Todd Bowles Says Joe Tryon-Shoyinka Is A Step Or Two Away

July 26th, 2023

Todd Bowles explains.

Earlier this year from the combine in Indianapolis, Bucs coach Todd Bowles said that Joe Tryon-Shoyinka needs to finish his rushes.

Bowles explained his first couple of steps are pretty good. But he needed to learn how to finish to be a strong pass rusher.

“For me, Joe has to finish at the top of the rush,” Bowles said after practice today. “He beats linemen and either slips down or falls off the quarterback because he’s launching too early and not running through the quarterback.

“He has to take those extra two steps. He left a lot of sacks out there last year – not that he didn’t get back there but he didn’t finish the play. Finishing at the top of the rush is just as important as beating a guy initially off the line of scrimmage.

“Me and Joe talked about this and he understands that and he’s working towards that and that’s what we need to see from him.”

Later, Bowles confessed JTS has competition from Anthony Nelson to start at outside linebacker.

So to Joe, it seems the Bucs organization of the Bucs is sending a message to JTS both personally and indirectly: produce or step aside.

Just yesterday Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht said JTS, a man he drafted, needs to “step up” this fall, his third season. Now Bowles says JTS’s starting job isn’t locked in stone.

Messages have been sent. Will JTS hear them and act accordingly?

40 Responses to “Todd Bowles Says Joe Tryon-Shoyinka Is A Step Or Two Away”

  1. SB~LV Says:

    So nothing has changed

  2. A Bucs Fan Says:

    JTS said he himself he was watching his cut ups all off-season and it burned him up being so close and not finishing. He said he was committed to making the jump this year. Seems motivated to me and I hope he finally develops.

    Now I’m more excited for Calijah where I read and heard was in the backfield all day beating double teams and one on ones in almost every drill including 11on11… can’t wait to see if it’s the same thing when pads come on!!

  3. Zwak Says:

    Hasn’t he always been a step or two away..

  4. ATLBuc Says:

    So many times last year JTS got hands on the QB but didn’t get the sack. There’s no doubt he can beat his man and get to the QB. He just needs to learn how to get him on the ground consistently

  5. Duane Says:

    JTS needs to be coachable, with Todd Bowles giving him the directions he needs to follow. If he does let himself be coached and respond accordingly, he has the physical talent to be very good. The third year will be the true test.

  6. Marine Buc Says:

    I agree with our head coach 100%.

    Go and watch the film for yourself if you don’t agree.

    JTS is winning at the LOS. He is getting to the QB frequently. He needs to improve his abilities at the point of attack. Slow down and be in control and make the play…

    He was so close to having 10+ sacks last year it was ridiculous.

    I believe JTS will have over 8 sacks this season and hopefully more.

  7. Paratrooper Buc Says:

    JTS reminds me of the “Clifford Franklin” character in the movie “The Replacements.” In the movie, Clifford is a WR who can beat coverage but can’t catch the ball which initially makes him a useless WR but being a movie, Clifford overcomes the issue and catches clutch passes. Doesn’t matter if JTS can beat the defender but can’t catch the QB and this isn’t a movie. I hope he makes the leap but like many, I’m skeptical.

  8. Boss Says:

    JTS is just one or two techniques from getting to the inside. when he does… look out. shaq should be able to coach this kid up.

  9. Boss Says:

    Gloria Gaynor – I Will Survive

    play it… after the D-line goes to jail for beating up a team at a bar in preseason.

    DO IT!

  10. Beej Says:

    JTS needs stickum.

  11. HC Grover Says:

    Plan 9 still in high orbit. He would have to fire retro rockets to re-enter.

  12. Voice of Truth Says:

    He reaches and grabs too much instead of running through the tackle and wrapping up – happens in both the run and pass game

    Can AWIII just be the new tackling coach? Dude has absolute perfect form and tackles anyone no matter their size or momentum advantage….

    I’d have him leading tackling drills every day – JTS could learn a lot about breaking down and exploding through a tackle….

