Herm Edwards Says Bucs Bound For Super Bowl
May 28th, 2014
No pressure, Lovie. .
Your old comrade is calling your team Super Bowl-bound on national television.
That’s right. Former Bucs secondary coach and Jets and Chiefs head coach Herm Edwards believes the Bucs are headed to Arizona for a Super Bowl clash with the Steelers in February. That was the word from Edwards during yesterday’s episode of NFL on ESPN. John Mamola of 620wdae.com documented the prediction.
Apparently, Edwards is won over by Tampa Bay’s defensive talent and how Lovie will maximize it.
Joe loves the optimism; it surely feels good this morning. Joe’s got extra bounce in his step as he heads for a plate of pancakes. But Joe can’t buy in just yet, not after identifying the first-team offensive line yesterday at practice: Anthony Collins, Patrick Omameh, Evan Dietrich-Smith, Oneil Cousins and Demar Dotson.
And, sorry, Joe has to mention the quarterback position. Having the fourth best QB in the division — and no QB with elite potential — is a severe handicap to greatness.
May 28th, 2014 at 8:06 am
Herm has got the destination right, but the timing is a year (or two) off.
May 28th, 2014 at 8:07 am
I was ok, until we got to Cousins. While he is better suited to zone blocking-he’s never displayed enough talent to start.
Where’s Jamon Merideth?
May 28th, 2014 at 8:13 am
” and no QB with elite potential”
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JOE KNOWS QBs!
May 28th, 2014 at 8:22 am
So tired of “4th best quarterback in the division” comments! Look at the standings over time. Teams don’t finish in standings 1, 2, 3, 4 based on their qb. Yes it mattters somewhat, but rank the teams in the divisions based on their coaches. Looks to me like you get similar results. Or rank divisions by their defenses or offenses. It’s all subjective.
May 28th, 2014 at 8:27 am
Herm’s self confident and enthusiastic prediction reminds me of an ant who ingested a grain of viagra floating down the Hillsborough River on his back on a leaf in an excited state yelling “open the draw bridge”!
May 28th, 2014 at 8:30 am
OK Bucs fans, say it like you mean it:
SUPERBOWL! SUPERBOWL! SUPERBOWL!
Bucs advance to Super Bowl after demolishing Seattle in the NFC Championship game in which Mike Glennon throws for 226 yards and 2 TDs and the defense runs 2 interceptions back for TDs.
OK so it’s a little bit of a stretch! We can all hope though.
May 28th, 2014 at 8:33 am
This is purely a strong endorsement for Lovie Smith….Edwards believes he will get the most out of his players and has great players.
I am not as concerned about our oline as others….there is still some time left and players to be added.
May 28th, 2014 at 8:40 am
THE Pablo caught a lot of flack yesterday for suggesting that the Bucs sign Joseph to a veteran minimum contract. Well, as it turns out, the Rams signed him to just that. In retrospect, was that really such a crazy suggestion?! Especially given the current state of our O-line?!
May 28th, 2014 at 8:40 am
Cleveland clearly will win the Super Bowl this year. They have the best 3 qbs on the planet. They have to if jm is 3 on depth chart.
May 28th, 2014 at 8:41 am
I flew all the way to Reno and bought my Suberbowl futures. My friends laughed at me when I did that for the 2008 Rays. I think we have a good chance at the wild card. Once you are in anything can happen. For sure it will come down to who stays healthy. Not only on the Bucs but other key players of our rivals. If Brees and Matty ice got hurt I think we would be a lock for the division.Look at Atlanta last year. In NO if Brees goes down they will be like the Colts without Manning. In the Bucs SuperBowl year we had the lowest inury rate of star players in a decade. If we have a top 5 defence and a 15th to 20th offence teams will worrie about us.
May 28th, 2014 at 8:45 am
Somebody needs to be drug tested…
May 28th, 2014 at 8:45 am
U do play too win the game . Hello!!!
