A Quarterback Away

February 10th, 2022

Bucs QB Kyle Trask.

Joe thinks that the Bucs have one more year, provided they can retain key free agents by playing accounting hopscotch with the salary cap, to make a run at a Super Bowl.

Think about it: This team is battle-tested. And you think the Bucs are less talented than the Bengals? Well, aside from a quarterback, of course?

It seems Jenna Laine is on the same wavelength. Earlier this week Laine, of ESPN, answered questions from her followers on her Instagram stories feed. There she was asked if 2022 is Kyle Trask’s time to shine.

Too soon, Laine typed.

The Bucs have a small window to be players in the postseason in 2022, And asking a quarterback who has never been active for an NFL game much less taken a snap — much less thrown a pass — might not be the smart move.

“I don’t think that does anything to maximize the window they’ve got right now,” Laine responded when asked if the Bucs are Trask’s team now. “Personally, I think he needs another year to develop before they can even think about staring him and they’re technically a quarterback away.

“I’d go free agency or try to trade. Problem is, there are more teams in need of a QB” than there are capable quarterbacks.

Joe is very confident if the Bucs plan to hand the keys to Trask for 2022, several of the Bucs’ free agents on offense will not return. Why?

Well, if you are a free agent, why would you want to sign with a team that is in a rebuild? And if you are turning over your offense to a guy who couldn’t even beat out Ryan Griffin or Blaine Gabbert on the depth chart, then you are rebuilding.

Joe has no issue letting Trask take over so long as the Bucs plan to rebuild and load up on draft picks. Joe honestly doesn’t think Bucs Super Bowl-winning coach Bucco Bruce Arians, 69, is returning to launch a rebuild.

If the Bucs are going to try to squeeze one last drop out of this orange to make a playoff run, they have to find a veteran quarterback. Somehow, somewhere.

80 Responses to “A Quarterback Away”

  1. SB Says:

    Trask is just waiting for his time to put the NFL world on it’s ear just like he did when he got his shot in College.
    I DO understand how it would be harder to keep everyone by saying his is the starter. Vets that are ring chasing by climbing on board want security at the QB position.
    Bring in Bridgewater, or Gorrapalo. Competition is healthy for everyone. There should be no ‘anointing’ at this point. Make him earn it.

  2. View from 132 Says:

    It doesn’t matter if the Bucs are more talented than the Bengals. The playoffs are about how you matchup with the teams you play. What’s to say the Bucs wouldn’t have won against the Bills or Chiefs or Green Bay or San Francisco? It is a parity league by design, so there are 15+ teams that could’ve been in this Super Bowl, including the Bucs.

    Without knowing the FA signings and losses, no way to know what Bucs team takes the field next year. What the Bengals show though is that getting to 10-7 and hot in the playoffs is better than 13-4 and done.

  3. SufferingSince76 Says:

    Arians has previously stated the Bucs were not rebuilding. They were reloading. I haven’t heard him state otherwise, so far.

  4. Marine Buc Says:

    I wonder what the Texans will want in trade for QB D. Watson?

    If we could get Watson for two first round picks should we go for it?

    His salary/bonus money is $40.4 million next season…

    Watson would have to restructure his deal. I wonder if he would be OK with doing that?

  5. fartman Says:

    What if… Kyle Trask is the next Tom Brady?

  6. allbuccedup Says:

    Bring in a lower price vet,Bridgewater is garbage. Handing the keys to Trask worked out ok for Mac Jones all pro. I guess Joe has no confidence in Leftwich and Christensen.

  7. Marine Buc Says:

    I’m not very excited about the other QBs that have been mentioned like Jimmy G and Carr…

    If we are going for broke we might as well get the best QB available and one that fits BA’s offense very well – and that is D. Watson.

    Let’s hope his legal problems get solved soon.

  8. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Joe has nothing against Trask….tells us this in most every post….but…makes this statement…..

    And if you are turning over your offense to a guy who couldn’t even beat out Ryan Griffin or Blaine Gabbert on the depth chart,

    That’s simply wrong……Ryan Griffin was on the practice squad……Trask was on the roster…..

    A blatant error.

  9. Robert Says:

    Why does everyone want to discount Trask with no evidence on the field?

