“Soft PAC-12” Stunted Joe Tryon-Shoyinka’s Development (But Maybe Not)
October 7th, 2021
Growing.
Joe will never forget when Devin White was asked about Joe Tryon-Shoyinka in training camp.
Bucs coaches and players were singing hosannas about JTS and how talented he is even though he sat out the 2020 season due to COVID concerns.
White was respectful of JTS but didn’t toe the company line. White made it crystal clear the Bucs have established themselves as a fearsome run-stopping defense and there was no room for one-trick ponies. So if JTS wanted to be a full-blown member of the Bucs’ defensive fraternity, he had to learn to stop the run.
In that respect, Bucs outside linebackers coach Larry Foote said this week where JTS played, at Washington in the PAC-12, hurt his development.
Well, maybe not.
“He came from that soft PAC-12 league they really don’t play the run that much,” Foote said. “I’m just joking. But that’s the standard in that room.
“If you watch JPP (Jason Pierre-Paul) and Shaq [Barrett], those guys take a lot of pride in stopping the run. In the last couple of years, we were number one in the league so that’s our standard and he jumped right in with both feet. We expect that of him, and he’s taken on that challenge.”
Anyone who doubts that JTS isn’t man enough to play in the NFL, they only need to watch Sunday’s win over the Belicheats again.
It was cool to see the choreography between JTS and Vita Vea and how they manhandled various offensive linemen.
Who said the PAC-12 produces soft players? Not on the Bucs’ defense, that’s for sure.
October 7th, 2021 at 1:11 pm
He is definitely growing. Not so much of running himself out of “the play” in the Pats game like he has been doing in every game.
Good to see him get some sacks.
The comment made by Collingsworth kind of explains why Joe was running himself out of t”he play”. Chris mentioned about Joe T trying to just use his speed, and how there is way more to it if you want to be good at what you’re doing as a Linebacker, or any position for that matter.
But it was good to see improvement by Joe T.
GO BUCS!!!!!!
October 7th, 2021 at 1:15 pm
“White made it crystal clear the Bucs have established themselves as a fearsome run-stopping defense and there was no room for one-trick ponies.”
hahahaha, c’mon devin….
October 7th, 2021 at 1:15 pm
He honestly may not have a ceiling from an athletic standpoint. He can flat out get after it. The addition of his length and get off he could be a top 5 pass rusher in the future. Keep developing young man.
October 7th, 2021 at 1:16 pm
There was a sweep they tried running with Damien Harris and JTS blew up 3 blockers resulting in a loss of 3/4 yards. I think this young man is going to fit in just fine with out Defense.
October 7th, 2021 at 1:20 pm
JTS is a gift from COVID !
If he had played in a normal final year he may have been a first overall pick !
October 7th, 2021 at 1:24 pm
He did well against run. Great game for the young stud! Go back and watch game. A few times he was there in back field when running back had ball and gave nowhere to go
I mean a belichick team ran for -1 yards on a night of pouring down rain when you should mainly run the ball
October 7th, 2021 at 1:27 pm
That sack with Vita pushing two dudes was pretty sweet. That tackle had no idea what was coming at him. lol
October 7th, 2021 at 1:30 pm
JTS has a nice ceiling, great pick. When I first saw him I was immediately impressed at his speed rush, which will likely draw “false” flags from the refs until his reputation gets firmly established. He’s also stronger than he looks. What he needs is experience and countermoves. Quality OTs will use that speed against you by repeatedly pushing you to the outside, where your speed will take you out of the play. And of course experience and good recognition also helps as you’ll know when to drop into pass coverage or seal the edge.
October 7th, 2021 at 1:30 pm
Lol lol Vita is a walking & running Tsunami lol
October 7th, 2021 at 1:30 pm
Nice Bobby Buc!
