Where’s Logan Hall?
August 20th, 2023
Logan Hall at the Bucs’ underwear football practice on Thursday.
With veteran defensive tackle Vita Vea resting tonight and last week, along with injured first-round-pick rookie Calijah Kancey, Joe was eager to see what Logan Hall would deliver in their absences during the first two preseason games.
To date, Hall hasn’t landed in a box score and isn’t looking like a No. 33 overall pick (2022) should against preseason competition.
Interestingly, head coach/defensive guru Todd Bowles has talked openly about fierce competition at the outside linebacker/edge rusher position. Hall, once upon a time, was considered a potential edge player but that seems to be old news.
The Bucs drafted Kancey and added veteran free agent Greg Gaines, who rested with starters in Preseason Game 1 but played a little tonight against the Jets. Those weren’t great signs for Hall, and then the Bucs brought back veteran DT Will Gholston as training camp began.
As Joe talked about on the Ira Kaufman Podcast many weeks ago, perhaps Gholston was brought in because of concerns about Hall.
Through two preseason games, Joe can’t shake that thought.
August 20th, 2023 at 12:34 am
Hall was a reach
August 20th, 2023 at 12:36 am
Where’s Logan Hall?
That’s an easy question to answer. He’s usually on the ground
August 20th, 2023 at 12:37 am
Bust. What were they seeing when they scouted this bum cause all he has shown that he should’ve been an undrafted
August 20th, 2023 at 12:43 am
He’s not good haven’t saw one thing out of him. If he’s starting over gholston it’s just because he’s a 2nd round pick. Hell #91 has been way more noticeable and productive then hall
August 20th, 2023 at 12:45 am
I’d say cut him
August 20th, 2023 at 12:47 am
Logan Hall shouldn’t even be on this team anymore. We can get an undrafted DT who’s younger and has a higher motor for way cheaper
August 20th, 2023 at 12:50 am
Some guys just dont transition well to the NFL. He looked good in college, long arms to get to the QB, seemed to have power. Maybe he got lazy, I dont know. Cant pick a winner every time.
August 20th, 2023 at 12:51 am
We were all told Hall was going to make the jump this year.
Lets be a little more patient with him.
August 20th, 2023 at 12:56 am
Maybe he’s a 4-3 guy because he definitely gets manhandled rep after rep in this defense
August 20th, 2023 at 12:59 am
Did he play tonight?
O BTW, did you guys hear Bowles Flat Out Lie about the QB competition? Bowles SAID…
That o yeah, Baker was going in BUT after “John got hurt”, and since Kyle was ALREADY WARM WE JUST PUT HIM BACK IN…… Let that sink in for just a second..
If Baker was going in, in the first place, THEN WHY WAS “JOHN” In Infront of Baker??????? Because IF BAKER WAS GOING TO PLAY, HE CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE GONE IN INFRONT OF “JOHN”! NOT AFTER AS IN THE CLEAN UP CREW!¡!!
A BOLD FACE LIE FROM YOUR HEAD COACH CAUGHT ON CAMERA! CONGRATULATIONS AND WHAT A GIFT TOAD BOWLES TRULY IS 👏 🎁
LIER!!!!
August 20th, 2023 at 2:04 am
We suck at drafting dline. Only decent one was vea so far. Hopefully someone from this year’s class pans out. Jts and hall both seem like major duds.
August 20th, 2023 at 2:27 am
Sounds like you’re quite passionate about Bowles being a liar. I’ll have to see what ALL THE FUSS IS ABOUT.
August 20th, 2023 at 2:35 am
Wow, Hall got bullied so bad it was embarrassing! He was abused and confused out there. He looks like a high school boy out there. Unfortunately once again I have to say I told ya so! I was screaming at the TV on draft night for them to NOT draft him but they were trying to fill a specific need and reached terribly to draft him. Jason….lesson learned I hope.
August 20th, 2023 at 2:42 am
Logan Hall’s greatest accomplishment was ending the career of our pro bowl center.