May 28th, 2014 at 8:51 am
I am certain that Seattle proved that facing an “elite” QB don’t mean jack when you have an awesome defense. If “elite” QB’s won championships then Manning would have a handful of them. The defense will always win the championship.
May 28th, 2014 at 8:54 am
Plenty of time for o-line. Indeed! No panic buttons necessary.
Is the off-season so lets have fun with this one. But if you are still carrying residuals from last season by all means state your doom and gloom.
Here’s my vision:
Bucs 21 Seahawks 10 in Championship game
In the Super Bowl
Bucs 23 New England 21
To end the first half LVD scores a safety sacking Brady.
We win the game with time running out as McCown hits Evans on 70 yds. TD. And you guess it right Evans goes over the top of the infamous Darrelle Revis for the TD!
“Bucs Win! Bucs Win! The Bucs win their 2nd Super Bowl!!!” says Gene Deckerhoff
May 28th, 2014 at 8:56 am
@Macabee I don’t know what the hell you’re talking about, but it’s pretty funny
May 28th, 2014 at 8:59 am
Come on Joe! YOU’VE GOTTA BELIEVE! Okay, maybe the Super Bowl is a bit much. I’ll gladly settle for 10-6 with a playoff win.
May 28th, 2014 at 9:00 am
The salary cap ensures that every team cannot have superstars at every position. The talent that we have brought to Tampa is really exciting and if someone with Herm’s resume is willing to say on national TV that we have Super Bowl potential then I’m ok with that.
May 28th, 2014 at 9:06 am
Jimbo,
It’s meant to be comedy which I’m terrible at. But I do like that people are starting to see the possibilities. On the way to the Super Bowl, I say first things first like signing our draft picks. lol
May 28th, 2014 at 9:14 am
Already full from the last crow pie?
May 28th, 2014 at 9:33 am
lol
May 28th, 2014 at 9:47 am
Optimism always runs supreme in EVERY camp this time of year. (Can you say BUCS 2013?) Then reality hits in. Thank Gosh we don’t play the NFC West this year but don’t sneeze at the NFC NORTH and AFC NORTH. I still say with a whole new roster and coaching staff give me 9-7 (and that COULD make the playoffs!) and I will be very happy THIS year…NEXT year is another matter..I fully believe next year we can contend for great things.
May 28th, 2014 at 9:56 am
This O-line is realy a concern. Besides EDS and Collins (add maybe Meredith as RG) no one is a real starter..
Dotson concerns me the most, because some of the other guys wont start this year anyway and some are future developements (need 1st and foremost the right training)
https://vine.co/v/hPQibpUQDW1
May 28th, 2014 at 10:25 am
For a franchise that has been as bad as we’ve been for the last several years, I will take any optimism we can get. Go Bucs!
May 28th, 2014 at 10:45 am
@lightningbuc Says:
“…JOE KNOWS QBs!..”
Come on Lightning. Can you honestly point to one QB on our roster and make a realistic argument that he can take us to the SB? That is definitely one of the teams question marks, maybe not the top one, but its up there.
May 28th, 2014 at 11:09 am
The sky is the limit and hopefully there will be low hanging clouds. Macabee, that was funny about the ant in the river.
May 28th, 2014 at 11:17 am
Herm is a Mike Cannon fan and sees all that is possible for the Bucs now. Going to be a difficult year for the Mike Cannon lynch mob,
Sir, don’t speak for Joe. Joe wants nothing but success for Glennon. –Joe
May 28th, 2014 at 11:43 am
I was watching that NFL Live broadcast when he said it. Herm then followed up by saying “it’s only May,” and that he’ll prob change his mind a few more times in the next few months over what teams he actually thinks will make it. All about context.
May 28th, 2014 at 12:13 pm
Bjoren Werner – (JOE’S FAVORITE DRAFT PICK FOR 2013 – THE CAN’T MISS STUD!!!) drafted 24 overall…Had a MONSTER rookie season. He has ELITE potential…Oh wait, he had 2.5 sacks (on a playoff team with solid offense that gave plenty of opportunities to rush the passer.
