to pick their matchups and dictate to our offense who they were going to allow us to beat them with. Problem is, we kept spamming the same WR to very limited effect.

  40. Bucs are Cooked Says:

    Bowles is a garbage head coach. Baker not far behind. Both are not earning anything unless you count showing up as it. They are not on par with even the BROWNZ. aka Worst team in the league

    Say it out loud. We lost to both OHIO teams to start the year.

    I wouldn’t let Todd Bowles tell my kids Halloween was coming the night before because the holiday would quit on him. Fat POS.

  41. Lakeland Says:

    I know Shedeur Sanders is pissed at the Bucs
    He was supposed to get the start next week after Deshaun Watson stunk
    But Watson played so good, and the Browns won
    Sanders probably won’t see the field next week

  42. Rod Munch Says:

    Bucky Irving and Kenny Gainwell combined for eight targets. They combined for six yards receiving.

    ———

    Yeah, but most importantly they had 7 catches on those 8 attempts, so it helps boost Baker’s competition percentage!

    In fact Baker’s excellent passer rating today was 73.4 — which is better than the career average of Trent Dilfer, who won a SB!

    So all we need is an all-time great defense and the Bucs are in great shape!

  43. Rod Munch Says:

    Lakeland Says:
    September 20th, 2026 at 9:31 pm
    I know Shedeur Sanders is pissed at the Bucs

    ———

    I said in the offseason the Bucs should trade Baker to the Browns, they could totally rake them over the coals, get Garrett, a couple of 1st, and throw in Sanders – that I’d take my chances with Sanders, some vet option, perhaps spending a draft pick on a QB, I’d take that over being stuck with Baker on a terrible long term contract.

    Hopefully I still turn out to be wrong, but so far… yikes.

  44. adam from ny Says:

    hurst did literally blow the game winning touchdown tho, when all is said and done…it would have been a good catch,,,but it was a catchable, well thrown ball – yet the kid cold blew it…

    #RealTalk

    someone needs to say it…what are you waiting for…?…you want mike evans to say it…?

  45. Ha-Ha-Ha Says:

    0 and 5 on the way.

  46. Lakeland Says:

    The Bucs did let their best receiving and blocking RB walk
    Now they’re paying Gainwell 7 million a year to catch one yard oasses

  47. adam from ny Says:

    rachaad had 83 total yards today…i checked earlier

  48. Simeon4HOF Says:

    Blow it up. Need a new OC, DC, and HC

  49. JustOneGame Says:

    It could be week 8 before this team gets a win. And that very well could be the only win…

  50. Simeon4HOF Says:

    Missing White, Evans, and LVD more than we thought

  51. Inwoodjeremy Says:

    Let Danny Smith coach the team he is scoring all the points anyway. He does more for the team than Todd does. He just stands there for 4 hours.

  52. Simeon4HOF Says:

    “Its ok we just gotta coach it better”

  53. Simeon4HOF Says:

    Said ILB was out te strength gtfoh

  54. Rod Munch Says:

    Lakeland Says:
    September 20th, 2026 at 9:35 pm
    The Bucs did let their best receiving and blocking RB walk
    Now they’re paying Gainwell 7 million a year to catch one yard oasses

    —————-

    I wanted the Bucs to keep White, I’ve always thought he was way undervalued.

    With that said, White was the one who didn’t want to return. White has a very unhealthy obsession with Jayden Daniels. I mean it got pretty uncomfortable with how much White talked about his love of Jayden, and how he desired to play with him. Plus White took a cheap deal to do so. Makes me wonder…

    But it stinks since White was easily the best non-OL blocker on the team once Ko got hurt, and it’s been that way for years. Plus he’s literally the best pass catching RB in NFL history (that’s what the stats show, the competition percentage when throwing to him is incredible – best in NFL history).

  55. Simeon4HOF Says:

    ILB is not our team strength he is delusional as well as lackadaisical

  56. Rod Munch Says:

    adam from ny Says:
    September 20th, 2026 at 9:34 pm
    hurst did literally blow the game winning touchdown tho, when all is said and done…it would have been a good catch,,,but it was a catchable, well thrown ball – yet the kid cold blew it…
    ———–

    Breaking news, Hurst isn’t a future HOFer – at least not in his 2nd game in the NFL. That was a contested circus catch with a guy committing pass interference, a play that probably is caught 5-10% of the time.

    Regardless, Baker had a guy wide open to win the game on 4th down, an easy throw and catch, and missed it.

  57. Popcornmike67 Says:

    I was hoping Mayfield prove that he was a franchise QB this year but, looks like the jury is still out He’s just to inconsistent and to many over throw and mistakes when the game is on the line

  58. Todd Says:

    #tomlin2028

  59. Rod Munch Says:

    Popcornmike67 Says:
    September 20th, 2026 at 9:46 pm
    I was hoping Mayfield prove that he was a franchise QB this year but, looks like the jury is still out

    ————-

    I’m just curious… how long can jury’s be out?

