A New Level For Pocket Crusher Vita Vea

October 2nd, 2023

Manbeast Vita Vea wreaked havoc on the Saints.

More Vita Vea is a great thing. Joe’s been screaming about that for years.

Let the man play! He’s been getting more snaps this year and the results have been fantastic.

Heck, if Bucs coaches were limiting Vea’s snaps previously because they didn’t think he had the stamina, then Joe would understand. But, dammit, Joe thought the team should have challenged Vea to raise his fitness level to play one or two more series per game. Vea’s defensive tackle peers pull it off, even legendary monsters at nose tackle like Haloti Ngata and Vince Wilfork played a bigger percentage of their team’s snaps in their primes than Vea.

Against the slimy Saints yesterday, Vea played 44 snaps, a big number for him. For perspective, he had never logged that many snaps in a postseason game.

Vea sacked quarterback Derek Carr twice, increasing his season sacks total to 3 1/2. Vea led the Bucs with 6 1/2 sacks last season. He’s on a wild pace to rack up 14 1/2 sacks in 2023.

Todd Bowles explained a fresh difference in Vea’s game.

“I think he’s started using his hands more. He’s not trying to go side-to-side; he’s trying to power, make one move and go. And he’s very powerful once he starts using his hands.” Bowles said.

As Joe wrote and said many times all summer, the national pundits were wrong about the 2023 Bucs because the team has so many playmakers. There’s one or more at every level of the defense, and a couple of elite studs on offense.

Now throw in a hot kicker and an efficient and smart quarterback, and the Bucs are a highly dangerous team.

Especially dangerous when Vea is hunting QBs.

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41 Responses to “A New Level For Pocket Crusher Vita Vea”

  1. bucsfaninchina Says:

    He + Kancey have the ability to be the best pass rush DT duo in the league.

  2. Cobraboy Says:

    Using hands may be how he tweaked the pec.

  3. SteveK Says:

    It’s like watching the kool-aid man break through the brick wall like it’s nothing.

    Oh yeah!!!!

    I love watching the amazing athletic prowess of Vita Vea. What a terrifying opponent on so many levels.

    I agree Joe, let the big dog eat. He’s unstoppable and immovable. Love this dude as the foundation of our defensive trenches.

  4. Boss Says:

    sack totals don’t lie…and he is playing more…

    my eyes must have decieved me because I thought he had dropped of a little.

    I do like it when the other DT’s get to eat….like seeing diff names get all up in the oppositons face.

    waiting patiently for kancey

    why so long for a calf..any rumors?

  5. Defense Rules Says:

    Great photo Joe. Looks like both Vea and Shaq are being held on that play.

  6. Breadwinnerbob Says:

    Just wait for that 1st round pick to get healthy also more of Yaya plz he’s a dog like izen let em play

  7. Craig Says:

    The defense isn’t even the whole of the defense yet, as seen last week against the Eagles.

    They will heal up a little more over this bye week and the younger players will grow a little more into their roles. By season end, barring injuries, this will be a very dangerous defense.

    It is great to see Vea being able to make more impact in it. If Kancey pans out it will also allow more outside action and Shaq and Hall look ready for it.

    JTS I am not so sure of.

  8. Duane in Sanford Says:

    Maybe its a weather thing with the big guy. Makes sense that he gets more snaps in a dome. Its uncanny how he pushes the pocket, and I think an argument can be made that he is held on every snap.

  9. Hodad Says:

    The Saints were holding every single play. The refs couldn’t throw a flag every play so they got away with a whole lot of holding yesterday. Refs were protecting Carr yesterday big time.

  10. NcKe Says:

    I like the tandem of Vita, Kancey and Gaines.

  11. Hodad Says:

    Look at the picture lol, both Shaq, and Vea being held.

  12. gofortheface30 Says:

    Bucsfaninchina -I think thats why so many of us are beyond annoyed with this “precautionary holdout.” I’ve never been so excited for a bye week in my life. Praying we have Kancey, Dennis, Evans and Dean back. Vea taking up space, getting double teamed while our 4.6 under tackle is one on one completely changes our defense. Hopefully White’s groin heals up too so we get that side line to sideline 4.5 speed. Defense could be scary. It stands to reason that Kancey could be back after the ye which may explain why the Bucs havent put him on IR.

