Dave Canales Has A Link To Todd Bowles

February 16th, 2023

Bucs OC Dave Canales.

So Bucs coach Todd Bowles made his first big hire as Bucs head coach. And he sort of reached into his past with the Jets.

New Bucs offensive coordinator Dave Canales is a protégé of Jeremy Bates, who was Bowles’ quarterbacks coach/offensive coordinator with the Jets for two seasons (2017-2018).

Canales, 41, has been with Seattle coach Pete Carroll dating back to USC in 2009. While at USC, Canales answered to Bates. Both flipped to Seattle with Carroll the next season in 2010, and Canales worked for Bates there. Canales has worked with Seattle quarterbacks since 2018.

The lone season Bates was Bowles’ offensive coordinator the Jets’ offense was gruesome, ranked No. 28 in total offense with 4,787 yards.

Joe has a hunch either Bates recommended Canales to Bowles or Canales reached out to Bates to get a vibe on Bowles. Either way, Joe is confident Bates was a go-between in some way.

37 Responses to “Dave Canales Has A Link To Todd Bowles”

  1. SB Says:

    All I can say is, “I hope you know what your are doing” and……”WTF!!!!!”

  2. SB Says:

    I guess Trask gets thrust into the fire after all.
    Not sure Vets are lining up to play for Canales

  3. sasquatch Says:


    Just mindlessly jump on the negative bandwagon. Canales has a good rep. Give the guy a chance.

  4. Goatfarmer Says:

    Of course. A logical Bowels movement. Toad goes for one of his staff from when he was a total failure with the Jets. Some people just have the urge to crash the car into the wall. Apparently Blowes is that type.

    Makes perfect sense, Toad. Prioritize your comfort that the dude isn’t going to come in and , you know, innovate the offense into something unique and productive, rather than taking a risk on someone with upside, who has produced points and yards and called plays, at some level.

    Heck, there are High Schools that have offensive coordinators with more upside than this Jets stiff.

  5. Buddha Says:

    Joe, your slant is correct but a little unfair. Owles well may have looked for recommendAtions, but there are quite a few reasons to be optimistic about Canales. Seattle has a top 10 offense this year. He resurrected the career of Geno Smith, and he was on the offensive staff of an OC from the Andy Reid coaching tree. Who knows whether Canales will flourish of fail? But let us dig deeper into his history before judging.

  6. Jack Clark Says:

    Hopefully we will NEVER hire a defensive minded head coach again!!!

    RIP no risk it no biscuit 🙏

  7. SOEbuc Says:

    I started lmao after the small intro that he was related to his Jets HC.

    People need to stop crying about Bowles first year where he won the division.

    All we can do is wait for next season. LFG BUCS!!!

  8. Proudbucsfan Says:

    Criticism of Todd Bowles is warranted. We’ve had a great offense ever since Dirk Koetter was here he took our top five offense, and turned it into a bottom, five offense in one season, I do believe that the blame falls on him and Leftwich.

  9. Anonymous Says:

    don’t get too comfortable you will be gone alongside the head coach after this season.

  10. Vlad The Impaler Says:

    A Conversation From The Office of Pete Carroll:
    Canales: I got an OC offer from the Bucs.
    Carroll: That’s great. You should do it. Take a year off from here like JR Sweezey did: Think of it as getting a huge raise just to study the OC position for one year. Then you can come back here w the padded resume and the invaluable experience of knowing what doesn’t work.
    Canales: Thanks coach!

  11. Goatfarmer Says:

    It’s awesome to be prepping for total suck again. Maybe this third rebuild will only take 9 years.

  12. Anonymous Says:

    I just knew today was going to be the day. Just check my last ten days or so and you can tell that I just knew it! “Maybe” Ok, well I knew it would happen eventually.

    With that said, I just know that we have to get a break somewhere and maybe this is it. He looks like a decent choice with a respectable record. Am I sure he can call amazing plays? Well no. But like I said. I just KNOW that we’re do for a lucky break! We’ve had such bad luck this past season that I’d say the odds are in favor of the new hire. Then again if he blows it, I just KNOW that the lucky break will come in the form of a top 3 draft pick. I just know it!