    Does the jury finally come up with a verdict in the 10th year? Or 11th? I’m not sure the jury rules, but you’d think 8 years, going into 9 years, they’d have made a decision by now.

  60. CosmoKramer Says:

    The offense is averaging 19.5 points a game.

    A big reason why is we have a QB incapable of throwing deep passes accurately.

    How many times did he overthrow receivers today???

    $165 million worth or so it would seem.

  61. McBay Says:

    Mayfield through a nice interception today. He is well paid to do these things.

  62. Posey99 Says:

    All the mayfield butt sniffers don’t abandon ship yet!

  63. SBucs Says:

    The talent evaluation on this team is questionable. It’s either that or the coaching stinks. Probably both. The game plans are lazy, the in game adjustments non existent. I think Todd is fat, happy and waiting to be fired so he can eat out the rest of his life on glazers money. The situation is not changing. This team is 2-9 in the last eleven, have never beaten an AFC team under Todd. Expecting miracles is insane.

  64. DavidBigBucsFan99 Says:

    And almost no Baker bois up here to defend their crush

  65. Popcornmike67 Says:

    Rod Munch, you’re right LOL

  66. BucsFan Says:

    Hey Rod did you forget the Mike Evans video of him throwing his helmet screaming 3 and 28????

    Mike Evans left because Bowles stayed

    You can defend this IDIOT OF A HC All you want to

    FACT he is less that mediocre BY STATS

    AND IN THW NFL He would have been fired by any other team

  67. McBucky Says:

    They looked exactly like a team that’s led by Todd Bowles today. And they will look exactly the same way next week, and next month, and next year, and until they get rid of him.

  68. BucsFan Says:

    Hey Rod do you hold the HC to the same standard as the QB 8th 9th year or now 11th year with one playoff win

    Oh yea HE WON THW NFC SOUTH WOWWWWW

    (With a losing record)

    And Missed the playoffs total last year

    Oh but it the QBs fault of
    I notice nothing said about Baker running for his life after 1 sec

  69. adam from ny Says:

    wrong rod….watch the replay….ball hit him clearly in the hands…

    contested …yes…not heavily contested tho…

    circus catch…?…not in the least…

    i said it would be a good catch…i can upgrade it to maybe a very good catch……..not even a great catch…

    granted the rain or drizzle might have been present…but that was a very catchable ball…

    check the replay…

    and yeah baker completely blew the pass to egbuka…

    3 heels on that drive:
    barton
    hurst
    baker

    and a 4th heel of course…you rod you…you are always the heel 🙂

  70. Buc1987 Says:

    Keep losing for all I care at this point.

    I take back my all summer long prediction of 5-12.

    I think they’ll go 3-14.

    Bowles you truly suck even worse than i ever thought.

    Saw Bain dropping into coverage….ugh WTF?

    Don’t get me started about Faker Mayfield.

  71. Mike Says:

    What does Todd and baker have in common ?
    They both suck at their positions. They are not NFL elites they are are NFL pretenders
    For all you fans who blamed everyone but baker I remember posting on this site I would tell you I told you so. You got what you wanted THE GREAT ELITE QB OF ALL TIME BAKER MAYFIELD
    HA HA HA

  72. Lakeland Says:

    Lol Buc1987

    I always thought you were a VIP Buc fan
    😂😂🤣🤣

  73. gotbbucs Says:

    Bowles hindsight is always 20/20…too bad he’s legally blind when it comes to foresight.

  74. Buc1987 Says:

    Where’s StPeteMatt with his Super Bowl aspirations?

  75. adam from ny Says:

    i had us going 9-8 on the year…

    with this abysmal 0-2 start, i might be downgrading us to 7-10…

    but even that seems like an overestimate…

    we rally look like a 4-13 type team right now…

    it’s fuggin crazy man…

    and most of our so called star players look washed up too

  76. Rod Munch Says:

    adam from ny Says:
    September 20th, 2026 at 10:13 pm
    wrong rod….watch the replay….ball hit him clearly in the hands…

    contested …yes…not heavily contested tho…

    ————

    I said Baker threw a good ball there, it was in the right spot, and the defender was right on top of the receiver, interfering with Hurst before the ball got there, and it was heavily contested. That is not a TD in the vast majority of circumstances, but it is DPI in most cases. But to assume Hurst is supposed to play at a HOF level and make that catch because Evans does is an absurd standard for a 3rd round pick in his 2nd game and doesn’t let Baker off the hook for missing a wide open WR on 4th down, on a simple NFL throw and catch.

  77. adam from ny Says:

    new orleans looks like they are ready and carolina as well…both seem ready…

    we look ready to hop on the short bus to tijuana

  78. adam from ny Says:

    stop rod

  79. ModHairKen Says:

    Baker: Ridiculously inaccurate on multiple deep passes. Missed the last one, too. That is why they lost.