JOHNNY FOOTBALL – 22nd overall pick. I’m willing to bet Joe’s track record gets even worse…
MGM 4 life.
May 28th, 2014 at 12:25 pm
the most exciting thing to me about this season is maybe learning just how much coaching and scheme held some of our players back the past 2 years. it really stings when you start to wonder how many promising careers were stalled by being put in the hands of the unprofessional raheem morris and the overmatched greg schiano, under the watchful eye of mark dominick who could not create any semblance of stability within the organization
May 28th, 2014 at 12:25 pm
Matt Ryan is overrated and was barely average last season, no doubt he requires a strong supporting cast to be really effective. I’m causally optimistic that Josh McCown can continue his great play from last season. Cannot be any worse then trotting out that loser Freeman.
May 28th, 2014 at 12:30 pm
@Bman:
Go back and look at last years standings. Last place in each division had the worst quarterback in said division (minus maybe jax and Houston-both terrible). Having the #4 quarterback screws you.
May 28th, 2014 at 12:38 pm
And yet another unwarranted and unnecessary slap at Bucs quarterbacks. It’s not so rare that a rookie quarterback plays like a rookie quarterback and struggle in their first year or two, only then to develop over a couple of years in the right environment into studs. And it’s not so uncommon that some QBs to blossom late in their careers. Will this be the case with the Bucs QBs? I don’t know. But it’s possible on both accounts. Reports out of OT’s are encouraging.
Still lamenting the loss of Johnny Football doesn’t warrant the constant bashing though.
May 28th, 2014 at 12:39 pm
I’ve been hollering Superbowl since the draft. I’m glad to see another knowledgeable football mind is in agreement. How the hell is anyone going to stop our offense?!? Joe, don’t worry, the guard situation will workout. I’m guessing during the 2nd wave of free agency… And our QB situation is adequate; all they need to do is effectively distribute the ball to our playmakers. Amd we have 2 guys who can do that.
May 28th, 2014 at 12:39 pm
Yeah our QB situation isn’t far behind Carolina or Atlanta. Your “4th best QB so we cant win” narrative is bs.
May 28th, 2014 at 12:39 pm
No one was talking about Russell Wilson willing Seattle to a championship that’s because he didn’t….as bad was the bucs were last year marshawn lynch Beat us not him, Brady and manning do nothing in superbowls anymore. Minimize mistakes, take care of the ball, take advantage of the defenses mistakes. Very few teams plan to throw 40-50 times a games except Schiano with a rookie qb, run game, smart qb play and defense won it for Seattle, stop feeding the need aqb hype unless your Jacksonville or raiders
May 28th, 2014 at 12:44 pm
Johnny is prob off somewhere watching small-penis-fetish porn & singing it’s a small world instead of watching game film, anyway, so don’t lament.
May 28th, 2014 at 12:50 pm
If Lovie Smith can get into the playoffs he is a dangerous coach.
Josh could rise to second best QB in the division if he plays like he did last year.
After all, that is his most recent body of work, so why not?
May 28th, 2014 at 1:09 pm
@Joe May be off topic but nobody in the world would have guessed that Atlético Madrid would reach the Champions league final vs Real Madrid that team just happens to have a good coach a good defense and after that there is not much the 10th best forward in their league ,scrubs etc.. so why not believe that the bucs can make the superbowl 1 player dosent make a team great even if it is a qb driven league I think the bucs will be just fine
Can’t compare soccer and football. Apples and oranges, especially when you consider tactics and the ability to play to hold a lead. Sorry. –Joe
May 28th, 2014 at 1:35 pm
@joe Not comparing the sports just comparing the championship mentality that a team must have starting from their fan base, just a example of what a good coach and a strong defense can do for a team that was stuck in mediocrity for the past 15 years.