  13. BillyBucco Says:

    That is definitely the Holding they called in the game.
    Refs missed several others as well

  14. Defense Rules Says:

    One quarter of the way into the season, and there are only 2 undefeated teams left (Philly & San Fran). Quite a few 3-1 teams though (Bills, Dolphins, Ravens, Chiefs, Cowboys, Lions & Bucs). Of those 8 other top-tier teams, Bucs get to play 5 of them this year. Didn’t folks say months ago that we had an easy schedule this year?

  15. stpetebucfan Says:

    Vita Vea played in 13 games his rookie year…a full season in year two and then only FIVE games in his 3rd year.

    He’s been on a fairly tightly managed snap count as Joe pointed out.

    Is there anybody out there who believes he was not worth a first round pick?
    Really? Because there was a lot of carping after those first 3 seasons!

    I point this out for imbeciles who have ALREADY soured on Calijah Kancey after only four games in the schedule. The 11 plays he was able to get in he showed amazing speed and when he gets healthy perhaps all the losers who make up sorry nicknames because he got INJURED will finally quiet…just like they have for Vita!

  16. BillyBucco Says:

    Also Go for the Face doesn’t White run a 4.3?
    Way better than 4.5 unless you are thinking Lavonte David?
    If his groin wasn’t hurt, he takes that pick against the Eagles to the HOUSE.

  17. SB~LV Says:

    Yes…. The only thing that has changed is that he sees the game now!

  18. Buc4evr Says:

    Vea was being held a lot and I think it was only called once? Hall also played a good game. I really want to see Kancey lining up next to Vita against Detroit.

  19. gotbbucs Says:

    Should be terrifying when Kancey gets in there and gets his feet under him.

  20. Colonel Angus Says:

    And he gets held damn near every play.

  21. fred Says:

    Haloti Ngata and Vince Wilfork didn’t play in Tampa HEAT! those 2 played up north big difference when you’re playing that big

  22. ChiBuc Says:

    Glad he found his hands, also good for shedding/avoiding those offensive linemen holding on and wearing you down. Vea is truly professional. He seems to always be improving (leadership, power, hands, stamina….)

  23. Leighroy Says:

    There was a closeup shot of VV yesterday you could see his right hand had pinky and ring fingers taped together and bloody, w plenty of blood on his jersey and pants. Dude is a beast and likely gutted through a hand injury that clearly stopped no one.

  24. Boss Says:

    pffft, I play through those daily. It’s a bi*ch on a keyboard!

  25. BucU Says:

    Love Vita. Critical to our success. As for our newest porcelain doll Callijah Kancey let’s not rush the poor little baby’s 2 month and counting calf strain.
    Until proven otherwise he’s a bum. As is his Pitt buddy. Delicate flowers those 2.

  26. HC Grover Says:

    Game over rtime for the LIONS hey we won OK what about next SUnday?

  27. orlbucfan Says:

    That’s holding in that picture, but so what? The Eagles juggernaut was doing plenty of it too, on both sides of the ball, but they still were the better team. JTS gets reamed on here, but I’ve listened/seen him line up close to VV. All hell breaks loose and JTS gets a sack or disrupts the backfield. I would love for Bowles to figure out a play where Kancey and JTS line up with VV at the same time. Not sure it’s possible though.

  28. Rod Munch Says:

    I hope Kancey is good to go after the bye, that would be huge to get him back if he’s healthy. He only played 11 snaps this year, but man did he leap off the screen in those 11 snaps when you watch it from ALL22. He is so fast and explosive off the line, he’s going to be a real problem for offenses, in particular when paired with Vita.

    And let’s face facts – the Bucs weren’t getting any sort of pass rush yesterday. Carr held the ball forever before the pressure ever got to him for most of the day. I’m no fan of the vastly overrated Carr, but he clearly wasn’t healthy, and was even more of a Checkdown Charlie than he normally is.

  29. J Ghotier Says:

    How come Trey Palmer got called for holding on White’s long run (Palmer had his hands inside and bowled him over, YET this isn’t holding on Vita pictured above. It’s not always about accuracy, but just consistency in calls and consistency calling it both ways for both teams playing.