Congratulations Licht
August 20th, 2023 at 3:17 am
“The Bucs drafted Kancey and added veteran free agent Greg Gaines, who rested with starters in Preseason Game 1 but played a little tonight against the Jets.”
I’m pretty sure I saw Gaines out there in the 4th quarter tonight. It stuck out since you wouldn’t expect to see him still in the game. I went and double checked they didn’t have some other white guy named Gaines, and nope, it was him.
August 20th, 2023 at 4:25 am
Funny, we use to have the exact same conversation about William Gholston back in the day.
Give the kids time to develop.
August 20th, 2023 at 4:54 am
He is invisible. They have been trying to give him Wills job for two years and he can’t handle it
Cut bait already
August 20th, 2023 at 5:40 am
Voice of Truth, I get the impatience.
We all want the Bucs to be at their best, every single game. But think about Gholston. The guy faced his fair share of doubters, and look where he ended up. Hall’s got potential; he just needs to dig deep and find it. We’ve seen players turn it around before. Let’s not throw in the towel just yet.
We’re all in this together. Go Bucs!🏈
August 20th, 2023 at 6:34 am
I never liked this pick from day 1 and thought he would be a bust.
I still hope I’m wrong and the light somehow comes on for him but i just don’t see that fire in him to make a play the way you can see it already in Kancey. Thank god they brought Gholston back to mitigate the lackadaisical play of Hall.
August 20th, 2023 at 7:12 am
Good news is Kancey looked chipper moving around on the sideline. Big UCF fan watched Hall, and Houston play the Knights. Hall always stood out, looked like a decent prospect. Just hasn’t looked the same in the NFL. The draft truely can be a crap shoot. Problem is, he was over drafted, now what do you do with him?
August 20th, 2023 at 7:32 am
He is a player without an NFL position. He lacks functional strength to hold up inside and is too rigid and slow twitchy for the outside.
August 20th, 2023 at 7:36 am
Can Hall really be looking that bad? How many snaps?
I noticed he and Gaines in the game but not showing up on the stat sheet against 2s and 3s?
I really don’t know how he can’t be better than last year after adding weight and hopefully strength.
Go Bucs!
August 20th, 2023 at 7:42 am
Hall is MR. invisible.
At least Gholston makes plays against 1st, 2nd or 3rd stringers.
August 20th, 2023 at 8:04 am
Hall and JTS both need to be gone.
August 20th, 2023 at 8:05 am
The Bucs held the Jets to a couple field goals and an attempt at a third. Hall couldn’t have been that bad. Two All Pros up front is enough.
August 20th, 2023 at 8:34 am
Anyone saying “cut him” or “get rid of him” is not considering that these 1st and 2nd rd picks have all or most of their 4 year contracts guaranteed.
August 20th, 2023 at 8:34 am
I had hopes for Hall but he is looking more and more like a bust to me.
Peyton Turner and Logan Hall both went to Houston and both drafted about the same time, 1 year apart.
At least New Orleans made the mistake the year before us.
August 20th, 2023 at 8:40 am
Pickgrin Says:
August 20th, 2023 at 8:34 am
Anyone saying “cut him” or “get rid of him” is not considering that these 1st and 2nd rd picks have all or most of their 4 year contracts guaranteed.
Agree with your point to some degree. But for a 2nd rounder, there is a possibility to cut him on that 4th year.
For instance, Logan Hall contract his 4th year is about 3 million. The Bucs if they cut him would have a 1.2 million dead cap hit. The minimum salary would be about $700,000 that year so the Bucs could save about 1 million over a minimum salary guy.
Here’s hoping that he is outperforming a minimum salary guy.
August 20th, 2023 at 9:08 am
Geno – Hall has 2 full years to improve before you even consider the cap implications of cutting him.
That was MY point. Anyone saying “get rid of him” doesn’t know what they are talking about. He’s already here for at least 1 if not 2 years beyond 2023.
Bucs have no choice but to continue working with him and trying to develop Hall into an NFL player.