May 28th, 2014 at 1:57 pm
Last three Super Bowl winning qbs Russell Wilson, joe flaco, and Eli manning. Those 3 guys are not elite. Eli and joe had horrible years last year Eli led the league in picks. The team that gets hot late and rides a good defensive through the playoffs usually wins.
May 28th, 2014 at 2:05 pm
Flaco had one of the best playoff runs in league history.
Russell Wilson is outstanding.
Eli played great and had huge impact on two Super Bowl wins.
Any of the three are miles above what we have now in terms of production.
That being said Josh may be the answer. But he will have to be for us to succeed.
May 28th, 2014 at 2:22 pm
Without Freeman, anything is possible.
Long live the MGM.
May 28th, 2014 at 2:46 pm
I agree it’s far to early to say who will go to the SUPERBOWL this year.And i also agree with the problem of the defensive line right now. BUT as far as not having a elite Q.B. well if you remember the BUCS have won a SUPERBOWL without a elite Q.B. so that doesn’t mean any thing but it would be nice to have a Elite Q.B. and who’s to say we don’t maybe he hasn’t come around yet.
May 28th, 2014 at 3:28 pm
In 2015, the Bucs can ponder a QB upgrade. Too late now, stop crying in your soup. The organization has stated that Mike Glennon is the QB of the future… for now.
Only way that changes is in mid season, he goes out and plays poorly or in 2015 offseason if we add a new QB of the future.
But Glennon is here for the year… so live with it.
So lets rewind a bit to the two opportunities the Bucs had to add a better QB then Glennon AND annoint him the QB of the future:
1) Free Agency. The only 2 QBs worth a darn were Mike Vick and Josh McCown. Who else was available as a free agent better than them? Lovie went with Josh McCown. So in opportunity 1, they signed one of the best two free agent QBs according to most.
2) The draft. Bortles, Manziel, Bridgewater… that was it. Bortles wasn’t worth trading up with Jacksonville for… he would have been very risky too… Glennon is as good as him… Tiny Manziel tanked and the Browns passed him over initially anyway… not many wanted him as proven… why? Because he is not NFL franchise material… certainly not better than Glennon… as demonstrated by the organization who by the way has better football intelligence than YOU. And lastly Bridgewater… barely got selected in round 1. Was not franchise material.
So there you have it.
You are gonna just have to wait until 2015 to get better at QB, because in 2014, no rookies were better than Mike Glennon as the QB of the Buccaneers football franchise.
The organization has done everything that they could have to upgrade the position. Resources just weren’t available.
May 28th, 2014 at 4:31 pm
Remains to be seen if Bridgewater or Manziel are franchise material.
Both are IMO.
Especially JF.
May 28th, 2014 at 6:49 pm
I think Herb has been partaking of the herb.
May 28th, 2014 at 6:49 pm
Herm.. that is. .. heh heh heh
May 28th, 2014 at 8:16 pm
Me and the Macabee ant! We feeling it this year! Go Bucs!
May 29th, 2014 at 1:02 am
The draft. Bortles, Manziel, Bridgewater… that was it. Bortles wasn’t worth trading up with Jacksonville for… he would have been very risky too… Glennon is as good as him…
Buc fan, leave that crack alone, Glennon couldn’t carry Bortles’s jock
May 30th, 2014 at 12:25 am
Uhh I can point to both qbs on the roster n say they can help make a deep playoff run… Look at the lovie blueprint strong run game n nasty def after that all u need a qb to do is manage the game n minimize mistakes its very possible guys look at russel wilson nowhere near elite as a qb but does just enough n lets the run game n def win the games… Bucs n the SB BOOK IT
May 30th, 2014 at 12:28 pm
With all due respect you don’t know what “best” QB we have in the division.
Every year is a different year and you don’t know how McCown will perform.
June 27th, 2014 at 7:28 pm
Shaun King led us to an NFC title with our defense. Defense wins championships, we all should know that by now. The line just have to protect long enough, and create just enough space for our rb’s . the talent is there on the defense to get it done, and the offense is underrated with the changes.