Jason Licht Talks “Panic Button” And Respecting Baker Mayfield
March 9th, 2024
GM Jason Licht says he will not panic.
In two days, Baker Mayfield can talk to other teams about playing quarterback for them this season for many tens of millions of dollars.
The Bucs chose to be in this position by not slapping the franchise tag on Mayfield that would have locked him up with a one-year deal for $35 million while the Bucs and Mayfield likely would have continued negotiating a new contract.
That tells Joe that either Buccaneers Ring of Honor general manager Jason Licht knows he’ll re-sign Mayfield, or Team Glazer drew a hard line in the contract sand that Licht can’t cross. Or both situations are in play.
Regardless, Licht knew he would be peppered with Mayfield questions when he hit The Rich Eisen Show yesterday. (Joe listens via the SiriusXM app). It intrigued Joe that Licht would put himself out there with the quarterback situation in limbo. That was another tip for Joe that Licht knows he’ll have a legitimate starting QB this season.
“We’re working through things right now,” Licht told Eisen. “You know, the player always has an option, too. So, it’s gotta work out for [Mayfield]. And I’m going to give him the respect of making a decision what’s best for him, too. I know he wants to be here. I know we want him. It’s just a matter of us trying to work through things.”
Licht had no hesitation telling Eisen that his QB should be in demand if he hits the free agent market on Monday.
“I’m sure there’s other teams that would like to have his services. I mean, we pride ourselves here on being pretty good evaluators, but I don’t think we’re the only ones that think he’s a good player,” Licht said.
Mayfield talking to the Vikings, Falcons, Patriots and more on Monday is not what Licht hopes to see. However, he’s not freaking out.
“If it has to go to there, it doesn’t necessarily mean he’s gone. I’d like to hope at least not,” Licht said. Neither side will “press the panic button … to rush anything right now,” he added.
March 9th, 2024 at 11:48 am
Baker’s gone and the Baker Boi’s will be crying for days.
March 9th, 2024 at 11:53 am
This endless speculation is amusing.
March 9th, 2024 at 11:54 am
Buc1987: I’m sure you have insider knowledge of the situation. 🙄
You’ll look like a total tool if he’s back, but you’re probably used to that by now.
March 9th, 2024 at 11:56 am
They trigger so easy.
March 9th, 2024 at 11:58 am
IMHO, if he goes to FA, he is gone.
someone at OBP screwed up if that happens
We could have had him for $35 mill and made him prove it again.
Disappointed.
March 9th, 2024 at 12:00 pm
Baker needs to remember what side his bread is buttered on. Bucs gave him a fair 1 yr prove it contract …. I hope he rememnbers that….
March 9th, 2024 at 12:00 pm
Please don’t overpay for him. 2-3 year deal max if that.
March 9th, 2024 at 12:00 pm
Buc1987 Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 11:48 am
Baker’s gone and the Baker Boi’s will be crying for days.
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LOL, Mayfield will be rich no matter where he goes. I for one hopes he does goes else where. The Tribe has shown a lot of disrespect. Words are one thing actions are another
March 9th, 2024 at 12:02 pm
I don’t care about how rich he’s going to be.
So long as he’s not regressing on our team.
March 9th, 2024 at 12:06 pm
I like what Jason is doing. Can’t over spend. He’s not Brady or close to that elite play. I would like to see baker back but not overpaying him when we have other needs to fill. Shoot with the weapons we have on offense insert cousins Russ or another capable QB for the low and spend the money on a elite pass rusher and bring in whitehead or another good safety to pair with AW31 and watch our defense win us another SB.
March 9th, 2024 at 12:08 pm
Don’t think, at this point, he’s worth $35 million. Maybe in the $20 million range. Another year like last year, consistency, maybe then in the $30’s.
March 9th, 2024 at 12:10 pm
Far as I can see, Bucs had 6 primary things they needed to accomplish this Spring with our own players:
o Re-sign Mike Evans … Done
o Re-sign Antoine Winfield … Done (via franchise tag)
o New contract for Tristan Wirfs … ??? (to make more salary CAP available for other re-signings)
o Re-sign Baker Mayfield … ???
o Re-sign Lavonte David … ???
o Re-sign Chase McLaughlin … ???
Right now we’ve only got $22.5 mil of salary CAP space, but JL has more cards to play to increase that (restructure or release several players, do new contracts for Wirfs & Winfield, etc). It’s still very early in the cycle, since FA doesn’t actually start for 4 more days and the draft doesn’t start until April 25th. Hasty decisions can be very costly. Patience is a virtue?
March 9th, 2024 at 12:10 pm
Trust Jason to do the right thing and if Baker truly can get paid like a Top 5 guy which is more than what Jason feels the Bucs can afford, then yay for the free market and onto Jacoby Brisset or John Wolford or Cooper Rush or Taylor Heineken or someone else. Maybe Jimmy G has been humbled enough to be affordable.
March 9th, 2024 at 12:14 pm
We aren’t going to pay the guy $45 million a year. He’s not worth that much. And we don’t have the cap space even if we wanted to without making some cuts (and we already have holes to fill as it is).
Baker had a good year. Proved a lot of people wrong. But he’s not Mahomes. He’s not Rogers. He’s not even Prescott. You don’t pay $45 mil for a QB that barely got you over .500 and you nearly benched mid-season. The Bucs know what’s he’s worth. They have a max on what they want to spend. They aren’t going to mortgage the farm because Baker had 1 good year in what has been an inconsistent career.
March 9th, 2024 at 12:16 pm
If Mayfield goes elsewhere, we would be in a tough spot. First, that scenario changes the entire draft strategy for the Bucs. Would the Bucs bring back Blaine Gabbert? Would he be able to beat out Kyle Trask in camp?
March 9th, 2024 at 12:17 pm
He is not going anywhere. He will hit Free Agency so his market value can be set vs. what the Bucs are saying they are willing to pay so far. From there the real negations will begin to settle on final numbers. Go BUCS!! Pass Rush Pass Rush Pass Rush
March 9th, 2024 at 12:23 pm
If the franchise tag is 38 million, how do some of you think he’ll get less than that? I believe there’s an outside chance some team offers an over-the-top number( which gets leaked) then… it gets fun to watch.
March 9th, 2024 at 12:32 pm
the guy had no running game and crappy blocking
gonna be a lot of angry fans next yr
March 9th, 2024 at 12:36 pm
One thing is for sure, Jason has seen enough of #2 as has Bowles. One guy who will not start for the Bucs or any other NFL team is Kyle’s Trashk.
March 9th, 2024 at 12:36 pm
Baker wasn’t franchised because it would be insane to pay $35M to a mediocre QB, who needed 9 points from his FG kicker to barely beat the worst team in the worst division in order to make the playoffs. BTW…and then blew it with an INT with plenty of time left on the clock.
March 9th, 2024 at 12:36 pm
J. Dean, C. Davis and LVD were all allowed to test free agency and they all ended up signing with the Bucs.
This is just a very wise negotiation tactic being utilized by our GM.
I would rather let Baker test free agency rather than overpay him with a bunch of guaranteed money and ruining our salary cap for the next 5 seasons…
I trust Jason Licht to do the right thing.
Go Bucs!
March 9th, 2024 at 12:39 pm
Buc1987 Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 11:48 am
Baker’s gone and the Baker Boi’s will be crying for days.
I’m on pins and needles hoping he bolts. Its not like baker fans have had any issues with rooting for his team and another team previously . Double he NFL fun – Kinda miss it after reading this blog for a awhile and suffering being unable to watdh a game with one of my teams because of blackouts.
I’m in athe atlanta area now so Falcons woudl be puuuuurfect. I’d root for the Ucs every game except the two agaisnt the falcons alll for the love of you guys lol. Plus can you imagient he FUN Baker bois would have trashing every single incomplete by Trask? ..hooping an hollering and high fives at every int?
Don’t even try to complain and talk real fans would support QB1 in 2024. You didn’t it all season long to 2023s QB1. It woud be GREAT returning the favor 🙂
March 9th, 2024 at 12:47 pm
“I don’t think we’re the only ones that think he’s a good player”
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Wow… only a ‘good’ player? Not great, not elite, but good?
That is mad disrespect.
That is Licht saying take the $20m we’re offering and be happy, that’s what good players get – and you’re not great, certainly not elite, and you’re not getting $40m.
March 9th, 2024 at 12:49 pm
Tony marks – So what you’re saying is that you’re not really a Bucs fan, never been a Bucs fan, know nothing about the Bucs, and you’re just a stalker that follows Baker from city to city. WOW, no one would have ever guessed that. I really thought you were a lifelong Bucs fan who wanted what was best for the team. To find out you’re actually just a Baker Boi … who knew.
March 9th, 2024 at 12:49 pm
I like Baker and have enjoyed watching him play this past season. I wouldnt give him $40 million a year though. That is a bad number for him as well because it puts a big target on his back, and he isnt going to get the years he is looking for. Its wise to let him test the market. Even if he leaves, that is a decent compensatory pick for a $4 million investment that got you to another division title. Licht already got the job done by bringing Evans back. I will gladly suck it up and watch Trask help ME13 get another 1000 yard season.
March 9th, 2024 at 12:49 pm
Dave Pear Says :”Jason has seen enough of #2″
“We like what we have behind door number 2.” – Jason Licht
March 9th, 2024 at 12:52 pm
Rod Munch: Daniel Jones got $40 mil per. Wrong again.
March 9th, 2024 at 12:53 pm
@ Tony
Hate to disappoint you but Cousins is probably going to sign in Atlanta.
According to several different reports – “Minnesota Vikings QB Kirk Cousins is expected to be on the move, and a potential landing spot for him is the Atlanta Falcons. There are rumors that Cousins is now looking at homes and schools in the city.”
March 9th, 2024 at 12:54 pm
BakerFan Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 12:00 pm
LOL, Mayfield will be rich no matter where he goes
and they don’t realize its spells a TOTAL fail for Licht if he leaves. Signing
Baker basically made it so that the bucs are not in cotention for a top pick. It also torched the second round pick of Trask by benching him again. Why woud trask stay even if he was fantastic?
I’m warming to your raiders take but I still think atlanta – cousins comes with achilles recovery and age and is mor expensive and Mcvey coaches like Mcvey himself love Baker.
March 9th, 2024 at 12:57 pm
@ Rod
Big surprise the troll that has constantly insulted 80% of the fans here at JBF is not a Buc fan…
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Who would have guessed it.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:01 pm
Rod Munch Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 12:49 pm
Tony marks – So what you’re saying is that you’re not really a Bucs fan, never been a Bucs fan,
LOl because I dont like and will trash QB1 in 2024 as you did in 2023??
thansk for the final admission Rod – you never were a bucs fan and you just admitted it.!! I’ll tell you what I will never do as a Buc’s fan – I’ll never root for the iinjury of a player like you did for baker back in November and I will never root for my bucs to be blown otu on national TV – again like you did.
BUt besides that – suit up – if Trask starts in 2024. You will get what you gave and then some :).
March 9th, 2024 at 1:05 pm
It could actually mean that Licht sees a way to promote the QB he prefers over the one Bowels prefers. 😉
March 9th, 2024 at 1:05 pm
Baker is not going anywhere. He is simply tired of starting over again with new teams and coaches. He has fought hard to bring himself back into significant consideration as an NFL starting QB. A bonified Franchise QB.
While Baker was hurt and taking his lumps after his early success in Cleveland the Biased controlled scripted Fake News work at souring his image by constantly implying that Baker’s talent aren’t first rate. Joining the Rams and then Tampa has rehabbed his confidence and self belief and he has most definitely flashed the skills and greatness that he possessed coming out of OU. But it is hard to beat the constant negative drumming ofpropaganda that the fake news pundits crank out.
