Background Of New OC Dave Canales Suggests Bucs Will Focus On Ground Game In The Draft
February 16th, 2023
Texas RB Bijan Robinson.
Joe will have more later this morning on what the new Bucs offense may look like under Dave Canales. It probably won’t be anything remotely like Bucco Bruce Arians’ No-Risk-It; No-Biscuit attack.
The Seahawks, since Pete Carroll arrived in Seattle (along with Canales), largely have been a run-oriented team, certainly more so than the rest of the NFL outside of possibly Baltimore.
Joe thinks it is fair to suggest the Bucs will go ground-and-pound with Kyle Trask at quarterback unless they get a cheap veteran. And since Todd Bowles has no desire to be dismissed after the 2023 season and likely see his final NFL head coaching opportunity go up in smoke, that may just put one man into focus for the draft.
Could the Bucs be gearing up to take Texas running back Bijan Robinson at No. 19?
(Joe isn’t lobbying for this. But if the Bucs go ground-and-pound, why not go big?)
Robinson is simply a dynamic running back. He’s the closest thing Joe has seen to Ricky Williams since, well, Ricky Williams. (Interestingly, Bowles coached with the Dolphins in Williams’ final two seasons.)
Robinson can do it all. He can run around the edge; he can run through people in traffic and he can catch the ball. In short, Robinson is excellent!
Yeah, this is a loaded draft for running backs. And in a passing league you don’t have to go for the top back. You can find quality later in the draft.
But since the Bucs appear to be going to a run-based offense, Bowles wants to stay employed. So why not get the best back in the draft, a total home run hitter?
Joe could easily live with Robinson toting the rock for the Bucs. Now just keep him from smoking dope with the Aborigines and all should be well.
Bijan Robinson: legendary run pic.twitter.com/73whETZbaw
— Joe Broback (@joebroback) October 9, 2021
February 16th, 2023 at 4:04 am
I mean I guess, but I have a feeling he’d be like Saquon with us. We need to beef up the trenches.
February 16th, 2023 at 4:16 am
Are we really in position to be taking another back at 19? We already have Lenny, White, and Vaughn in the room. Seems a bit crowded.
February 16th, 2023 at 4:44 am
OL, DE, or QB
February 16th, 2023 at 4:50 am
Nope, not OK with the Bucs using our #19 pick on a RB. Or our 2nd Rnd pick, or our 3rd Rnd pick. We’ve got so many holes to fill in this defense that we won’t have to worry about a Mack truck running through it; a Yugo could run through it.
Like you said Joe, there’ll be lots of quality RBs later in the draft.
February 16th, 2023 at 5:34 am
Stinnie, Wirfs, Jensen, Mason, Hainsey, Leverett
With Stinnie and Jensen back in action we are ready!
Let’s get that running back!
Go Bucs!!!
February 16th, 2023 at 5:53 am
Don’t waste a rd 1 pick on a RB. Go trenches first. The best o line usually wins. Start there. Then d line.
February 16th, 2023 at 5:58 am
Snooze.
February 16th, 2023 at 6:00 am
Totally down for this game changer.
Otherwise, when he’s drafted one or two spots behind us, we’ll be haunted forever has he has a Hall of Fame career.
“Phew! Thank Gid we made the smart decision of drafting OJ Howard and leaving all those other running backs available on the board!”
February 16th, 2023 at 6:17 am
LT or LG for first pick. Please don’t draft a RB that early. The best back can’t get through a brick wall.
February 16th, 2023 at 6:24 am
Ground & Pound for the win
NFC and AFC with their Super Bowl Records and Winning Percentages in Seasons with Top 10 Rushing Offense and Top 10 Rushing Defense.
NFC
* Pete Carroll: 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2018, 2019 (0.652 winning percentage)
* Doug Pederson: 2017, 2018 (0.625 winning percentage)
* Mike McCarthy: 2011, 2013, 2014, 2018 (0.609 winning percentage)
* Ron Rivera: 2013, 2014, 2017 (0.596 winning percentage)
AFC
* Bill Belichick: 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2018, 2019 (0.688 winning percentage)
* Mike Tomlin: 2010, 2011, 2019 (0.625 winning percentage)
* John Harbaugh: 2010, 2011, 2014, 2018, 2019 (0.579 winning percentage)
* Gary Kubiak: 2011, 2014, 2015 (0.680 winning percentage)
* Mike Tomlin: 2010, 2011, 2019 (0.625 winning percentage)
Super Bowl wins for each coach over that span:
* Mike McCarthy: 1 win (2010)
* Mike Tomlin: 1 appearance (2010)
* John Harbaugh: 1 win (2012)
* Pete Carroll: 1 win (2013), 1 appearance (2014)
* Bill Belichick: 2 wins (2014, 2016), 1 appearance (2017)
* Gary Kubiak: 1 win (2015)
* Doug Pederson: 1 win (2017)
Note: Under Coach Ron Rivera (2015) Carolina Panther were NFC Champs
* Ron Rivera: no wins or appearances with Top 10 in both categories
February 16th, 2023 at 6:30 am
I doubt your paying a premium on Wide Receivers in this offensive model.
Yet, It’s a more conservative, sustainable approach to the New NFL.
Where Quarterbacks are banking $200+ Million in guaranteed money.
February 16th, 2023 at 6:37 am
Go get Alstott , Wilder or Dunn to come back to help us out.
No risk it, no biscuit, right?
February 16th, 2023 at 7:09 am
I feel like my parents gave me a flashy, fun, and winning ‘68 Camaro for Christmas (Arians) then took it away and gave me an old, boring, slow, and losing ‘66 station wagon (Bowles and his boring AF old school philosophy).
I love my Bucs, but BA spoiled me. He showed me what exciting football was and I don’t know that I can watch throwback football.
February 16th, 2023 at 7:18 am
You got it Luv…others dont get it yet. Brady is gone and Trask is now….we’re gonna need a great ground game for sure. Thats why im ready for a new LT, Duncan. I remember pushing hard here for Wirfs and Marpet and look how that turned out.
February 16th, 2023 at 7:29 am
@ MadMax
No doubt Bredren.
Wirfs & Marpet were great picks.
Duncan’s a solid prospect as well.
February 16th, 2023 at 7:36 am
Thanks for the Australia story link. Good read.
February 16th, 2023 at 7:39 am
Bowles is going to set this team back 10 years. So now we’re going to start building an offense that is now irreverent in the NFL. Sounds great. Being a Bucs fan is really painful.
February 16th, 2023 at 8:01 am
Robinson will be long gone by pick 19. He’s a generational talent, and even with the devaluation of running backs, he’ll be a top 10 pick.
February 16th, 2023 at 8:05 am
Most good rushing teams have a very mobile quarterback that has the ability to run. Trask is strictly a pocket passer hes slow as molasses. So they will either have to draft a mobile QB or sign a FA to be a successful rushing team.
February 16th, 2023 at 8:20 am
@ Luv
Nice post.
I agree 100%. Especially if Trask is going to be the QB next season. He is going to need a strong run game in order to succeed. If he is throwing the ball 40 times or more a game we are going to be in big trouble.
Also agree it is much more cap friendly to build a run dominant offense than paying a pocket passer $50M a season – IF you are able to ever find a good one. Mobile QBs are much easier to find these days.
February 16th, 2023 at 8:27 am
@ DR
I agree. Our first three picks should be defense, defense defense.
If we lose SMB and Dean – we need CBs.
If we lose Edwards, Ryan and Neal we will need Safties.
If we lose LVD we will need an ILB.
We currently only have 2 D-lineman on the roster.
We currently only have 1 pass rusher on the roster who is healthy and who knows if Barrett returns to prior form.
February 16th, 2023 at 8:31 am
You’re great, Joe….but this is just a very very silly suggestion. He may be great, but you can’t look at this team and think “you know what’s most pressing?? RB.” Just…just….no.
February 16th, 2023 at 8:34 am
This guy was a WR coach for 7 years at Seattle…..coached Russell Wilson……I wouldn’t jump to conclusions on the ground and pound offense for the Bucs….
I would say that is a good plan of attack with Trask….give him a good running game….
We need to draft a road grader & a RB…..but we don’t need to spend a first round pick on a RB.
February 16th, 2023 at 8:49 am
We don’t have the offensive line to pound the rock without a QB is great at play action. Time to draft a LT or two LT’s and move one inside to LG. Let Goedeke battle with Mason at RG. He can be the backup at at RT and RG if he doesn’t win the job. Trade Mason if the battle is close. Hainsey can battle with the rookie drafted for LG and be the backup C. That leaves Stinnie or Leverett, or one of the developmental guys as backups.
February 16th, 2023 at 8:55 am
@ Marine Buc
Per our conversation a couple days ago.
#Repost
LUVMYBUCS Says:
February 8th, 2023 at 10:08 am
In order to improve the team’s performance, it is suggested to adopt the successful 49ers’ model and allocate significant resources towards enhancing the defense and fortifying the offensive line.
This comprehensive approach involves leveraging the expertise and strengths of Head Coach Todd Bowles and is designed to build a solid foundation for the team. By fortifying the defense and enhancing the offensive line, the team will be better equipped to compete and succeed in future games.
The goal is to create a cohesive, high-performing unit that can effectively execute on both sides of the field.
Sign
Jarrett Stidham
PJ Walker
Draft
Herdon Hooker
Trade Trask (For 4th or 5th RD Pk)
Potential Line Up (Jacoby Brissett?)
Jarrett Stidaham | PJ Walker | Herdon Hooker
In the mock up, I suggested that we trade Trask because he’s not very mobile, but that can be resolved if a few other factors (offensive Line, TE, Running Game) work effectively
February 16th, 2023 at 8:57 am
@ Marine Buc
Appreciate the compliment Marine.
February 16th, 2023 at 9:16 am
Amazing Talent I’ll let Licht do his thing
February 16th, 2023 at 9:26 am
This kid is different and gonna be a complete game changer. If we trade back a few spots and can get him with an extra pick I’d be down! I’m not even a rb in the first round guy but this kids gonna be one of the best in the league in short order. Definitely worth a first easily
February 16th, 2023 at 9:47 am
You only need a decent running game in today’s NFL.
This is a passing league 1st.
We are going backwards under Lovie…errr…bowels.
Freaking dinosaurs
February 16th, 2023 at 9:47 am
I came on this morning and was reading the headlines. They only get worse and worse. Focusing on the running game? That better mean a new LT.
February 16th, 2023 at 10:26 am
Bowles is still HC, and he is a defense first guy. The first few rounds will be Bowles trying to strengthen the defense.
The might be an O-line guy in 4, but he will be a project, and the Bucs already have too many projects on the O-line.
A good run game is going to take a couple of years to gel. Bowles isn’t going to give it time.
I think we are circling the drain that the Jets went down.
February 16th, 2023 at 11:02 am
Round 1 on a RB kinda makes me sick.
February 16th, 2023 at 12:11 pm
I’m not Jesus.com like the commercial but there is somehow always references to my post past JBF articles.
If we wanna keep Lenny yesterday, before Canales: “No! Been saying it all offseason he definitely needs to leave and draft Bijan Robinson. It might be a passing league, but rebuilding oline and White and Robinson can be very dangerous.”
I’m a Texas fan but if anyone saw Roschon Johnson tag team with Bijan, he would be a number one in college somewhere else. He was top notch at the senior bowl until he broke his hand. We could get him later. Like I said I’m a Texas fan, but they had the best RB and running game so it’s not like I’m being biased about it.
February 16th, 2023 at 12:19 pm
A draft nic, Joe Bucs Fan is not, read all the old posts with much love for Johnny ‘Football’ Manziel, and Jameis ‘Jaboo’ Winston, and skepticism of Devin ‘The Savior’ White…
February 16th, 2023 at 12:19 pm
Should not take a rb until 3rd round unless some guy falls right into our laps in round 2. Focus in trenches. Biggest improvement in our run game is getting Jensen back and letting best guy win at LG. Stinnie prob would be solid in run game, but dunno if he will be back. I’d like some new blood in mix at interior OL.. we could even be looking at a replacement for Smith at tackle. Don’t believe he was real strong run blocking
February 16th, 2023 at 12:19 pm
I like. This is a guarantee non blunder like Plan 9, etc. A good start for rebuild. Bye Lenny.
February 16th, 2023 at 12:22 pm
Too many other needs to take a RB in round 1, when most of the successful backs in the league are mid-rounders playing on teams that have an OC who knows how to scheme a running game!
February 16th, 2023 at 12:45 pm
Clueless Todd strikes again!
February 16th, 2023 at 12:48 pm
Let’s go trenches how about we draft Gaines Adams and pass on that Adrian Peterson guy, no wait, OJ plays in the trenches not Dalvin, Bijan has star written all over him
February 16th, 2023 at 1:08 pm
It’s 2023 and a passing league but the Bucs want to ground and pound.
February 16th, 2023 at 1:23 pm
Can go running back with the first pick just because Bowles wants to run it more and for damn sure not with this offensive line. You have a number one back so beef up the trenches and get speed at safety. It won’t matter as much who carries the rock
February 16th, 2023 at 2:11 pm
Bijan is a player. We’ll pass and he will be wildly productive for them. Gotta run the ball to pu 3rd downs and close games out.
February 16th, 2023 at 2:20 pm
Bucamania … ‘It’s 2023 and a passing league but the Bucs want to ground and pound.’
Yes it is 2023, and yes there is a lot of passing going on in today’s NFL. However, why ASSUME that the Bucs will be going ‘ground and pound’?
I’m convinced that there’s another offensive model in there that’s based on a BALANCED ATTACK. No, not ‘balanced’ as in 50% run, 50% pass. But rather ‘balanced’ in such a way that the running game complements the passing game, and vice versa. How much of each depends on a myriad of factors IMO, such as your opponent’s defensive strengths & weaknesses, and of course your own strengths & weaknesses. The whole idea being to maximize your own strengths, exploit your adversary’s weaknesses, and keep them continually off-balance. And oh ya, to SCORE POINTS in the process.
Don’t know how much Canales’ offense will mirror Seattle’s, but my gut feeling is that by the end of 2023 the Bucs will sport a run-pass ratio in the 40%-45% range. Look at the Seahawks over the past 3 years:
o 2022: 425 rushes … 1044 total plays … 40.7% run-pass (assuming of course that sacks resulted from passing plays)
o 2021: 413 rushes … 954 total plays … 43.3% run-pass
o 2020: 411 rushes … 1022 total plays … 40.2% run-pass
Now look at Bowles’ 4 years in New York …
o 2018: 410 rushes … 971 total plays … 42.2% run-pass
o 2017: 427 rushes … 984 total plays … 43.4% run-pass
o 2016: 418 rushes … 1003 total plays … 41.7% run-pass
o 2015: 448 rushes … 1074 total plays … 41.7% run-pass
Notice how ‘narrow’ that run-pass ratio window is? Everything fell in the 40%-45% window. And they’re both defensive coaches. Coincidence? Joe will tell you he doesn’t believe in coincidence, and neither do I. Many of the other defensive-oriented coaches seem to strive for that ‘sweet-spot’ for some reason based on what I’ve seen. I suspect that’s what they consider to be a BALANCED ATTACK, but that’s just conjecture.
February 16th, 2023 at 3:17 pm
Sorry, Joe, but I think you are wrong on this one. In all o the positions he’s coached, RB was not one of them. Everything he’s done has had to do with a passing game.
Carol may have preferred to run, but this guy had nothing to do with it.
February 16th, 2023 at 3:17 pm
Mike Evans(at his age) has to be thinking of asking for trade.& Godwin maybe but less likely.
February 16th, 2023 at 3:29 pm
Bijan also had 19 rec for 314 yards and 2 TD in 2022. Wasn’t that the point with White last year? Except White doesn’t have the amazing running and breaking tackles of a Barry Sanders look alike like Bijan.
February 17th, 2023 at 7:49 pm
I keep seeing people treat Trask like he’s the heir-apparent QB…he has to beat out Gabbert first, which he’s failed to do as yet