    I would want to know whats between his ears and is he smart, motivated and know the system?

    If the answer to those 3 are a yes, then give him the keys.

    It’s crazy to think TB couldn’t take this team to the SB, but some other vet QB can. Save the cash, stock up and see if he has the goods!

  10. Juergensen Says:

    JOE SAYS: “And if you are turning over your offense to a guy who couldn’t even beat out Ryan Griffin or Blaine Gabbert on the depth chart, then you are rebuilding.”

    Your comment is based on the false premise that Trask was in open competition with Griffin and Gabbert for the backup job. Trask was never allowed to compete for a spot backing up Brady. The Bucs rightly assumed this would be a second consecutive Super-Bowl-contending-season, and Arians rightly decided he wasn’t going to insert a rookie as a backup in the event Brady went down. Too much at stake.

    I guarantee you that next season, if Griffin, Gabbert, and Trask are allowed to openly compete for the starting job, Trask wins handily.

  11. SB Says:

    @Marine.
    I don’t think there is much chance of Dwat coming here if Darci has anything to say about it.

  12. Juergensen Says:

    “Robert Says:
    Why does everyone want to discount Trask with no evidence on the field?”

    Joe has too much invested in dissing Trask.

  13. SB Says:

    Trask or Pickett?
    Show your equation.

  14. Juergensen Says:

    Well, with that degree from USF in communications, whatever Jenna Lane says must be right!

  15. Craig Says:

    I think you are looking at it wrong. Trask couldn’t beat at Garret and Griffin because he wasn’t given a chance to. It wasn’t a failure.

    I think one member of that massive staff stood by Trask and told him what to look for in Brady’s game, then implement improvements to Trask’s own style, and running that until it became muscle memory.

    I, also, don’t think we have another year of the team being relevant in regards to talent. We have too many players on the downside of their careers. It will be a remodel year, no matter who is QB.

    We will not get a free agent like AB, but that is okay with me because I didn’t want him in the first place. There will be other, smarter players that will come, mainly because of state tax laws.

  16. Joe Says:

    Joe has too much invested in dissing Trask.

    Oh, trust Joe, if Joe had an ax to grind about Trask (or any player), you’d know about it.

    If you expect Joe to be Alberta Gator, you’ve come to the wrong site. Joe doesn’t give two sh!ts where a guy went to college.

  17. Juergensen Says:

    “SB Says:
    February 10th, 2022 at 9:56 am
    Trask or Pickett?
    Show your equation.”

    SEC > ACC
    6’5″ > 6’2″

  18. Joe Says:

    Trask or Pickett?

    Actually read something yesterday (from an NFL type) that Trask, had he come out this year, may have been the No. 1 quarterback picked.

    (Same guy doesn’t believe any of the QBs in the draft are Week 1 starters.)

  19. Posey99 Says:

    I don’t get this thought process. It’s the perfect situation to see what you have in Trask. The talent is too good to start your second round pick QB? what??

    Bring in a vet, but if he starts throwing INT’s and losing games the fans will start to chant for Trask.

  20. Buc4evr Says:

    I don’t totally discount Trask, but he is unproven and untested at this point. If the Bucs want to keep and attract quality FA’s for another title run they must sign a proven veteran QB. Maybe Trask will develop into the right guy, but this is not the year to test that theory and risk losing all of our FA’s.

  21. Marine Buc Says:

    @ SB

    I agree. I’m more conservative by nature – so I would re-sign Gabbert and let him compete with Trask.

    But – I do understand that our playoff window is closing and this might be the year to make a big move in order to stay competitive…

    It will be interesting to see how things play out. I’m sure BA wants a better option at QB but I’m not sure if Licht will want to mortgage the future in order to get his QB.

  22. allbuccedup Says:

    Bucs need to learn from Arians time in Arizona bring in free agents win for three years then strangle the franchise for five years. The Bucs need to do a better job with their draft choices after round one and two its hit or miss and they continue to miss on defensive backs. Winfield, Davis are good. Whitehead finely is playing better but just so happens to be a contract hmmmmm.!

  23. Juergensen Says:

    “Joe Says:
    February 10th, 2022 at 10:03 am
    Trask or Pickett?

    Actually read something yesterday (from an NFL type) that Trask, had he come out this year, may have been the No. 1 quarterback picked.”