He has something started here and I bekieve he would really like to pursue and deliver a Super Bowl with the Bucs and all the new friends he has made on this team and this town. He is allowing his agent to work the negotiations for the best possible benefit to him and the Bucs and the Bucs are taking the same approach. Baker may feel flattered by some outside offer but in the end he will say thank you and stay home just like ME.
Besides we haven’t heard from Mrs Mayfield ,Yet.Won’t be surprised if she makes the call. First child on the way. Happy wife,happy life.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:07 pm
Marine Buc Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 12:53 pm
@ Tony
Hate to disappoint you but Cousins is probably going to sign in Atlanta.
hate to disappoint you MB but Wilson is already seeing teams since being given permission by Denver . Lichts already falling behind and word is Wilson is going steeler or raiders.
” There are rumors that Cousins is now looking at homes and schools in the city.”
Oh poor MB Cousins has denied that report. try and keep up..
March 9th, 2024 at 1:08 pm
Tony Marks, you comments are always nasty. Ligthen up.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:09 pm
LOL – Gomer Pyle style – Surprise, Surprise, Surprise….
Tony isn’t a Bucs fan. Tony doesn’t even have a favorite NFL team….
The NFL love of Tony’s life is Baker Mayfield.
Tony only has eyes for #6. How sweet…..
March 9th, 2024 at 1:09 pm
You know who would really hate it if baker left? Joebucsfan. Doubtless baker has tripled site traffic since his arrival . I like Tannehill, minschew, etc, but there’s no qb lightning rod like baker. He’s like Trump. Nothing lukewarm about people’s opinions on the man. We baker boys love the validation he gave us, far exceeding expectations of most. Everyone loves to be right. Me included. No one likes to get it wrong… I hate it. But mostly , baker is must see tv because he can explode with greatness at anytime ( Green Bay) and break your heart on the precipice of greatness ( int to end potential great ending in detroit) .. Favre-seque. Compelling. Fun😊
March 9th, 2024 at 1:10 pm
Tony Rod was on JBF long before you or Mayfield.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:11 pm
QB Franchise tag is $38.3M Joe – not $35M
March 9th, 2024 at 1:12 pm
Tony, you sort of did hint that you are not a Bucs Fan above..kind of. Simple to fix…just state for the record.
I myself am a Bucs fan, and only a Bucs Fan. I like watching good football games they are not in, but I am not a fan of another team.
You stated above you will root for the Falcons except when they play the Bucs. That’s not gonna cut it with a division rival. We need all of them to do worse overall.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:16 pm
Bonzai….some peeps are just a-holes…
March 9th, 2024 at 1:16 pm
@ Tony
Calm down.
I said Cousins to Atlanta is a RUMOR. I didn’t say it was a guarantee but I can see it happening.
Why would Atlanta want to sign Baker after his lackluster performances against them last season?
They don’t want to overpay for a mediocre QB either…
March 9th, 2024 at 1:18 pm
Easiest to just repost the proper response to this article…
Pickgrin Says:
March 8th, 2024 at 9:59 pm
Mayfield knows he’s coming back – even if the Bucs let him talk to other teams – its only to solidify his true value on the open market.
If Baker’s agent claims he’s worth over $40M and won’t budge – and the Bucs think he’s worth $30M or less – then the only way to break the stalemate is to see what kind of offers Baker actually gets and go from there.
Baker wants to be in Tampa Bay and the Bucs want Baker as their QB.
Even if there is not a signed deal between Baker and the Bucs on Monday when legal tampering starts – I would be willing to bet the Bucs and Mayfield have a signed deal before Wednesday which is the first actual day of free agency….
March 9th, 2024 at 1:18 pm
I’d be surprised if Mayfield scoots elsewhere.
But I also would not hit the panic button if he did.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:22 pm
Nope. Not even remotely close.
Baker didn’t move the needle at all (Joe’s discussed this on Ira’s pod several times). Only until the Bucs got into a playoff race did the traffic spike.
Now Tom Brady, that man moved the needle.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:23 pm
Joe in Michigan Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 12:52 pm
Rod Munch: Daniel Jones got $40 mil per. Wrong again.
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Dead wrong about what, I don’t follow.
Anywho, Jones is literally considered the worst contract in the NFL, so I’m not sure why anyone who likes Baker would ever bring him up. He’s a warning on why you don’t pay a middling QB, franchise money.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:25 pm
Licht knows Mayfields market is not that high. Minnesota is going to resign Cousins, dirty birds are going to trade for Fields or trade up for a QB, the raiders are going to sign Wilson that leaves Bucs, Mayfields only option. Licht knows the score its 25 mil or nothing.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:25 pm
If we have to lose players to keep bake then f that. Let him walk, spend the money in OL and edge and start Trask.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:25 pm
With Jefferson at the Vikings they either sign Cousins and let their marquee edge guy go or vice versa. KOC may be looking for a cheaper Justin Fields or an Unknown on another roster.
Falcons are getting Cousins come Hell ir High Water and will add another weapon @ WR with the eighth pick. Kind of ironic as that will be the numbered jersey Kirk will be wearing next season.
Patriots need a QB but even the great Baker Mayfield would not have survived on their 2023 team. Smurf followed Brady in Tampa and maybe he could be the post Brady Savior in New England.
Of those 3 ATL is the closest to being a contender in the post season and Cousins makes sense.
Bills lost 5 defensive player because of the big deal they made with the QB and pushed the big cap hit to 24 and 25. They have no choice but to extend Allen’s Contract and dig the hole deeper. It might be their grave.
Broncos learned a hard lesson. Giants too. GM’s are going to lean toward caution.
Seattle signed Smith to a fair deal for a guy on a comeback and Mayfield has proven he is at least that. If he shoots for the upper stratosphere he won’t make it but has a safety net with Tampa. Bucs can wait him out until they don’t. Bucs may have offered 33, Mayfield swings fir 40, and it might be 30 or less if he misses and comes back with his tail between his legs.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:27 pm
The Herd did a blind qb comparison on Russell Wilson and has some valid points. The bucs getting Wilson for less money might now be such a bad move and allow licht to sign more talent
March 9th, 2024 at 1:27 pm
It’s so interesting that these Baker Bois are all so aggressive. If they don’t have an answer for facts or stats they lash out with personal insults and name calling. You bois better start loading up on some more names cause the Bucs are not gonna pay him more than $15M
March 9th, 2024 at 1:27 pm
Tony marks – I know you’re not the best and brightest … but did you really just use the ‘I know you are but what am I’ defense?
I know I like giving you a hard time and all, but that is just really sad. You shouldn’t be falling back on that after you get past about the age of 6.
I’ll pray for you.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:28 pm
Thx for reply. That surprises me.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:32 pm
I do believe if he hits FA it’s just a negotiation tactic to squeeze a bit more out of the contract. He doesn’t want to go somewhere else.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:33 pm
Actually 1987 since you can’t count, as long as Baker plays on a decent team the folks that like Baker will be happy. Most people would know that. Give him a good team and they will go to the bowl.
He played 4 games in the NFL on a broken shoulder. A guy like that is destined for greatness. Lmao again
March 9th, 2024 at 1:35 pm
trask can fill the void fine if necessary
March 9th, 2024 at 1:36 pm
Joe Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 1:22 pm
Doubtless baker has tripled site traffic since his arrival
Nope. Not even remotely close.
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But his commercials were so funny! When he’d take the trash out at the stadium … that makes him very relatable to me, I think, man, if I was a QB I’d live at the stadium to, and since I’m a good guy I’d take the trash out, just like an average Joe!
Speaking of which, there’s no way the Joe millionaires that run this place are taking out the trash. I know if I was in their shoes I’d have my servants do it, as I sat on my dock looking at my yacht. That’s why I like the Joe’s, they’re fancy people, like me – and not slumming it like Baker.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:36 pm
0-16 to 11-5 😂
March 9th, 2024 at 1:37 pm
“A guy like that is destined for greatness”
Mayfield and greatress doesn’t belong in the same sentence.
Greatness…what a laugher…
You do realize he’s been in the NFL for like 6 years now?
Anyone that roots for Atlanta while still calling themselves a Buc fan is indeed an a-hole.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:37 pm
@ Rod Munch – worst contract has to be DeShawn Watson.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:39 pm
Agreed, no need to panic. Bucs could sign Sam Darnold, Saquon Barkley, Leonard Floyd and Lavonte David for less than what it will take to sign Baker. It’s a gamble no matter who they roll with at QB, including Baker. Mayfield has to be kept for the right price, which I’d value at $100M over three years.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:40 pm
If Baker was that good, he’d be signed already… tells you how mis the Bucs think he is
March 9th, 2024 at 1:43 pm
Try and remember 87 there is only 1 game after Divisional before the superbowl
March 9th, 2024 at 1:44 pm
Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 1:12 pm
Tony, you sort of did hint that you are not a Bucs Fan above..kind of. Simple to fix…just state for the record.
Not that any of you are owed anything but Have done so many times. I am an amlumni of Univiersity of Miami. IF you dont know the MANY connections between tampa and UM in terms of players then you all are young to being buc fans. I also followed Cleveland again – connections to my alumni. Who knew? you can follow two teams in the nfl? lol . I followed Baker since having to abandon the browns. Gird dad . Principle over sports. coudn’t root for Deshauan.
I am jsut loooving the admission that not suporting QB1 of the Bucs is not being a Bucs fan. The confession is WONDERFUL coming from all you Baker haters. 🙂
March 9th, 2024 at 1:44 pm
Baker isn’t going anywhere, he is just trying to squeeze every dollar he can..Some of you guys claim to be bucs fan but you always have something negative to say.. Get on the boat now otherwise we won’t have room for you later.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:45 pm
I agree…..Baker is gone…..he’s going for his last HUGE payday to the highest bidder…..and his smart for doing so.
He was with Bucs for only one season…..he doesn’t have any loyalties to TB.
MONEY TALKS…….BAKER WALKS!!!!
March 9th, 2024 at 1:50 pm
I know I give the Baker Boi(s) a hard time since they’re awful people, but Baker is fine, and you can win with Baker, so long as you’re not paying him like a franchise QB.
He’s coming off a career year when he was 18th in QBR and 20th in scoring – and even if you like Baker you’d most likely expect a bit of a falloff from that. That’s not bashing him, I just think that’s a fair expectation, guys with his age and history rarely have back to back season where they improve on a career best year. That doesn’t mean he’d be awful or anything (trying to be fair), but even a small step back leaves you with a QBR in the 20s, which is generally when teams are trying to find a new QB.
From Licht’s standpoint, I do think it’s clear they like Baker, but as Licht said, he’s good – not great, not elite, not a franchise QB.
We’ll see what happens in the next few days, but I doubt the Bucs are going to suddenly decide to pay him like a franchise QB. So unless the Baker side moves, they’ll just take it to FA and see what happens. But who knows, I could be wrong. We’ll find out soon enough.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:52 pm
I’ve heard it said and agree that he is just waiting for Cousins to set the market and then Mayfield and the Bucs will have something similar. It would not surprise me if doesn’t even field any suitors.
It also wouldn’t surprise me if they agreed to this already as gentlemen.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:54 pm
So if Baker isnt back, cool, we’ll find someone….in the meantime it changes my draft a little
1st – Cooper Dejean or Jackson Powers (or trade down to top of 2nd for more draft capital)
2nd – (if we stay late 2nd) QB Spencer Rattler
3rd – this is where we work some trade magic and try for 3 players. We missed on the first pick with CB/Safety or a C (whichever), so try hitting there….then Jeremiah Trotter jr….then Audric Estime, or reverse that and get the CB/Safety or C with the last pick of the 3rd or top of the 4th.
