“Technique” The Issue For Bucs Veteran Corners

November 22nd, 2023

Seasoned Bucs fans have seen the struggles of Tampa Bay’s veteran cornerbacks, the Super Bowl duo of Carlton Davis and Jamel Dean.

So what’s been the problem?

Todd Bowles was asked that question in a much nicer way on the Buccaneers Radio Network this week and had a simple answer: “technique.”

Specifically, Bowles was asked to name “the biggest thing that’s not working well for them.”

He didn’t offer details on Davis, but he did note that Dean failed to get a hand on 49ers receiver Brandon Aiyuk on his deep touchdown Sunday. Bowles also said Dean turned the wrong way in his drop.

Joe’s not sure why technique is an issue for two big-money cornerbacks that have been in the same defense since 2019 with top-shelf coaches. Strange.

Neither Davis nor Dean has an interception this season.

Joe has hope those guys can turn their seasons around, but now each is injured, so that hope is fading fast.

26 Responses to ““Technique” The Issue For Bucs Veteran Corners”

  1. Dave Pear Says:

    Great coaching Todd. These are your two alleged lockdown corners. They’re supposed to be oress man experts but you stuck them in the zone defenses where they don’t know their assignments. Then they are told to play press man and don’t press. Then use poor technique.

    Either they’re stupid or poorly coached.

    Todd, given your record as a head coach and watching you barreling to a 5th consecutive losing season, I’m betting it’s the latter.

  2. I remember 21 Says:

    I’m not saying their technique is perfect, but to everyone except bowles, scheme is the large majority of the issue. And while Joe very rightly brings up the question of why technique would be an issue for these guys in this setting, part of me wonders if their technique is sloppy because they are disheartened & disinterested in playing the scheme they’re being asked to play. Still not an excuse when ur being paid $15M, but human nature is human nature. And maybe if there are so many “busts” and such a “lack of communication,” the defense needs to be simplified. Obviously not something any coach wants to do, call his baby ugly, but if our 2 highly paid man CBs can be expected to play zone all the time, I don’t think it’s beyond the pail to expect bowles to make some changes/ sacrifices as well. But we all know that’s not gonna happen. And that’s why… #FIREbowlesNOW


    no disagreement with Dave Pear’s assessment !!

  4. Larry Says:

    it all boils down to the head coach! I believe Todd Bowles has proven he is a very good asst. coach but just isn’t a good head coach. He is not alone. The Bucs need a dynamic head coach. They are out there. The Texans have one. Look what they did with just a rookie QB. Time for Jas Light to earn his money. Todd Bowles will never be a great head coach.

  5. Boss Says:

    Season after season of excuses. Man I long for the days when they would just flat out say we sucked.

    Truth is I bet the players would love it if the coach held himself accountable, then him saying they sucked might hold some weight.

    We have JPP as a coach.

    They wacko spinning for genocide joe that is.

  6. Larry Says:

    The head coach is the CEO of the the team. Look what Steve Jobs did for Apple. Great head coach = Great players = team. Case closed!!!

  7. realistic-optimistic Says:

    I have issues with Bowles’ technique. But that’s a dead horse.

  8. Cover deuce Says:

    Jim Harbaugh on line 1 for you Mr. Licht.

  9. sasquatch Says:

    I’d be happy to move on from both next year, even with the dead money. For what they’re paid, we ought to be getting one of the better corner combos in the league. What we’re getting is one of the worst pass defenses in the league. Pathetic.

  10. Larry Says:

    Sorry. Great coach = Great players = Great team. Nuff said!!!

  11. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Technique, fundamentals, scheme, not on the same page….come on, Todd….just shoot straight with us…..they’re playing like $hit…

  12. DungyDance Says:

    If they’re both playing zone half the time then they will not be getting INT’s. Why we play so much zone was hinted at a week or two ago, when Bowles alluded to players (not named) being unable to play press/man. Regardless, no excuses for these two to not be ore effective at whatever scheme is called. Veterans making tons are expected to do that. As Belichick would say, “Do your job!”

  13. Pelsbuc61 Says:

    Stupid, poorly coached, overpaid and heartless. They sure are wrecking sh#t alright! These guys got paid and mailed it in and when they’re getting critiqued they come up “injured”. The total opposite of Ronde Barber. This should be a clear warning against signing D. White. I don’t care to see any of these idiots in a Bucs uniform.

  14. MoeB Says:

    Excuses is for losers. They made bad decisions on players and paying for it. Not technique but players style and old school football. Making impact plays is essential this is not the 1970s. Players are more athletic and uses alternative solutions.

  15. HC Grover Says:

    Oh good the the problem is solved.

  16. unbelievable Says:

    A defensive head coach, calling the same defensive scheme for the last 5 years straight… has two different 20+ million CBs who are “strugging with their technique”????

    I’m sorry, but what in the actual F is that?

    Is there a more damn indictment on Bowles than this? Honestly?

  17. Bucsfanman Says:

    “Technique”?! Well, for starters sure. How about design? I’ve never seen a DB give up a 10 yard cushion for any other reason other than to not be beat. The problem is, not only are Dean and Davis STILL getting beat with said cushion, the team is blitzing. What am I saying?! If we’re going to blitz, wouldn’t it make more sense to press at the LOS to disrupt the route? By giving 10 yards, WRs are free to get open and QBs are finding them, rendering the pass-rush useless. Press and the WR gets disrupted, the timing is off and the blitz gets home.
    It seriously goes to coaching EITHER way.
    Football is NOT complicated.

  18. Marine Buc Says:

    Our CBs need to be playing in the proper positions.

    – Dean seems more like a zone coverage CB. He got smoked in SF in man cov
    – Davis needs to move to NCB he isn’t physical enough for a CB1
    – McCollum should be given a chance to be the CB1

    Just my $.02

  19. Jeremy Says:

    Looking like the BUCS of old these days. We need to stay in those ugly ass creamsicle jerseys. They always bring us bad luck the last few years. Highly paid fuk ups is what we have in the back field

  20. OlBoy Says:

    Pinky out!!
    -vague SpongeBob SquarePants reference.

  21. Bojim Says:

    No sht?

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  23. Bojim Says:

    Nine games?

  24. garro Says:

    Who was the guy coaching that technique one on one in practice this preseason? His expertise?

    Gotta come with better excuses coach.

    Go Bucs!

  25. Jmarkbuc Says:

    Sucking is their problem.

    They y damn sure know how to cash a check though.

  26. 76 bucsfan46 Says:

    So your saying we have a couple of over paid guys at corner who after all these years can’t remember their technique.