A Degree In Competition Management

March 28th, 2023

New Bucs offensive coordinator Dave Canales.

Quarterback competitions in the spring and summer are often messy — unless you know exactly how to handle the situation.

This was a point of emphasis to Joe last night from multiple sources at the NFL Annual Meeting in Phoenix at the swanky Biltmore resort.

New Bucs offensive coordinator Dave Canales is that guy.

Many Bucs fans don’t realize Seattle’s Geno Smith/Drew Lock quarterback competition went through the final preseason game last year before Smith was named the starter. It was that close. Canales was the Seahawks’ quarterbacks coach at the time.

Smith got the starting gig and went to his first Pro Bowl while Seattle was the surprise team in the NFC playoffs. They led at halftime of their playoff game against San Francisco but got blown out in the second half.

Now Smith has a fat contract and Lock is a highly paid backup. Lock and Smith both re-signed with Seattle this offseason.

Joe was told by a Seattle source that Canales did a fantastic job managing the quarterback competition with the offensive coordinator, and he remarkably kept the two quarterbacks united and focused.

So however messy you might consider the new Bucs quarterback competition between Mayfield and Kyle Trask, remember that it’s in the hands of a guy who knows how to get through it successfuly.

31 Responses to “A Degree In Competition Management”

  1. Jack Burton Mercer Says:

    Just as much of that may be on the players involved. One thinks Mayfield may not be so team first as Geno Smith. On the other hand, lot of that will also be up to Mike Evans so we may get through this pretty well after all.

  2. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    Stop it Joe!

    Everyone and their momma knows that Wake-n-Baker Mayfield will be the starting QB this coming fall…..

  3. SB~LV Says:

    Is Canales going to follow Dirk Koetters path to HC
    Me thinks so

  4. Goatfarmer Says:

    Don’t forget, at least two more quarterbacks will be added to the Bucs roster. It’s pretty clear that Mayfield’s primary competition to start is likely not on the roster currently. Because, everyone knows, Trask got jobbed due to the widespread Trask Suppression Conspiracy.

  5. Hodad Says:

    Trask obviously is a team first guy, who’s had to bide his time before. Baker said all the right things at his presser so I’ll take him at his word about being a good teammate. Joe seems to want to make this a cat fight which it won’t be. Like what Buc receivers will answer the call for offseason work? The answer is both. What, you think Mayfield could hold a workout without Trask? His arm would fall off, and if he wants to be a team guy I would think the more likely thing to happen is Baker would also invite Trask. The naysayers shouldn’t count Trask out either. Baker will look like a boy next to Trask on the field. Don’t sleep on the fact Licht would love to see his second round pick become the guy in Tampa. This will be a real good QB competition. Something we haven’t seen in Tampa since forever. Enjoy!

  6. Pistol Pete Says:

    You know, we have a number 1 overall pick in the mix for QB after the goat split. I’m not personally a fan of Baker, but he has some juice. Will be interesting to watch this season. I’m especially intrigued at how the WR Corp reacts if both the QB’s suck.


  7. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    @ Pistol Pete

    Brady could’ve done WAY BETTER if actually had a O-Line that could give him time to throw……but he was besieged all season long.

    Atleast Baker is mobile enough to try to escape and make plays….but I don’t expect him to do well if he’s running for his life on every other play.

  8. Canabuc Says:

    Baker had to run on every play when he was on the Rams last year and to top it off as best receiver was Ben’s skowronik. Now he will have his three best receivers he’s had since he was in Cleveland and arguably better and I suspect the offensive line will be better as well than it was on the Rams.

  9. BA’s Red Pen Says:

    Start Trask go 3-14 draft Caleb Williams in 24.

  10. Brandon Jeff Says:

    Am I to understand that you don’t like Trask? Let me rephrase… everyone on here knows that you hate Trask as you tend to “ shout it from the rooftops “.
    The obsessive level of hate directed at him and actually UF as well based on some of your posts, has become quite alarming.
    Whatever they did to you has developed into a deep-seated rage that you can’t seem to overcome as your narrative never changes.
    This Site welcomes and even encourages debate. Back and forth from all sides of an issue brings about a greater understanding by all. You however, never bring anything new to the conversation. People will respond much better to you if you submit a viewpoint followed up with some research to back it up as opposed to just spewing hate.
    You don’t seem to be uneducated but apparently stuck on a hamster wheel.
    Take a leap of faith off the wheel. You may find that you like it.

  11. Goatfarmer Says:

    BrandonJeff, when have I said I hate anyone? And I am a Gator, UF 1976-1981.

    Quarterbacks aren’t their thing. Running backs, hell yes.

    Trask is a great guy. He’s destined for Glennonesque success as his ceiling. The obsessive fanbois inspire me to emphasize a few points and expose the absurdity of this conspiracy nonsense. I’m not the only one BrandonJeff.

    So let’s have your “research” on Trask. It’s what he did in college, right? Case closed.

  12. Goatfarmer Says:

    And BrandonJiff – take your holier than thou preacher schtick and give yourself a proctoscopic examination with it.

  13. Defense Rules Says:

    Hodad … ‘This will be a real good QB competition.’

