Jon Gruden To Be Removed From Ring Of Honor
October 12th, 2021
There will be more to say in the next edition of the “Ira Kaufman Podcast.” Until then, here is the statement in full from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. It’s on the decision to remove the first Bucs coach to win a Super Bowl from the team’s Ring of Honor in the wake of repulsive e-mails Jon Gruden wrote after his days coaching the Bucs.
STATEMENT FROM THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS
“The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have advocated for purposeful change in the areas of race relations, gender equality, diversity and inclusion for many years. While we acknowledge Jon Gruden’s contributions on the field, his actions go against our core values as an organization. Therefore, he will no longer continue to be a member of the Buccaneers Ring of Honor.”
October 12th, 2021 at 6:05 pm
Good.
Words and actions have consequences.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:10 pm
Welcome to The Ring of Dishonor…this is like a wildfire with a side of jet fuel.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:10 pm
So lame ! What’s next ? The statue of him in One Buc Place???
October 12th, 2021 at 6:11 pm
BRING ON THE COMMENTS.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:12 pm
Total BS. Pete Rose treatment on steroids.
Next thing you know Dungy gets in the back.
Cancel Culture surely sucks.
Let’s go Brandon!!
October 12th, 2021 at 6:15 pm
I LIKE IT
Their helmets and end zone say “End Racism”. It would be hypocritical to endorse Gruden in the Ring of Honor and post “End Racism” within the same stadium.
This sends a clear message to the NFL players, fans, and community where the organization stands on this issue.
Good move.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:15 pm
not a surprise when you consider he told the owner to perform a sexual act on him. That alone would have me stomp you a new one.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:16 pm
The statue in the lobby of one buc is next
October 12th, 2021 at 6:17 pm
I’m happy
October 12th, 2021 at 6:19 pm
October 12th, 2021 at 6:19 pm
Absolutely needed to be done , our players walk past his statue everyday before practice as well & should be removed . How can u tell grown men who are Mostly African American to honor that trash statue knowing what gruden stands for .
GoBucs!
October 12th, 2021 at 6:19 pm
There’s no such thing as cancel culture. Just companies knowing who opens their wallets and purses to trade hard earned dollars for entertainment and products.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:19 pm
The more I think about it, the crazier it seems.
Who is next? Sapp, Brooks? Are we kneeling for the National Anthem?
Total BS move
October 12th, 2021 at 6:19 pm
Grabs some popcorn…..
October 12th, 2021 at 6:20 pm
I suppose if someone in the Ring of Honor says one of the Glazers should suck him off then you can’t sit there and take it as an owner. That said, Sapp has said and done way worse in public. Antoinio Brown is on the Bucs roster. The NFL is not a league of choirboys but Chucky is made out to be a pariah.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:20 pm
Cancel culture sucks is a slogan, racism sucks is truth.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:20 pm
slypirate I do not know if you read the emails, but gruden is taking a beating for much more than racism. Go look at what he called michael sam. BTW…he now has an openly gay player on the raiders. Go look at what he said about female refs. Go look at the fact they were sending nude photos of women and btw two of them were cheerleaders of the washington team. Not appropriate at all. He is being taken down for calling the commisioner the p word. He is being brought down because he told the bucs owner to perform a sex act on him and allen responded glazer would take you up on that offer. Its bigger than just racism. Gruden had a lot of sloppy emails that went all over the place. Thats why he is coming down.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:20 pm
Gruden did say in an email that one of the Glazers would probably give a ! But let’s get real here, who hasn’t said something bad behind someone else’s back.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:22 pm
Why stop there? Perhaps Tampa should forfeit the first Lombardy trophy as well.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:22 pm
Glaziers telling Gruden to suck this?
October 12th, 2021 at 6:23 pm
Hmm….if the Bucs/Glazers are going to talk about core values then they are going to have a hard time explaining how Sapp stays in the ring of honor considering his off the field issues.
Then again, this was only a matter of time after Gru wrote what he did in the email 🤷🏻♂️
October 12th, 2021 at 6:24 pm
Pete told u imbeciles that this would happen
October 12th, 2021 at 6:25 pm
JIMMINY CHRISTMAS!
October 12th, 2021 at 6:27 pm
If they are gonna do this to Jon Gruden, then don’t stop there, go after Sapp as well. And please don’t forget about Urban Liar too ?
October 12th, 2021 at 6:28 pm
Well, the next step then is to remove Gruden’s likeness from the Moment of Victory Statue at One Buc and then let’s send back the 2002 Lombardi trophy back to New York, erase it from history. Sigh.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:29 pm
Take down Sapp too!
October 12th, 2021 at 6:29 pm
I am no Gruden fan but there is something very disturbing about how these emails were deliberately leaked to the media. Yet no one cares. Until it’s their own emails.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:30 pm
Sticks and Stones will break my bones.
But names will never hurt me.
All I gotta say bout this.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:30 pm
Gruden is a tiny bully who finally got busted. Everyone wants to beat his ass
October 12th, 2021 at 6:30 pm
Lol run your mouth about one of the team owners and those types of things will happen. I always thought he was overrated anyway. He is barely over .500 as a coach.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:31 pm
Jon Gruden is radioactive and will be likely for the rest of his life. He has no honor. The statements about the Glazers alone could never be tolerated. The world is so brief for us, why put that toxic sh*t in writing! I agree with this!
October 12th, 2021 at 6:32 pm
Well..I mean..hmmm..Does that mean Bruce Arians is the first coach to win a Bucs Super Bowl?
October 12th, 2021 at 6:33 pm
Come on! It was Dungy’s team. That legendary defense was build by Dungy. Yeah Dungy is a true leader not a fraud like Gruden.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:35 pm
He should have beaten his wife instead. Or kicked in his relatives front door. Or groped a woman in an Uber. Or killed dogs by the hundreds. He’d already have a bust in Canton.
NFL equals Neatly Framed Lies.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:36 pm
Wasn’t the worst thing Warren Sapp did was he didn’t pay hookers that were black mailing him to pay them more?
October 12th, 2021 at 6:36 pm
WHAT A JOKE.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:36 pm
Sorry Joe Warren Sapp didn’t pay Escorts when they were black mailing him.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:37 pm
His statue is next and in the future they will put a smiley face over his face when they show SB37 highlights. He is a pariah, just built a house in Vegas and can’t go out in public for awhile. Stay out of the hood Jon.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:38 pm
AB called his white GM a cracker only a few years ago, yet he is still payed by the Glaziers. Don’t expect people to respect your rules unless they are enforced equally.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:39 pm
Tommywins….or assaulted over 20 massage therapists.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:39 pm
Every action has consequences. It is what it is.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:39 pm
Glad to see OJ Simpson still in Buffalo’s Ring of Honor.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:40 pm
He’s a football coach. Not the president. Can we just all realize that nobody, absolutely is perfect. Keep throwing stones without lookin in the mirror folks….
October 12th, 2021 at 6:40 pm
AB has been a model citizen and a hell of a player. Are you even watchin’?
October 12th, 2021 at 6:40 pm
Am i blocked joe?
October 12th, 2021 at 6:41 pm
Gruden dug his own grave
October 12th, 2021 at 6:41 pm
Little Jonny was the spark this team needed to get over the hump. He brought ‘juice’ when it was sorely needed…but things imploded VERY quickly…like the moment he was presented the Lombardi he was ego run amok. We were never really a legitimate contender following the collapse against the Colts. Things got darker and darker from there and then Allen only made things worse. Where’s the call to arms from his former players—not named Tim Brown? This is all to say Jon earned the right to have his name up and there, then earned the right to have it stripped off. This is on him.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:42 pm
No worries, Gruden is the next Governor of this COMPLETELY SCREWED UP STATE
October 12th, 2021 at 6:42 pm
Actually, the team was built by Sam Wych when he drafted sapp and brooks in the same draft. I believe dunn, alstott and lynch also were drafted by wyche.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:43 pm
Good riddance. Despicable people deserve despicable things.
Keep in mind this all stems because gruden was part of the email chain passing around topless non consensual photos of cheerleaders.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:44 pm
NFL trying to bury all the corruption and bad things done by Snyder and the WFT organization by making Gruden the face of the story. And what Gruden said was wrong, don’t get it twisted. I’m not minimizing any of that.
But the attempt to shift the whole thing onto him is transparent AF.
The reality is the NFL doesn’t want to do anything to Snyder, bc owners are a protected class.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:45 pm
Gruden was overrated anyway. He won with dungys team. I thought it was premature to put him in when they did. Bruce deserves Johnny’s spot.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:50 pm
Kyle Says, You are clueless.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:50 pm
@Unbelievable I believe you are 100% correct
October 12th, 2021 at 6:50 pm
Tc it’s funny how people forget about the foundation Wyche built. And the defensive guru that brought the Tampa 2. Wasn’t Dungy. Dungy was a good coach, but he didn’t build the team from nothing. And Don’t forget about Rich McKay.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:51 pm
If Sapp stays in, the question is why? Why is he treated differently? Is it because of the color of his skin?
October 12th, 2021 at 6:51 pm
And gruden’s in my ring of honor over those greedy glazer kids 7 days a week. Real people judge by actions not words.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:52 pm
If Sapp stays is because of what you can see in the tape any day of the week for the rest of your life.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:56 pm
Booooo. Glazer can go S a D!!
October 12th, 2021 at 6:57 pm
Oh f-off.
Basically all these POS are proving that Gruden was right about them.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:58 pm
TBBF still loves Chucky
October 12th, 2021 at 6:59 pm
OJ Simpson murdered his ex-wife and a male friend. He is still in the Bills Ring of Honor.
Jon Gruden said bad words in an email 11 years ago.
In America, you can literally kill 2 people and be honored by your former team, but you’re permanently deleted for offending minorities.
October 12th, 2021 at 6:59 pm
@unbelievable, exactly. Easy face to frame
October 12th, 2021 at 7:01 pm
Anyone remember the Jimmy the Greek interview? I wasn’t even old enough to drive on my own, but, I knew immediately that “He gone”.
