“Soft PAC-12” Stunted Joe Tryon-Shoyinka’s Development (But Maybe Not)

October 7th, 2021


Joe will never forget when Devin White was asked about Joe Tryon-Shoyinka in training camp.

Bucs coaches and players were singing hosannas about JTS and how talented he is even though he sat out the 2020 season due to COVID concerns.

White was respectful of JTS but didn’t toe the company line. White made it crystal clear the Bucs have established themselves as a fearsome run-stopping defense and there was no room for one-trick ponies. So if JTS wanted to be a full-blown member of the Bucs’ defensive fraternity, he had to learn to stop the run.

In that respect, Bucs outside linebackers coach Larry Foote said this week where JTS played, at Washington in the PAC-12, hurt his development.

Well, maybe not.

“He came from that soft PAC-12 league they really don’t play the run that much,” Foote said. “I’m just joking. But that’s the standard in that room.

“If you watch JPP (Jason Pierre-Paul) and Shaq [Barrett], those guys take a lot of pride in stopping the run. In the last couple of years, we were number one in the league so that’s our standard and he jumped right in with both feet. We expect that of him, and he’s taken on that challenge.”

Anyone who doubts that JTS isn’t man enough to play in the NFL, they only need to watch Sunday’s win over the Belicheats again.

It was cool to see the choreography between JTS and Vita Vea and how they manhandled various offensive linemen.

Who said the PAC-12 produces soft players? Not on the Bucs’ defense, that’s for sure.

30 Responses to ““Soft PAC-12” Stunted Joe Tryon-Shoyinka’s Development (But Maybe Not)”

  1. August 1976 Buc Says:

    He is definitely growing. Not so much of running himself out of “the play” in the Pats game like he has been doing in every game.
    Good to see him get some sacks.
    The comment made by Collingsworth kind of explains why Joe was running himself out of t”he play”. Chris mentioned about Joe T trying to just use his speed, and how there is way more to it if you want to be good at what you’re doing as a Linebacker, or any position for that matter.
    But it was good to see improvement by Joe T.

    GO BUCS!!!!!!

  2. Bobby Buc Says:

    “White made it crystal clear the Bucs have established themselves as a fearsome run-stopping defense and there was no room for one-trick ponies.”

    hahahaha, c’mon devin….

  3. KnoxvilleBuc Says:

    He honestly may not have a ceiling from an athletic standpoint. He can flat out get after it. The addition of his length and get off he could be a top 5 pass rusher in the future. Keep developing young man.

  4. Nutterbuccer Says:

    There was a sweep they tried running with Damien Harris and JTS blew up 3 blockers resulting in a loss of 3/4 yards. I think this young man is going to fit in just fine with out Defense.

  5. SB~LV Says:

    JTS is a gift from COVID !
    If he had played in a normal final year he may have been a first overall pick !

  6. Bird Says:

    He did well against run. Great game for the young stud! Go back and watch game. A few times he was there in back field when running back had ball and gave nowhere to go

    I mean a belichick team ran for -1 yards on a night of pouring down rain when you should mainly run the ball

  7. ClodHopper Says:

    That sack with Vita pushing two dudes was pretty sweet. That tackle had no idea what was coming at him. lol

  8. PassingThru Says:

    JTS has a nice ceiling, great pick. When I first saw him I was immediately impressed at his speed rush, which will likely draw “false” flags from the refs until his reputation gets firmly established. He’s also stronger than he looks. What he needs is experience and countermoves. Quality OTs will use that speed against you by repeatedly pushing you to the outside, where your speed will take you out of the play. And of course experience and good recognition also helps as you’ll know when to drop into pass coverage or seal the edge.

  9. August 1976 Buc Says:

    Lol lol Vita is a walking & running Tsunami lol

  10. Mike C Says:

    Nice Bobby Buc!

  11. Bucdan Says:

    When it came to the JTS Coming Out Party that occurred last Sunday, other than the sacks (obvious), the play against the toss was what did it for me. No hesitation, shoots upfield and takes up three blockers. Whole time working towards the ball carrier and allowing the team to play clean up. Great football play, as they say.

    He still has a lot of room to grow, but I’m not worried. JPP is a natural talent, and Shaq has honed his skills over many years in the league working along some of the best. Those two are a great pair to have available to you as a rookie in the league.

    Also, I LOVED the paring of Vita and JTS on the same side. His blitz play from the LB position is dope and his length in that flat zone / hook coverage definitely matters. He’s just more athletic than JPP and Shaq in that area, IMO (several of passes over Shaq’s head for sure). And you know those guys are animals.

    More wild stunts, rushes and coverages to come as the defensive team gets to full health.

  12. Mike Says:

    The way he was running around in that game against New England you would think he was Bobby Boucher looking for some ice cold H20!

  13. Destinjohnny Says:

    Jason hsnt really had much luck drafting comers
    We should spend a free agent this off season.
    If we had a solid corners now we would be primed

  14. Gofortheface30 Says:

    Look I love Devin White, the man loves football and is a great leader. Guy is gd Ray Lewis against the run. Ask him to drop in to Zone coverage tho – Jesus. I’ll take swapping him out for a 50yr old Shelton Quarles

  15. Buczilla Says:

    JTS looks promising as all hell. If he works out, it will be Licht’s first drafted outside pass rusher to do so and so far so good. Our defense has been in a rut, but I’m still excited about this guy and his future here.

  16. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    JTS is loaded with speed & length….should be able to cause some real problems when he drops back into coverage…

    Want to see some hands up from him and other Buc pass rushers……

  17. SlyPirate Says:

    Beyond JTS, only Darden has made it on the field. Week 3 for 3 snaps.

  18. Hodad Says:

    I’m waiting for Vea to line up as he does as fullback, but get the ball instead of lead blocking. I think he’s athletic enough to even catch one for a TD out of the backfield. Remember the fridge?, it’s coming.

  19. The Beer Whisperer Says:

    The one thing Devin White don’t lack, is confidence, lol

  20. westernbuc Says:

    Devin White is the second coming of Kwon Alexander and by that I mean constantly out of position and running past the QB. Tryon has more upside as a player.

  21. SlyPirate Says:

    FYI, Vita Vea also went to UW.

    I heard he’s pretty good.

  22. SlyPirate Says:

    FYI, Justin Herbert went to UofO.

    He’s not too bad.

  23. SlyPirate Says:

    FYI, Aaron Rodgers went to Cal.

    He was last year’s MVP.

    East coasters should do a little research before hating on the Pac12.

  24. Lamarcus Says:

    Wow. Is this what comes down too? Vea came from same college. What a joke

  25. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    Well, guess what ?
    Vita Vea is from that so called soft conference and exact same school as Joe Tryon.

  26. Steve Burke Says:

    Anybody that says that JTS opted out to take a year off is a lazy liar. He worked his tail off with some very good professional tutors to sharpen his game for the NFL. Look it up, it’s all on the record…just sayin’

  27. Brent Says:

    “Vita Vea needs to learn to stop the run”- said no one ever. Go Huskies/Bucs!

  28. AlabamaBucsFan Says:

    SB~LV Says: JTS is a gift from COVID !

    True. He is the only good thing I can think of that came out of Covid.

  29. Buc-em-up84 Says:

    Get out of your feelings SlyPirate and Co he literally said he was joking. The joke was only about the fact that most teams of the PAC-12 do not run the ball as much as they throw it …

  30. Brandon Says:

    Vita Vea is our best run defender… he’s from the PAC-10 as well… and same school as JTS.