    But try OL had a big part in this loss as did Ted Hurst.

    The Defense was pathetic, too.

    Not been 0-2 since 2014. Let that sink in.

  80. Buc1987 Says:

    I don’t think Jason Licht survives this season either …..let both of them go.

    The Glazers can’t like pissing money away.

  81. Billybob1 Says:

    The glazer are thr joke of the nfl with their contracts and also the English premier league with the man u hold out..

  82. Rod Munch Says:

    BucsFan Says:
    September 20th, 2026 at 10:12 pm
    Hey Rod do you hold the HC to the same standard as the QB 8th 9th year or now 11th year with one playoff win

    ————-

    I called for Bowles to be fired a bunch of times, in particular after 2024. I too wanted Coen to say, said the Bucs should break the stupid Rooney rule, then sue the NFL over that policy, and just flat out hire Coen without going through the dumb hiring process nonsense which would have let Coen interview with other teams before the Bucs could have locked him up.

    People seem to think because I said Bowles shouldn’t have been fired this offseason – that it was some sort of endorsement – it wasn’t.

    What I said was don’t fire Bowles this last offseason, because you were not going to get any good coaching candidates with Baker coming off an awful season. I said wait until AFTER this season to fire Bowles since you’d either have Baker coming off a good year, and you could get a top candidate – OR if Baker is terrible, you could just do a rebuild, and get a coach coming in with a blank slate.

    But the Glazers meddled at the last second, demanded a deal get done with Baker, and screwed up all those plans. No good coach is going to want to be here if Baker doesn’t dramatically improve. At the same time, if Baker is playing dramatically better, then the Bucs – still in the NFC South – are probably winning, and Bowles probably isn’t getting fired.

    Finally, there is the fact that Baker has been horrific since the Rams game – the only exception in that time that you could make is probably game 17 last season vs the Panthers where he was fine. If Baker was just a middling middle of the road QB over these last 10 games, the Bucs are probably 8-2 over their last 10, and would have made the playoffs, and who knows what happens. But Baker has been mostly trash over that span, and deserves to bashed by all. Anyone defending Baker’s play over that span has no credibility.

  83. Simeon4HOF Says:

    The state of the Bucs is unbelievable and squarely on the Glazers for keeping Bowles

  84. Simeon4HOF Says:

    That was absolute total bull@@@@ today. Wtf

  85. DRob Says:

    More likely lack of confidence in oline/ strength of brown’s online. Did not have confidence in health of qb if we stood back there and passed deep.

  86. Lakeland Says:

    Buc1987

    I been telling you this for a long time
    Jason Licht is not a good GM

  87. adam from ny Says:

    i wonder what lavonte is thinking as he sits and watches the games…

    is he all twitchy & itchy…….

    or just shaking his head at what he’s seeing

  88. adam from ny Says:

    rod is on a heater lol 🙂

  89. ModHairKen Says:

    Winfield has done nothing. Anzalone is about as effective as a wet paper towel. Wirfs looks like a cripple. Baker looks like an ant and throws like someone’s aunt.

    The playcalling was lousy. Idiot Bowles thinks the “tape” supported the offensive game plan. What tape? It’s a brand new team in Cleveland.

    And how about making an adjustment when your stupid halfassed game plan is failing?

    Is there a single player who has any pride and leadership qualities? Because I ain’t seeing it.

  90. adam from ny Says:

    @ModHairKen:

    yes our players are clearly stinking or washed up…its sad

  91. Lakeland Says:

    Kameron Johnson returned the kickoff 48 yards
    And gave the YUCS excellent field position at their 49
    Then the Bucs went on a 10 play 31 yards drive

    31 yards in 10 plays
    This is downright embarrassing
    Especially for a team with so much money invested in this offense

  92. Mhystc Says:

    Fire the entire staff. Clean house. Jason Licht can go also.

    Bowles’ defense wasn’t too bad today, but his scheme is still terrible. They made Watson look like a good QB. They do it with every bad QB. Watson will go back to being terrible next week.

    Zac Robinson—the Falcons wanted him gone for a reason, and you’re seeing the reason now.

    Clean house. Start fresh.

    New GM.
    New HC.
    New OC.
    New DC.

  93. Obvious Says:

    I’ll just keep posting:

    IT IS OVER

  94. Rod Munch Says:

    BTW, two more missed tackles for Analzone today – and he gave up the TD. The moron on TV talking about Winfield on that play is an idiot. That moron Analzone, in the process of missing the tackle on Boston, managed to fly around and take out Winfield on the play as well.

    Analzone is to the defense, what Baker has been to the offense.

  95. Josh Says:

    OH NO!! WE SUCK AGAIN!! – Rob Schneider (Water Boy)

  96. ModHairKen Says:

    Why can’t these players tackle? Do they not practice?