And if we cant work out a deal with McLaughlin, then theres a pretty good kicker that might still be there late…Joshua Karty
Baker, be reasonable so we can avoid this and make other positions a priority.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:57 pm
Rod Munch makes some good points about Baker. Licht will not make a Daniel Jones-type deal to keep Baker. However, contrary to many of the opinions here, the market will decide Baker’s price tag to a large extent. It won’t be $20 mil/year, nor do I believe Licht will pay more than $40 mil/year. It will likely be around the same price as the franchise tag, but with terms favorable to the Bucs salary cap considerations, which is why Licht didn’t use the franchise tag on Baker.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:57 pm
If Mayfield goes elsewhere, that the cheese and bring in a couple of Big Experienced Uglies on the OL, and bask in the Trask task.
March 9th, 2024 at 1:59 pm
FrontFour Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 1:37 pm
@ Rod Munch – worst contract has to be DeShawn Watson.
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Watson is still a great QB. Before he got injured, again, after shaking off the rust, he was really impressive in the games where I saw him. Pinpoint accuracy, a gun for an arm, was moving really well. I’m just talking about on the field, but if healthy, he’s near an elite QB.
Jones is just a flat out bad QB. He had a career year, where he still wasn’t all that good, and the team paid him like he’s a franchise QB because they were afraid to let him test the market, and they were afraid to see what other options might be available.
March 9th, 2024 at 2:01 pm
Buccaneer Bonzai Says
That’s not gonna cut it with a division rival. We need all of them to do worse overall.
First off why would that be? I mean wasn’t and isn’t trask supposed to be so much better than Baker? I mean haven’t I heard d all season that Trask was the winner except for Bowles. So you are telling me that the SPECTACULAR super bowl team of Trask and Evans is going to be hurt badly by a loss to the falcons. Hmmmmm . Looks like I’d still be the better fan
Second claiming superior status because you only follow one team in the NFl is about as inellectually vacant as claiming to be a superior movie fan because you only watch movies with Dawyne JOhnson…News Flash – Sports is enterainment.
March 9th, 2024 at 2:07 pm
TheBucsAnthem Says:
“Baker is gone…..he doesn’t have any loyalties to TB.
MONEY TALKS…….BAKER WALKS!!!!”
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You are forgetting that the Bucs represent Mayfield’s best option. And vice versa.
Baker already invested himself heavily in this team last year by developing real relationships with most of his teammates.
They fought tough together for 19 games – had a very rough patch as a team during the middle of the season but came through that with hard work and faith in what they were doing to become a winning team – culminating with a legit run in the playoffs.
Yes Money is important but Baker has already made about $60M playing in the NFL and reportedly makes about $10M per year from endorsements….
At this point in his career and especially after all Baker has been through playing for crappy teams in Cleveland and Charlotte – I’m quite sure that being in a “good” and relatively stable situation is more important to Mayfield than chasing the $ in yet another town that DOESN’T have Mike Evans, Chris Godwin and Raschaad White to help Mayfield look good and be successful.
March 9th, 2024 at 2:11 pm
Well, of course you would say that. You have to justify.
March 9th, 2024 at 2:12 pm
Buc1987 Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 1:37 pm
Anyone that roots for Atlanta while still calling themselves a Buc fan is indeed an a-hole.
and God knows you have more than enough years of experience being that to know ..lol
As matter of factt. I”ll call and raise going ever further. I’d be on board for a rebuild and some losing seasons as well which If baker walks is what should have hapened and Licht BLEW IT because it was pointless to give up a top spot in this years draft just for a division titile. .
March 9th, 2024 at 2:12 pm
Davyboy….yes but you have to get to that game….Baker got picked off and choked.
March 9th, 2024 at 2:15 pm
Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 2:11 pm
Well, of course you would say that. You have to justify.
Talking to me? I guess? If so Oldt imer you really are an old timer if you think I need to justify anything to you…LOl
March 9th, 2024 at 2:17 pm
Tony marks…you’re not a Bucs fan sooooo.
March 9th, 2024 at 2:20 pm
Buc1987 Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 2:12 pm
Davyboy….yes but you have to get to that game….Baker got picked off and choked.
Remember now. You should not say that if you are a true bucs fan. As you indicated YOu should suport t QB1
The standard has now been set. We’ll be watching you , bonzi , Marine and Roddy\. to see if you are true fans 🙂
March 9th, 2024 at 2:20 pm
#TonyIsADirtyBirdFan
#IgnoreTony
March 9th, 2024 at 2:21 pm
That was the risk that was taken when AW was tagged. I think it was a long term decision, as AW is in our long term plans, while Baker is likely a few years. Will that prove to be the best decision? I don’t know..
March 9th, 2024 at 2:23 pm
I get being a falcon fan is for low intellectual individuals, but Baker is not our Starting QB at present. He’s not even a Bucs QB atm.
March 9th, 2024 at 2:23 pm
“Tony marks Says:
and they don’t realize its spells a TOTAL fail for Licht if he leaves. ”
Total nonsense
^^mtnbucman^^
Since ’76
March 9th, 2024 at 2:24 pm
AW = Future HoF
March 9th, 2024 at 2:25 pm
I see liar small rod Muncher is out to spread misinformation
March 9th, 2024 at 2:30 pm
THINK BACK TO GENO SMITH?
Who, other than Seattle, would have signed Geno to $26M a year?
No one.
Geno was a backup before Seattle. Baker is in the same boat. Bucs are his only option.
March 9th, 2024 at 2:35 pm
The reason you don’t tag Baker is then he can play hardball & now you’ve got @17 mil less to sign mid tier FAs.
With Winfield, you can secure him now and put that contract on the backburner as late as July & have an extra 17mil to work with.
There’s a boatload of all cap cuts cuts out there right now and the Bucs probably anticipated this.
Thinks are always fluid, so you never want to tie all your money up.
While not conclusive, it could also signal the Bucs are if effect saying, we like you, but (if I had to guess) not more than 25-30 mil.
If they do decide to pay him more, they’ll have to kick the can down the road, &
1) they said they don’t want to do that
2) it’s not the best, most responsible way to build a roster
Not rocket science
^^mtnbucman^^
since ’76
March 9th, 2024 at 2:39 pm
Tony marks Says:
“The standard has now been set. We’ll be watching you , bonzi , Marine and Roddy\. to see if you are true fans 🙂”
1. Watch away. I usually ignore you anyway, especially during the season.
2. BK is boring.
3. I never said I would support a particular QB in the long term. So take that as ammo. But you will NEVER catch me rooting for a division rival. That is a straight up betrayal of the team you follow.
So, suck it up troll boy. We’ve been here on JBF for 10+ years, and we’ve seen plenty like you come, talk big, and then go running with their tail between their legs…then try to sneak back with new usernames.
You can troll us, insult us, call us whatever you want. Doesn’t matter because we have stood the test of time…we’ve made folks of your ilk run more times than we can count. We’ve been enemies of each other. We’ve been allies. But one thing has never changed:
We’ve been Bucs Fans together.
And that doesn’t include just us. I could provide a long list of names if I wanted to. You are out numbered, out gunned, and out classed.
March 9th, 2024 at 2:43 pm
^^mtn^^ Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 2:23 pm
“Tony marks Says:
and they don’t realize its spells a TOTAL fail for Licht if he leaves. ”
Total nonsense
Prove it. make a rational case. I know it will be first among Baker haters but theres always hope.
Bucs coudl have played trask all season long instead of bringing in Baker. IF they even play him now then he will be in his final year. IF he balls out he will want to bolt unless you pay him the moon because of sitting him for three years
Second you risked and lost giving up a top spot in a QB rich draft. IF trask flopped then you would have known you need the pick even more. Baker walks then Bucs got nada toward the future – not even a bridge if a rookie QB falls magically into our laps.
SO kicking trask to the final season and losing out on this year draft is offset by a division title? Total nonsense , The results would be a Licht FAIL..
March 9th, 2024 at 2:55 pm
@Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
a whole lot of emotional nonsense
You just outed yourself as knowning very little about Buc history. Anyone who knows anything woud have known the deeper ties between Univerity of Miami and TH eBucs are rooted in players loooong ago whic puts me as following the Bucs for decades.
the come back you posted on these blog comments before someone else so you are the real buc fans is about anemic as one can get. check your blood pressure though you seem to be working up quite the sweat..
March 9th, 2024 at 2:56 pm
Buchen61, you got that right about out to lunch munch, misinformations galor
March 9th, 2024 at 3:04 pm
Baker needs to learn from history, if he truly wants the Lombardy. He needs to sign on as team friendly. He needs to check out the cap space. He needs a team that can support him, and carry him if needed. We need to have quality players on the OL and a quality defense. It takes a defense to win the SB too. He may have earned MVP at the Pro Bowl, but that was just fun and games. It is what he can do on the field of play. Be able to rest the defense, mind the clock, and lead the offense to score. Field goals are very important, but they do not win Superbowls. Just ask Mahomes. So we need to resign the man who scored the only points against Carolina. Otherwise Bakers winning season would be a losing season.
March 9th, 2024 at 3:05 pm
Well 87 if he got picked off then I guess that means there’s more than 1 game? Wow
News flash he still got TB within a game of the big game regardless if he threw a pick or not. Some of you haters logic is really missing. Or is it that the truth spins you out to where you get dizzy🤪
March 9th, 2024 at 3:05 pm
Pickgrin Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 2:07 pm
TheBucsAnthem Says:
“Baker is gone…..he doesn’t have any loyalties to TB.
MONEY TALKS…….BAKER WALKS!!!!”
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You are forgetting that the Bucs represent Mayfield’s best option. And vice versa.
Baker already invested himself heavily in this team last year by developing real relationships with most of his teammates.
They fought tough together for 19 games – had a very rough patch as a team during the middle of the season but came through that with hard work and faith in what they were doing to become a winning team – culminating with a legit run in the playoffs.
Yes Money is important but Baker has already made about $60M playing in the NFL and reportedly makes about $10M per year from endorsements….
At this point in his career and especially after all Baker has been through playing for crappy teams in Cleveland and Charlotte – I’m quite sure that being in a “good” and relatively stable situation is more important to Mayfield than chasing the $ in yet another town that DOESN’T have Mike Evans, Chris Godwin and Raschaad White to help Mayfield look good and be successful.
____________________________
No
Bro,
The BUCS are not the best option for Baker
…………THE MOST MONEY BAKER can get is the best option for Baker.
Because knows last season may have been his best season and he better cash in all his chips now cause he doesn’t know if he’ll get another opportunity like this again!
March 9th, 2024 at 3:11 pm
He ain’t going anywhere. You don’t tag him because that takes away the ability to play games with signing bonus, incentives, back load void years, sweeten the pot with guaranteed money. Old boy is not gonna sign for less than Daniel Jones, but he will accept a contract with incentive escalators that make it team friendly. Baker bets on himself, always has
March 9th, 2024 at 3:12 pm
J.Sinclar say maybe 20 mill & a WR makes 26 mill WTF r u smoking or injecting it clearly bad for u knucklehead
March 9th, 2024 at 3:15 pm
And just stop with that “he’s mediocre” and “not elite” crap. Mike Evans says he’s elite. Pretty sure the guy that catches the passes has a good idea what he’s talking about
March 9th, 2024 at 3:16 pm
Am I wrong or didn’t Licht & Bowles get Baker input on new OC who does that without knowing he will be back that sounds really dumb to me
March 9th, 2024 at 3:23 pm
Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 2:23 pm
I get being a falcon fan is for low intellectual individuals, but Baker is not our Starting QB at present. He’s not even a Bucs QB atm.
Seeing as you are with rod on most of his lies no surpise you are going down that road. Never been A Falcons fan. Atlanta is horrid and will leave as soon as my work here is done. Bad sport support history as well esecially in the NBA
Will I root for games with baker if he goes there? YEP. Pound dirt . its my call. You get no say. . Would I root for atlanta over Bucs if there were playoff implications? not likely ( unlike you I won’t give my allegiance to any team no matter what – Bucs hire Deshuan watson or do something deplorable – all bets are off).