    Congrats, Joe! A positive comment on Trask!

  24. Juergensen Says:

    “Posey99 Says:
    February 10th, 2022 at 10:05 am
    I don’t get this thought process. It’s the perfect situation to see what you have in Trask. The talent is too good to start your second round pick QB? what??”

    Exactly. And everyone agrees that if Trask was in this year’s draft (he could have stayed and played another year at Florida) he would definitely be a first rounder and likely the first quarterback selected.

  25. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    A good argument could be made to go with Trask and make several moves to get younger and right the cap space ship.

    JPP, Suh, Jensen, Succup replaced with younger draft picks/FA……

    That would be a really good start.

  26. Juergensen Says:

    Get over the Super Bowl “window” nonsense. That window is shut. No quarterback short of Rodgers is going to take the Bucs to the Super Bowl next season. In fact, with our 2022 schedule, not even Rodgers could take us to the Super Bowl. All the stars are aligned for a rebuild. Start Trask.

  27. Posey99 Says:

    “he would definitely be a first rounder and likely the first quarterback selected.”

    I agree, and most likely won the Heisman too if he repeated what he did in 2020.

  28. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I agree with the SB window…….playoff window is still open…

    If we couldn’t go to the SB last year with Brady….we won’t go next year without him.

  29. Demetrios Says:

    Go look at Arian’s Twitter….. Congratulates Big Ben on his retirement. No mention of Tom Brady’s retirement. Why not? Just saying…….

  30. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    If you look at options in draft and FA track is the best bet. It’s a risk to start a rookie like this but he has been on the roster for a year it’s not like we are starting him as a rookie. I mean if you guys want we could go with bridgewater….

  31. Juergensen Says:

    The Super Bowl window is shut given these facts:

    (1) Brady’s departure;
    (2) Only Rodgers could conceivably take us to the Super Bowl next season; and
    (3) Even Rodgers won’t be abale to take us with next season’s brutal schedule.

    Once one accepts that, why not start Trask and start the rebuild? Many NFL teams have recently started young inexperenced quarterbacks and it paid off for them: Joe Burrow at Cincinatti … Josh Allen at Buffalo … Mac Jones at New England … Justin Herbert at San Diego.

    Josh Allen started at Buffalo with a 67.9 rating his first season and had a 92.2 in his fourth season. Unfortunately, I suspect the Trask haters would want him benched for a 67.9 in his first season. And yet I have no doubt they would be loving Justin Fields despite the 7-TDs-to-10-INTs he posted this – his first – season.

  32. Defense Rules Says:

    Demetrios … ‘No mention of Tom Brady’s retirement. Why not?’

    Personal belief: Bucs haven’t REALLY accepted that Tom Brady is retired … YET. Yesterday Spotrac had Brady’s CAP hit listed a little less than $10 mil. Today it’s bumped up to a little over $20 mil.

    Why? Why would a CAP-strapped franchise like the Bucs unnecessarily eat an additional $10 mil of salary CAP this year for a player who’s ‘retired’? Doesn’t make any sense, UNLESS they still have plans for Brady in 2022. No, not on our roster, but MAYBE trading his rights (held by the Bucs) to someone else. Like the 49ers perhaps? (Most likely option it seems). Oh wait, MAYBE even Denver? (They seem to think they’re close). Or the Saints? (Unlikely on that one; good defense, meh offense).

    Or maybe Tom Brady will just keep vacuuming the house until some contender with a decent record this Fall loses their starter. Carpets can only take so much vacuuming.

  33. Defense Rules Says:

    Juergensen … ‘The Super Bowl window is shut … Once one accepts that, why not start Trask and start the rebuild?’

    Agree that the SB window is ‘probably’ shut for the Bucs for the time being, but I still don’t see our roster as requiring a ‘rebuild’. We’ve got a great core IMO, but too many open holes in terms of starters & key rotational players. At this moment in time, we’ve only got $6.9 mil in salary CAP space to work with, and we’re not picking particularly high in the draft to expect oodles of help there.