    Bowles is a moron. His excuses are nonsense. He cannot coach.

    Glazers have to be kicking themselves. They will not fire a HC mid season.

    So this is shaping up to be an epic season. Weekly JBF posts that make us sound like morons. Repeating the same complaints, as if we will feel better or that it will change anything.

    This is not fun.

  97. Mhystc Says:

    Yeah. Alex Anzalone is Hassan Reddick 2.0, waste of a signing.

  98. JoeytheA Says:

    I agree with BucsFan81: disappointed & pissed after my 35 years of Bucs watching. I’ve never been a Bowles or Baker basher. I think they’re both good people, husbands and fathers. They likely would be fun to have a beer with.

    HOWEVER, here is the absolute damning evidence that this team needs serious changes, from the top down.

    1. Bucs are 2-9 since their 6-2 start — which was mainly due to 4 unlikely last minute wins. That’s on Bowles, Baker, the D, and 2025 special teams.
    2. This might be the most damning and illustrative thing I’ve heard since the 2020 season, right up there with ME13’s scathing comments upon leaving. When the teams were returning to the field after the lightning delay, the CBS sideline reporter told us (paraphrasing) that the Browns were laughing & loose coming out, while the Bucs were grim & quiet!!! WTF. If that doesn’t tell you, me & the Glazers what the primary problem is then I give up. Go Bucs.

  99. ModHairKen Says:

    This made me laugh: “Analzone is to the defense, what Baker has been to the offense.”

    Yeah, spot on. One misses tackles, the other misses receivers.

  100. adam from ny Says:

    his name is:

    ANZA – LONE – LY

    he’s the loneliest man in the bucs locker room….yet a very rich man he is

  101. adam from ny Says:

    boss:

    can you tackle this task at work today young man ?

    anzalone:

    no sir i can not

  102. adam from ny Says:

    meanwhile i’m watching the chiefs game and i keep looking for jack pyburn

  103. 3-28 curse continues Says:

    The Glazers are busy making phone calls. New coaching staff and GM are coming in 2027.

  104. Rod Munch Says:

    ModHairKen Says:
    September 20th, 2026 at 10:47 pm
    Why can’t these players tackle? Do they not practice?

    ————-

    Not much – the NFLPA doesn’t allow it.

    But today, outside of Analzone missing two, I only remember one other, with Morrison missing a tackle. I could be forgetting some however.

  105. Jarrett Says:

    Joe this season is over

    This team can’t compete for a Super Bowl

    It’s over

    Let’s tank and get Arch Manning

    Baker ain’t it

  106. RogBucIII Says:

    It is the opinion of some die hard fans that Mayfield is injured again.They point to the fact that he cannot throw the ball more than 7-12 yards down the field. Overthrown and underthrown passes sail wildly over the field as there is no accuracy of his throws. This was evidenced by the TD pass thrown to Ebuka which was behind him. The last pass on 4th down to end the game sailed wildly away from the receiver. If he is hurt, most people hope that he will heal soon..

    But if he is not injured, the fault has to be that the team is not doing the necessary work to prepare each week to win ball games in the NFL. The team needs to do heavy self-scouting work this week to find out who is performing and who is not..

    Unlike some of the comments above, it is not yet time to push the panic button yet. The season can be salvaged before they decide to enter the Arch Manning sweepstakes……

  107. Rod Munch Says:

    3-28 curse continues Says:
    September 20th, 2026 at 10:57 pm
    The Glazers are busy making phone calls. New coaching staff and GM are coming in 2027.

    ——-

    What is the sales pitch?

    Hey, do you want to take over a team with a QB who is so horrible in the last two years he got his entire offensive staff fired one year, followed by getting the entire staff fired the next year?

    What coach with options wants to come to Tampa and take over a team where they have a QB on a contract that makes it impossible to move on from him – and yet he keeps playing so poorly he gets everyone fired?

  108. Jarrett Says:

    Jason light

    Count your days man

    We’d be better with Shedeur Sanders at Qb over Baker

    What a joke to pay Baker 50 million plus

    He ain’t Mahommes , he ain’t Josh Allen

  109. MelvinJunior Says:

    @ Rod Says: “I said in the offseason the Bucs should trade Baker to the Browns, they could totally rake them over the coals, get Garrett, a couple of 1st, and throw in Sanders – that I’d take my chances with Sanders, some vet option, perhaps spending a draft pick on a QB, I’d take that over being stuck with Baker on a terrible long term contract.”