Yes, Jimmy did it during a television interview, but, it comes down to being self aware of the climate of culture (and current technology) around you.
Use a burner phones and email accounts for unofficial business. I wouldn’t even trust an encrypted app, screenshots or taking a pic of the screen can do you in. But, even 10 years ago, Charles should have known better than to send anything comparable to what is being released to someone’s company email account. If he could have taken an hour out of his 18 hour days studying film at the FFCA office to get acquainted with modern technology, he could still be berating a low level Raiders analyst right this second.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:01 pm
what is really funny is people feeling it under their own skin
October 12th, 2021 at 7:03 pm
Time to change the name of the team, Buccaneers are pirates, they’re literally know for their raping and looting, and even worse than that, they were often straight white men…
Time to cancel the Bucs, maybe we can change it to the Tampa Bay Fruits instead, maybe accelerate the firing of all the female cheerleaders and replace them with men in dresses!
Let’s be the most woke team in the NFL. YAY!
October 12th, 2021 at 7:03 pm
Not surprised on announcement. Their statement says it all and it follows their football brand. They have been NFL leaders advocating for diverse inclusion.
I respect the Glazer brand so not surprised. Some will call it cancel culture but really it is anti-brand.
Personally, I care less whether he stayed in the ring of honor or not. I will fondly remember the 1st Super Bowl from Tampa and will not forget the contributions of all parts of that team.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:03 pm
Bye bye Chucky, your former players HATE YOU
October 12th, 2021 at 7:03 pm
I can’t say – what a joke??? Really??? WOW. Smdh
October 12th, 2021 at 7:04 pm
This is terrible but indicative of the world we live in. The spineless have taken over.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:04 pm
This was about money.
Corporate sponsors and tv network pressure .
Fans (People) were not consulted.
Welcome to 2021 USA
October 12th, 2021 at 7:04 pm
Time to release everyone’s emails and private conversations. Let us ALL have our privacy invaded. It seems oxymoronic to me that several hundred years ago, people risked their lives to fight for each others individual liberties and now we are at a point where individuals are petitioning the government and corporate entities to execute force against individuals on their behalf. Don’t misconstrue my intent. I do not support what Gruden did, but all that comes to my mind is the following quote.
“First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.” – Martin Niemöller
October 12th, 2021 at 7:05 pm
NFL playing god again. Some really great stories in the NFL about people turning their life around and getting second chances (Bucs have a few of them)
October 12th, 2021 at 7:05 pm
I personally don’t have a problem with people saying what they think. Its my choice to listen to them or not.
The fact that people are so easily offended is what concerns me. However, one simple word can describe people that are easily offended.
On the flip side, one simple word can also describe the person describing the person that is so easily offended. Which than offends the original offender.
So my question is simple, why make rules for one offender and not the other. Are the both not being offensive?
October 12th, 2021 at 7:06 pm
So let me understand, the problem is not that OJ is there, the problem is that Gruden is not? If the Bills can’t process that’s their deal. I’m happy Bucs are moving forward with this. It may be a little early I’ll say that. They could have waited until the dust settled but in any case I think it is important given the culture we currently have on this team.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:06 pm
Gruden went at the Glazers. This was easy. Just like he went at Goodell, so the NFL (Roger Goodell) took it personal and started to leak the email info they found forcing the Raiders hand. Bryan Glazer took Gruden saying he could give him brain personal.
This was easy to see coming. Might have still happened if Gruden didn’t make mention of the Glazers, but was an absolute happening once he did.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:07 pm
webster Says:
October 12th, 2021 at 6:15 pm
not a surprise when you consider he told the owner to perform a sexual act on him. That alone would have me stomp you a new one.
__________
But I thought your kind abhorred violence?
A new what BTW?
October 12th, 2021 at 7:08 pm
HeyItsAdam – What a great point. Slit some white womans throat, kill her boyfriend, that’s OK. But say naughty words in a private email a decade ago – you must be removed from society.
Well maybe the NBA can follow suite. In 2011, Kobe used the ‘f–‘ word, now he’s held up as a hero. He must be cancelled too. Not for the chick in Denver, nope, but because he said something offensive, and we all know, words hurt.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:08 pm
We all had to have known this was coming, Joes.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:10 pm
Things don’t matter as much unless it’s personal to you.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:11 pm
Again people who say they shouldn’t cancel Chucky because of OJ but then say they should cancel Kobe have serious flaws in their logic. In any case, there is one word you guys need and that is criterion. It is the faculty of exercising judgement.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:12 pm
You don’t think Malcolm knew about his son, told Chucky not to let him hang around the team showers? Come on.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:13 pm
All you stooges who think Gruden is just being a typical male are idiots. This was something that has been going on with Gruden for a decade and I guarantee you it’s just the tip of the iceberg. Do any of you have wives? What do you do, drag them around by the hair? Do you really believe this is “boys being boys?” What on earth do you do for a living if you believe this is acceptable behavior? It simply is NOT!
October 12th, 2021 at 7:13 pm
“JayBucsBoi Says:
October 12th, 2021 at 7:10 pm
Things don’t matter as much unless it’s personal to you.”
Nail on the head
October 12th, 2021 at 7:14 pm
Flyin Dutchman – hey stupid, we’re saying if you’re going to cancel one person because of words, then go after everyone. The fact that went right over your head just shows the level or idiot we’re dealing with when talking to the pro-cancel cowards.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:14 pm
dumb move.. Gruden STILL coached this team to superbowl.. GO WOKE GET BROKE..
Bad move bucs.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:15 pm
wow this is just wild…
remember for a while there all we had to hang our hat on was that 2002 superbowl team…
with the direction the bucs are rolling now, with brady and the way we move as an organization, that 2002 team is getting a little bit dwarfed…
we are now america’s team…
the glazers said fugg that – brian suggs nothing!
#TheyWerentHavingIt
October 12th, 2021 at 7:16 pm
The correct response!
October 12th, 2021 at 7:16 pm
^ LOL, please.
This won’t affect the Bucs financially in any way whatsoever.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:16 pm
Alvin – You’re just a far left cupcake who hates white people, you’ve made that clear over and over again with your random outbursts, like in the middle of a game when you’ll suddenly start talking about how much you hate white people. If Gruden was black, you’d be saying the exact opposite, and we all know it. That’s why you’re a garbage person.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:17 pm
That was directed @John
October 12th, 2021 at 7:17 pm
Peacetime America.
We just look for things to fight about.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:18 pm
Delusional intelligence
That’s way too deep. Gruden’s an a$$hole.. always has been. Karma. Is he the first one to tell someone his ex boss can suck him? Nope. But if you’re dumb enough or egotistical enough to do it on an office email, and call the Head of the multi billion dollar company you work for a “P” and an “F” and it gets out, don’t be surprised when you get canned.
It’s nothing to do with woke or cancel culture. He shot his mouth off ( again) and pissed off the wrong people.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:18 pm
Lets make this even more simple. Why make rules that go against our God given right and our constitution?
Freedom of speech has no limits. Although it can have consequence’s, an opinion, response or emotion/feeling is not something that is punishable.
This Gruden take down is akin to what these same (insert word that may be offensive) have tried to do with all of our historical figures that they suddenly are offended by.
I feel bad for Chucky, he is allowed to say whatever he wants. Some of which was ignorant, stupid, funny, amusing and inspiring.
HIS ACTIONS are all anyone should care about. To those actions, I say he has been a fun and colorful character to watch and follow. Its to bad he is now being put to pasture.
I hope Dr. Dre, Em and Snoop Dog give him a shout out in one of the lines at the Super Bowl.
RIP Coach and Thank You.
They may take your life but the will never take your….. SB Ring.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:19 pm
The End is near.
I’m actually agreeing with Fancy Man.
The Fonz did say it would take a cataclysmic event to unite us.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:19 pm
Look Rod I enjoy reading your comments overall and I have never cursed at you. You are the one making the case about canceling those who do. Not everything is a slippery slope. It’s not only about words. It’s about conduct over time. Besides and that’s my opinion, I believe coaches need to be judged by a higher standard than players.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:19 pm
Spot on Capt. Tim
October 12th, 2021 at 7:23 pm
I am thinking of Tony Dungy who always said to wait a few days in such situations
October 12th, 2021 at 7:24 pm
Jmarkbuc is on point. Sometimes you eat the bear until the bear eats you. RIP Grudone ✌️
October 12th, 2021 at 7:25 pm
Alvin, lol. I hope that dads would raise their daughters not to send topless photos to men.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:25 pm
That’s too bad. 😔
October 12th, 2021 at 7:28 pm
“Lets Roll Says:
October 12th, 2021 at 7:18 pm
Freedom of speech has no limits.”
This is unequivocally an untrue statement.
It also has nothing to do with something involving a privately owned business. Gruden sent at least one email to Bruce Allen’s work email address. And, on the other end, Bowlcut Davis, and all private entities ,are about a making profit, and have every right to hire or fire (encourage to resign) anyone who might affect the bottom in a negative way. This has zero to do with First Amendment.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:29 pm
Maybe we could forfiet the Fish game as reparations.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:31 pm
Flyin Dutchman – A higher standard? Literally the only thing that happened was Gruden, when he wasn’t a coach, when he didn’t work for the NFL, sent emails in private using offensive language, because that’s what MEN do when talking to other MEN, because it’s funny.
He wasn’t a coach, he didn’t work for the NFL and there are zero allegations of discrimination.
You’re literally off on every single point you’re attempting to make.
I have zero tolerance for cancel mob wokersters who think it’s OK to cancel people for things they say in private – or even public. I want a world where I know what other people actually think and believe, not a world where people are afraid to say unapproved language in their own homes because a ‘smart’ device is listening and recording, and if some cupcake in San Francisco decides, they can ruin someone’s life by ‘leaking’ something or finding comments you wrote in a friends yearbook in 1989. When you support public lynchings like this, you’re not a good guy, you’re literally a bad guy.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:34 pm
Let’s Go Brandon!