    However, if JL makes some reasonable decisions in terms of re-signings, drafting, and new FA acquisitions, I don’t see any reason why the Bucs can’t win the NFL South crown again this year even with Trask OR Gabbert starting (maybe with a 9-8 record or something like that). Will we go deep into the playoffs? Probably not this year, but Rome wasn’t built in a day either. Still could be a very interesting season.

  34. JimmyJack Says:

    Joe your talking about a 1 year window with a new QB. Brady is the only QB I know of that was able to win a SB in year one.

    So you are gonna burn up a few years of draft capitol and create a CAP hell(im guessing) situation for the future all for a one year window? You might actually be making the case here for not making a big move at QB.

    If you can set yourself up for a 3-4 window by adding a QB in 2023 instead of right now it might be a much better choice then expecting a new QB to win with only a one year window.

  35. Joe Says:

    JimmyJack:

    If what you are suggesting is true, Arians wouldn’t he here and the Bucs would be shopping guys like Lavonte David and Donovan Smith for draft picks. Have you read of or heard any rumors of the Bucs putting any veterans up for bid? Is Arians waiting for some reason to delay his retirement?

  36. Juergensen Says:

    Wow! Justin Fields (2021, Rd 1 Pk 11) was sacked 36 times last season in only 12 games! So much for “mobility”! LMAO.

    P.S. QBR of 26.5. Everyone who wanted Fields over Trask, raise your hand!

  37. Arealbucsfan Says:

    A lot of you are being so ridiculous. “But but Free Agents!” We’ve gotten good free agents before Brady. SB or bust!?! C’mon! Highly doubtful we’d make it with Brady next year anyway. Retain the KEY free agents, draft well and develop Trask and see if he sinks or swims. Bridgewater is friggin trash! Stop it! Jimmy G cost a lot of $$ and draft capitol and won’t win us a SB next year either

  38. David Says:

    Big Joe
    Never count Trask out or you will look foolish like his high school and college coaches. Bucs could even win the super bowl this year with Tom B. let alone with he available free agent qb’s now. Trask was better than most of 2021 drafted qb’s and it showed whom none of them worked out except Mac Jones. Trask should easily defeated him in SEC Championship game if it wasn’t due to Florida poor defense. He had same numbers as Mac Jones. Two SEC qb’s in this year super bowl with being almost a rookie. By the way please do not make false statement. Trask was never allowed to compete for the back up jobs and he did beat Griffin for qb3. It was wrong for BA to cement Gabbert as the qb2 with no competition.

  39. Rod Munch Says:

    The Florida fanbois are in overdrive with their ridiculous comments. I don’t dislike Trask, but these dopes are going to end up making everyone dislike him. The kid is a developmental QB – not a starting QB on a playoff team. I have no issues with the Bucs tanking and putting Trask in to lead that tank – but it Trask plays all year, the Bucs are a 3-4 win team. QBs are the most important position in all of sports, and rushing out someone who isn’t ready will likely ruin them.

  40. Juergensen Says:

    “Defense Rules Says:

    Juergensen … ‘The Super Bowl window is shut … Once one accepts that, why not start Trask and start the rebuild?’

    Agree that the SB window is ‘probably’ shut for the Bucs for the time being, but I still don’t see our roster as requiring a ‘rebuild’.”

    Agree. What I meant and should have said is “why not start Trask and move forward?” Instead of dwelling on the last two years? The last team to repeat as Super Bowl champions was the 2003 & 2004 Patriots, so there’s nothing unusual about the Bucs not repeating. In fact it’s the norm. We need to reload where needed and focus on building another Super Bowl caliber team. Fill the holes.

    It can be done. The Bengals did it in Joe Burrow’s second season. Interestingly, both Burrow and Trask played in the SEC – though Burrow played on better teams – and they had nearly identical QB Ratings:

    Burrow 172.4
    Trask 168.5

  41. David Says:

    Meant to say:
    Bucs couldn’t even win the super bowl this year with Tom B. let alone win it next year with the available free agent qb’s now. There should be an open qb competition and start whoever wins it. The Bucs free agent and all players need to respect that no matter if the qb is a rookie or Russell Willson or AR.

  42. Juergensen Says:

    “Rod Munch Says: The kid is a developmental QB”

    Do you base this on his college QB Rating compared to Joe Burrow’s? See below. Did you call Burrow a “developmental QB” too?