    But seriously, I believe he will impress. He has a ton of time with experience all around him learning for well over a decade from some of the best on the planet! He’s bright eyed and looks intelligent. Or at the least smart enough (unlike Benedict Leftwich Arnold) not to run it up the gut on 2 out of 3 plays (every single series) and play to the strength of any and every defense that’s in front of us while making it IMPOSSIBLE to achieve success with that strategy since it was CLEAR to the entire league and anyone who could at least see a shadow, that the offensive line was our greatest weakness!

    Personally I Call that CLEAR SABOTAGE on the part of Byron Leftwich. But what do I know? Only what my and the Entire Planet’s lying eyes could plainly see for themselves. ESPECIALLY if they understood that our offensive line WAS our greatest weakness and yet Byron Leftwich continued to run it up the gut, USUALLY in the weakest spots on the greatest weakness we have! Just saying……

    I doubt this guy is trying to hurt us like Leftwich did so YES! I believe that we are ABSOLUTELY going to see night and day! He does have a decent background as well. So I’m for it.

  13. CleanHouse Says:

    It’s not even worth commenting anymore

  14. FortMyersDave Says:

    Ok Vlad, that one did get me to almost spit my beer onto the keyboard as it is probably more plausible than the Bucs having a good season.

    That being said, Sasquatch has a point in perhaps holding off on the 2-15 predictions (which I am a bit guilty of guessing that the Bucs will be with the Aints at 5-12 or so) until we are looking at a bye week at 2-7. Crazier things have happened, like the Jets looking like a good team until the wheels fell off on their 6-2 start on the way to 7-10 so that their fast start just hurt their draft position.

    Will the Bucs avoid double digit losses or even a dozen L’s, given Bowels’ history? Probably not but lets wait until the season actually starts before planning who to pick #1 in the 202t4 draft; heck Carolina and ATL fans were doing that last year and they won just enough to miss out on this year’s generational talent, partly thanks to Bowels giving both clubs an upset win. Lets see what Canales puts together before we crucify him.

  15. Anonymous Says:

    O I see a different Anonymous has put in some blah. I guess that’s the beauty of being Anonymous…..

    Come on man, at least represent better! If you’re going off the rail then SPICE IT UP MAN! You’re hurting my unusual rep! And DON’T say what everyone else is saying or at least find a fairly unique way to put it.

    Thanks in advance from the “Anonymous is Us representatives”

    GO BUCS!

  16. HomerSimpsonRocks Says:

    Tank baby, tank.

  17. Goatfarmer Says:

    It’s true, we should hold off on the 2-15 predictions. Too optimistic.



  18. BucsfanFred Says:

    I never heard of Canales. The Seahawks had a decent offence and decent run game so there’s some semblance of hope. I’m guessing it’s pronounced kan al” ez

  19. BucsfanFred Says:

    I see Cooper Rush is a free agent. I wouldn’t mind trying him.

  20. Pryda sec 147 Says:

    Can’t be worse than Marcus arroyo

  21. steele Says:

    So Joe dredges up a sideways ancient historical connection to Bowles through Jeremy Bates. Why, I think you are on to it. Next, the staff will be rounded out by the former water boy at the time Bowles was with the Jets, in addition to the kid who parked cars, maybe the former janitor will be invited for an interview. Yes, indeed. Bowles’ guys. Bring ’em all back.

  22. steele Says:

    The most relieved man on the planet right now has to Tom Brady. So happy to have made the right decision to scram. To have run out and closed the door behind him, right before the new cloud of stench could reach him.

    Can you imagine if Brady were still stuck here under contract. To take orders from Bowles and the great Canales, who has never called an NFL play.

  23. Joe in Michigan Says:

    If you’re trying to connect dots, Drew Lock was the backup last year in Seattle. He’s a free agent. Not sure if Lock is any good, but there’s a connection.

  24. A Bucs Fan Says:

    Every year since 2018 he has coached a QB they ended the season with over a 100 QB rating and at least a 3:1 TD:INT ratio.