Bake was your starting QB and you trashed him all season long You really did learn the Pinochio nose growing thing from rod well.
March 9th, 2024 at 3:23 pm
Buccaneerbonzai plz 1 year here 10 years here does not mean u r rite bout anything just proves u r jealous there are plenty of people out there with plenty of good input better than the bs u spew u r post name says it all som ting wong
March 9th, 2024 at 3:24 pm
Guys…this is complete theater…smoke and mirrors
March 9th, 2024 at 3:26 pm
this site money walks & this site bs talks u can take that to the bank!
March 9th, 2024 at 3:27 pm
Maybe 35?
March 9th, 2024 at 3:27 pm
He won’t see 30 from tampa
March 9th, 2024 at 3:30 pm
Kyle Trask will lead this team to the playoffs with a stacked roster and we’ll have our franchise QB.
When it’s all said and done Trask will be the better player.
Let Mayfield go get his contract. The Bois will follow and we can move on and win some games.
Remember Bucs were 4-7 at one point. They ran into a very soft part of the schedule, but as soon as they had to go on the road to a tough opponent Baker threw the pick and the Bucs lost.
Kyle Trask is a prototype and he will prove the doubters wrong.
March 9th, 2024 at 3:41 pm
@ buckeye
“And just stop with that “he’s mediocre” and “not elite” crap”
Baker Mayfield is a mediocre QB – not “elite”…
March 9th, 2024 at 3:42 pm
Rodney, you keep saying Baker had a career year last year. Actually his 2020 season was very similar. If not slightly better. I know you’re in love with QBR, but the general NFL quarterback rating that’s mostly used still has him with a higher rating in 2020 than last year. Just pointing that out since you always say that he had a career year with us. Literally.
March 9th, 2024 at 3:51 pm
Small rod Muncher is a fraud….nothing but misinformation
March 9th, 2024 at 3:52 pm
Small rod Muncher do you remember Tom Brady’s last pass in New England…you are a fraud…just a hater
March 9th, 2024 at 3:54 pm
LOOLLLOOOLLLL
Just draft Rattler….let him go Jason, f him!
March 9th, 2024 at 3:55 pm
Marine Buc Says:
Baker Mayfield is a mediocre QB – not “elite”…
“Baker is elite.”
— Mike Evans, professional WR that played with Tom Brady
🙂 Forever henceforth defeated.
March 9th, 2024 at 3:56 pm
Old 87 says Baker choked in the Lions game. Actually if you could read well 87 you would remember the truth came out about that pick. The receiver wasn’t in his position. Maybe you don’t know this, but in the NFL those “routes” they run have to be exact every time because that qb throws to that “exact” spot. Many times the ball is thrown before the receiver is in that exact spot and if hes not there, its called a pick. Broaden your horizon, read more. And it wasn’t Baker that brought that little detail to light. So there you go again talking from an ignorant position. This is “exactly” why the athletes don’t care what you think or say. As long as the coaches know. And they know. That’s why he is about to get a big payday
March 9th, 2024 at 3:57 pm
New OC…soon to be a new HC….its time to rebuild boys!
March 9th, 2024 at 3:57 pm
Steven007 Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 3:42 pm
Rodney, you keep saying Baker had a career year last year. Actually his 2020 season was very similar.
He knows . It s been pointed out a least ten times before but being honest has never mattered.
March 9th, 2024 at 4:01 pm
Dav, 87 is just having fun with you
What up 87, man did we have some moments back in the day HAHAHA…we were part of the drama queens that fueled this for the Joe’s….but its good to see replacements….i dont have the time or care anymore.
March 9th, 2024 at 4:02 pm
Tony Marks,
If Trask were to get the nod as a starting quarterback this year for the Bucs, and he did ball out why do you think he would bolt?
The Bucs would still be in control of him and could always franchise tag him to work out a long-term contract if he deserved it.
I think you forgot about that…
March 9th, 2024 at 4:05 pm
Evans dont care….he got paid and he’ll roll with who can get him the ball….we need that quick twitch high IQ sees it in nanoseconds like a Brady or a Baker….and I see that in Rattler. IDK anymore, go with Trask the first half of the season and then put Rattler out there.
its gonna be a crap year boys, but we’re used to it, all good.
March 9th, 2024 at 4:09 pm
Honestly… 2020. 2023. As good as it gets, which isn’t good enough.
Oh and making claims about a receiver being out of position just says your boy can’t read a the defenselive player positioning relative to the wr well enough to recognize the mistake. It happens and when it does, the ball should not be thrown to that particular target. Qb’s fault.
March 9th, 2024 at 4:12 pm
28 td’s, 10 picks, 4k yards, most others stats in or near top ten. WHAT would any team pay for that? is the question
Aint’s paid $32 million, didn’t get it
Rams paid $40 million, didn’t get it
Iggles paid $51 million, didn’t get it
Giants paid….lolololol (never mind THAT one)
March 9th, 2024 at 4:15 pm
Licht and the Bucs FO is wise to explore their options. If Mayfield and his agent want a lot of guaranteed money that would be too difficult for the team to bridge that type of gap.
March 9th, 2024 at 4:18 pm
Olboy, The point is it’s a mischaracterization and implies that it came out of the blue as a new standard. Which clearly isn’t the case. Either way, I have no dog in this fight because I’m not the GM or the guys writing the checks. I’m simply a fan. Whoever is under center is my quarterback. Bake came through with a good season. Would like to see you again if it’s in the cards. If not, I hope we roll with the next best option available. All of this other silly conjecture is just that, conjecture.
March 9th, 2024 at 4:24 pm
I JUST DON’T GET IT…
Why do so many Bucs fans that seem to love Baker not pay any attention to how he performed for the season? He was like 19th in QBR. He’s in the lower half of starting QBs.
He had games of 137, 144, 146, and 173 yards passing. Those are TOTAL YARDS PASSING for entire games. So for nearly 1/4th of games for the season he didn’t even pass for 175 total yards in a game. And two of those games were against division rivals (Carolina & Atlanta).
If you break down FIRST HALF passing yards for his season it gets even UGLIER. Many games Baker didn’t even past for 100 yards in the first half when the game was on the line and the offense needed to produce points. So much of his 4K yards on the season came in the 2nd half, often when we were already down multiple scores to better teams and they started playing softer coverage.
I just don’t understand how people ignore his terrible play and think we only made the playoffs because of him. Heck, if it wasn’t for Winfield’s game-saving plays we wouldn’t have even made the playoffs last season.
Mayfield is HIGHLY OVERRATED and Jason Licht knows it. There’s a reason we’re not rushing to give him a ridiculous contract. He’s not worth it. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Licht lets him walk.
March 9th, 2024 at 4:26 pm
Steven007 – I’m using a combo of his QBR and his productivity. He’s had higher season QBRs, but those were on teams where he was literally nothing more than a basic game manager, with the NFL’s best rushing game and one of the best offensive lines.
If you go strictly by QBR then Baker wouldn’t even get $10m – since he wasn’t very good and has never been all that good. People wanted to run Winston out of town, but he literally had a higher QBR in 4 of his 5 seasons compared to what Mayfield did last year, in what people consider a career year / best season of his career.
The reason I’d even say to bring Baker back one more year is that he earned it. However, he didn’t earn $40m – and he didn’t earn a multi-year deal either. I’d be OK with the $25-28m range on a deal structured so the Bucs can get out of it next year if he flames out, but would also give him $40m+ if he did enough to earn it. So they can announce it however they want, so long as there is an obvious out.
From Baker’s side, obviously he’s trying to play this up as big as possible and get as much guaranteed money as possible. There’s nothing wrong with that, he bet on himself last year and deserves a big raise – for one year, anyways.
I don’t think any of that is unfair to Baker. He’s a very risky guy to give big multi-year money to. There’s a reason he was on his 4th team in a year last year at this time. But there is no way, with his performance, production, track record, and how incredibly inconsistent he was last year, that I’d pay him like a franchise QB – and it seems like the Bucs are saying the same thing.
With all that said, I’ve thought all along the Bucs will end up signing him for next year, and they probably still will. But I’d be much happier if Atlanta went all in, gave a legit huge multi-year deal to Baker – because the chances of him flopping are extremely high.
March 9th, 2024 at 4:30 pm
Man o man. SNL aint got nothin on most of these here jokers. But please keep posting funny drivel. I will be highly disappointed if mayfield leaves. Most teams would feel lucky to be in the bucs position.
When sean peyton gets his prize, and we’re left holding nothing but deez nutz in return don’t say a thing.
March 9th, 2024 at 4:37 pm
@ Trask to the future
“I just don’t understand how people ignore his terrible play and think we only made the playoffs because of him.”
It is easier to use pure emotion and insults than it is to actually look at the facts and use logic.
I still think Baker will be our QB next season but not for more than $30M per season and with only one season guaranteed.
March 9th, 2024 at 4:40 pm
Small rod Muncher spewing more Baker Mayfield misinformation…total fraud
March 9th, 2024 at 4:42 pm
I have always liked those that spread “falsehoods” and when called out say “man I’m just messin with you” . Well man I’m just messin with you 87
March 9th, 2024 at 4:43 pm
I don’t know how we made the playoffs last year…but have been on the strength of our run game and stellar secondary play
March 9th, 2024 at 4:44 pm
The Bucs would still be in control of him and could always franchise tag him to work out a long-term contract if he deserved it.
I think you forgot about that…
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nope I was staying within the realm of reality not science fiction. I have in other posts covered him wanting to be paid as I said ” the moon”. Baker no matter what you guys say balled out this year – everyone outside of tampa says so and yet most of you think him underserving of 35 million . 2024 likely even a higher tag and then theres the issue of it hitting the cap fast
but let me fantasize with you that his level of ‘ball out” ( which was not my defintion of ball out) is SUPERSTAR level ( delusional as that is). We would have known that THIS year which means we would have a whole year to negotiate a contract and not have to use the tag. We also would not have any bad blood because the position would have been reasonable. We would have let him loose after Brady retired as he had thought – not brought in anothe guy.
Bad blood generally means you are going to have to pay much more than if there were not bad blood. So in no situation is it a win for Licht.
FOR anyone that doesn’t have the consiracy theory Kyle won – He would have been a practical rookie with skills below baker and lost more game – thus again back to the high pick lost.
March 9th, 2024 at 4:46 pm
@ Marine Buc
EXACTLY.
It’s amazing how quickly so many forget all the games that Baker was completely ineffective in entire halves of games.
March 9th, 2024 at 4:48 pm
IF, IF Mayfield goes to Free agency, then licht has completely bungled this.
From the outside, it appears as if Light thought he had a verbal commitment from Mayfield.
He did not. He payed Mayfield 5 million last year. That number doesnt endear you to your young QB.
We wasted the franchise tag on a safety. Thats sad. Safeties are lowest men among player salaries. If Winfield went to Free agency- who cares. Teams have been cutting probowl safeties like fish bait. We could pay our young safety top dollar. Not a big deal.
But you let several QB hungry teams get in a bidding war- and the decision not to franchise Mayfield will cost the Bucs Millions in Salary and cap space. And it only takes one QB desperate team, willing to pay a moving truck to relocate the Mayfields, and give Baker more money than us
And Licht has no choice now, but to match top offer. He has no plan B.
There are no QBs worth signing in Free agency, except Mayfield.
If we lose Mayfield, it will be pretty entertaining around here. Watching noodle arm throwing up softballs, like he did in preseason, will turn both sidelines into a Defensive back track meet..
We’ ll watch someone else win the NFC SOUTH, while Licht keeps trying to explain that it was a business decision. Fans will turn on the coaches, management, and ownership.
It will almost be worth it, to watch the pirate ship implode. I was aroud when the fans went absolutely rabid over losing Doug Williams. They SCREAMED At Jack Thompson.the poor SIB that they traded for to replace Doug. .