    You’re DELUSIONAL, if you think the BROWNS would have ever taken THAT. Giving UP ‘TWO’ 1sts AND Garrett FOR BAKER!? In the 2027 and 2028 DRAFTS (at the very top of it, too). When, they are TANKING!? When, THEY just GOT a 1st, 2nd, & 3rd from the Rams… Plus, a young STUD EDGE-Rusher in Jared Verse!? I agree with quite a bit of the things you say, but you are HORRIBLE on these proposed trade packages. You have ZERO “feel” for it whatsoever, LoL. There is absolutely NO WAY, that was ever happening. EVEN, if they WEREN’T tanking. Number 1, they wouldn’t take Baker anyways, and Number 2, definitely NOT with his current new contract.

    They should’ve done what “I” said… Move EVERY ‘available’ asset at the trade-deadline, that you possibly can. Stockpile picks, and clear up as much Salary Cap space as humanly possible, and as quickly as possible. Sign a veteran “bridge” on the CHEAP… Doesn’t even matter WHO TF it is just as long as he is CHEAP. Cause, with a totally depleted roster, you are tanking in 2027 regardless. Then, REBUILD. THE. ROSTER. FIRST. Starting with “Jeremiah FREAKING Smith.” Start churning-out TALENT and stockpiling PICKS, like Coen in JAX. Thennnn, in the 2028 Draft you can start thinking about POUNCING on your QB (the 2028-class is going to be LOADED, too), after everyone else had already taken THEIRS in this 2027-Class… You can have the pick of the litter, and after also having a ‘FULL-YEAR’ to REBUILD. THE. ROSTER. FIRST. And, before the ‘countdown clock’ has to begin on his ‘rookie-level’ contract (could even wait until 2029, it doesn’t really matter anyway… you’re NOT ‘contending’ that quick, and maybe, your new-age modern day young STUD HC/Play-Caller, caught ‘lightning-in-a-bottle’ with his “bridge”). And, you don’t have to just throw him straight to the wolves with that mostly depleted roster either, and then RUIN HIM. You should have PLENTY of Draft-Capital left by then as well, if you did it right! Then, you have the 2028 Free-Agency Period, to make a couple of calculated moves, AND a few others, via TRADE… For either/or, or both, more TALENT (&/or) future PICKS. And, then the 2029 Free Agency Period, is where you REALLY LOAD TF UP after making strides in 2028. The ‘franchise’ would be SET UP for LONGTERM, for sustained success. And, to make a STRONG RUN with 4-5 full-years, of having your ‘franchise’ QB still, on HIS ‘rookie-level’ DEAL.

    But, every single bit of all of that is NOW, completely DONE. OVER. It’s not even a possibility. We are now looking at at LEAST, a 5-YEAR long drawn-out ordeal, of just PURE MISERY. And, that’s exactly WHY “I” immediately said, SOOOO ‘full-throatedly’ right after the new Baker-Extension, that I AM DONE. That, it’s OVER. That, there is really, no reason to even worry about it or cate anymore. Because, another “Lost Decade” is now ‘officially’ in-play, and is a REAL legit, not ‘possibility’ but PROBABILITY. And, that our odds of that happening, have now DRASTICALLY IMPROVED. Again, I would’ve MUCH RATHER had “Drew Fricken Lock” at 2-years, and his current $2.5-MIL PER YEAR… Versus, whatever STUPID SPIT they just HANDED-OUT to “Baker Mayfield.” It’s called “OPPORTUNITY COST.” Straight-up Morons. Their “DAD” WON the first Super Bowl, and “Tom Brady” WON the last. These people don’t have even, THE FIRST CLUE, as to what the hell they’re doing.

  110. can-we-get-rid-of-licht-now-please Says:

    Buc1987 Says:
    September 20th, 2026 at 10:18 pm
    Where’s StPeteMatt with his Super Bowl aspirations?

    I can tell you where, Buc1987 – his mom got mad at him for watching the Bucs game on TV rather than doing his remedial math homework – she really wants him promoted out of 11th grade before his 20th birthday – and she’s worried about his obsessions with leprechauns and the Tooth Fairy – he just can’t seem to separate fantasy from reality sometimes – poor deluded boy

  111. Go Bucs! Says:

    We have some nice pieces for the next coach…

  112. Rod Munch Says:

    RogBucIII Says:
    Unlike some of the comments above, it is not yet time to push the panic button yet. The season can be salvaged before they decide to enter the Arch Manning sweepstakes……

    ———–

    Remember how the Mannings told the Chargers that Eli would not play for them, that he’d sit out before he played for them.

    If this actually happened, do you think they’d stand by and let Arch come to a team with a boat anchor around its neck with Baker’s deal being completely immoveable?

    I don’t think the Bucs will be that bad – to be sure. But if they were, not only would it be almost impossible to find a good coach to take the job, I think top college QBs would boycott the team as well since they wouldn’t want to be in a situation where they had to be around Baker – in particular with his history of pouting when he’s got legit competition at QB.