    We seem to get held a lot in the trenches and it’s never really called, yet we get ticky-tacky calls like Trey Palmer and the Izien hold/PI near the goal line.

  30. teacherman777 Says:

    Vita used to play with no gloves.

    Bad move bro.

    He’s having hand issues now because he refused to wear gloves his first few years.

  31. JimBobBuc Says:

    I definitely noticed the extra snaps Vita took. He’s playing well and there’s not a huge drop off when Gaines comes in. The Aints tackles held their own against our OLBs but their interior struggled in pass pro. They also did well in pass pro vs our blitzes. It seems they have figured out our blitz packages.

  32. Gofortheface30 Says:

    Billy – yes he was timed at 4.38 or whatever it was pre draft but frankly he hasn’t played anywhere NEAR that fast since the 2020 playoffs. 40 times in a vacuum is very misleading anyway, athletes spend months specifically training for it, training on technique and the first 10 yards to move up the draft boards. Don’t get me wrong he’s fast for his size when healthy but him running a 4.3 and JaMarr chase for example running a 4.3 isn’t the same thing. He ain’t catching Ja’Marr in any kind of foot race. Anyway doesn’t matter, to your point about the INT return (and something I also mentioned a handful of times) a healthy Devin white takes on the stupid quarterback, trucks him and sprints to the house

  33. Lakeland Steve Says:

    Did I see someone mention Kancey. Who’s that? That’s right our number one draft pick who played a couple of series in the first game. Until he gets on the field and be dominant week after week I don’t think we know what we really have in Kancey. Like and old coach used to say, in the NFL, the best ability is availability.

  34. Mike Johnson Says:

    You can tell Vita is still not 100 or even 90 yet with that Pec injury. I was watching the NFL ticket Sunday and they did a closeup a couple times where he was grimacing.So this off week will definitely do him some good. Dude is just beastly in the middle.

  35. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Devin White runs a 4.42

  36. Jarrett Says:

    Vea has been a great first round pick for the Bucs

    Only time Jason Litch completely wiffed was Vernon Hargraves

    It’s a Bucs life

  37. Tony Says:

    Maybe we can bring Sapp back & put him with Vita.😀

  38. Glass Half Full Guy Says:

    Pretty sure old man (32 y.o.) Fletcher Cox leads the Eagles d-linemen in % of snaps played, but as others mentioned not in the Tampa heat and humidity.

    According to the NFL there are roughly 125 offensive plays per game.. All things being equal, call it 62 plays for the defense on each team to be on the field.

    (Averages per NFL game)
    100% = 62 snaps
    90% = 56 snaps
    80% = 50 snaps
    70% = 43 snaps
    60% = 37 snaps
    50% = 31 snaps

    Thru 4 games, Logan Hall has the most snaps at 164 (62.6%) for our D-linemen. Vea is second with 159 snaps (60.69%). Shaq has 156 snaps (59.54%). Green and Gaines are both at 112 snaps each (42.75%). Gholston has played 68 snaps (25.95%)

    I think that because Vita Vea is such an impactful guy when he’s out there that it just “seems like” he gets more rest than he does in reality. For him to jump from 60% (where he is now) to 70% would only take 6 (6.2) more snaps per game.

    I’d love to see the big fella out there 100% of the time like LVD and DWhite (both at 98% btw) but I think the coaches have been managing the snap count pretty consistently through these first 4 games.

  39. 1#bucsfan Says:

    Vea is a beast. So glad we drafted him. Really want to see kancey get out there and play with him and Shaq. Deff could be lethal but he’s gotta get on the field 1st. I also gotta remind myself that Dlinemqn don’t make that much of an impacted their 1st year. So if kancey doesn’t wreck havoc when he comes back then it’s not the end of the world but dude flashes big time in the few snaps in his very 1st nfl game so maybe he does ?

  40. adam from ny Says:

    yeah imagine sapp and vita playing together…….whoa

    vita will break his 6.5 sacks this year…he might even get double digits…

    like 10-11……….that would be something

  41. Bring back the lawn chairs Says:

    If double V gets 11 plus sacks this year, the Bucs will be eating a bunch of W’s that’s for sure! As for kancey, that’s a big unknown, but rumors are flying that he’s a ‘bad man’ on the football field. I hope them thar flying rumors are spot on. Can you imagine?