And they live Mayfield more than they did Doug!
I still hope they sign Mayfield. But Ive laughed at them as often as Ive cheered them.
Either way. People are gonna lose their mind!
March 9th, 2024 at 4:50 pm
Let me give you guys a little clue…
If Baker Mayfield was an “elite” QB he would already be signed to a contract.
How many “elite” QBs are allowed to test free agency?
Are you all saying our GM is incompetent?
March 9th, 2024 at 4:53 pm
Trask To The Future Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 4:24 pm
I JUST DON’T GET IT…
Why do so many Bucs fans that seem to love Baker not pay any attention to how he performed for the season? He was like 19th in QBR. He’s in the lower half of starting QBs.
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if for once we could have a rational conversaion tht would be great because my counter would be
We cant get why YOU guys look at top ten in TDs and yards as “mediocre”.
You always pretend like QBR is the one and only NFL defined unquestioned system and ignore th positive stas. Either that or you go to toal BS lying teccniques like Munch and try and sneak in running back production into a QBs scoring.
March 9th, 2024 at 4:55 pm
If he was elite Baker would’ve been signed first.. you know whonis elite, Evans and Winfield
March 9th, 2024 at 4:57 pm
Winfield won games for the Bucs… Baker did not… Baker was along for the Winfield magic happening all year long
March 9th, 2024 at 5:00 pm
Here is a thing in my opinion. As good as Bakers “bounce back year” was under Canales. Guess what, it means nothing. There is a completely new offense and who is to say Baker will pick it up and excel. Took him 7 weeks to get going under Canales. Give Baker 30-31 Million and let him decide. Minshew is just as appealing under a new offense and HOF weapons.
March 9th, 2024 at 5:00 pm
By the way, Joe, unless your metrics separate site hits from posters posting, a Saturday afternoon article that’s after the season and before the draft that has close to 140 comments seems to be a bit outsized to the usual.
March 9th, 2024 at 5:03 pm
Anyone who is doubting that Baker won’t be back is full of blarney. Not only will Baker be back, but he will be paid twice what Brady got. After all he is an elite athlete, first round pick and Heisman winner. Come on! Brady was washed up and only a 6th rounder who could not spell Heisman. Keeping it real (Joe) in Ireland.
March 9th, 2024 at 5:03 pm
Oh I’m pretty sure it takes an elite qb to go into a bottom feeder organization, 3-44 the previous 3 years, and turn it around to 11-5 all while playing musical chairs with 2 or 3 coaches. Not to mention running for your life every play until the law of averages catches up to you and you have a broken shoulder and a completely torn labrum. Out of all the great qbs that have played the game who has the rookie record for most touchdowns while missing 2 games? Ol’ Bake. If you looked up the definition of elite there would be a picture of Baker Mayfield. Just sayin 😉
March 9th, 2024 at 5:05 pm
You guys have got to be Texas fans, got to be.
March 9th, 2024 at 5:05 pm
Marine Buc Says:
How many “elite” QBs are allowed to test free agency?
Might want to ask Mike
“Baker is elite.”
— Mike Evans, professional WR that played with Tom Brady
question is when are you going to wise up and see your definition of elite is nonsense.
March 9th, 2024 at 5:06 pm
When we trot out Jacoby Brisset or Garnder Minshew next year….some of you are gonna be real mad. Mike’s streak will be over as well.
March 9th, 2024 at 5:08 pm
@ tony
Thank goodness Mike Evans is not the Bucs GM… What a mess that would be.
LOL!!!!
March 9th, 2024 at 5:12 pm
If this really is about Baker wants a 3 years deal at $35-$40M per year guaranteed (which is very team friendly by Top 10 QB pay rates) with 4th year team options versus similar deal for 2 years… and Baker walks to another team for the same 3 year guaranteed deal, this site will erupt. Because $35-$40M for 3 years guaranteed is a bargain for top 15 QB. Unless you don’t believe in Baker in which case, why didn’t you tag Baker and pay Winfield just $2M more a year above franchise tag money for Safeties?
No slight to those who think Winfield was FA priority #1, please remind me which team makes a deep playoff run because of a Safety? The smart thing to do would be to sign Winfield for safety franchise money for 3 years and tag Baker for 1 year and work out a 2 year deal that gives you an out on $40M a year in year 3. You gave up leverage on the much bigger whale.
I have to believe Licht is too great a GM not to franchise Baker because he knows Baker will find out he is worth 3 years at $35M guaranteed on the market (Atlanta and Minnesota). And Baker will take the same 3 year deal with Tampa and we save $5M a year for 3 years. And if he leaves, he has Russell Wilson in the bag. If we lose Baker and he leaves for Minnesota or Atlanta and we don’t get Wilson, it may get frosty in Buc Nation.
March 9th, 2024 at 5:12 pm
Hey TF, you apparently aren’t aware Baker jumped on a plane and in 48 hours was playing winning football for the Rams. Mcvay laughed at how fast Baker picked up his very complicated offense. The list goes on guys.
March 9th, 2024 at 5:19 pm
agnosticbuc..
“It’s on record that I’ve played with many quarterbacks throughout my career, but that doesn’t matter. Whoever the quarterback is, he’s an NFL quarterback.” – Mike Evans.
March 9th, 2024 at 5:26 pm
“Baker Mayfield was almost on his way out of Tampa Bay mid-year.” “He was on his way out of Tampa Bay. He turned things around again in Tampa Bay. But in the middle of the year, there was questions about whether or not he was going to be benched for Kyle Trask.” –Meshawn Johnson
The list goes on guys.
March 9th, 2024 at 5:32 pm
Go Jacoby!
March 9th, 2024 at 5:35 pm
So many future gms on this site it’s crazy or a bunch of know nothings
March 9th, 2024 at 5:40 pm
Whats so ironic is that this bucs team pays out the nose for 2, thats 2 lawnchairs that masquerade as cornerbacks; not to disrespect everyday beach going lawnchairs, and squeeze a pro bowl mvp playoff proven QB like a piece of horse manure. What gives?
March 9th, 2024 at 5:41 pm
“There were some whispers that perhaps Baker would be the option for Minnesota if they lost Kirk. I was told that is not true. “He’s not the type of player they’re looking to go after.” –Diana Russini
March 9th, 2024 at 5:41 pm
So, Getting very tired of this. Baker, will resign. They have already agreed, in principle. It is the guarnteed money that is being worked out. 3 years, at 110. Before you all go insane, Pro bowl QB(MVP) top 15 in every metric. Hell, would expect fully guarnteed.
March 9th, 2024 at 5:43 pm
Dubcity,
Winfield started every game for the Bucs in the secondary.
The 29th ranked Secondary. Bottom 3 in thr league. HORRIBLE SECONDARY!
Yet some of you buy the press clippings. Winfield made a couple great plays. He also didnt help our embattled CBs- which is his job. Our Secondary was 3rd worse in the league. And Winfield was part of it.
Yeah, hes winning games for us. Mayfields greatness was his ability to overcome our pathetic pass defense. Our anemic pass rush.
Worse rushing attack and TE production in the league.
No QB HAS EVER WON A DIVISION TITLE WITH THOSE OBSTACLES.
NO QB HAS EVER WON A PLAYOFF GAME FACING THOSE HORRIBLE UNITS ON HIS TEAM.
Elite? Hes a damn miracle worker!
We may get to see it first hand, when he brings his FC South Champion Falcons to town- and whips our arse twice a year.
Winfield, Evans, Lavonte, Godwin.
All losers until Brady and Mayfield rode into town.
They didnt win sh*t!
March 9th, 2024 at 5:44 pm
Fans need to come to grips that Baker is going to sign for 33-36m a year here or somewhere else. The important part is the details. The Bucs need an escape route if he not playing well after the first year or two. They don’t want to be paying him 15-25m against the cap for years that he’s not even here ala Russel Wilson.
March 9th, 2024 at 5:47 pm
Capt.Tim …what will you say when and if he regresses?
March 9th, 2024 at 5:53 pm
Marine Buc Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 5:08 pm
Thank goodness Mike Evans is not the Bucs GM… What a mess that would be.
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watching your tryng to struggle out of Evans completley blowing up your world is a lot like watching a national geograhic documentary
“the young MB sapling tries to hold off the attack of the much larger Mike evans size brid . Its a courageous fight but in the end the size and power is too much and the contest ends in lifelessness of the MB sapling”
March 9th, 2024 at 5:53 pm
Hope we make it to football season. Looking doubtful.
March 9th, 2024 at 5:54 pm
Go minshew!
March 9th, 2024 at 5:55 pm
1 year 30 million.
March 9th, 2024 at 6:04 pm
Capt Tim…I salute you…but you can’t teach these simpletons…some of these posters are missing more than a few brain cells…. according to these dimwits we just use our compensation 6th round pick to draft the quarterback of the future… problem solved
March 9th, 2024 at 6:08 pm
Why would you franchise tag a safety that played on 29th ranked pass defense but let a potential franchise QB maybe walk…Brady is gone is it time for the bucs to regress to their norm
March 9th, 2024 at 6:10 pm
What playoff winning QBs can the bucs get for $30 m
March 9th, 2024 at 6:11 pm
GhostofBrady Says:
And if he leaves, he has Russell Wilson in the bag. If we lose Baker and he leaves for Minnesota or Atlanta and we don’t get Wilson, it may get frosty in Buc Nation.
Russel is already in talks with multiple teams not the bucs – being given permission by Denver. Steelers and raiders seem to be the early favorites. So Licht has no wilson in the bag. theree another alternative to your theories and that is that Licht never anticipated Baker playing at a level to command 35 mill and that he brought Bake in more as a nod to Bowles not because he understood the player he was. Now he is off balance. Sure looks yesterday like a guy that was in a situation he didn’ expect to be in.
March 9th, 2024 at 6:15 pm
Buc1987.
He has never Regressed. He was Drafted by the worse team in the league.
The Browns were 0-16 the year they drafted him.
He went 7-7 his first year, and won Rookie of the year. Then 6-10.
In year 3, he went 11-5 and lead the wretched Browns to the playoffs. Went 2 games deep. First time they had been to the payoffs in 2+ decades.
Then , his only screw up. He tried to play with a completely torn labrum in his shoulder. Next time, go on IR Baker
Who cares about his time with the Panthers. Nobody can fix that mess.
He won 3 outta 4 with the Rams.
Won the NFC SOUTH, BEAT THE THE DEFENDING NFC CHAMPS IN THE PLAYOFF..
Hes had 9 different Offensive Coordinators. Coen with be his tenth.
Yet hes made the progress you want to see in a young QB.
Ussually it takes 5 years for a rookie to become an NFL QB. Mayfield is right on schedule.
What can he do, with his arm and accurracy- if he has the same Offensive Coordinator 2-3 years in a row.
Im excited to see
March 9th, 2024 at 6:19 pm
Bucben61 Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 6:10 pm
What playoff winning QBs can the bucs get for $30 m
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Super Bowl winner Russell Wilson, who would basically be free.
So Russell Wilson +$40m … or Baker. Hummm…
March 9th, 2024 at 6:21 pm
Bottom line is that Mayfield and his agent may be asking $40+ mil per year but I don’t see how Licht agrees with that.
The Bucs are not desperate to sign Mayfield and that should be obvious at this point or else they would have used the franchise tag on him.
March 9th, 2024 at 6:22 pm
If we do re-sign Baker I just hope the Bucs have an easy exit after he regresses back to the norm.
I just don’t want the Bucs buying the “fools gold” like Denver and the Giants did.
March 9th, 2024 at 6:24 pm
Evans did call Mayfield elite. He was not blowing hot air. I also trust his judgment regarding QBs.
Go Bucs!!!
March 9th, 2024 at 6:34 pm
Small rod muncher…you make no sense…on one hand you bash the hell out of Baker but on the other you build up Wilson who by all accounts has just put together 3 down years in a row….