  113. Oxycondomns Says:

    the whole league knows to draw up te plays vs the bucs. todays td reminded me of pitts last year prancing for tds

  114. Rod Munch Says:

    Hey guys, did you just see on social media that the prez was posting about Baker…

    Yep, he said after today’s game, Baker was the perfect guy to send to the middle east to OVER THROW Iran.

    Get it, OVER THROW!

    Yeah, I used this a couple of times now, but I need to get it out of my system, I mean how often can I reuse this same bit when it comes to Baker.

    Oh right, weekly. My bad.

  115. MelvinJunior Says:

    @ Popcornmike67 Says: “It’s just damn frustrated when you have as much talent on offense as the Bucs does”

    It’s all been a bunch of “Smoke & Mirrors,” Dude. From residing in the NFC South Division. Y’all just kept drinking the kool-aid, Man. I’ve been trying to talk some SENSE into you all forever, now… THIS is a “Bottom-5” ROSTER in the NFC. And, after today, that might even be VERY generous. Because, right now, they are looking a lot more like, a “BOTTOM-5” Roster, in the ENTIRE LEAGUE. You have been LIED TO by all of these local people. They ALL “buy-in” literally, EVERY single year, no matter WHAT. 💯

  116. #1bucsfan Says:

    JOE do you really think the results would be different if we were trying deep passes in the 1st half ? I don’t. Baker couldn’t hit the side of a barn today. He made some good scrambles today but man he was way off. This is why I wanted the glazers to make an offer after the season to baker not before. If he played bad we are stuck with him and if he played good we would have to pay him more.

  117. SenkoFox Says:

    No matter how much bowles was paid for his extension, as many Bucs Fans said from last year’s abomination, cut and run and absorb the loss. This dude is Turrible.

  118. Simeon4HOF Says:

    Bring Lavonte back

  119. Joe Says:

    JOE do you really think the results would be different if we were trying deep passes in the 1st half ?

    More intermediate than deep. But yes. Chris Godwin is a talent. Emeka Egbuka is a talent. Like Nick Saban always preaches, the smartest thing a coach can do is get the ball into the hands of your playmakers and let them make plays.

  120. Nick coco Says:

    Todd Bowles is a moron and baker mayfield SUCKS!

  121. Nick coco Says:

    And Ira is a MORON!

  122. Simeon4HOF Says:

    Anzologne needs to be cut by dawn

  123. MelvinJunior Says:

    @ Lakeland Says: “The Bucs did let their best receiving and blocking RB walk
    Now they’re paying Gainwell 7 million a year to catch one yard oasses”

    Yeah, REAL DUMB. They just continue throwing GOOD $$$$ after BADDDD $$$$. Been trying to tell you people… They don’t know what the hell they’re doing. I mean, you can just recite one after another. Especially, these last two years, post COEN. The list is ever growing. And, it ends with BAKER. Unfortunately, that one, is REALLY gonna hurt and makes things extremely difficult to recover. Definitely, NOT anytime soon. COEN is turning out to be OUR “Babe Ruth” to the Yankees Trade, unfortunately. “Franchise Altering” – Again, like “I” said, at the time.

  124. Oxycondomns Says:

    special teams coach should be promoted to head coach

  125. Mike Johnson Says:

    I think we finish 7-9. And I also think the Glazers should clean house next yr and start over. Thats right, Send Licht down the plank too.

  126. MelvinJunior Says:

    @ Simeon4HOF Says: “Blow it up. Need a new OC, DC, and HC”

    Just STOP. That ship has already SAILED. What are you going to do… KEEP saying this EVERYDAY NOW, for the next 4+MONTHS!? Stop. It’s OVER. Admit it and accept it. We are right here, right now. And, absolutely NOTHING is changing. It’s OVER.

  127. MelvinJunior Says:

    @ Rod Munch Says: “Regardless, Baker had a guy wide open to win the game on 4th down, an easy throw and catch, and missed it.”

    He didn’t just “miss-it.” HE MISSED-IT BAD. REALLLLL BAD. Miserably, BAD.

  128. Jabuc Says:

    Toilet Bowles

  129. MelvinJunior Says:

    @ Popcornmike67 Says: “I was hoping Mayfield prove that he was a franchise QB this year but, looks like the jury is still out He’s just to inconsistent and to many over throw and mistakes when the game is on the line”

    The “jury” was NEVER “out.” We’ve all seen him for 8 full seasons now, EIGHT. He was NEVER worth that kind of money, and longterm. PERIOD. NO ONE ELSE. Not any other TEAM would have done that. NOT that much money, and for that many years. NO WAY. NO HOW. That’s just the REALITY.

  130. MadMax Says:

    Calling Mike Tomlin…..answer please, its time!