October 12th, 2021 at 7:34 pm
Love and Warrick Dunn – This is you, this is the world you’re most comfortable in, because you’re not an American, you’re a Stalinist…
Kremlin counts on informers to keep Soviet society in line
The Kremlin is on a major law-and-order drive, drawing on police, civilian militiamen, and a figure long prominent in Soviet life: the informer. Official concern over public drunkenness and street crime – and other ”antisocial” acts like absences from work – has been building for several years. Yet new Soviet leader Yuri Andropov has from the start made ”social order” a particular priority…. The vigilant civilian simply marks one of various categories of disturbances listed on the card – such as drunkenness or playing hooky from work – and names the offender. The informant need not sign his name.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:36 pm
Lmmfao Gruden is the low hanging fruit. He wasn’t sending the emails to himself. This is a total cover-up to take the heat off of Synder. What Gruden said was wrong along with the pictures that were being sent. He deserves what’s going on but he’s actually the scapegoat in this. How are you investigating things going on within The WFT and come out finding stuff that Gruden did but no mention of all the others that were part of the email or that responded. I’m sure he’ll get a nice ✉ of $ for taking the fall.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:37 pm
I’m not sure what the consequences should’ve been for Gruden, but this seems like a quick trigger… like maybe the Glazers were looking for an excuse to remove him since he’s been pretty disrespectful towards them. I’m a little surprised that this decision came so quickly though.
I don’t feel bad for Gruden. He’s always been an overrated coach, and a disaster as a talent evaluator. He only had one good season as our coach, and his overall record was very average.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:37 pm
@Love and Warrick Dunn
I get the work email angle. Which is why it should of been handled privately. .
As soon as it was made public it becomes open for debate and in fact changes the argument your making from a private matter to a public matter.
Gruden should now sue the NFL for deformation of character. No one knows the context of these emails and certainly no one ever will. Because it will remain private.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:38 pm
Let’s Go Brandon!!
October 12th, 2021 at 7:41 pm
Rod
Do you love your boss? If you don’t, then walk into his office and call him a p*ssy. It’s your right to say whatever you want. See how that goes.
Maybe you say it to another employee privately, but human nature being what it is, it gets back to him…
Either way.. same result. Nothing to do with “woke”. Your boss has the right to act in anyway he feels too..
October 12th, 2021 at 7:41 pm
So imagine winning employee of the year for your company (wait before I finish), OJ Simpson was not found guilty of murder), I digress, you own a company and you have plaques of all your employees of the year. The employee in let’s say 2015 begins to not be as productive, you fire the employee but on the way out he tells everyone how bad of an employer you are, that you can kick rocks (or in JG terms suck my **** and kiss my a$$), does that employee stay on your wall, what say you?
October 12th, 2021 at 7:44 pm
Not since Jimmy the Greek
October 12th, 2021 at 7:45 pm
Is this about the suck my .. thing? Lol
October 12th, 2021 at 7:46 pm
Also does anyone get that Gruden likely has lost some credibility with his team, the locker room, what a major distraction for the players, but Urban Myer so glad he is from up under the microscope. There will be players looking at the coach with the side eye. But Chucky dolls should be flying off the shelf, so get your collector’s item now
October 12th, 2021 at 7:46 pm
This country used to be great enough to brush off private comments made between two consenting adults. Apparently, we’re no longer so great of a country to understand that everyone has made off-color jokes and innuendo of the locker room variety. Well, whatever. If Joel Glazer (or whichever one it was) can’t take a joke, screw ‘em.
As others above have said, “Let’s go Brandon!”
October 12th, 2021 at 7:48 pm
On the plus side, Rich Bisaccia finally gets his shot as a head coach.
I always liked that guy…
October 12th, 2021 at 7:49 pm
Been having fun this season…then…Social Justice strikes again.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:50 pm
@rrsrq
Great analogy, if it happens privately, my answer is no. If it happens publicly, my answer is yes.
See how this argument changes based on private vs public.
What the NFL did to him is a crime, compared to what he said about them.
Honestly, I have cussed out my bosses on more than one occasion with a mixed bag of results. All depends on how easily my boss was offended.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:51 pm
You want a world where bla bla bla? I lost you Rod. We are talking Gruden, Ring of Honor, guy got burned. You don’t like the world we live in. Grow up
October 12th, 2021 at 7:52 pm
He should be removed for the sheer brazen stupidity of writing that crap on work emails. By the way, this isn’t cancel culture. Cancel culture is attempting to prevent Tony Dungy from working on Sunday Night Football because of clearly articulated Christian beliefs about marriage. Gruden’s rhetoric is disgustingly crude, spiteful, has never been appropriate in a professional setting, and is the sort of thing you expect from a guy who thinks that rules of basic decency don’t apply to him.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:53 pm
@ClodHopper:
Chances are Gruden said “Byran Glazer can blow me.”
That bad blood never left Gruden’s system.
I liked Chucky, but he went way, way too far, and Bruce Allen was a pure idiot for using the team mail server for those chats.
Lot’s O’Lessons to be learned from this situation…
October 12th, 2021 at 7:53 pm
HC Grover Says:
October 12th, 2021 at 7:49 pm
Yeah, gawd forbid racists and bigots should ever be held accountable for their behavior.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:54 pm
Glazers don’t play around. Good move.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:56 pm
Rod – Kobe got away with calling a gay man a f – g because his skin color was the correct hue. We’re so consumed by correctness we’re blind to weakness, or in many cases now embracing weakness.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:58 pm
New NFL theme..
Are you ready for some politics!
Yuk.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:58 pm
“Rod Munch Says:
October 12th, 2021 at 7:34 pm
Love and Warrick Dunn – This is you, this is the world you’re most comfortable in, because you’re not an American, you’re a Stalinist…”
So, Rod, in fact, what you are saying is that you want the government to dictate how private entities run their businesses.
Because, no one in the government forced Jon Gruden to resign, no law on the books say he can’t say what he wants to say.
He did. And the private sector felt it was better for their bottomline to not have him dragging down their business.
Question for you? Should any one NFL team be forced to sign Colin Kap? Yes, what he did what was on the field, but, in a court room, by sending an email to a corporate account amounts to exactly the same thing legally.
Honestly, you are the one that sounds like a socialist. Why do you want to interfere in the decisions of a privately held business? I thought this country was a market economy? (it’s not in reality, but, for the sake of this discussion), so, it appears there’s one person arguing that govt should interfere in a private company’s actions, and it’s not me.
Some of you should check out a short breakdown of what the First Amendment truly covers.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:58 pm
He’s a complete idiot. Control your thoughts you deserve to be chastised. Mocking black folks who make up 75 % of you roster.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:59 pm
The happiest guy right now is Urban Meyer. This news is totally making the nation forget about his stuff.
October 12th, 2021 at 7:59 pm
BTW – I’ve never been a Gruden fan. Always thought he was an asshole who screwed Alstott’s career cuz Alstott wasn’t his guy. I’ll always defend his right to say moronic things though.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:01 pm
Perhaps live microphones should be in use on any given sunday during any nfl game. Cover them ears choir boys.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:01 pm
You people do know OJ was found “not guilty” right? Buffalo has no grounds to remove him from their Ring of Honor 🤦♂️
October 12th, 2021 at 8:02 pm
even though nothing was done for the racial trope, I knew once it was reported he used the F word he was a goner… as Dave Chapel said you can kill a black person & get away with it but you better not hurt a gay person feelings LOL
October 12th, 2021 at 8:04 pm
AND I GUESS EVERYONE ELSE ARE SAINTS , OR JUST AIN’T GOT CAUGHT YET ,
I SUPPOSE YOU ALL GOT A CLEAR PATH TO HEAVEN TOO …
October 12th, 2021 at 8:07 pm
Cancel culture sucks. Lord forbid anyone makes a mistake and get crucified for it
October 12th, 2021 at 8:10 pm
You people: “Goddamn cancel culture!”
Also you people: “HEY! These insanely different situations & people that don’t follow my same political beliefs should be canceled!!!!”
Legit can’t make this stuff up it’s so funny & ironic. 🤦♂️
October 12th, 2021 at 8:12 pm
I guess those email comments on the Glazers didn’t sit well
October 12th, 2021 at 8:15 pm
Feel sorry for our team who has to deal with this.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:16 pm
Look Rod not everyone who disagrees with you is a wokester nor every man uses his private time to entertain such thoughts. Regardless of it, Gruden did wanted to get back to the NFL as a coach and the leaking of such comments made his position untenable. Bucs are doing the right thing by taking him out. He has become as he himself put it “a distraction”. Go Bucs!
October 12th, 2021 at 8:16 pm
@Love and Warrick Dunn
You do realize the the NFL holds the same legal classification as all Main Stream News sources right?
They “Entertainment Businesses”.
Sooooooo, yeah never mind.
“The A Team” is my favorite Entertainment Show of all TIME though. Mr. T always Pittied the Fool.
Talk about a glorified BULLY. Hope they don’t take him down, “Gruden Style”.
Which ironically is the name of 50’s new single with Dr. Dre
October 12th, 2021 at 8:17 pm
Gruden brought honor to this city in 2002. He brought us to the top of the football world.
They havd a Walter Payton award to honor core values, and guess what? Most fans couldnt name you more then 1 or 2 Walter Payton award winners…………..We remember greatness on the football field first and foremost. The rest it TV drama.
But if youre going to make the Ring of Honor about moral values then be consistent. As many here pointed out our own Ring of Honor doesnt meet the standards of core values and neither does most teams(maybe all). Dont hand me a two faced decision and call it your values……..Heck, come out and say Chucky ticked you off and your ripping his name off just because you can. I could respect that.
Moral values? Yeah sure. I dont believe for a second your moral values would prevent you from making any move that would sell tickets, merchandice or prime time games.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:18 pm
Cancel General Patton
October 12th, 2021 at 8:19 pm
The WFT investigation is making a whole lot of people sweat around the league.
As a well known person once said “Whatever you have said in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have whispered behind closed doors will be shouted from the housetops for all to hear!”
Integrity should indeed matter.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:20 pm
Cancel culture isn’t about race. It’s about power.
Nothing was gonna happen to Gruden when it was just about race.
Dungy, Tirico, and Tim Brown gladly went to bat for him.