    College QB Ratings
    Joe Burrow 172.4
    Kyle Trask 168.5

    What about Justin Fields? He sucked with the Bears this season. Being able to see into the future, did you call Fields a “developmental QB” too? Tell the truth. You wanted him over Trask, right?

  43. David Says:

    Rod Munch Says:

    “The Florida fanbois are in overdrive with their ridiculous comments. Qb’s are the most important position in all of sports, and rushing out someone who isn’t ready will likely ruin them”.

    LOL. Don’t rush, really most qb’s of his class played in 2021 with negative results. Trask has had one year of solid coaching and watching Tom B. You must be a Georgia Bulldogs fan.

  44. Joe Says:

    Juergensen:

    Do you base this on his college QB Rating compared to Joe Burrow’s? See below. Did you call Burrow a “developmental QB” too?

    Stop! First, do yourself a favor. Quarterback rating may be the dumbest stat there is. Don’t believe Joe? Google “all-time quarterback ratings” and read the list. You will find out how that stat is a joke.

    Second, if you are comparing Trask to Burrow, you need to lay off the sauce. If Trask was anything close to Burrow, he wouldn’t be on the Bucs roster. Why? Because he would have been drafted in the top-10, not the third. second round.

    The last time someone went this bananas over a Bucs player on this site it was Mike Glennon’s brother. And before that, it was Earnest Graham’s brother (who is a good dude). Calm down. Nobody here wants to see Trask fail. Quite the contrary.

    Your IP address suggests you are typing this from LaBelle. So Joe doesn’t think you are Trask’s brother. Friend of his girlfriend, maybe.

  45. Juergensen Says:

    @David

    Munch is likely an FSU grad who didn’t get into UF. I know the type. Hatred consumes them.

  46. Buc1987 Says:

    Juergensen do you have a Trask jersey or something?

    If not…you should.

  47. Rod Munch Says:

    David — No, I grew up a Florida fanboy – was one until Spurrier left. I thought Danny Wuerffel looked amazing in college, had pinpoint accuracy, no way he wouldn’t be a good NFL QB. But he threw soft passes with no velocity – and I watched him fail bigly in the pros.

    Trask is a modern Wuerffel as is – and he’s needing to relearn how to throw the ball with velocity. That’s why he wasn’t picked until basically the 3rd round despite his size and production. If you guys want Trask to be something – then you should want him sitting for as long as possible, because if he throws those cupcake passes at the NFL level, he’ll be a bust.

  48. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Learning from Brady doesnt mean squat if you can’t do Brady things. You know who else “learned” from Brady? Jacob Brissett, Matt Cassel, and Brian Hoyer.

    And Juergenson, Dwayne Haskins had 50 passing TDs at Ohio State…by your logic he must clearly be better Kyler Murray who only had a measly 42 TDs.

  49. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Unless BA and our other offensive coaching gurus go and get a veteran QB, give the keys to Trask. If he doesn’t have the goods, I will take a wild guess as to what position we are drafting in 2023. I’m pretty confident the Bucs already know what they are going to do with the QB position this year.

  50. BucsFan81 Says:

    I agree with the start Trask. Problem is a lot of the QB available are trash. Is it worth spending all your cap and half your draft for an average QB with veteran experience. It would be better to see what you have in Trask and use the draft pics and free agency to help with the defense and offensive line and RB. That way you are taking pressure off of a young QB and surrounding him with a run game, solid offensive line and a defense.

  51. Juergensen Says:

    “Joe Says:

    If Trask was anything close to Burrow, he wouldn’t be on the Bucs roster. Why? Because he would have been drafted in the top-10, not the (third) second round.”

    1. He was very close in career QB Rating, both playing in the SEC:

    Joe Burrow 172.4
    Kyle Trask 168.5

    2. They were drafted in different years. Different quarterback classes. You yourself wrote today that the consensus is that Trask in the 2022 class would definitely be first round and likely the highest quarterback taken. So applying your second-round-is-third-round logic, that makes Trask a first rounder! LMAO.

    Tell us, Joe. Be honest. You would have much preferred “first rounder”(!) Justin Fields over Trask, right?

  52. JimmyJack Says:

    Joe what your suggesting sounds more like a total rebuild with trading away David, Smith or others.