  131. MelvinJunior Says:

    @ BucFan Says: “I notice nothing said about Baker running for his life after 1 sec”

    STFU. You were saying 3-4 seconds, UNTIL you found-out that was actually GOOD. LOL. So, GTFO. You are nothing but a FAKE “Fan.” A total FRAUD, who doesn’t know WTF you’re talking about. Baker was NEVER worth that type of Money. EVER. And, that’s the Bottomline. We can walk-away from a COACH. ANY COACH. At ANYTIME. And, it has ZERO baring on the team’s Salary Cap/Dead Cap, and has absolutely NOTHING to do with what we can or can’t do ‘financially’ as a FRANCHISE moving forward. He affects NOTHING that matters, concerning OUR FUTURE. But, you better bet your ass that BAKER SURE AF DOES. And, that’s exactly WHY those of us who are SMART and NOT blinded by our extremely WEIRD (adult) everlasting, undying LOVE for a ‘professional’ fricking ATHLETE. A very mediocre one, AT THAT. Pathetic. Embarrassing.

  132. Rod Munch Says:

    At least the SNF game was entertaining.

    Nice to see what you’re supposed to get when you pay for a franchise QB.

  133. MelvinJunior Says:

    @ MadMax Says: “Calling Mike Tomlin…..answer please,”

    Just STOP. Seriously, I mean… WHY say this, period. Especially, EVERY FREAKING DAY, or every time they get beat. It’s STUPID. And, for the one-MILLIONTH TIME… A HORRIBLE HIRE. That is unless, you would want or like, a little better version of the same thing as Bowles 2.0. I mean, HE’s DONE. Just another retread that the new-age modern-day game has passed on by. And, he had NO control over HIS locker rooms at the end… LOOSE AF. Can’t develop a QB. Defensive HC. Can’t CALL PLAYS. Clueless, about OFFENSE. Doesn’t even know WHAT a modern day NFL “Offense” even LOOKS LIKE. 80% of the Pittsburgh Fanbase had wanted “HIM” OUT for years!!!! Actually, HE would probably be the BEST that “WE” cold get right now… And, of course, it’s be another VERY ‘typical’ WEAK move for THIS FO and Ownership Group. ‘Thinking’ they’re being “SAFE” Lmao.

  134. firethecannons Says:

    Concerned that once Bowles gets fired then it will be almost impossible to find a head coach with good experience that would be willing to work with Baker

  135. Cantankeris Says:

    Bottom line.

    Toad could never match wits in a game like this Chefs-Dolts game at the end of the evening. Shane Steichen is unlikely to make it either but at least he was there, once. Bloweso can’t even get us in this game. Just not good enough.

    So we should ask, “Why is he our guy?”

  136. MelvinJunior Says:

    @ Buc1987 Says: “Where’s StPeteMatt with his Super Bowl aspirations?”

    He seriously believed THIS was a LOADED Roster… One of THE best in the entire LEAGUE. He must be SICK. ‘Reality’ is starting to hit him in the face. AND, he truly believed that Todd Bowles was a great Head Coach, and BAKER was an ‘ELITE’ Quarterback, that HE SAID, that we should pay OVER $60-MILLION A YEAR for 5-YEARS… And, that is would ‘look-like’ a STEAL, in just another year or two. “DO IT NOW… HE’S WORTH IT.”

  137. firethecannons Says:

    Cantankeris says: So we should ask, “Why is he our guy?”
    He is our guy because of affirmative action.

  138. MelvinJunior Says:

    @ Billybob1 Says: “The glazer are thr joke of the nfl with their contracts and also the English premier league with the man u hold out..”

    Yeah, this definitely won’t be THEIR first rodeo. Been there and already done THAT. So, none of this will anything to any of THEM. They wont be sweating it, or losing any sleep. They’re used to it. It’ll be a looong slow, ROUGH trip back up again, and out of this. The Baker Extension (like “I” said), DESTROYED US.

  139. Pewter Power Says:

    Uh what Mr. I’m gonna kick a field goal on 4th and short in our own territory said he wanted to be more aggressive? Stop with the jokes Joe

  140. MelvinJunior Says:

    @ Rod Munch – “I think top college QBs would boycott the team as well since they wouldn’t want to be in a situation where they had to be around Baker – in particular with his history of pouting when he’s got legit competition at QB.”

    Yeah, everyone needs to just get over it and move on. Forget about all of this DRAFTING A QB nonsense, and all this HC/GM NONSENSE, over and over again. It mean, IT’s OVER. There are STILL 16-WEEKS LEFT. And, yeah… Arch Manning will RETURN to TEXAS, before ever COMING HERE. So, just STOP. There’s a loooong ways to go… TRY 3-YEARS, NOW. And, you can thank the FO, the Glazers, and ALL the Clowns on here, for it ALL. “PAY HIM NOW.” He’s EARNED-IT.” “WHATEVER IT TAKES.” For 3-10 in his last 13-STARTS. And, “THEY” are emotional. When, HE was NEVER worth anywhere NEAR THAT. And, these WEAK PATHETIC Owners and GM, literally decided to HAND “HIM” THAT, with only a couple of more DAYS LEFT, until the start of the SEASON. Well, they’re going to GET ‘everything’ that THEY DESERVE. 💯 STUPID CLUELESS, CLOWNS.