It was if the leaker of the emails thought for sure the DeMaurice Smith email was the worst. And when nothing happened they leaked the other emails.
When the stuff about women and LGBT came out, then you see who has the real power.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:21 pm
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Gruden is a horses a$$. He touched all the bases with his foolish rants. Hard to come back from that when you’re in the public eye.
I’ve said some dumb things in my life, but I don’t make $10 million a year running a billion dollar organization. The microscope zooms in pretty close on your life at that point.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:22 pm
TOTAL B. S.
we all know what he said was wrong. It doesn’t change the fact that he belongs there.
Every ring of honor and Hall of Fame should include everyone that belongs for what they did on the field, not off. it’s not based on moral and ethics.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:22 pm
There’s an easy fix for this. Have the NFL erect an octagon. Put Gruden inside it. One by one every one he offended gets in for a single three minute round. You know, like how we solved problems when we were kids. Hell, Goodall could sell tickets and make a few bucks.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:25 pm
@King C
A pseudo-race war < actual genetic-science war?
October 12th, 2021 at 8:26 pm
Gruden didnt tweet his remarks he sent them as a joke to his friend in confidence . His intent wasnt too hurt anyone. His privacy was violated
October 12th, 2021 at 8:26 pm
Salem witch trials
Terrifying times are nigh
October 12th, 2021 at 8:27 pm
Wyche brought in the pieces, but Coach Dungy brought in the winning culture and accountability. Dungy is good dude, one my favorite coaches.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:35 pm
Do you think telling Bruce Allen that one of the Glazer boys could play his piccolo had something to do with it?
October 12th, 2021 at 8:37 pm
For those who cry over this, listen. That’s them people sh!t (Glazers team.) Now if someone told you to suck one, your not gonna remove all traces of this fool from your place of business? FOH
I’m glad it came down. Hopefully they pull the statue at One Buc Place
Go Bucs
October 12th, 2021 at 8:37 pm
“his actions go against our core values as an organization. Therefore, he will no longer continue to be a member of the Buccaneers Ring of Honor.”
Why is antonio brown still employed?
Why is richard sherman still employed ?
W. Sapp??
Doesnt make any sense. I dont think job gruden did anything wrong. He spoke his mind out like every human does. And should of kept confidential because its his emails. Or whatever. Now if he is making statements openly in tv , internet then thats something else.
He should keep his job and ring of honor.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:38 pm
Right decision to remove him but the double standards have to be addressed. I saw Aqib Talib recently on a CBS broadcast color commentating. The dude has a violent history off the field starting his rookie year before the season even started. But CBS and the NFL looks the other way? We’re talking a violent criminal here compared to someone who hurt feelings and broke social rules. It’s terrible what Gruden said. And let’s not forget Gruden would take anyone in a draft or in free agency despite their off the field issues if he thought they would help him win which. Remember the dirt bag tight end with a dui manslaughter issue? He could care less about character which is terrible in itself.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:40 pm
Hate to say it but looks like Keyshawn was right all along about Gruden’s character.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:41 pm
I have often called out bigoted comments before on this website. But This thing with Gruden is wrong. Comments made 10 yrs ago? My god, who hasn’t said some crap many years ago? The man apologized and said he was sorry. This whole thing stinks past the heavens. I mean the man was not hitler Every player whose played for him respected him and he did the same. This woke crap is getting out of hand people. Taking Gruden out of the ring pleases some I am sure. But a lot of us thinks it just sucks.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:41 pm
The statue never should of been up.
Maybe bill b up in new england deserves one after 6 SB.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:41 pm
This is ironically to the exact script that DAVE CHAPPELLE just talked about in his latest NetFlix special.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:43 pm
Keyshawn has his own issues on character.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:44 pm
What kind of man is keyshawn going around all over TV talking smack.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:45 pm
No, no, no need to take the statue out. He was the coach of that team that made it. There has to be a measure to things gals. Enough! guy got burned but he is not Hitler or anything like that. Come on now.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:46 pm
Enough of this cancelling people OVER WORDS. WORDS. And not even words trying to incite violence or cause harm.
We’ve ALL said stupid things. The way to ‘reform’ the things people say is to give those that make mistakes a chance to ‘correct’ their path and acknowledge their errors. The answer is isn’t to completely ‘cancel’ people and permanently end their careers.
NOTHING will make progress in any area until mistakes can be held accountable and then that very person can prove it won’t happen again.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:48 pm
This is going to be our Curse of the Bambino. Just watch
October 12th, 2021 at 8:48 pm
If im gruden im dropping acouple lawsuits against league, wft and whomever release his emails with his approval.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:50 pm
We should force the Glazers to sell the team for removing part of our Cities Great History.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:50 pm
Adrnagy
Keyshawn may have his issues… doesn’t make him wrong about Gruden. What kind of man is Gruden, who makes $10m + a year to lead men , while disparaging multiple people in multiple ways…
You’d expect that from a fry cook at Hooter’s, not an NFL head coach… oh.. wait.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:51 pm
Some observations:
The Glazers determine in the end who gets into the “Ring of Honor” and who does not. It is no secret that there has been bad blood between Chuckie and the Lads since they canned him. A lot of stuff happened at One Buc during Gruden’s time there, he probably made quite a few enemies and since he was an employee of the Bucs he has taken a few pot shots at the Glazers so their response should not be shocking to anyone.
Personally, Chuckie still made off with over $30 million from the Raiders so its not like he is destitute especially when you consider the coin he made on MNF. I do find the timing strange about how all this surfaced, why now? Also why were these reporters from the NYT and other sources going through Bruce Allen’s e-mails, is there more to this story? I doubt big NE media were going after a story on Chuckie or Bruce Allen; this must have been something they discovered while going after someone else, perhaps Danny Boy Snyder? If so then this would have happened to Gruden if he was still on MNF as you know BSPN would drop him like a hot potato.
Rural Meyer is out of the spotlight for now but the culture in Jacksonville is still rock bottom; reminds me of the Bucs organization from 1984 to 1994 what the Joes call the lost decade of the 2010s. Maybe the Jags would be a better organization if their owner was not more concerned with playing games in London than actually building a winning franchise. Meyer probably already has his agent talking to the AD at USC as well as the one in Baton Rouge to test the water.
I saw OJ mentioned. Well 2 wrongs do not make a right even if we are comparing apples and oranges as double murder is in a different league than Gruden making a fool out of himself. Just because Buffalo is tone deaf and leaves a double murderer and thug in their ring of honor does not mean the Bucs or any other organization need to compare themselves to that city or its culture.
Chuckie dug his own grave now he gets to retire in it. Now we get to see if the story has legs, will other names be exposed and when does someone try to get coin from Gruden via a lawsuit for whatever reason lawyers can find?
I am just glad the Bucs did not bring Chuckie back when he decided he wanted back in the game. It would be an interesting story to find out if the Glazers tried to make amends and bring him back and if they did did he hurls few more insults their way.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:51 pm
In fact a protest needs to happen. You can’t remove Chucky!
October 12th, 2021 at 8:54 pm
The repugs screaming their current favorite trope: cancel culture… brought to you from the propagandists over at Fux, OAN, Noozmax. They didn’t worry about cancel culture when the orange fascist was calling for NFL boycotts because players kneeled. Sorry, your issue isn’t really cancellation — you just don’t want your favorite bigots held accountable… but you’re perfectly happy to cancel those who protest racism.
October 12th, 2021 at 8:56 pm
Gruden messed up and it was the right thing to have him resign. It was a very bad look, but I’m never a fan of removing memories (or history). Statement says it already. We should all appreciate still what happened all those years ago. Doesn’t mean you condone who he is today. I get the reasoning behind it though.
October 12th, 2021 at 9:00 pm
I am very disappointed with this move! For people that have been a fan for a long time, 2002 was an amazing year and Gruden did what Dungy couldn’t, facts are facts. While I understand he made some major mistakes, the horrific inconsistencies within the league are why many people actually won’t watch anymore. As many people have already stated and I agree with, his emails can cost him his job, which is huge…. But his entire impact on the game?!?! People on this team, within the history of this team, and all throughout the league have done far worse with temporary penalties. Disappointing day in Tampa!
October 12th, 2021 at 9:00 pm
Jmarkbuc …
Keyshawn is wrong. He should make one statement and move on.
Gruden didnt offend no one.
In case you missed it. Gruden is / was talking to his bff.
And .. so what ! Ppl maybe like you and keyshawn make too much drama.
October 12th, 2021 at 9:05 pm
I agree with the sentiment of the team’s announcement, and its rationale for removing him from the Ring of Honor.
October 12th, 2021 at 9:06 pm
Regardless of the take on the situation, we all saw this coming. Whats most interesting is why the NFL leaks Gruden emails and we hear nothing about the investigation into the WTF’s that uncovered these emails to begin with. Does this have to do with some sort of back office deal to keep the NFLPA Pres in their back pocket? How come they dont leak Dan Snyder information to the NYT?
October 12th, 2021 at 9:12 pm
If anything this is his punishment for being such a dumbass that he actually wrote all that in an email and hit send. I mean really. Sometimes it’s better in civilization to not put your true feeling in words. Especially if your a terrible person. If you remember right before he got fired he was cursing like crazy at a family event in front of the kids. He was clearly out of control. Que sera sera.
October 12th, 2021 at 9:12 pm
Are y’all gonna report what he said about Mr. Glazer or are you gonna keep letting people think this was about racism???
October 12th, 2021 at 9:12 pm
F you Bucs. You pathetic cowards and for all of you tools who think canceling someone for words you don’t like – you are the reason why this country is falling apart.
October 12th, 2021 at 9:16 pm
Both my wife and I (longtime Buc fans) are NOT happy with the Glazers right now.
October 12th, 2021 at 9:20 pm
I’m starting to think this is a 21st century adaptation of Brave New World.
October 12th, 2021 at 9:22 pm
Amazing up here in most businesses you can say whatever you want about your employer, slander them, anything at all and nothing happens! He was paid millions and cannot act like an adult. The reason the country is falling apart is crybabies like Gruden and those who condone that behavior.