    I agree Hodad, and the winner in the long term as a result of that will be the Bucs. We can’t afford to just ‘anoint’ Mayfield or anyone else we happen to sign before preseason as the starting QB; the stakes are much too high right now. We’ve got a team in transition (post-Brady?), and picking the wrong guy to lead this offense from Game 1 could be disastrous.

    I believe that Canales, Bowles & Licht all want the same thing, and it does NOT involve tanking to get the #1 pick next year (those who contend that conveniently overlook the fact that Winston AND Mayfield were both #1 picks in their respective drafts; that obviously doesn’t guarantee anything). All 3 of them want to set the foundation for a TEAM that can be successful as we transition through this really difficult salary CAP situation.

    That’s gonna be a LOT harder than any of us can envision at this point IMO. But I believe that it can be attainable IF we make good decisions in free agency AND the draft (we’re doing well so far), and IF our coaching staff can get all these new faces focused & playing as a team. That’ll be the major challenge me thinks, because the talent level almost surely won’t be close to what we fielded in 2020 & 2021.

  14. Mike C Says:

    Dang Brandon Jeff you made Goatfarmer forget to Trash the coach…… must have got to him.

  15. Mike C Says:

    So 76 to 81….. that would make you…… ok NM man I am not picking on you anymore. I know why you keep saying the same things over and over and over now.

  16. Oddball Says:

    Wake and Baker…

    Good one

  17. Goatfarmer Says:

    Mike C – that made me laugh. BTW, do you have a Bloweszo mask you can wear to any games?

  18. Mike C Says:

    Bro, I think the guy sucks too, just tired of seeing repetitive post, I enjoy the comment section because people make some good points on here. … sometimes.

  19. Doc Says:

    A O/C who has not call a play since J/V football and a Quaterback with luggage, good luck with that.

  20. Goatfarmer Says:

    “Failed coaches for $500, Alex:”

    And the answer is, “”This NFL head coach has set the all time standard for failure in the league, with a soon to be incredible streak of five losing seasons in a row.”

  21. Brandon Jeff Says:

    @ Goatfarmer,
    I am anything but “ Holier Than Thou “ and if I projected that, it was not intentional. I, like I believe most of the posters on here, just want a well thought out discussion/debate on the different aspects of any topic brought forward about our Bucs. I don’t think this is meant to be a battleground and I hate when it devolves into that.
    As you say, you are trying to counter or balance out the Trask fanboys. I can agree with you regarding balance however, extremism whether positive or negative is not constructive.
    The sunshine and rainbows group is just as bad as the sky is falling group.
    While I am not a fanboy, I do want to see what we have in Trask.
    If we just dismiss him out of hand, then the loss of that second round pick was a major blow to this team.

  22. Goatfarmer Says:

    BrandonJiff – the fact that you have now wasted two paragraphs doing nothing more than encouraging me to continue is kind of striking, for one who fancies himself to be some sort of forum psychological counselor. How about blowing yourself a kiss.

  23. Buccos Says:

    Todd Bowles is a great defensive mind in the NFL. Everyone associated with the league knows this well. Will he become a successful head coach remains to be determined. He has gained a lot of experience over the years and his defensive players seem to love playing for him. See Jamel Dean. He very easily could have had a winning season last year, if he left in the starters against the Falcons. He made the playoffs with a very flawed team. This season will be the litmus test as far as if he can be a successful head coach. As a true Bucs fan I am hoping and praying that he can lead this team to the playoffs and beyond. Just because he didn’t have a great record with the Jets doesn’t mean that he isn’t going to be a great head coach. More will be revealed

  24. Bucsfanman Says:

    Wow! Just wow!

    In a competition it seems to me like it will be pretty evident as to who the better player is. I mean, football is not complicated.

    Does he understand the playbook?
    Can he hit open WRs?
    Can he recognize defensive formations?
    Can he audible?
    How does he handle pressure situations?

    Then there’s leadership. Is he a “rah-rah” guy or will he head-butt his teammates?! Does he command the respect of his teammates?

  25. Mike C Says:

    Goatfarmer….. don’t do the messing with people’s handles… I mean GoatFu<%3r??? Just not the fight you want to start lol

  26. Mike Johnson Says:

    Good luck coach Canales. But I must use my Mike Tyson line on you sir. “Everybody got a plan until they get hit.” Hope yours works.

  27. Goatfarmer Says:

    Mike C – you can alter my handle however you want, it doesn’t change anything or mean anything. But your obsession is getting unhealthy.

  28. Dooley Says:

    “But your obsession is getting unhealthy.”

    Well, if he’s a regular to this site he is “learning” from the best

  29. Defense Rules Says:

    Buccos … Good to see that there are still some on this JBF site who have open minds when it comes to Todd Bowles.

  30. Buccos Says:

    DR- Thanks! I believe he did as well as could be expected last year with the players and coaches that he inherited. This year it’s all on him

  31. Goatfarmer Says:

    Lots of open minds on this site about the head coich, including some who think he will start whoever the fans want him to start. Therefore not play the best players who give the team a chance to win because he’s being unfair…..caring about popularity instead of winning and keeping his job………and if the case, he should be asked to clean out his office today rather than January 11 of 2024.

    Only an inept coach would not run a FAIR COMPETITION. I would write four or five long 700 word paragraphs about it but it’s exhausting, reading someone else’s “War and Peace” bloviating, so it won’t be written.