March 9th, 2024 at 6:36 pm
I can promise you small rod Muncher that I’ve forgotten more about the NFL than you will ever know…keep spreading the misinformation
March 9th, 2024 at 6:50 pm
I really don’t know why it’s SOOOO hard for people to understand that using the Franchise Tag on Mayfield would kill all the Buccaneers flexibility to sign upgrades in other positions on this current team! I personally wanna see the Bucs move forward with Mayfield on the team BUT only if the team can still improve the roster with other signings!! IF BAKER LEAVES I HOPE ALL THESE NON BUCCANEER BAKER FOLLOWERS GO WITH HIM!! We only have room for Buc fans🚩☠️💯
March 9th, 2024 at 6:57 pm
RBUC Says:
IF BAKER LEAVES I HOPE ALL THESE NON BUCCANEER BAKER FOLLOWERS GO WITH HIM!!
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AMEN!! they should
But the rest of us Baker buc fans will still be here for your reading pleasure 🙂
March 9th, 2024 at 7:03 pm
You BucsButtholes really are ridiculous. 1st you say Baker is awful, but this team finished dead last in rushing. (Baker’s Fault???). No team that is dead last in rushing is worth a damn. The previous year with your God, Brady was the same and that team had a losing record. (Brady’s Fault) Any team with a losing record does not deserve to be in the playoffs, regardless who they are. Brady knew the Bucs stunk and that is why he ran from the team and retired. But Baker came in had a better record than Brady, still no running game, terrible protection, half the time no pass rush and it is Baker’s fault they were barely over 500.
Not all of you are BucsButtholes but you know who you are, the ones that make the most ridiculous comments on here. I don’t care how long you been a Bucs fan, you still need to be called out for you ignorance. We will see the next 96 hours what his value is. I hope “The Tribe”, Licht and GlazerCo. are finally shown the cheap skates that they are. Licht is a good GM, Glazers are terrible owners fleecing the Bucs fans. BTW, they are not the only owners that fleece their fans.
March 9th, 2024 at 7:14 pm
BTW, I think those who say paying Wilson is a pretty good strategy. I don’t know how much is left in his tank, 2 elite coaches sent him packing so that speaks volumes.
Better option is let Door #2 take his step forward and not waste the money even on Wilson. Let Licht live or die by that statement and please no Monday morning GM’ing saying Licht was wrong after the Bucs get drilled.
March 9th, 2024 at 7:15 pm
Tagging Mayfield would’ve prevented him from reaching free agency and the team could have still worked out a long term deal STILL GIVING US FLEXIBILITY.
Stop lying please.
March 9th, 2024 at 7:19 pm
We should never panic over an average at best quarterback
March 9th, 2024 at 7:25 pm
Baker is going to chase the big money contract. Trask is the future of this franchise.
March 9th, 2024 at 7:34 pm
BakerFan Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 7:14 pm
Better option is let Door #2 take his step forward and not waste the money even on Wilson.
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well first, the day dreams about Wilson are off to a bad start. Wilson is already in free agency and meeting with teams – bucs not among them and if Licht isn’t prepared to even spend 30-35 which is not high salary for a starter then Licht screwed up badly because he could have gone door #2 from last year and VERY very likely had a better draft pick – maybe even top 5
March 9th, 2024 at 7:44 pm
Kyle Trask has a career rating of 39.6…thats not a typo…
March 9th, 2024 at 7:44 pm
Bucs could always trade a 112th round pick for Mac Jones.
March 9th, 2024 at 7:46 pm
If the Tag for NFL QBs is roughly $38 million but your cap people have decided the MAX upper management is willing to invest in Mayfield is $33 mil per season Tagging him would make for a uphill negotiations U THINK??? I just think they have a value number on Mayfield and don’t intend to go over that number
March 9th, 2024 at 7:52 pm
Tony Marks,
TDs and yards don’t always tell the full story. Did you watch all the games this season? So many of Baker’s TD passes came late in games when we were behind multiple scores. How many of his 28 TDs came in the first half? Spoiler alert: very few. As I stated in my post above, he had many games with very low yards in the first half when offensive production was critical. There were many games when it was absurd that he wasn’t pulled from games – that’s how bad he played in many games.
He was honestly mediocre last season. Anyone that watched all the games knows this. He certainly had some streaks where he played great, but he had a lot more games when he didn’t do much. He did play phenomenal in that game @ Green Bay. He also played well enough to win that Eagles playoff game. But his overall body of work last season really wasn’t that impressive.
March 9th, 2024 at 7:55 pm
Trask to the future…I watched a ton of bucs games…I didn’t get that…your name says it all…spread the misinformation
March 9th, 2024 at 7:57 pm
In standard yahoo fantasy leagues Baker was the #10 scoring QB…period
March 9th, 2024 at 7:58 pm
Bakers rookie year he set the td record for rookie qb
March 9th, 2024 at 7:59 pm
Baker has won a Heisman trophy
March 9th, 2024 at 8:00 pm
Baker thru 28 tds last year vs 10 picks
March 9th, 2024 at 8:01 pm
2 of our losses during mid season slide was clearly on defense
March 9th, 2024 at 8:08 pm
Not to mention the strongest arm, 75 yard toss, and most accurate, beating the other all Pro qbs in prescion contest arm in all the league. Show me the🤑
March 9th, 2024 at 8:09 pm
And some of the coolest gieco commercials ever
March 9th, 2024 at 8:11 pm
I’m not a Baker boi.
I’m a who the heck you gonna get if he goes elsewhere.
Dude has 2 playoff wins and just threw for 687 yds, 6 TDS and 2 ints
Where ya finding that replacement? Good luck.
March 9th, 2024 at 8:12 pm
And the coolest beard!!!
March 9th, 2024 at 8:14 pm
I say he’s a top 10 QB at worse in this system…pay him as such…next year $55-60m will be norm…lock him up now
March 9th, 2024 at 8:20 pm
@ Bucben61
LOUD NOISES!!!!!
March 9th, 2024 at 8:24 pm
BakerFan Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 7:03 pm
You BucsButtholes really are ridiculous. 1st you say Baker is awful, but this team finished dead last in rushing. (Baker’s Fault???). No team that is dead last in rushing is worth a damn. The previous year with your God, Brady was the same
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It doesn’t matter man . You just don’t get it. The bucs have Mike Evans. We don not need a running game. We don’t even need a QB. Any QB will do. Evans throws the ball to himself. Thats why the Bucs have won TEN Super bowls err I mean Nine ….ummm eight? How about 4? Come on man 3? at last two since the no need for a QB wide receiver has been around?
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March 9th, 2024 at 8:24 pm
I’m going to be like a Baker hater just for a second.
Brady was an average qb…
Saying it doesn’t make it so, just so you know
March 9th, 2024 at 8:27 pm
Marine buc….facts…but funny how you interpret that….hate much
March 9th, 2024 at 8:31 pm
Let’s say the Bucs get all their guys signed INCLUDING BAKER and fill some holes by having a descent draft! WHO BELIEVES THEY ARE CAPABLE OF BEATING THE NINERS?? I see the Bucs as an inferior team to the Lions & Rams without SERIOUS upgrades at the middle of the Oline,Dline pressure and pass rush AND we need a couple TOTALLY different style RBs to what Rachaad White brings to the table in terms of physicality!! Jason Licht stick to what you believe cause honestly EVEN IF Baker walks and we start Trask I think the Bucs are a more dangerous team by taking the draft and money not spent on Baker but used on serious upgrades including those areas! The only thing Baker has on Kyle is experience and I also think Kyle has a higher ceiling than Mayfield!
March 9th, 2024 at 8:35 pm
Tell ’em Capt Tim!!!
March 9th, 2024 at 8:35 pm
Trask To The Future Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 7:52 pm
Tony Marks,
TDs and yards don’t always tell the full story.
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LOL says the guy pushing QBR. then again you might be on to something
2023 Kyle trask QBR 1.2
2022 Kyle Trask QBR 1.7
It just might tell the WHOLE story
🙂 thinking of watching a movie. Action or Drama. I’ve had enough comedy for a month.
March 9th, 2024 at 8:45 pm
They’re not beating the niners anytime soon. They were awarded a 3rd, 4th, 5th and 2 6ths in compensatory draft picks this year with John Lynch as the G.M. They should own the NFC for some time.
March 9th, 2024 at 8:46 pm
@ Buccaneer Bonzai
I suspect Tony Marks means he went to Miami University not University of Miami. That would explain his Baker fetish.
March 9th, 2024 at 8:47 pm
RBUC Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 8:31 pm
The only thing Baker has on Kyle is experience
You tell em Rbuc. When you extrapolate the data from NFL level performance of Trask the stats back your point
9 yards max
30% passing
2.3 average
the dude is going to KILL. Guaranteed
March 9th, 2024 at 8:47 pm
Tony Marks – And to think, Baker is on the verge of losing his job to that guy. Says a lot about what the team really thinks of Mayfield.
I will say this, if Baker doesn’t choke in Detroit in the biggest moment of his life, the Bucs would have wrapped him up and given him that new deal already.
March 9th, 2024 at 8:54 pm
Good grief! The amount of comments on this story and other Baker stories is crazy! Joe, you must be pulling double time trying to stay up with it all and write all your stories from Indy.
I love how “Monday” is when teams can talk to Baker. Baker already knows what every other team is willing to give him and his agent is already using that with Licht. Baker deserves a contract, but not a top tier QB contract. Wins and loses last year and the best team they beat was the Packers. All the other good teams they lost to and they even lost to teams they had no business losing to. Yes they beat Philly, but they packed it in for the year, and they hung with Detroit. This year the Bucs have one heck of a hard schedule. If they give Baker big money, they better be able to get out of it pretty quick with little to no salary cap hit. I do hope Baker is the Bucs QB for years to come and the Bucs finally land their franchise qb they’ve been after for years! I’m just on the fence since he hasn’t done it for multiple years in a row. We deserve that franchise QB and I really hope Baker is it!
March 9th, 2024 at 8:56 pm
Rod Munch Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 8:47 pm
Tony Marks – And to think, Baker is on the verge of losing his job to that guy. Says a lot about what the team really thinks of Mayfield.
Says who he who stretches the pinnochio nose? Only person that could bench baker or even know how close he was to being benched was Bowles and we all saw when Baker had no shoulder, one bad ankle and hobbled like a duck Bowles looked to the bench where Kyle was playing Solitaire and said
no way in hades lolol
As usual you lose on the facts
March 9th, 2024 at 8:59 pm
I’m still waiting on an answer to who is going to be our QB if Baker walks?
With all these stat boys they should have an answer ready to go.
March 9th, 2024 at 9:02 pm
agnosticbuc – Gardner Minshew and Baker Mayfield are the same caliber player. So just go with the cheaper option if the Bucs insist on a middling QB.
March 9th, 2024 at 9:03 pm
Small rod muncher comes out from under his rock to spew more misinformation
March 9th, 2024 at 9:05 pm
I wonder how im gonna feel if they do bring him back at 30 or so….i mean i’ll be happy, he’s got the gamer in him and theres more if you get him a better O line and ground game. And its not like he’s a 40 something on the downside. But this crap has drained me. Just draft Rattler and lets move on.
Good luck Baker wherever you go…it was good to have for a year.
March 9th, 2024 at 9:05 pm
Rod Munch Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 8:47 pm
I will say this, if Baker doesn’t choke in Detroit in the biggest moment of his life,
Your nose grew again and broke your devices screen causing a fire and burning your stash of herbs from Jamaica. Baker’s biggest moment in the NFL was in 2020 not in playoff games that no one ever expected he would get the bucs to.
the entire Detroit game was just gravy.
March 9th, 2024 at 9:06 pm
Joey Bosa is on the trading block.