August 20th, 2023 at 9:17 am
Licht isn’t supposed to have a100% hit rate people that’s unrealistic to call out a general manager. I had no expectations for hall so I’m not disappointed, he’s been mostly invisible to us anyway
Now where I do have a problem is this team forcing him into action by making him a starter. Best man should play period. There is a trending theme with Bowles. Got rid of JPP because they had unproven JTS and JPP was better than him injured
August 20th, 2023 at 9:28 am
No gm gets them all right halls still a young man who knows
August 20th, 2023 at 9:34 am
He’s not strong enough, can’t get off blocks. Once an o line guy gets hands on him, he’s done.
August 20th, 2023 at 10:08 am
B U M.
August 20th, 2023 at 10:46 am
Not only did Hall look weak and slow, his effort looked bad. Didn’t look like he even cared to stop a run or hit the QB. Very concerning. Gaines also looked like dogcrap tonight. Senat is looking like a better second string nose than him.
August 20th, 2023 at 1:50 pm
Gholston/Hall Sacks by Year
Y1 – 2 / 2.5
Y2 – 2
Y3 – 3
Y4 – 3
Y5 – 0
Y6 – 1
Y7 – 1
We love Gholston but hate Hall.
Why?
August 20th, 2023 at 1:53 pm
I wouldn’t call him a bust yet. I don’t see him as ever being more than JAG, though.
August 20th, 2023 at 1:55 pm
Senat isn’t bad at all.
August 20th, 2023 at 1:59 pm
Not living up to his draft position that’s for sure.
August 20th, 2023 at 3:32 pm
Second round pick bust, it sounds like. Hope I’m wrong, Go Bucs!!
August 20th, 2023 at 3:56 pm
I don’t get it, Logan Hall is so talented. It must be the mental side of the pro football that is holding him up. Well I bet Kancey shows is dominant skills by mid-season and that will just make Hall look even worse. If Hall doesn’t show something this season. He will be most remembered in Buccaneer history for playing physical during walk through drills during last season’s camp and severely injuring Ryan Jensen and Jensen’s loss was felt all last season and now Jensen’s career could potentially be over. So thank you Logan Hall for that….
August 20th, 2023 at 6:07 pm
I Honestly don’t believe Our Defense is good enough To rest anybody Starters Etc. Everyone should be playing..we haven’t proved we can Rest players… Our DBs play 15yds off the ball.. we don’t generate a pass rush… Like why are we resting players… Period Hall was A reach anyway for what… waist of a draft pick…. If we went 8-9 last year I honestly can see us going 0-17 this year Todd fired after week 6 at 0-6 Not being negative but tell me what promises you have seen with our team thus far….Baker should have played… But hell why coaches giving him the job which is a blessing now I know we going to lose
August 20th, 2023 at 6:36 pm
past time to cut him
August 20th, 2023 at 6:52 pm
“Reality” BucFan!? The most ridiculous take I’ve heard. Definitely, the dumbest. The rest were just trolls… I honestly believe YOU truly meant every word. Resting starters… It’s The PRE. Freakin. SEASON. Clown. And, I’m not even wasting my time responding to the rest.
August 20th, 2023 at 7:54 pm
Suh
August 21st, 2023 at 10:58 am
This is preseason. They rest the starters. What should have been done is get a sports psychologist to work with Hall right after injuring Jensen. Ending the career of a vital blocker/center for Brady would make a head case out of most. Getting back up on the bike did not work with him. Now that he sees that careers end with one injury, he is gun shy. This is our pay off our debt year, we want to win, but really need the draft picks next year. I want everyone safe this year. Next year we rebuild. Go Bucs!
August 21st, 2023 at 2:21 pm
Some thoroughbreds look fantastic but never win a race. Same with some football players. They may have been good enough in college but just don’t transition well to the pro game where everybody is bigger or faster or both. It sucks when a high draft pick doesn’t pan out but it happens fairly often. Good college players don’t always become good pro players. And some late draft pics expected to be camp meat surprise everybody and surpass all expectations. Happens every year across the league.