  13. Jack Burton Mercer Says:

    That jumping, or leaving his feet, sounds analogous to a receiver who leaves his feet when the ball arrives. He will just have to work it out with lots and lots of practice.

  14. The Beer Whisperer Says:

    JTS just needs advice, from the arm-chair edge rushers. Here in the peanut-gallery.

  15. Buc4evr Says:

    Ha, his whole career has been a day late and a dollar short. I don’t expect anything to change.

  16. destinjohnny Says:

    Licht missing on yet another d lineman

  17. destinjohnny Says:

    funny though ,is our best outside pass rusher.

  18. The Beer Whisperer Says:

    JTS needs to be more analogous, about leaving his feet. Experts say.

  19. Statguy Says:

    Let Nelson cook

  20. The Beer Whisperer Says:

    Code word for: “He still ain’t ready”

  21. Fred McNeil Says:

    If he wants a nice second contract he will learn to bring the QB down.

  22. Rod Munch Says:

    8 sacks in his first two years does not equal a bust. It’s not great or anything, but that’s not a bust. Hopefully he can just get that step and wrap-up taken care of, and he should become a solid, if unspectacular, player.

  23. Sly Pirate Says:

    A Bucs Fan … I heard the same. No one could block CK all day. Maybe Joe had a bad angle because I know we’d all rather about our explosive rookie.

  24. Dooley Says:

    I wanna see better bend, stronger hands, and more control transtioning from get off to playing through blockers. JTS has been knocking on the door since he got here, it’s year 3 and now time to start kicking that mf’er off the hinges. Took 2 seasons for Nelly to start showing up, and to me the team will be better with both contributing not either or.

  25. All_da_way Says:

    Nassib had the problem of not finish plays to yield sacks and TFLs. JTS is more athletic and talented so with more practice he should learn to finish.

  26. Destinjohnny Says:

    JTS is our best outside pass rusher
    Anyone nervous ?

  27. Marine Buc Says:

    @ Destin

    It all depends on how things go with Shaq’s return.

    But I agree – there are several interesting stories to follow this season at one buc.

    JTS is certainly one of them.

  28. Destinjohnny Says:

    How does it work out when u have nobody that can pressure the QB?

  29. TDTB Says:

    What about Hall? We’re riding Plan 9 like a Mexican mule, but zippo about Hall.

  30. Tap-Out Says:

    This is simple …sometimes it takes a player some time to develop…he is still learning that the NFL game demands strength at the point of attack! He will be better this season!

  31. Craig Says:

    If the interior of the D-line is a lot quicker with Kancey, JTS might not need those two steps.

    If the QB is flushed and heads toward JTS, I doubt he would miss.

  32. Oviedo Jim Says:

    Enough please. Jts

  33. Oviedo Jim Says:


  34. Rod Munch Says:

    Destinjohnny Says:
    July 26th, 2023 at 8:21 pm
    How does it work out when u have nobody that can pressure the QB?


    I think Hall should be improve, and the Bucs have some solid defensive line depth for once, and so guys should be fresher, and in return they should get more pressure.

    Kancey, I strongly believe, is going to be a very good player, maybe even great, but even 1st ballot HOF all-time greats like Sapp didn’t do a lot in their rookie years. But the new coach, next year, should be really excited about some of the young guys on this team.

  35. garro Says:

    Bowles is a fool if he has given anyone on the first team the idea that they can’t be replaced by next week. I played the game and if I had a couple of poor practices, I knew there were a couple of guys who could and would get my snaps.

    Go Bucs!

  36. garro Says:

    Hall now looks like an NFL player!

    Go Bucs!

  37. garro Says:

    I hope they give Nelson more snaps in the regular season. His production with limited snaps warrants it.

    Go Bucs!

  38. HC Grover Says:

    Maybe he could play TE he sure does not seem to be a good fit as DL.

  39. Destinjohnny Says:

    Guys Hall doesn’t have it

  40. firethecannons Says:

    JTS is always a couple steps away and it is not good enough, this is NFL not college ball. He needs to be an animal, probably busy learning his sack dance moves. He needs to be going all animal on anyone in his way