If the Bucs don’t snag Mayfield and deal for Bosa instead, I’d be 100% OK with that.
March 9th, 2024 at 9:08 pm
NFL QB index final standing for 2023…Baker Mayfield #11 Gardner Minshaw #24…small od muncher likes to spread bold face lies
March 9th, 2024 at 9:11 pm
Mayfield would not have been paid 55 million in 6 years if he wasn’t a good QB would he?
Hmm Sam Darnold has made 55 million too.
All that tells me is So So in the NFL is very profitable. If they weren’t both would not have had to sign the deals they did in 2023.
Mayfield, Minshew, and Darnold would all do well in the right situation and any team knowing they are not a Conference Contender will not pay 30 million a year more than any one of the others.
March 9th, 2024 at 9:13 pm
Baker has did well… numerous teams…. numerous times
March 9th, 2024 at 9:13 pm
Minshew had 15 TDS and 9 picks last year. He totally sucked.
Dude is a career loser.
You freaking joking?
March 9th, 2024 at 9:15 pm
Sam Darnold has a below 60% comp % with 63 TDs and 56 picks
Another total loser.
You freaking joking?
March 9th, 2024 at 9:15 pm
Small rod muncher never tells the truth….total misinformation
March 9th, 2024 at 9:16 pm
He’s a Baker hater…and for no reason
March 9th, 2024 at 9:18 pm
The over under on buc wins this year was 6.5 with most picking the under…Baker way outplayed those predictions
March 9th, 2024 at 9:19 pm
With a historically bad run game
March 9th, 2024 at 9:23 pm
It’s time to find another quarterback or go with Trask one of these two Baker’s not worth the money he wants
March 9th, 2024 at 9:24 pm
There was another QB that the league used to disrespect… Jarrod Goff…has everyone forgot…don’t listen to the total misinformation the traskateers are floating here…it’s pure delusional garbage based on nothing but personal hatred
March 9th, 2024 at 9:25 pm
Rod Munch Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 9:02 pm
agnosticbuc – Gardner Minshew and Baker Mayfield are the same caliber player.
well yeah provided you first minus around 800 yards
and then subtract 13 touchdowns and
and then double the ints per TDs
Its kind a like how Danny Devito was the same caliber size as Arnold Schwarzenegger in the movie Twins. Rod is like the Mike Evans of fibs. Any misinformation in the air he will get it no matter how far fetched and come down with the lie.
March 9th, 2024 at 9:29 pm
NFL’s highest-paid quarterbacks in 2024 (average salary per year):
1. Cincinnati Bengals QB Joe Burrow: $55 million
2. Chargers QB Justin Herbert: $52.5 million
3. Ravens QB Lamar Jackson: $52 million
4. Eagles QB Jalen Hurts: $51 million
5. Broncos QB Russell Wilson: $49 million
6. Cardinals QB Kyler Murray: $46.1 million
7. Browns QB Deshaun Watson: $46 million
8. Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes: $45 million
9. Bills QB Josh Allen: $43 million
10. Rams QB Matthew Stafford: $40 million
10. Cowboys QB Dak Prescott: $40 million
10. Giants QB Daniel Jones: $40 million
March 9th, 2024 at 9:29 pm
25-30m would put baker bottom half of league
March 9th, 2024 at 9:32 pm
agnosticbuc Says:
You freaking joking?
NO he is not. We’ve been down this road before with him and Rod’s explanation was that Minshew was as good because he had 3 running TDs to Bakers one.
so that apparently offset the difference between 28 TDs and 15 and makes up for twice the ints to td ratio.
We;come t ROd’s wodl
March 9th, 2024 at 9:36 pm
Rod, on what planet is 30 TDs to 10 picks is the same caliber?
Add in 6 TDS and 2 picks in the PLAYOFFS
How are they remotely the same caliber?
Please explain. Or you just trolling? Joe’s? What’s this guys issue?
March 9th, 2024 at 9:38 pm
He’s a bold face liar…and he’s constantly proclaiming stats that don’t exist
March 9th, 2024 at 9:46 pm
Hate has nothing to do with it Buchen61! If the Buccaneers pay Mayfield market value and don’t have the resources to markedly UPGRADE other areas of the roster THEY ARE SPINNING THEIR WHEELS, in my view! So Plan B has to have some serious consideration. There are consequences to over paying for Mayfield and Jason Licht would be deglecting his job if he didn’t stay on top of that fact.
March 9th, 2024 at 9:51 pm
True rbuc…I don’t want to overpay either…but listening to some of the dimwits on here demanding that they pay $25m is literally nuts…he had a great year…he’s had great years…he’s won multiple playoff games…he’s accomplished some pretty significant stuff…hard to replace but you make excellent points
March 9th, 2024 at 9:56 pm
To add a more important perspective to Buchen61 on the quarterbacks he listed.
NFL’s career passer rating.
1. Cincinnati Bengals QB Joe Burrow: 98.6
2. Chargers QB Justin Herbert: 95.7
3. Ravens QB Lamar Jackson: 98.0
4. Eagles QB Jalen Hurts: 91.1
5. Broncos QB Russell Wilson: 100.0
6. Cardinals QB Kyler Murray: 92.2
7. Browns QB Deshaun Watson: 100.8
8. Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes: 103.5
9. Bills QB Josh Allen: 92.2
10. Rams QB Matthew Stafford: 91.0
10. Cowboys QB Dak Prescott: 99.9
Only Baker Mayfield and Daniel Jones are under 90 for their careers in passer rating for this group.
Gardner Minshew has a higher passer rating then Baker Mayfield.
Sorry that stat just does not lie.
March 9th, 2024 at 10:03 pm
😴 158.3 75 yards😴 pinpoint accuracy contest😴 0-16 to 11-5😴
😴 “if I come back I want an elite qb😴 Rookie td record
94.6qbr😴 Heisman winner😴 All Pro😴 MVP Pro Bowl😴 first playoff in 20 years😴
😴first playoff road win in 30 years😴 Learned a complex nfl offense in
48 hours and won 😴 tough enough to play on a broken shoulder 😴
Somebody wake me up I’m dreaming again. Oh wait I’m not….
March 9th, 2024 at 10:13 pm
The Baker Mayfield clan is frantic, sign him at all cost to the detriment of the franchise. Mayfield is a decent QB, he’s not franchise worthy and he’s no where near elite. He’s an adequate QB, he’s been around a while folks, he’s bounced around with 3 other franchises that invested in him and let him walk.
Let’s all cool are jets and be realistic about the current situation. Jason Licht seems to want him back but at a price he is actually worth which is nowhere close to what his reported agent is seeking.
In my opinion, Mayfield needs to be surrounded with HOF talent as Brad Johnson was to succeed. Mayfield is not capable of taking matters in his hands and leading a team to victory.
March 9th, 2024 at 10:38 pm
With that said, you don’t bury the franchise on an average QB that plays respectful football. Have to continue to find an elite QB that can lead you to another Super Bowl. I understand easier said then done, don’t wave the white flag with average.
March 9th, 2024 at 10:44 pm
Mike Evans declares Baker “elite” but all the fake analysts on this site know more than Mike. Really hoping that Baker takes the big money ATL is going to shove at him. He gets a better O line and better running game. The Hate Brigade gets to see Baker 2x in 2024. It will be fun hearing from them that “they always liked Baker just didn’t want to pay him $40mill/year.” Like it was their money to begin with. Like they weren’t negative about Baker at any price including the $4mill he was paid in 2023. Telling you all again to watch 2023 Baker Mayfield Highlights on YouTube so you can see the “middling/journeyman” QB that is going to bolt. Congrats to the Haters.
March 9th, 2024 at 10:46 pm
EXACTLY RGA!!!
March 9th, 2024 at 10:54 pm
I doubt Todd Bowles will lose any sleep game planning against Mayfield, as I doubt any defensive coordinator in the NFL would.
March 9th, 2024 at 11:05 pm
Gipper Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 10:44 pm
Mike Evans declares Baker “elite” but all the fake analysts on this site know more than Mike. Really hoping that Baker takes the big money ATL is going to shove at him.
Every one thnks its cousins in atlanta and maybe it will be but theres some serious question the local media is starting ask – if he is worth the price. his age concerns , him returning fom injury and the fact that he wilts in the playoffs
We shall see.
March 9th, 2024 at 11:08 pm
RGA Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 10:54 pm
I doubt Todd Bowles will lose any sleep game planning against Mayfield, as I doubt any defensive coordinator in the NFL would
When defending against trask most defensive coordinators will have time to go to the Bahamas the week before the game.
March 9th, 2024 at 11:13 pm
To all the people running away with Mike Evans calling Baker an elite QB also have to remember he once said that Jameis Winston is “absolutely a franchise QB” and look how that turned out. The guy is now just a back up QB. It’s called being a good teammate and standing up for your guys. He was asked directly do you think he’s elite. What did you expect him to say lol? “No, he’s just an average QB.” I’m glad he said it because again it’s just him being a good teammate.
Everyone besides the Baker bois can clearly see he isn’t an elite QB. Yall are truly pathetic. The guy played ok to good in 3 of the first 4. Went MIA the next 9 games besides besides the two games vs the Texans and Titans. Played great vs the Packers and Jags, and then played like garbage to close the regular season and almost cost the team a playoff spot. He gets credit for the two playoff games he played well in, but they were also against the 31st and 27th pass defenses
March 9th, 2024 at 11:26 pm
Still waiting for a replacement QB option
SO far…Gardner Minshew(total loser) with 15 TDs and 9 picks last year
And Sam Darnold…Buwahahahahahahahaha
March 9th, 2024 at 11:27 pm
WAIT A MINUTE you mean to tell me a 6 game losing streak, back to back anemic performances in playoff clinching games… and a season ending DART right into the other teams chest doesn’t get you instantly resigned to a big money deal? COLOR ME SHOCKED JOEBAKERFAN I just can’t wrap my head around this!
March 9th, 2024 at 11:35 pm
Baker will stay, but y’all don’t deserve him.
March 9th, 2024 at 11:37 pm
Tony Marks, take your psych meds! Troll.
March 9th, 2024 at 11:45 pm
As a lifelong Okie and diehard Marino fan growing up, I never thought much about the Bucs until the Dunn/Alstott years. I was excited to watch Baker defy all odds and lead your team to a playoff victory. If it wasn’t for his critics on this site, I’d be looking forward to him leading y’all to a Super Bowl. But, I’m now seriously hoping he leaves. I’ve never read so much nonsense from so many clueless haters during my 50 years in Earth
March 9th, 2024 at 11:46 pm
We as Bucs fans deserve common sense in running the franchise we all root for.
March 9th, 2024 at 11:54 pm
Dom Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 11:13 pm
To all the people running away with Mike Evans calling Baker an elite QB also have to remember he once said that Jameis Winston is “absolutely a franchise QB”
weeeak Jameis was a qb for a franchise and no Evans didn’t need to have assurancs about trying to get back baker if he didn’t think he was good or give the quotes he gave.
“Me and Baker, we played one season together and I feel like we can build on what we did last year. Hopefully we get him back – he’s a hell of a player. ”
– Mike evans
“But, yeah, me and Baker, we have a really good connection. I think he’s an elite quarterback.
– Mike evans
“I mean, I’m extremely confident,” Evans said Friday when asked about his confidence in Baker’s return. “I’m not 100 percent, but he played really great for us last year,
-MIke Evans
AND he obviously read the haters in this comment section
“”Baker’s a hell of a player and he showed everybody that he’s criminally underrated.”
– Mike evans
Mike Evans for Baker 28 Baker haters 0
you lose
March 9th, 2024 at 11:58 pm
RGA Says:
March 9th, 2024 at 11:46 pm
We as Bucs fans deserve common sense in running the franchise we all root for.
Thank you for officially withdrawing yourselves from decisions related to the franchise I root for.
March 9th, 2024 at 11:58 pm
@ tb bolts – was baker injured?
yes? How did he play in the playoffs?
So tell me his replacement. Thanks.
March 9th, 2024 at 11:58 pm
Every Baker hater should already be choking on their crow feathers, but they are relentless. It makes zero sense. I’m ashamed of T.B. fans, and I’ve never said that about any fan base ever. It’s never even crossed my mind to do so.
March 10th, 2024 at 12:08 am
Tony marks still here trying to control the narrative. Hahah. Are you right yet, Tony?
March 10th, 2024 at 12:11 am
No one hates Baker, Shane. Trying to frame the subject into that negative context doesn’t make it so. Weak sauce.
March 10th, 2024 at 12:48 am
Every fan site has a troll.
March 10th, 2024 at 1:22 am
“agnosticbuc Says:
@ tb bolts – was baker injured? yes?
How did he play in the playoffs?
So tell me his replacement. Thanks.”
Your premise is if Trask was so good, why didn’t he start instead of Baker?
When you have a player with contract incentives on the line, like play off wins, and he says he’s ready to go, you start him and make sure your back up gets extra reps in practice.
It’s called loyalty. Bowles has a good reputation, that’s why he’s slow to bench starters.
^^mtn^^
Since ’76
March 10th, 2024 at 3:20 am
Tony, I’m not seeing you root for the franchise, I see you rooting for Mayfield. If he leaves and plays elsewhere, I suppose you are gone from this board and on to another. Your man crush for Mayfield is disturbing.
March 10th, 2024 at 6:21 am
I am starting to feel Baker has a better long-term probability of success with Minnesota. Man I hope he and his agent are evaluating Minnesota beyond contract value.
1. Baker won’t be dealing with yet another OC in Minnesota if the offense is a success. KOC is the Minnesota HC/OC and not going anywhere.
2. Younger WRs with Justin Jefferson 1000 yards in 10 games and 900 yard rookie first rounder Jordan Addison
3. Better schedule for success
Chicago – 2 wins
Green Bay – 1 win, 1 loss
Detroit – 0 win, 2 losses
Arizona – 1 win
Indianapolis – 1 win
Houston – 0 win, 1 loss
SF – 0 win, 1 loss
Atlanta – 1 win
NYJ – 1 win
NYG – 1 win
Tennessee – 1 win
Seattle – 1 win
LA Rams – 0 win, 1 loss
Jacksonville – 1 win
That’s 11 wins to 6 loses conservatively.
I think the Bucs have one of the Top 5 toughest schedules next year. Tampa winning 11 games next year is wishful. With games against Eagles, SF, Baltimore, Dallas, KC and Detroit, I got us winning 10 games assuming our only loss is once to Saints and sweeping Atlanta and Panthers in NFC South. And beating all the AFC West teams except KC.
Punishment for being NFC South champs we get Ravens, SF and Detroit as division rank alignment games. Ouch. Minnesota gets Jets, Giants and Falcons as their division rank alignment games.
March 10th, 2024 at 6:34 am
I just love how the Baker Bois like to go to ME saying Baker is “Elite”. He actually said “I think he’s elite”. Much like he said JW was definitely a franchise QB…….. Think about that for a minute.
March 10th, 2024 at 6:55 am
They may not want Bakefield
March 10th, 2024 at 6:56 am
Hoping Baker stays with us. He is our guy too. Other teams are looking at him, so they see and like what we saw and like.
A lot of the money negotiations may have to do with life and financial problems that happened in the past for Baker. I think his family had financial difficulties in his senior year and wasn’t there just an incident about Baker’s missing money at his father’s company in 2023? That could be some of the reasons for him looking at what is out there and more millions. Cannot fault him for any of it. Plus he and his wife are having their first child. They have many decisions to make for their own security too.
March 10th, 2024 at 8:00 am
“weeeak Jameis was a qb for a franchise”
So that means he’s a franchise QB like Mike Evans said he was lol? I guess Mike Glennon and Ryan Fitzpatrick were Franchise QB’s too since they were once QB’s on the team. Do you even know what Franchise QB means? I swear you have some of the most moronic post here. Claiming to be a Bucs fan but would root for a division rival the two times a year they play us if your boyfriend leaves to play with them. You’re a clown
March 10th, 2024 at 8:10 am
Undoubtedly, some of Baker Mayfield’s rapid supporters on this site are former Dallas Cowboys fans. With their team mired in the caldron wait till next year, they have gone to following players instead of teams. With blinders, they forget that the NFL is a business and business is business and not personal. As for Baker, like all of us our success or failure is based on choices. Stay or leave, it is his choice and time will tell whether it was correct or not.
March 10th, 2024 at 9:10 am
@K2
Baker started the season 3/11 for 12 yards so I guess we should have benched him at that point using their logic lol. The way they throw Trask’s stats are so dishonest. 9 of his 10 pass attempts he was throwing to backups against a starting defense. I’m not even a big Trask supporter, but for anyone to say they know with certainty what Trask is without him actually have any opportunities with the starters in a game is delusional. No one knows what Trask is at this point
March 10th, 2024 at 10:42 am
RGA Says:
March 10th, 2024 at 3:20 am
Tony, I’m not seeing you root for the franchise, I see you rooting for Mayfield. If he leaves and plays elsewhere, I suppose you are gone from this board
I’ll be right here (rooting for the bucs to over come Trask). keep dreaming. YOu all are silly on EVERYTHING. Theres a whole set of people in this world that the one way to make them stay is to tell them to get out
Guess whether I am in that group.
March 10th, 2024 at 11:07 am
K2 Says:
March 10th, 2024 at 8:36 am
the statistics of a quarterback who has played with only the starters (Mayfield). These Baker Boys have no – zero, zip, nothing – understanding of statistics.
or door 2 – you are so intellectually vacant that you don’t understand that citing those stats points out the body of evidence that trask will be a great player in the NFl is slim and none and trying to compare college to the NFL is the tactic of nitwits.
Ding ding ding Door 2 it is.
March 10th, 2024 at 12:57 pm
Actually Dom what’s pathetic is you and the haters. Anyone with 2 brain cells can see when a qb has been on the worst teams in the NFL since winning the hesiman and graduating college and he STILL has all kinds of records and accomplishments in spite of those terrible teams and the first decent team he comes to is suppose to win 4 games and they go within 1 game of the superbowl. Again you are pathetic if you can’t see that. Anyone knows there is more to being a qb than statistics. There have been qb that won superbowls with a lot worse stats than Baker. It’s the intangibles that make a great qb along with a certain amount of skill. Baker has both and you haters are either 1 celled critters or you are Texas or Ohio State fans that he dismantled in colleges because he’s a middling qb. Lmao againn
March 10th, 2024 at 1:40 pm
I would go as far to say on these 5 catagories alone makes a qb elite. 1-beat all the other pro bowl qbs in prescion passing contest, 2-furthest pass in nfl history, 3-first decent team you’re on has a QBR of 94.6, 4- took a cellar dwelling team from 0-16 to 11-5 on your 3rd season in the NFL and 5-any team you’ve been on has went to the playoffs no matter how bad they were. Yeah I would say very few if ANY qb can claim all 5 of those qb qualities. These 5 prove you have an ELITE ARM, it proves you have elite skills and finally you have the intangibles to win games regardless of how terrible a team you’re on. Yeah ELITE, without a doubt very elite lol
March 10th, 2024 at 1:47 pm
Terry Bradshaw had a qbr of 70. How many superbowls did he win? Umm 4. Went to 4 won 4. Jim Kelly went to 4 with an 84 qbr. So I’m quite sure 94.6 can take you there.
March 10th, 2024 at 1:50 pm
The list is long, so??
March 10th, 2024 at 1:59 pm
Still waiting for replacement QBs that aren’t bargain bin lifetime losers.
So? Come on…who is going to replace Baker and take us to the playoffs?
March 10th, 2024 at 2:01 pm
Now it’s just a matter of getting all the right pieces together around Baker and TB will be in a superbowl.
March 10th, 2024 at 3:13 pm
Capt Tim did you really try and suggest that Winfield is part of the problem on the defense?.. then used the yards ranking to make your case?!?!? Lol I’ve heard it all now
Interesting using yards rankings.. I don’t respect stat watchers
Especially when you choose to ignore the scoring rankings cause it helps your case to ignore those numbers.
I focus on impact… the 9 points the Bucs scored would not have been enough if not for Winfields IMPACT… that man keeps points off the board… to the tune of the 6th ranked scoring defense.. and it’s even better in the Redzone.. and don’t for a second think he doesn’t impact the run defense as well
Now the Bakerbois are gonna argue that Winfield is overrated…
Well the Bucs FO feels Mike Evans and Winfield are way more important to the Bucs.. hence Baker not being signed… cause they don’t think he’s worth his asking price
Don’t be mad at me… the Bucs have made that clear by their actions and spending so far
March 10th, 2024 at 3:23 pm
Bryce Young is a great qb who won the Heisman and a national championship and was dumped on a 7-10 team and took them to 2-15. A qb can ruin his career if he spends too many years with a bad organization-injuries, mind games and confidence issues. Cleveland did Baker a favor. Bad organizations tend to stay bad organizations. If TB can get the supporting cast assembled watch them sail right into a superbowl.
March 10th, 2024 at 3:25 pm
@Daveyboy
Are you really comparing stats to players playing today to players that played in the 70s, 80s, and 90s lol? The average QB rating in those eras were significantly lower than today because defenses could actually play defense.
Second those were literally the facts on Mayfield’s season. He started hot, went missing for the vast majority of the games between week 6 and week 14, had a couple great games vs the Packers and Jags, then choked with the playoffs on the line and got bailed out by AW Jr vs the Panthers. He had a couple of good post season games but they were against some of the worst pass defenses in the league. Tell me where I’m wrong on that.
This was arguably Baker’s best season as a pro and even at that he was just average. If he regresses in any way its going to be a bad contract to whoever signs him. Which is highly likely because in his 6 years in the NFL he has yet to string together two consecutive seasons of at least average QB play. The defense deserves a lot more credit for this season than the offense. The defense tied for 6th in PPG while the offense was 20th. We also got lucky in being in a bad NFC South and versing a reeling Eagles team in the wildcard.
The Bucs run game was awful but Baker had one of the best WR duos in the league, one of the best pass protecting OLine’s in the league, and a top 6 defense from a points perspective. All that to go just a game above .500 and two of those wins were against the worst team in the NFL that only won two games lol. A lot of starting caliber QB’s could have done what Mayfield did or more.
Also, I went to UCF by the way. I had no preconceived biases against Baker and actually like him as a person and a leader. Your right in that he has great intangibles. His on the field ability however is average
March 10th, 2024 at 5:17 pm
700 yards 6 TDs and 2 picks IN THE PLAYOFFS is average?
Who are yopu people trying to convince that he’s not worth X amount?
Yourselves? It’s not even your money. We have a long list of QBs that have left.
I fear we will be adding another one.
March 10th, 2024 at 5:34 pm
Wow Dom believe what you want. Obviously you think it’s dark at high noon
March 10th, 2024 at 5:36 pm
Time will tell buddy, time will tell
March 10th, 2024 at 5:37 pm
Texas fan 4 sure
March 10th, 2024 at 5:38 pm
Just draft Spencer Rattler….its over! Bye!
March 10th, 2024 at 5:44 pm
Brett Favre at qbr of 86 is another era?? He went to 3 superbowls. Baker 88 career on the worst team possible. Eli Manning another Era at 82 and 2 bowls?? Yeah I’m sure Baker will do it
March 10th, 2024 at 5:45 pm
Matthew Stafford qbr of 82.7 another era??
March 10th, 2024 at 5:46 pm
Like I said the list is long
March 10th, 2024 at 6:11 pm
3 year 100mil great let’s get to work!!!