October 12th, 2021 at 9:28 pm
Love and War – You’re a snitch, the type of guy that would turn in his kids to their employer because they didn’t get vaccinated – then say, it’s company policy, you should have followed orders.
You’re the D-bag who drives 55mph in the fast lane, backing up traffic for miles, and then saying, ‘just following orders’ – the speed limit is 55 and no one should be speeding.
The difference between government and corporate means nothing to you, you’d happily jump on the government lynch mob bandwagon if that was an option.
That’s the informant mindset, and why you’re anti-American trash. You should go move to North Korea where you can rat on everyone else…. except, you’d quickly find out being a rat goes both ways and you’d end up in a gulag when your neighbors exposed you.
October 12th, 2021 at 9:30 pm
This is classless! What he accomplished on the field no one ever thought would happen. At this point all Crew of Honor members need to submit their last 10 years of emails. I am sure Warren Sapp doesn’t have any skeletons…. This is a joke… and as Joe pointed out OJ is up in Buffalo…. I have been a Bucs fan since 1976 and this is the worst move this franchise has done!
October 12th, 2021 at 9:32 pm
As a political moderate, this whole thing kinda makes me see why..some people just say to hell with it and gravitate towards the far right.
October 12th, 2021 at 9:32 pm
Bucswin Says … Sometimes it’s better in civilization to not put your true feeling in words.
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You ever read a book? Checkout WW2 German, the Soviet Union and North Korea, find out what it’s like to live in a world where no one is allowed to say anything that is deemed ‘anti-social’.
You people are the same people trying to get Chappelle canceled for ‘anti-social’ behavior.
Meanwhile all those smart devices in your home, including your phone, are listening to every single word you say. When someone flips a switch and starts recording all those conversations, will you stay out of the gulags?
October 12th, 2021 at 9:33 pm
WOW Pete has to share the meds, some people here going bananas over a coach getting torched and not owning it up. Qué ridiculos!
October 12th, 2021 at 9:37 pm
I’m willing to wager the statue will be next!!! LOL
October 12th, 2021 at 9:37 pm
Oh that’s completely true Rod. In fact that’s how I make my money and pay my NFL gamepass and I am not American. I do it comfortably from my home in another country, just checking out for loonies who want to blow something up or perverts trying to get child pornography. 100% legit, we are watching you.
October 12th, 2021 at 9:38 pm
I’d like to know exactly what he said before making my judgment. But by the sound of it he said way too many racial comments.
October 12th, 2021 at 9:40 pm
I might not like what you say, but I’ll fight for your right to say it! I’m literally the biggest free speech advocate in existence.
But of course if you say anything I deem inappropriate, be it a joke or speaking in private, I’ll lead the lynch mob to get you fired, make you homeless and get you removed from society, hopefully leading you to off yourself, afterwhich I’ll dance on your grave.
But of course you have freedom of speech – the government didn’t do anything to you! It was just corporate policy at work. If you didn’t want to be punished by the corporation, you shouldn’t have had those thoughts.
October 12th, 2021 at 9:40 pm
Those happy he’s being removed are the problem with society. I haven’t seen anyone here agree with his comments and don’t think he should have been fired or resigned as coach but removing him from the ring of honor is removing history because you don’t like something that hurts your feelings. It’s pathetic. We can cancel 90% of all history if we keep going down that path. It’s asinine.
Those who agree with it are the same people who have no problem when Facebook or Instagram censor people. As far as I’m concerned if you’re going to offer a platform, free-speech applies. Everyone should be able to say whatever the F they want. It is up to that individual reading the message to turn away if it offends them and to sift through the BS if they think it’s fake news.
This woke, cancel culture and bowing down to the far left insanity is going to end real soon because millions are extremely fed up with it
October 12th, 2021 at 9:41 pm
The dude said in an email that one of the Glazers should perform oral sex on him. How could they leave him in the Ring? All of you Brave New World, North Korea, Commie worrying politicos needs to calm the hell down.
October 12th, 2021 at 9:44 pm
Apparently a lot of people here have never said anything questionable in private to their best friends.
They’ve never sent a tweet or an email or an instant message to their friends in private that ever had a disparaging comment about any other person, whether it be race or ethnicity or gender or sexual orientation etc. and not even as a joke. Amazing how many people are so pristine and perfect and so willing to cast those stones at others.
I’m pretty sure me and my friends say worse things every week on the golf course. And there’s not a single one of us who are racist or bigoted or misogynistic in any way.
[Joe is also pretty sure you are not the highest-profile person of a high-profile NFL team worth billions which the league tries to market to everyone. Fairly confident the TV networks — which pay the NFL a complete fortune to televise their product — don’t want to televise any game with a coach known for what Chucky did. Also pretty confident that heavy hitter advertisers want nothing to do with a team that has a guy like Chucky as its face of the franchise. Viewers also tend to turn the channel and not buy the commercial products sold during games involving morally replusive people which Chucky has been exposed as. — Joe]
October 12th, 2021 at 9:45 pm
Here is a thought, what about the statue at One Buc? New one with this group?
October 12th, 2021 at 9:46 pm
[Joe doesn’t think any reasonable person thinks what Chucky did was remotely OK. Reason your comment went bye-bye is it is flammable as heck and Joe is trying to save the comments on this post from getting locked down. — Joe]
October 12th, 2021 at 9:47 pm
Well I guess that thought was too late…
October 12th, 2021 at 9:50 pm
Flyin Dutchman – Yeah it’s pretty standard of Eurotrash not to understand how replusive of an idea it is to punish people for speech, in particular what people say in private. You see, I don’t care what someone says — what I care about is how they act and treat others. Lots of nutjob leftists meanwhile only care about speech, they’re obsessed with words, and if you use unapproved language, they want you punished. Because we Americans have that pesky first amendment, so instead they lead public lynchings. That’s just your way of life in Europe, and part of the reason we left that s-hole.
Unfortunately there’s a lot of Eurotrash right here in America, lots of people who want to see others torn down to make them feel better about their own pitiful failure of a life. So just like in old Europe, they’ll pick up a pitchfork and join any public lynching. It’s literally the same people then as it is now.
As for your lame attempt to intimidate, it was pretty embarrassing.
October 12th, 2021 at 9:53 pm
SoFloBuc – That would be awesome, we should tear down the statue, burn it, give it COVID, paint it rainbow colors and drag it through the streets. What a way to show everyone we will not tolerate inappropriate language said in private! We’ll be the most progressive city left of Austin, heck, let’s go for it, and be the San Fran of the east coast! I got my AZT meds fully stocked, we can do it!
October 12th, 2021 at 9:53 pm
Sad day in the NFL and Tampa Bay sports. I was never a huge fan of Grudens while he was here. I chose to judge him by the mediocre coaching record or tearing down what built this franchise which is the defense, sub par drafting. He had his flaws and positives. Personally I think it is the wrong decision to remove his name from the ROH. Like other posters have stated, is his statue at one buc next? We can’t take away what this man did for our team and community. The passion he brought took us the highest point in professional sports. I can’t deny what he said was wrong. We have all said things that we didn’t mean or didn’t intend on getting out. I don’t condone any of this nonsense. He should be held accountable for his actions as we all should. At the end of the day the cancel culture movement, wokeness, and all the other crap that’s out there has got to go. Other posters have mentioned OJ Simpson, Sapp, Lawrence Taylor, Antonio Brown using racist words, violent crimes, etc.. The double standard we live in is insane. Clearly NFL higher ups used him as an example to make sure the brand sticks with the media. Appease the masses by being less offensive. The world has gone soft and it’s getting worse. The game has grown soft and I hope we have an NFL in 20-30 years. At the end of the day the Glazer family did what they think was necessary and I respect their decision.
October 12th, 2021 at 9:55 pm
[Claiming in the comments on this site that the sitting President of the United States is guilty of sex crimes can and will get you run. See ya. — Joe.]
October 12th, 2021 at 9:56 pm
In the immortal words of the Southern Californian street philosopher, Ice T
“Freedom of speech, just watch what you say.”
October 12th, 2021 at 10:03 pm
Punishment don’t fit the crime. If there was so much beef between the glazers and gruden, then why did they put his name in the ring of honor?!? Plenty of players could’ve went before gruden or just leave him off it period. Are we handing over the Lombardi next like some one else said?
October 12th, 2021 at 10:03 pm
View from 132 They will come for you one day too, make no mistake about it, because none of us is perfect and we have all said or thought similar or worse. You will change your tune when your head is on the chopping block. Nobody condones the language Gruden used and certainly nobody types it in an email, but the Glazers did fire Gruden so they cannot be shocked the dude does not like them. No different than when Keyshawn Johnson left screaming, vile, offensive, and profanity laced voicemails on someone’s answering machine a few years back that were made public but he still gets a job on the networks and does not get erased from Bucs history. Warren Sapp hired two hookers, had sex with them, refused to pay them, and physically threw them out of his hotel room and was arrested for it. He is in the ring of honor? It is the double standard that bothers most people, the unequal way these cancel rules are applied.
October 12th, 2021 at 10:03 pm
Gruden has ALWAYS been suspect… the facial aggression HAD TO HAVE a deeper meaning. He always looked ready for war. ready to kill. I always said “that fellow has “deep issues:. someone is paying for it somewhere… whether professionally or personally. someone was getting the brunt of that aggression.
October 12th, 2021 at 10:05 pm
Freedom of speech doesn’t protect anyone from the consequence of what they are saying for example anyone is free to call me a racial slur but the consequence is that I will probably sock you in the face there will always be consequences for the things you say good or bad. Emails are not private everything on the internet is not private especially so when you are sending emails from your personal email to a company email.
October 12th, 2021 at 10:08 pm
“Freedom means responsibility, that is why most men dread it” – George Bernard Shaw
October 12th, 2021 at 10:12 pm
ASH – Emails are not private everything on the internet is not private
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That’s literally fake news.
Yes, your email is private. Saying it’s not private is like saying anything you send through the mail is not private.
October 12th, 2021 at 10:20 pm
In the words of Tone-Loc.
“But when she got undressed, it was a big old mess, Sheena was a man”
Who is Tone-Loc to say who a man is and who a man is not? That is unacceptable hate speech and he must be punished. CANCELED!
Also Spuds MacKenzie, he’s canceled too for associating with this bigot.
October 12th, 2021 at 10:20 pm
Why Gruden and not Hunter Biden???!!
October 12th, 2021 at 10:26 pm
That’s hilarious Rod, I’m not European. You just assume things over and over. Freedom of speech is great. I love it. I also love the USA and have many dear friends there. You seem to have a very simplified view of the world. If that makes you happy, enjoy it. No attempt of intimidation for Christ sake I was just telling you that yes people is taping in. Actually proving your point. What a mouthful Rod, I have an understanding of why Chucky became personal to you but will suspend that judgement and update it later on.
October 12th, 2021 at 10:26 pm
This is why we should not judge a person by the color of their skin (words they use) but by the content of their character.
Nothing about what he said changes my mind about the content of Chucky’s “character”. If anything it only affirmed it.
I would pay to see him say the things he said to these people faces. As a paying customer that is ENTERTAINED by their PRODUCTIONS. I demand a NON-SEPRANO seed off for Chucky.
October 12th, 2021 at 10:28 pm
*NON-SOPRANOS send off for Chucky
October 12th, 2021 at 10:31 pm
This has very little to do with football. It’s just more woke nonsense from the NFL. Joe shows his lack of intelligence with yet another pointless article.
October 12th, 2021 at 10:31 pm
I completely understand why the Glazers did what they did. Gruden is a dumpster fire right now for saying some crude, hurtful things and who the hell knows what else he said that we will probably never hear about? Sending pictures of nude cheerleaders back and forth between a buddy is some sick stuff too man. It’s not like these women posed for playboy or something (nothing wrong with that btw) and I’m guessing that the pictures were sent thinking that they wouldn’t be distributed like f’ing baseball cards. Disgusting.
Would I have removed him from the ring of honor if I were the Glazers for the words that he typed in his e-mails. Nope. Never once during Gruden’s time here did I hear about him saying anything derogatory about any race or sexual orientation. As far as I can remember he was a model citizen who loved the game and his players. Did he change after he left here and become some kind of hateful bastard? Maybe, but we’ll never know the truth because as of now with this new fad of canceling folks, there is no judge or jury, just a fast execution (figuratively speaking) with no chance to state your case, even though I personally don’t know how he could have defended any of what he said/did. I would have removed him for sending the pictures of those cheerleaders though who were employed by a fellow organization and the hurtful words would have just been icing on the cake.
All that said, I still feel like Gruden has been made into a scapegoat to cover for other’s wrongdoings. Surely no one believes that he was the only one in on this disgusting behavior right?
Even though I am saddened that Gruden seems to have become a dirt bag, as far as I know, all of what he did happened after he left our Buccaneers and I will still look fondly upon our first Super Bowl win. Sad times man.
October 12th, 2021 at 10:34 pm
Meanwhile in the REAL WORLD.
37 governors have signed an agreement to do a full forensic audit of the elections due to the fraud that was found in Arizona.
Keep your eye on the Prize yall. We aint getting canceled, we are getting distracted by our choice of entertainment TV.
Goodnight Football Family
October 12th, 2021 at 10:43 pm
Some of the comments on here are insane. It’s not that complicated. Once it became public that Gruden suggested, in writing no less, that Brian Glazer should you know what, what were the Glazers supposed to do? Seriously. If you owned a high-profile business and everyone found out a former employee said that about you, and you were publicly honoring that person & now looking like a total fool…
October 12th, 2021 at 10:45 pm
Flyin Dutchman Says:
October 12th, 2021 at 10:26 pm
That’s hilarious Rod, I’m not European.
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Your not from the US and your name is the Flyin Dutchman – you might see how I came up with that.
So what police state are you from? Australia, from one of the Asian countries, give a clue.
In any case, I’ve never been a fan of Gruden – I still hate him for what he did to the Bucs – but what I hate even more are public lynchings and people pretending as if words hurt.
I don’t care if I like the person or not, I don’t even care if I agree with what they say, the idea of people being rats, tattling on others, then pretending as if words hurt, it’s repulsive. As someone not from here you might believe that people should constantly live in fear of saying the wrong thing, but I disagree. I want to know exactly what someone actually believes, because when we do, when people feel free to say whatever they believe, that’s when you can have real conversations. When someone will not say what they believe because they know they’ll be punished, that’s a police state, regardless of if it’s corporate or state police.
With all that said, once we’re talking football again, then that’s what I’ll be talking about. No hard feelings, maybe a potshot here are there or saying something offensive just to p/o of the word police, but it stays in whatever thread is related to the subject, at least in my case.
October 12th, 2021 at 10:48 pm
Joe inserted the excerpt from the New York Times about what Chucky and Bruce Almighty said about Mr. Glazer in Joe’s original story. Joe doesn’t know the exact words Chucky used because not even the New York Times can print them. Neither the New York Times nor JoeBucsFan.com is Hustler and Joe isn’t Larry Flynt.
Most people with an IQ above 70 should be able to figure out what “oral sex” between men means.
October 12th, 2021 at 10:48 pm
Matt B Says:
October 12th, 2021 at 10:43 pm
Some of the comments on here are insane. It’s not that complicated. Once it became public that Gruden suggested, in writing no less, that Brian Glazer should you know what, what were the Glazers supposed to do?
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Nothing. They should do nothing. Or if they want to, they could have fun with it and say ‘Jon wishes I’d b— him, I’m the best’. That’s how you handle it.
Removing him, tearing down the statue like you’re the Taliban, that’s what an woman does if she’s on her period. What a man does is have some fun with it, or ignore, or even address it behind the scenes if they’re that ‘offended’ by it.
October 12th, 2021 at 10:49 pm
Oh boy,i better start deleting my emails because i might become a coach in my next lifetime.
October 12th, 2021 at 10:49 pm
Buczilla makes some nice points. Perhaps I shouldn’t have said I was happy about it. It is indeed a sad day. No one wanted this. To me, the bigger problem was how he handled it. He kind of just wanted to rub it under the carpet and move on and I think that’s what killed him. He wasn’t clutch. Public relation scandal broke out, fair or not. he couldn’t handle it. Was he set up? looks like it but he was liable and he got the shortest straw. To me that is it. IMO it is better for him to be the scapegoat than to keep on rollin’ heads. Gruden didn’t measure the consequences and didn’t react in the midst of the storm. It was a complete shipwreck and a sad ending for a old time Buccaneer. Let your lost be your lesson
October 12th, 2021 at 11:01 pm
I’m glad that fraud has been exposed and he should be removed from anything that stands for honor. He is a shameful, dishonorable pos, and those defending him are exposing themselves for exactly how they talk, email and feel. Let what happened to your boy be a lesson.
October 12th, 2021 at 11:04 pm
Joe doesn’t know the exact words Chucky used because not even the New York Times can print them.
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But the New York Times CAN print them. It’s the supposed to be the news. They literally have an obligation to report on what was said, in context.
This nonsense of the news censoring content they deem ‘offensive’ has lead us to the point that we don’t actually know what people said. That’s not how the news is supposed to work.
Also, Joe, I’m not referring you when I say news. This is not meant as an insult, but I consider you to be a blog, we’re getting news often intertwined or filtered by opinion, it’s what makes you fun to read. I completely understand you avoiding something, or just making the editorial decision you don’t want to cover something. But hard news should just be facts without opinion — not that the NY Times, or really anyone anymore, falls under that.
October 12th, 2021 at 11:05 pm
Great Rod, I am keepin my location private (Joe can probably see my IP but other than that), and your last point is absolutely what is all about. Let’s keep it about Football.
Of course we want people to be true and show their true colors. That’s one of the questions in this particular case. He lost the confidence of his players because of the revelations. That’s why I never leave my cell phone unlocked near my lady.
Can we move on to Thursday’s game? The worst we could do is to make this more of a distraction. We are rollin’ the past is still there. LFG!
October 12th, 2021 at 11:08 pm
@Anonymous
Your perspective just proves why we don’t want or will ever let mentally weak and emotionally unstable people run the world.
Although you make the argument like a scared little child. I don’t think children feel the way you do.
You sound more like one of those unfortunate “University Grads” that know it all and can be anything they want to be. Even a girl.
October 12th, 2021 at 11:09 pm
@Rod, you’re speaking too many facts and some people are going to get hurt in their confusion
October 12th, 2021 at 11:22 pm
Regardless of what he wrote it was a private and I repeat a PRIVATE email between two parties. The NFL had no business leaking it to the press. Once again I do not agree with what Jon wrote but he should not be punished. He never made comments public. It sets a terrible precedent on what is private or public consumption. To me this leak was personal from the NFL office. I can see Jon filing a lawsuit against the NFL on infringement of privacy. Jon is going to get all the money back he lost and more. Once again I’m not defending what Jon said but his rights were violated to the highest degree.
October 12th, 2021 at 11:41 pm
It’s not private if it’s an exchange between an NFL executive and a broadcaster. Sorry. You have responsibilities and if you’re an a$$hole and a bigot in referring to other NFL people, you’re still on the clock. He was paid a lot of money. Anyone at that level in any industry would face consequences if such conversations were exposed. Would the NFL have been better off covering up this a$$hole’s foulness? Why would they do that? They’d just be complicit if it were ever exposed.
October 12th, 2021 at 11:53 pm
As I said earlier, the NFL did him dirty to cover for Snyder.
That’s is blatantly obvious. Even PfT, the NYT and barstool have written the same thing.
But LOL at some of you having your panties in such a bunch over this. The league, the players and the networks don’t want to be associated with that type of behavior. Simple as that.
LOL at being mad at the Glazers. Maybe take a long look in the mirror if that’s your biggest concern right now.
October 12th, 2021 at 11:54 pm
And Gruden is an absolute moron for sending that stuff to someones work email.
That’s like email basics 101 folks.
October 12th, 2021 at 11:55 pm
A smart person puts them on Their own server so they can delete anything that gets subpoenaed.
October 12th, 2021 at 11:55 pm
And many of you seem to be forgetting that he burned almost every bridge while he was here. Staff, players, etc. all hated the guy.
October 12th, 2021 at 11:57 pm
Oh clod, your butthurt knows no limits.
October 13th, 2021 at 12:25 am
@Clod
Too bad Gruden couldn’t take a play from Hillary’s book.
Hopefully Gruden enjoys retirement.
October 13th, 2021 at 1:24 am
unbelievable Says:
Maybe take a long look in the mirror if that’s your biggest concern right now.
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Yeah, being against people being publicly lynched for comments made in private — why would I ever want to defend something as American as that? Nah, better to be part of the brainless mob and pickup a pitchfork.
BTW, your phone is listening to you right now, your google home, your nest, your Alexa, your TV, your XBOX, your PC, literally everything. Watch what you say.
If you don’t think you’re going to eventually end up at the barrel end of this, then you’ve clearly never read a history book.
October 13th, 2021 at 4:32 am
It’s the right decision, this will be a permanent stain on Grudens the way it blew up and you just can’t have a statue of Gruden for players to see everyday at OneBuc.
I’ll always respect Gruden as a coach ON the field. Off the field, that’s another story.
This must be a complete gut punch to Gruden because I really believe he is mostly a decent person who has flaws and question marks.
But regardless, those emails are a reflection of his flaws and Super Bowl or not it’s not the best idea to promote Gruden (Or SAPP) going forward but rather promote the guys with crystal clean images such as……
Derrick Brooks, Mike Alstott, Monte Kiffin, Lee Roy Selman, and Ronde Barber. Etc.
October 13th, 2021 at 4:36 am
i honestly didn’t like to hear the way he talked to tirico and jaworski on MNF…
he snarled and threw his hands around like he was with subordinates…sorta talking down to them at times…
if he rubbed me wrong as just a lousy viewer, imagine what nfl insiders thought of his napoleonic ways…
i always thought someone would just fly his head at some point, but that’s short lived tough guy sh!t…so they pete rosed his azz instead
October 13th, 2021 at 5:09 am
Hindsight but….Bucs would have been better off not going near gruden or keyshawn. Rich and Dungy built the team back. Gruden and allen shredded it to pieces. Honor lol…the real heros are up there kiffin n dungy.
October 13th, 2021 at 5:28 am
There’s some f’ed people in this world that say and some f’ed up things, we’ll this is one of those times and persons. We all for the biggest part knew little chuckie took Coach Dungys team and had the SuperBowl handed to him and that decision to fire Coach Dungy and other decisions the Glazers made questioned their morals if you were to ask me my opinion. Our Country lacks morals in a big way right now and it seems to be headed down the hill like the snowball headed for hell. Me I love and respect ones like Shaq Barrett and Tim Tebow wearing their Faith on their sleeve I wish I was as with the same standard of Faith and morals. I’m not a heathern but I’m not a saint either. God Bless All of us and Our Country and World.
October 13th, 2021 at 6:12 am
Do not agree with Gruden and his statements, but he should sue whoever leaked those e-mails.
October 13th, 2021 at 6:24 am
When the slave told the massa to kiss his arse or to suck his dingaling, he was beaten and likely hung for insubordination even though he was working day and night for free and y’all mad because a millionaire emailed this about his former employer and they took his name down off their wall – damn
October 13th, 2021 at 6:32 am
How in the heck does owner Jim Irsay get a buy? Drugs, mistress o.d. in his house, etc, etc.
October 13th, 2021 at 6:33 am
our society now will punish you for your 10 year old email. Wow
October 13th, 2021 at 7:00 am
Just curious why nothing has surfaced from Deshaun Watson and the 22 accusers. Why is it taking the NFL so long to make any judgement
The NFL is one of the biggest Hypocrites out there. Any intelligent person can see it a Mile away.
I’m sorry this was a Big Time professional hit. Just follow the money. Bc MONEY is what this is all about.
Lesson is be careful when you mess w people who have DEEP Pockets. They can make you disappear
October 13th, 2021 at 7:13 am
Thank God Gruden resigned. We are all safer now. Tanya Snyder is now the ceo of the redskins. Cynical humor at its finest. Just another step towards equity.
sigh…
October 13th, 2021 at 7:36 am
The Curse is Back !
Upon further review the Glazers have screwed the pooch on this Social Justice
BLUNDER
October 13th, 2021 at 7:50 am
Terrible decision by the Bucs.
I am VERY disappointed in our team and its owners for giving into cancel culture mentality in this case.
Sure what Gruden wrote was offensive. So what? It was 10 years ago – in PRIVATE emails. He never said these things publicly that we know of.
Yet another example of a very dangerous precedent being set here.
Those cheering on the canceling of Jon Gruden should take pause and ask themselves why? – Is it because “what he said privately was gross – but we found out about it – so he deserves it”?
If we collectively allow and encourage that its OK to Scarlet Letter a person and basically ruin their life over some cherry picked off color remarks made years ago in private emails – I mean seriously – where does it end?
If the 1st and 4th Amendments to the US Constitution are out the window – then where does that leave us?
How do so many that support or even condone ‘cancel culture’ not see the totalitarian control over nearly every aspect of our lives at the end of this road????
October 13th, 2021 at 7:52 am
I am happy to see that more of the fans on here get it than the commenters on PFT.
They had over 100 comments and ai didn’t see one that referenced the Brian Glazer insult. This isn’t about moral high ground.
If it comes out publicly that I said my manager should suck my ****, yeah my Employee of the year/month/day photo is coming down.
October 13th, 2021 at 7:56 am
The Curse is Back !
October 13th, 2021 at 8:04 am
This “CORE VALUES” crapola is laughable!! Jameis Winston? Richard Sherman? Warren Sapp? AB? Aqib Talib? Jeremy Stevens? Mike Williams? Jaydon Mickens? Chris Hovan? And you can be 100% certain that there are a LOT of other “CORE VALUES” men in Buccaneer history that were awful humans, but it just didn’t make it to the news. Welcome to BUCCANEER CANCEL CULTURE.
October 13th, 2021 at 8:06 am
Adam….I believe Mike Tirico came out and defended Gruden this week.
October 13th, 2021 at 8:06 am
Thank Goodness Gruden is Canceled!
But serioulsy this is the right thing to do.
Again it is not the Ring of Champoins or Ring of Winners.
It is literally Ring of Honor.
We need to hold those with power over others to a higher standard.
October 13th, 2021 at 8:12 am
The Curse is Back
October 13th, 2021 at 8:16 am
And with this, I agree with Gruden in regard to the Glazers. Most of what he said about Goodell is fact anyway. Most people just can’t handle the way he said it. Only members of a cult would care what he said anyway. Victimhood has currency. This isn’t justice, it’s revenge and we will see this trend continue.
October 13th, 2021 at 8:17 am
247 (now 248) comments?! This is the most I’ve ever seen for a topic on JBF. Over this?! Holy Moley! Some people need to chill out and take things a bit more easy. Gruden screwed up. When you screw up, you have to pay for it. Not sure what the debate is.
October 13th, 2021 at 8:23 am
Distasteful, crude , inappropriate, hurtful, base,
The punishment must always fit the “crime “
The Curse is Back
October 13th, 2021 at 8:25 am
HELL LET’S DESTROY EVERYTHING AND START OVER , , LETS MAKE EVEYTHING ABOUT CLEAN FRESH PEOPLE THAT HAVEN’T SIN AT ALL , BUT ONE THING I DON’T THINK YOU WILL FIND THAT PERSON AND IF YOU DO , IT WILL BE JESUS !!!!!!!
October 13th, 2021 at 8:32 am
What is that supposed to mean “The Curse is Back”?
Are you rooting for the team to fail now?
If that is so, you can just f*ck off and find another team. There may still be a South African Rugby team or two that embraces racists. You’ll have to do your research on that one.
October 13th, 2021 at 8:41 am
unbelievable Says:
October 12th, 2021 at 11:57 pm
Oh clod, your butthurt knows no limits.
LOL but I’m right and that’s really the source of your ire.
October 13th, 2021 at 8:43 am
@Adrnagy: the emails were part of discovery in that Redskin boorish behavior lawsuit. Had they been on a private mail server I’m not so sure they could be part of discovery.
Gruden was not the target. Allen and the Redskins were.
Allen was an idiot for communicating on the company mail server.
October 13th, 2021 at 8:47 am
Let this sordid episode be a warning to all: In the New AmeriKa, anything you ever thought, said, or wrote WILL be held against you in Cancel Culture Court. 10, 20, 50 years ago, regardless of context, it does not matter…especially if you are a white male.
And the Thought Nazi’s will cheer the Court on…asking for blood.
October 13th, 2021 at 8:53 am
Once again, y’all mad a multi-millionaire got his name removed off the wall like graffiti in the bathroom. When people have died for presumably using some of those same words because he didn’t like how the master was treating him or his family
October 13th, 2021 at 9:21 am
Let this sordid episode be a warning to all: In the New AmeriKa, anything you ever thought, said, or wrote WILL be held against you in Cancel Culture Court. 10, 20, 50 years ago, regardless of context, it does not matter…especially if you are a white male.
And the Thought Nazzzzi’s will cheer the Court on…asking for blood.
October 13th, 2021 at 9:24 am
totally agree with removing him, did he also said this:
” Obama is “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean” ??
or this :
“You can’t go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent”
hahaha… media was laughing at the time….
…or was not Gruden??!!! not sure….
October 13th, 2021 at 9:26 am
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
October 13th, 2021 at 9:42 am
Gruden is still my guy. I stand with Gru
October 13th, 2021 at 10:12 am
Funny how when the players offend fans by kneeling during the national anthem it’s “free speech” and can’t be infringed (despite being at work on private property).
But when minorities are offended by what was believed to be a private conversation that they can take action on.
The owners and players all agree, the fans are essentially chumps who will take what they are given.
October 13th, 2021 at 10:14 am
@clod,
No ire over here, I thought it was funny actually.
Besides, your orange messiah and his whole family did the exact same thing when they got into office. I’m sure you were just as upset about it with them though, right?
🤣
October 13th, 2021 at 10:35 am
Let me get this straight, you can say all kinds of racial euphemism but say one word about the alphabet community and your career gets canned, welcome to america
October 13th, 2021 at 10:35 am
Geez, where do I start. The clowns that said Gruden won the Super Bowl with Dungy’s players are full of crap. If that was even so then why couldn’t Dungy win with Dungy players. Don’t let your alligater mouth overload your tadpole ass. Do if a black player or coach in the ring of honor said in reverse what Jon said they would have had there names removed. Not on your life. its the scum of the earth BLM won again. If I was Gruden there is no way I would have resigned. Make them fire me. See blacks can so or do whatever they please & nothing happens. Let me end by saying I’ve been to my last Bucs game. Thanks for saving me a ton of $.
October 13th, 2021 at 10:42 am
I do not agree with this at all.
Once in, he should stay in.
Besides, those things he said were more than 10 years ago, and a lot has changed since then. I don’t like this at all.
October 13th, 2021 at 11:10 am
@Cobraboy Says:
“…… it does not matter…especially if you are a white male……”
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that is not entirely true, but yes, it started that way.
now days you get a “pass” ONLY if you are a proven/active/stud leftist.
gender, race, ethnicity means ALMOST nothing.
I never was a Gruden fan, you cant ignore the fact his contribution winning the SB.
If he decide to run for Florida Gov in 2026, he got my vote.
Sorry Gruden, DeSantis is going to rule till then.
October 13th, 2021 at 11:39 am
too bad he just didn’t beat his wife instead, cause you get to stay in tampa and cheered for that, on this team!
go bucs!
October 13th, 2021 at 11:56 am
Sad for us and football. Gruden apologized. What people want? Him to get down on bended knee? Who among you..us..has not said some crap in anger we wish we could take back? This whole thing stinks of Goodall. He cherry picks and makes Gruden the sacrificial lamb here. So lets see the whole pie now. Lets see what Mr. Snyder said from the WFT. But No they won’t do that. Let the public chew on the lamb for a while right? The Glazers would have done well to leave Gruden in the circle. SO I guess the statue is next. I’m pissed past pisstivity. I was never a big Gruden fan. But he deserves credit for taking us to the superbowl and winning. This woke crap sucks.
October 13th, 2021 at 12:34 pm
Malcolm Glazer grew up poor, lost relatives to the holocaust and through his own hard work, made something out of himself and became a billionaire.
Meanwhile his sons are born with silver spoons, and their toughest trial is what someone said in a private conversation a decade ago. Something that was true, based on Bryan spending way too much time around the team showers.
If Malcolm was here this wouldn’t have happened since Gruden clearly respected Malcolm. As for his rich kid sons who have done nothing except live off their daddies saving account, I can see why Gruden had no respect for them.
October 13th, 2021 at 12:59 pm
Horrible precedent going on here regarding emails that were intended to only be viewed by 1 or 2 ppl; and there were 600,000 and the only one to get dinged here is Gruden? Sad day with this scandal and removing of Gruden from the Wall
October 13th, 2021 at 1:53 pm
If Gruden had only identified as Hunter Biden, none of this would be made public by the MSM…
October 13th, 2021 at 2:08 pm
Dusty.
Work emails are the property of your employer.
Don’t send those emails to somebody’s work email if you can’t be proud of what you are saying.
October 13th, 2021 at 2:22 pm
Danr…..gruden is a pawn that was sacrificed plain and simple…The nfl doesnt want anything about collusion or the kap lawsuit or many other things. Gruden made disparaging remarks against people who like the same sex and that was the death blow in today’s society
October 13th, 2021 at 2:25 pm
[You were doing pretty good until you got to your last sentence. And with that, you are no better than Gruden. At least Gruden — based on leaked e-mails — isn’t an anti-Semite like you. And to think (based on your email) you represent a law firm in Southwest Florida, which is frightening to Joe. See ya. — Joe]
October 13th, 2021 at 2:39 pm
Imagine this:
Glasers, Bucs’ Senior staff and coaches have a meeting with the players to talk about all this crap.
“Sorry, guys- we are not going to take Gruden’s name down because of…..”
Hope you all like winning. I hope you all respect ME13, Lavonte David and all the white players that consider them family that have gone above and beyond for this team like you all claim. It would be a slap in the face to our players (including Tom Brady, who supports his fellow teammates on and off the field) to keep his name up or that statue for them to walk by everyday. Keeping his name up there would torpedo and sabotage what these guys have strived to do as Buccaneers after years of losing. I’m sure am happy this culture here has changed- for the better! You guys really want to cry about this? I remember when the Bucs stated that he was being inducted to the ROH, many folks cried he didn’t deserve to be there. Gruden had a good year or two here. Pretty much went south when he ran franchise players away.
His position of power is what makes this a bigger deal. He was in charge of a group of people in an order where he is 3rd from the top. This is proof he might of been discriminative on how he treats players or staff (black, gay, female, etc.) in the past or present. Why keep his name up? To piss off our NEW world champions that just seem to be getting better and better?
October 13th, 2021 at 3:24 pm
John Gruden is an egomaniac, period. He is also stupid as a rock. To leave printed evidence that he shot his mouth off in this day and age of surveillance capitalism? And track it to Bruce Allen no less? Good riddance. The idiot Glazers nearly gave up the farm to bring his arse to Tampa. He won the SB back in 2002 with the defense Dungy built. All dumbbell did was plug in a few offensive players. Gruden is a multimillionaire who hangs out on Reddington Beach. Screw him.
October 13th, 2021 at 3:36 pm
Since we live in the era of cancel culture Gruden only has one move here- Tomorrow he needs to hold a press conference and announce that he is now identifying as a black lesbian woman and would be honored if the Glazers wanted to have sex with him. I think that covers all the bases.
You’re welcome America.
October 13th, 2021 at 3:38 pm
^^^^^^^
wow, capitalism, pigs multimillionaire, idiot rich Galzers..wow
Viva La Revolucion 🚩
October 13th, 2021 at 3:41 pm
Things really have changed in America. As a youth, if you did something bad or illegal, and the evidence is pretty straight forward, you were punished. It was about what you did. Now it is about who leaked it, who caught you, what is the escape clause, that it really isn’t that bad, it is cancel culture, or whatever. Just excuses to whitewash a wrong. And at that point, things like and standards about morality, integrity, honesty, crime and punishment all go down the drain. It isn’t about what you did or do. It is about everything but that. It’s almost like the days of the old testament. God help us.
October 13th, 2021 at 3:45 pm
He was wrong at what he said in those emails, but why did they pick Grudens emails and not any of the other 650000. Sounds like Roger Nogoodall wanted him out of the NFL.
October 13th, 2021 at 3:46 pm
all…that is a good question. But has nothing to do with what Gruden did. Just that the other emails need to be dealt with as well.
October 13th, 2021 at 3:47 pm
Bojim Says:
“Glazers don’t play around. Good move.”
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I don’t think they had much choices. Season going great, stadium sell out, prime time TV more then ever…. they are business men, not idealists, not patriots. Just $$$.
In case you don’t know, their property is California, was number one fund raiser for the GREAT 45th.
I understand them, I justify their action, they are capitalists; and the most important they spend money for our Bucs.
October 13th, 2021 at 3:47 pm
Jon sent the email to his very close friend. It wasn’t a broadcaster nfl executive relationship. It was and email between two very close friends that were comfortable enough to send these types of emails to each other.
Are you telling me that most people have never had a photo of a naked or partially naked, or what is deemed inappropriate email from a friend ?
Let’s take this into the context of 2 guys just ripping people in a humorous way to each other.
Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle do it all the time. So it’s ok for them to do it but not Jon?
If Jon wants to call Roger p to his friend in a private message that’s his opinion and he is entitled to it.
NFL crossed the line and if I know Jon he is going to make sure they pay for it. I know I would.
It’s a case that may take time in the courts but 100% a case he would win.
October 13th, 2021 at 4:01 pm
@Marques
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good angle…. I would love that, sue them.
“Privat email to a friend observation, is like camera in men’s room to watch their Ds, and them comment on them… no no no NFL.”
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Just a reminder:
“The settlement will allow CNN to avoid a lengthy and potentially unpredictable trial. Sandmann sought $275 million in damages in the lawsuit he filed against CNN last March.”
That is what a GOOD lawyer got the kid.
Gruden is bad a$$, he is not going down that easy.
October 13th, 2021 at 4:31 pm
Yeah it’s all an attack on white people, if he was black or gay the democraps would have gave him a medal of freedom, oh my god he said some naughty words, but against the alphabet people, or the big lip people hang him!!! But yet minorities continue to kill each other in major city’s and we say nothing, criminal illegals flow in through our borders and we do nothing, but gruden says some naughty words and it’s a complete meltdown, this country has lost its way, just look at how soft football is, no balls left in this country they have neutered us all.
October 13th, 2021 at 6:17 pm
I think what gets lost in all of this ‘cancel’ stuff is only taking words, even as disgusting as they sometimes are (and not saying Gruden didn’t say horrible things) but it should come down a person’s INTENT.
Getting pissed off at someone running your mouth and insulting them, and in the process (for example) slipping in some sort of name that relates to a gay person, doesn’t mean you hate gay people and therefore should be punished and chastised over this new boogeyman of not clearly defined “hate speech” stuff.
Gruden is clearly a hot head and said some stuff about people that he was pissed off about. But that doesn’t necessarily prove some blanket form of intent such as to hate or wish harm on any specific group of people.
And regardless if they legally became “work emails” that could be disclosed, it DOES matter who he was having the conversation with and who he intended for his communication to be seen by.
October 13th, 2021 at 6:22 pm
Marques,
Exactly. Conservations and rants between friends talking sh!t about other people happens everyday with millions of guys talking between friends. It doesn’t meant any name-calling that was used is a blanket for of INTENT TO HATE all people in such a group that the name that was used belong to. That’s ridiculous.
INTENT matters. