Round 1 Goes To Ryan Succop

August 13th, 2022

Power and pressure on display in the preseason opener.

About 5 1/2 months ago at the NFL Scouting Combine, general manager Jason Licht said he wanted and expected a kicker competition between 2021 practice squad kicker José Borregales and Super Bowl season hero Ryan Succop.

Licht cited Borregales’ accuracy in practice. What Licht didn’t cite was a loss of confidence in Succop, whose longest field goal was 48 yards last season, when he was very average overall.

Both kickers have had a solid training camp, but head coach Todd Bowles has been consistently clear that kicking under the lights in preseason games would be critical for Borregales and to a lesser extent Succop.

Tonight in the preseason opener against Miami, Borregales got all the work. And he opened eyes making all three of his extra points and a 55 yarder that might have been good from 65 yards. But then the air went out of the Borregales balloon when he missed a 49-yarder that would have won the game with no time left on the clock.

And Borregales didn’t just miss; it was a mis-hit ball that had some weird slice on it and hit the upright.

Succop didn’t kick tonight, but Joe still has to give him the edge in Round 1 of the preseason. Inconsistency under pressure is not what Todd Bowles wanted to see from Borregales.

As Joe wrote earlier this summer, history says Bowles won’t hesitate to pull the plug on Succop if he’s confident in Borregales. But the odds of that happened just plummeted.

It’s a kicker’s life.

40 Responses to “Round 1 Goes To Ryan Succop”

  1. Trask To The Future Says:

    Borregalis ruined Trask’s amazing game-winning drive.

  2. Rod Munch Says:

    I don’t think you get a round 2, I think Borregales just lost the job.

    If I’m the Bucs, I just go ahead and cut Borregales and bring in someone else. The only time that it matters if you make kicks is in the game, and if that’s the regular season… Well, I’ll take my chances with the veteran, even if he doesn’t have much distance anymore.

  3. Kody Says:

    Screw Borregales. Total bum.

  4. Ash Says:

    Lol wow I guess no slack with these fans crazy

  5. Smashsquatch Says:

    TKO. Feel bad for him, but no chance they keep him now. Good thing they were able to simulate a pressure kick.

  6. David Says:

    I do not think it plummeted at all. I think the rookie Punter and kicker will be the starters.

  7. Bucky23 Says:

    Lol relax everybody. We chased off Matt Gay as well. Need a kicker with a stronger leg than Succop IMO.

  8. ATLBuc Says:

    Round 1 goes to Kyle Trask!! Watch out Brady! He’s coming for your position.

  9. Tbbucs3 Says:

    The #19 is cursed for Bucs kickers

  10. Rod Munch Says:

    Bucky23 – Yeah, but Gay had already gone through his rookie season, that’s where kickers generally struggle. Borregales hasn’t gone through that struggle yet, and with Brady in, almost certainly, his last year, you can’t have a rookie kicker out there blowing games for you.

    Then again, Gay single handedly losing the Bucs 2 games cost Winston his job, which is why the Bucs went after Brady. It’s very likely if Gay doesn’t lose the games, the Bucs are 9-7 under Winston in Arians first year, they had locked up Winston before Brady even hit the market.

    So you can look at it either way I suppose.

  11. Tbbucs3 Says:

    “Need a kicker with a stronger leg than Succop IMO”

    Accuracy is what matters. Leg strength is highly overrated for kickers. Remember Kyle Brindza? Succop is our guy.

  12. Yucs2Bucs Says:

    Rod Munch is on this and every one of Joes articles with his amazing analysis and the Bucs should hire you and NDOG

  13. Bucky23 Says:

    Tbbucs3 – what happens when they need a 50+ yard field goal in the playoffs to advance and Succop doesn’t have the leg for it?

  14. Yucs2Bucs Says:

    It’s the first preseason game and Munch and other Negative Nancy’s just can’t help themselves, but PLEASE stop with your comments 😳 it’s insane and obviously your only on here to stir things up and you and NDOG keep real Bucs fans off the site and just came here and to see your comments and that many post is ridiculous!!! Go get a GF bro

  15. cmurda Says:

    Exactly Rod. Succop came through consistently when it mattered in the playoffs and you can’t have a guy nut up and hit a 2 iron fade as time expires.

  16. 1sparkybuc Says:

    So we dump him and he goes on to have a HOF career with some other team. I doubt Succup would have made that kick from 49 yards out.

  17. Oxycondoms Says:

    Can bucs force succop to restructure contract and keep both

  18. Yucs2Bucs Says:

    Cmurda are you serious and that’s your and Rods opinion after the first preseason game ? Oh my God and why don’t you, Rod, and NDOG start your own site and have 6 followers that agree with your in-depth analysis and negativity 😳

  19. sasquatch Says:

    So, he hit the 55 yarder that Succop would have been short on… And Succop is no lock to hit from 49 either… So, I see no reason to give the edge to Succop except for experience. They would not have been in a position to kick a game winner if Succop missed (likely) the earlier 55er. Edge: Borregales.

  20. Canabuc Says:

    What is the average make % of a 49 yard kick in the NFL? 50+ is about 57-to 63%.
    So no gimme. He was iced after making it on the time out call.
    Somehow as bad as the kick was it still had the distance and hit the upright.he made all 3 extra points and a 55 yarder that would have been a punt if succop was the kicker.

    Don’t write him off too fast.
    We did that with Gay. And the pro bowler then beat us in the Superbowl

  21. Irishmist Says:

    Sure let’s dump him now so he can get picked up by another team and beat us with a game-winning field goal in the playoffs.

  22. Rod Munch Says:

    Yucs2Bucs – I’m brilliant, NDOG is a moron. Get it straight, dummy.

  23. cmurda Says:


    Not necessarily. That’s my opinion so far. I reserve the right to change my opinion but it’s going to take this kid making that kick look like a fluke and him drilling fg’s as the norm. Best of luck to him. I want him to change my mind. That would be for the best. I just don’t think it’s going to happen. A quick lookback at our history with kickers in the Post-Gramatica (love that dude) Era reveals the last thing we should do is dump a veteran kicker that has performed well for us particularly in our franchise’s biggest games. Matt Gay’s name came up. Rightfully so but let’s not forget about Matt Bryant. That one was far more painful than the Matt Gay decision. All Bryant did was excel for years after we foolishly let him go for the exact same reason many folks on here are wanting Succop gone. No thanks. This kid would have had to sweep me off of my feet like “Salma Hayek wanting to spend some alone time with me” style. That certainly did not happen with the clock winding down and I’m doubting that it will.

  24. Slacker Says:

    With this high power offense, fgs should be few and far between

  25. Rod Munch Says:

    Yucs2Bucs – My only point is that you have a veteran team, and mixing in a rookie kicker with a veteran team normally leads to bad things. BTW, I was for keeping Gay in his 2nd year, Brady’s 1st year, because I thought Gay showed plenty of progress and would be a good kicker going forward, but rookie kickers almost always lose you a game or two, and Gay lost as us 2 games. That’s probably what you’d get from Borregales as well. It doesn’t mean in a year or two he might not be a good player, but who knows, we haven’t seen anything from him yet, other than missing the single pressure kick he’s faced.

  26. SPARKY Says:

    You guys realize this was barely better than college football?

  27. tbbucs3 Says:

    Urban Meyer said it best….”make your bleeping kicks!!”

  28. Goatfarmer Says:

    I tend to prefer kickers who make game winners over kickers that miss them. I know, radical stuff.

  29. German Buc Says:

    Unpopular opinion, I know. But that kind of a bad hit on the ball is normally on the holder.

  30. BucTooth Says:

    Practice you talking practice.

  31. Bucs&Bolts Says:

    He got iced ? Idk the kick like joe said had a weird trajectory Mis hit ball need to see film of the hold.

  32. Hodad Says:

    I feel bad for whoever had to clean up Jose’s shat stain on the field! Good news from last night, we don’t have to waste two PS spots for Jose, or Griffen.

  33. Goatfarmer Says:

    I also prefer kickers who don’t smile like a kid from the short bus when they lose a game by missing a kick. I’ve seen enough. Succup it is.

  34. Morgan1672 Says:

    How does round 1 go to Succup? Succup would have missed both of those fields goals, they were both over 40 yards.

  35. FortMyersDave Says:

    The guy jaked the 49 yarder, make it and he probably has the job over Succop given the coin situation. Does anyone on this website want to see that when it counts next month? Cut him and send a message that failure is not tolerated!

  36. Hodad Says:

    Guy chokes on a bunny during preseason what’s he going to do in L.A., or G.B. in the championship game? Answer, choke. Kicking is like putting, all in the head. The kid already has the yips. I wouldn’t count on him just to save on Succups contract.

  37. sasquatch Says:

    ^Little early for such conclusions. He also hit the 55er that Succop doesn’t have the range for.

  38. Alvafan Says:

    Kicking is like putting. That’s flat out untrue!! And the guy who loves Gramatica; he hid an injury at the behest of his agent so he could sign a lucrative extension in 2003. Then he trashed our return to the playoffs by having the worst season of his career and eventually going on IR. Don’t believe it. Go watch him miss the extra point against the panthers and other chip shots early that year and his kick offs? Couldn’t make the 20

  39. jimm Says:

    and i remeber a field goal miss by succup in the rams game that would have meant they needed a touchdown to win rather than a field goal.

    let’s not be so quick to dismiss. 49 and 55 are both out os succups “make it consistently” range.

    let the dual continue.

  40. Power of Pewter Says:

    Succup would have been short on both kicks. Bucs will watch the film, analyze what went wrong, and work on it in camp. It could have been the rookie holder, for all we know. Neither kicker gets cut yet.