    I like that.

  25. Defense Rules Says:

    Good to see at least a few Bucs’ fans keeping an open mind. None of us know how good … or bad … Canales is gonna be. What we do know is that we’ve dug ourselves into one helluva hole, we don’t have the money or draft picks to buy our way out, and that we’ll have to be a LOT more ‘creative’ going forward than we’ve been in the past if we expect to compete.

    Who knows? MAYBE Canales will provide that needed creativity. He’s got more to work with on the offensive side of the ball than we have on the defensive side, and that’s a good thing. The decisions we make over these next 2 months in free agency & in the draft will set the stage for our future direction, and that SHOULD be exciting to all who are REAL Bucs’ fans. Beyond that, how well we train up & use WHOEVER ends up on this Bucs’ team will be critical.

    Don’t let the naysayers … who don’t have a clue about what how that future will evolve … drag everyone down into their black hole. That’s a crappy way to live because it sucks the life out of everyone around them. Go Bucs!

  26. Power of Pewter Says:

    Vlad is right. Canales only here to get a years experience as an OC before Carroll rehires him. Everything is pointing to tanking this season, cleaning house, and installing a 3-year rebuilding plan that will be ready to contend in year 12. Every long-term Bucs fan has seen this movie before.

  27. Stormy Says:

    This feels like Marcus Arroyo, part 2.

  28. Arians4President Says:

    He’s paid his dues and we should all be cheering him on.

  29. Cobraboy Says:

    @DR: I do not trust Bowles decision-making one bit, based on his track record at NY and TB.

    Why should I trust this one?


  30. HC Grover Says:

    Ray Jay will be the home of the New Yuccaneers with this dynamic coach duo. I hope they bring back the orange uniforms for old times sake and the white helmet too. Ha Ha Ha were the Yuccaneers.

  31. BucU Says:

    These pro Canales posts are talking about him like he was the OC of the Seahawks with all the accolades.
    He was the QB coach who’s never called plays in his career. It is clear as a bell that no real OC wanted to come here. I wish him luck. He’s going to need it.
    I predict this offense will be between 29th and dead last this upcoming season. We are absolutely in rebuild mode. This roster for 2023 is going to be laughable. Only reason to tune in at all is to see the train wreck in real time. Can’t wait.

  32. D-Rok Says:

    Not much to say except to say let’s wait and see.

  33. sasquatch Says:

    Stormy Says:
    February 16th, 2023 at 7:26 am

    This feels like Marcus Arroyo, part 2.

    If you’re looking for a reason to be negative, of course it does… even though there are literally no parallels between this hiring and how Arroyo ended up as de-facto OC. Zero.

    Whine on.

  34. Pablocruise Says:

    To A Bucs Fan: Nice homework, I like that too.

    It’s just too easy looking from the outside in to want a spectacular name, not sure who that would be and not a whole lot out there, but these young guys need a shot to prove themselves as well { Eagles coach, can’t spell Siriany}, Nick, that’s it. None of us have a crystal ball, draft is coming up so let’s roll and see what shakes out. I am anxious to see what Trask has learned form 2 years under the GOAT and given a chance to play more than 4 plays with the starting lineup.

  35. J.B. Says:

    Hope the new OC brings Drew Lock with him. Yeah, he lost to Geno Smith in Seattle, but Geno was great this past season and Lock has a year in that offensive scheme. Lock is probably affordable an as realistic.

  36. Ben Harvey Says:

    I hope Bowles isnt going back to his failed Jets days. He always preached lessons learned, well here we are!!!. I am not talking about Canales, Im referring to the idea thar Geno Smith could be QB. Nooooo thank you!!!

  37. Mackey Says:

    Sounds like the perfect Bowles type of move. Bring in a guy from your previous head coaching disaster and hope for the best. Here’s hoping the Seahawks/Pete Carroll connection will win out.

    Update: Just heard the Bucs might sign Drew Lock because of the Seahawks connection. God help us if this does indeed happen. The problem is Bowles. He is just not HC material.