    I dont think that would be the direction if the orginization could envision a 3-4+ year window at another Super Bowl in 2023. You keep your good players and can still contend for playoffs in a weak NFC South even with a mediocre QB.

    And my personal belief is that Bruce is very invested in setting up his successor into a really good situation…………..Ive heard all the rumors suggesting he might retire in the same year as Brady but I never believed it would ever go down like that.

    I just cant see the scenario; Bruce turning to Byron or Todd saying, “you take over, im leaving you no cap space to buy another QB, one QB on the roster that has no experience, your two best players on offensr just retired and you have 11 premiere free agents unsigned with not a bunch of money”

    I think this year is all about setting up the next HC with a QB. Even if its just putting us in position to make a big move next year.

  53. JimmyJack Says:

    Also if Im the Bucs I might look to trade D.Smith for completely unrelated reasons. We got his replacement on the other side of the line.

    Aint gonna happen but I wont miss an opportuity to trash Smith.

  54. Juergensen Says:

    JOE mocks that Trask was “drafted in the (third) second round.”

    Why don’t you tell that to second-rounder Brett Favre’s face? Better yet, why don’t you tell that to sixth-rounder Tom Brady’s face? And you run a football website? LMAO.

  55. Juergensen Says:

    Buc1987, what size is your Jameis jersey?

  56. Juergensen Says:

    Let’s have an honest poll.

    At the time of the 2021 draft, if both were available, who would you have taken?

    (a) Justin Fields

    (b) Kyle Trask

  57. Hodad Says:

    You’re right Joe, the 69 year old Arains isn’t going to want a second year player. That’s why Blaine Gabbert will be resigned, and start the season. Arains can’t wait for different FA QB to learn his system, which takes time to learn. Blaine Gabbert has been in this offense four years now. He’s got the size, and arm Arains covets. When are you going to admit the best FA QB for the Bucs has been in the building the last three years. Arains is going to give him his shot. You should too.

  58. tampabuscsbro Says:

    BASED JOE DOXING WHERE PEOPLE LIVE.

  59. Posey99 Says:

    “Quarterback rating may be the dumbest stat there is.”

    Tell that to the people voting Aaron Rodgers for MVP

  60. Joe Says:

    Tell us, Joe. Be honest. You would have much preferred “first rounder”(!) Justin Fields over Trask, right?

    Based on how NFL people evaluated the position? And where they want in the draft? And how they played their rookie seasons? Justin Fields.

  61. Jerry Says:

    If FAs won’t sign because of Trask, you think they will for guys like Bridgewater, Trubisky, or Cousins? You might as well start young guys than go with old timer journeymen.

    Green Bay will not want to trade Rodgers to an NFC team. Same with Seattle with Wilson or probably even the 49ers with JimmyG. Houston will want a ransom for Watson, and plus he’s facing suspension with 20+ women accusing him of misconduct. You think he’s an answer? Plus he hasn’t played in over a year. What shape is he in?

    Not quite sure what you expect to happen. The Bucs are one of 6 teams that are now desperate for a QB. And we don’t really have much ammo in draft picks compared to those other teams. We don’t pick until #27.

    We are going to struggle at QB for awhile. That’s the reality.

  62. Juergensen Says:

    “tampabuscsbro Says:
    February 10th, 2022 at 1:29 pm
    BASED JOE DOXING WHERE PEOPLE LIVE.”

    People losing arguments always resort to personal attacks.

  63. Juergensen Says:

    “Joe Says: And how they played their rookie seasons? Justin Fields.”

    Fields was atrocious his rookie season. Total bust. 36 sacks with all that “mobility”. 7 TDs to 10 INTs. He SUCKED. You prefer that over Trask who hasn’t played yet but has potential? Take up ballet, Joe.

  64. Joe Says:

    Fields was atrocious his rookie season.

    How was Trask?

  65. Juergensen Says:

    “Jerry Says:
    February 10th, 2022 at 1:39 pm
    If FAs won’t sign because of Trask, you think they will for guys like Bridgewater, Trubisky, or Cousins? You might as well start young guys than go with old timer journeymen.”

    Exactly right. Joe just wants to lay the groundwork to hate on Trask if he starts and a player leaves. And yet the latest news is that Brady left because of the BUCS COACHING STAFF! LMAO!