  141. BoriMex 813 Says:

    Sad..
    Very Sad..
    Day in Tampa Bay. Missed tackles everywhere, zero killer instinct, awful situational football, and a coaching staff that looked completely incapable of adjusting once Cleveland punched back. You don’t blow a second-half lead at home while controlling the run unless the execution and coaching both fail miserably.

    And the worst part? CLEVELAND delivered the daggers. 🗡️🗡️🗡️ We didn’t just lose, we handed them the knife and showed them exactly where to stick it. This one hurts. I hope the Minnesota game is blacked out for the sanity of our mental and emotional wellbeing.

  142. MelvinJunior Says:

    I’m just wondering if he’s actually taken his ‘physical’ yet, AND ‘signed’ that contract. I mean, IF they didn’t require HIM to have to pass a physical, in the very least (cause I have not heard ANYTHING about it)… Then, that just makes it even that much more MIND-BOGGLING to me. The whole entire thing over “THIS GUY” (really, “this guy”), is just completely UNFORGIVABLE. It was an UNFORCED ERROR, that was just totally UNNECESSARY, in every way imaginable. I mean, NOTHING about it made ANY sense. 3-10 now, in HIS last 13-STARTS. So, there is no reason to constantly say EVERY single day now, that we need a new COACH, a new GM, a new QB, DRAFT a QB, & etc. Cause, IT’S OVER. DONE. This FO did what they inexplicably DID, and SCREWED US. It is what it is. OVER. We are now STUCK. Either like it, or move on. There is NOT a damn thing, that we can do about it NOW. Lickt could have told the Glazers, “HAIL NO.” But, if it was LICKT’s IDEA, that HE pushed for… Then, yeah. HE IS DONE.

  143. Rod Munch Says:

    MelvinJunior Says:
    Yeah, everyone needs to just get over it and move on. Forget about all of this DRAFTING A QB nonsense, and all this HC/GM NONSENSE, over and over again. It mean, IT’s OVER. There are STILL 16-WEEKS LEFT.

    ———–

    Well I did say I do NOT think that is going to happen.

    I’m not giving up the season and talking draft in week 2.

    People need to chill out.

    At the same time, IF that was to happen, it means Baker’s play continued at an incredibly poor level, and then the Bucs would be in a terrible situation of being tied to an awful QB for a long time with no way to get out of it – and there is no way to get out of the deal, they can’t afford to trade or cut Baker, IF this was the outcome.

    But again, it’s week 2, chill out everyone.

    And by that, I mean call out Baker for being a bum – and hope that Baker getting ‘disrespected’ actually triggers him to play well and not ruin the season.

  144. Rod Munch Says:

    BoriMex 813 — yet our franchise QB had the ball in his hands, a wide open WR in the endzone, and he missed the easy throw to win the game.

    That’s the entire game – not the emo nonsense you’re crying about.

    Baker singlehandedly lost the game.

    Baker has singlehandedly lost 6 of the last 7 games.

  145. MelvinJunior Says:

    @ Cantankeris – I don’t believe that even “Shane Steichen” could make Baker look ‘serviceable’ right now… And, he’s possibly a TOP-5 ‘Play-Caller’ in the LEAGUE, right now. I think at 31-YEARS OLD, Baker might be WASHED now!!!! And, THIS Bucs FO really did this to us. It’s unbelievable. You really can’t make it up. It is a “Bucs Life” though, as they say.

  146. MelvinJunior Says:

    @ Rod – Na, I was agreeing about Arch not coming HERE. I was just telling everyone else to move on. I’m already sick & tired of hearing the same old people (with nothing to say), continue saying the same old worn-out thing all the time… “NEW COACH.” “DRAFT A QB.” “CALL TOMLIN.” Geeeez. It’s like, do YOU NOT have anything else to say, AT ALL!? It’s NOT HAPPENING. They already MADE “their decision,” when THEY inexplicably decided to EXTEND BAKER FOR 3-YEARS, at ‘tip-top-of-the-market’ MONEY. It’s still mind-blowing to even say, just for KNOWING the consequences of SUCH a ‘STUPID’ MOVE.

  147. Rod Munch Says:

    MelvinJunior Says:
    September 21st, 2026 at 1:41 am
    @ Rod – Na, I was agreeing about Arch not coming HERE.

    ————

    I know — I’m just saying I’m not ready to start talking draft already. I just thought about the Eli situation however when I read that, and I can’t see a top college QB coming here, not if they can just return to college. That’s a legit issue.

    But I get your point.

    But it’s way to early to start talking about the season being over.

  148. Billybob1 Says:

    This is awful

 

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