October 7th, 2021 at 1:38 pm
When it came to the JTS Coming Out Party that occurred last Sunday, other than the sacks (obvious), the play against the toss was what did it for me. No hesitation, shoots upfield and takes up three blockers. Whole time working towards the ball carrier and allowing the team to play clean up. Great football play, as they say.
He still has a lot of room to grow, but I’m not worried. JPP is a natural talent, and Shaq has honed his skills over many years in the league working along some of the best. Those two are a great pair to have available to you as a rookie in the league.
Also, I LOVED the paring of Vita and JTS on the same side. His blitz play from the LB position is dope and his length in that flat zone / hook coverage definitely matters. He’s just more athletic than JPP and Shaq in that area, IMO (several of passes over Shaq’s head for sure). And you know those guys are animals.
More wild stunts, rushes and coverages to come as the defensive team gets to full health.
October 7th, 2021 at 2:00 pm
The way he was running around in that game against New England you would think he was Bobby Boucher looking for some ice cold H20!
October 7th, 2021 at 2:06 pm
Jason hsnt really had much luck drafting comers
We should spend a free agent this off season.
If we had a solid corners now we would be primed
October 7th, 2021 at 2:21 pm
Look I love Devin White, the man loves football and is a great leader. Guy is gd Ray Lewis against the run. Ask him to drop in to Zone coverage tho – Jesus. I’ll take swapping him out for a 50yr old Shelton Quarles
October 7th, 2021 at 2:21 pm
JTS looks promising as all hell. If he works out, it will be Licht’s first drafted outside pass rusher to do so and so far so good. Our defense has been in a rut, but I’m still excited about this guy and his future here.
October 7th, 2021 at 2:36 pm
JTS is loaded with speed & length….should be able to cause some real problems when he drops back into coverage…
Want to see some hands up from him and other Buc pass rushers……
October 7th, 2021 at 3:17 pm
Beyond JTS, only Darden has made it on the field. Week 3 for 3 snaps.
October 7th, 2021 at 3:33 pm
I’m waiting for Vea to line up as he does as fullback, but get the ball instead of lead blocking. I think he’s athletic enough to even catch one for a TD out of the backfield. Remember the fridge?, it’s coming.
October 7th, 2021 at 4:06 pm
The one thing Devin White don’t lack, is confidence, lol
October 7th, 2021 at 4:54 pm
Devin White is the second coming of Kwon Alexander and by that I mean constantly out of position and running past the QB. Tryon has more upside as a player.
October 7th, 2021 at 5:14 pm
FYI, Vita Vea also went to UW.
I heard he’s pretty good.
October 7th, 2021 at 5:16 pm
FYI, Justin Herbert went to UofO.
He’s not too bad.
October 7th, 2021 at 5:18 pm
FYI, Aaron Rodgers went to Cal.
He was last year’s MVP.
East coasters should do a little research before hating on the Pac12.
October 7th, 2021 at 6:07 pm
Wow. Is this what comes down too? Vea came from same college. What a joke
October 7th, 2021 at 6:54 pm
Well, guess what ?
Vita Vea is from that so called soft conference and exact same school as Joe Tryon.
October 7th, 2021 at 7:03 pm
Anybody that says that JTS opted out to take a year off is a lazy liar. He worked his tail off with some very good professional tutors to sharpen his game for the NFL. Look it up, it’s all on the record…just sayin’
October 7th, 2021 at 11:17 pm
“Vita Vea needs to learn to stop the run”- said no one ever. Go Huskies/Bucs!
October 8th, 2021 at 6:51 am
SB~LV Says: JTS is a gift from COVID !
True. He is the only good thing I can think of that came out of Covid.
October 8th, 2021 at 9:33 am
Get out of your feelings SlyPirate and Co he literally said he was joking. The joke was only about the fact that most teams of the PAC-12 do not run the ball as much as they throw it …
October 8th, 2021 at 11:18 am
Vita Vea is our best run defender… he’s from the PAC-10 as well… and same school as JTS.