  66. Juergensen Says:

    “Joe Says:
    February 10th, 2022 at 1:46 pm
    Fields was atrocious his rookie season.

    How was Trask?”

    He didn’t get sacked 36 times and he’s slower than Fields!

    LMAO!

  67. tampabuscsbro Says:

    Man Joe would rather take the guy who crapped the bed worse then Mitch Trubiskiy ever did then taking a risk on Trask.

    That’s something really. It’s like Joe operates his thoughts on younger players on their draft stock and not much else.

  68. JimbobBucsFan Says:

    I agree with your central premise before having even had read everything here yet. We are going into rebuild mode if we don’t secure an excellent QB this off season.

    I’ll be back later.

  69. Anonymous Says:

    Listening to Laine talk about football is a waste of time. She doesn’t even know the rules

  70. Juergensen Says:

    Justin Fields had a horrible rookie season with da Bears. Sacked 36 times in 10 games, despite all that “mobility”. Threw more INTs than TDs. And yet, if Joe was Bucs GM, he would trade Trask for Fields because Fields was 5-star rated recruit in high school AND he was a first-rounder!

  71. Jaybucs Says:

    Window is not shut in NFC. Rodgers will go to Denver and NFC is wide open. Go all in on Watson and have your QB locked up for the future. Roster still has talent. Do not get a mid tier QB like cousins or Bridgewater. You will overpay and those guys will not keep 1 player in town.

  72. JimbobBucsFan Says:

    Seems to me Jenna Laine showed up in Tampa Bay shortly after TB did. Do you suppose she will be moving on to greener pastures soon?

  73. Posey99 Says:

    At the time of the 2021 draft, if both were available, who would you have taken?

    (a) Justin Fields

    (b) Kyle Trask

    The easy answer is B, Kyle Trask. But everybody wants Patrick Mahomes 2.0 even though the two QB’s playing in the super bowl this year are pocket passers. Doesn’t matter how hard you throw or how fast you run if there’s nothing between the shoulders on the football field.

  74. JimbobBucsFan Says:

    I’ve seen hints that Watson may be near settling his legal problems soon. Maybe he will be found behind “door number two” as a result of a trade deal.

  75. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Anybody who clamored for Johnny Football…..speak now….

  76. Defense Rules Says:

    Jerry … ‘If FAs won’t sign because of Trask, you think they will for guys like Bridgewater, Trubisky, or Cousins? You might as well start young guys than go with old timer journeymen.’

    Agreed. All Bucs’ FAs will show up at JL’s door wearing the same sign: ‘Show Us the Money’. Anyone who thinks that Godwin or Jenson or Suh or Whitehead or anyone is gonna sign on with us because we signed Garappolo or Watkins or Trubisky or whoever is deluding themselves. These guys are businessmen.

  77. Defense Rules Says:

    TBBF … ‘Anybody who clamored for Johnny Football…..speak now’.

    You’re tormenting Joe. Fun game isn’t it.

  78. steele Says:

    The all-in one more year strategy is full of obstacles. In addition to having to keep FAs, there are aging veterans who are in clear decline. The regression this season was obvious, and it wasn’t just injuries. It’s not as simple as inserting a veteran QB, and there aren’t any good ones of that caliber that can be had REALISTICALLY $.

    Even if Brady had stayed on, we would still be looking at complex problems with this team.

    It reminds me of the Seahawks. Win the SB, looking like a dynasty. Try for the repeat, cracks start showing, almost repeat but lose miserably at the goal line. Coaching problems in the wake of catastrophe, blame (Darrell Bevell= Todd Bowles), factions in the locker room, general mental malaise.

    This is the Year 3 problem.

  79. Captain Dan Lawrence Says:

    Hey, I understand one of the “Joes” likes to pick a QB, and ridicule anyone who says anything positive about some Other QB, and bring up Glennon, (seems like compensating) but if we got what that Joe wanted, we would have had Jonny Football! No thanks, I haven’t noticed that his QB instincts are any better than those he ridicules. Go BUCS!

  80. Hodad Says:

    Free agents are looking to get paid, it’s about the money, not the QB. Your opening day starter will be Blaine Gabbert backed up by Trask. Let it sink in.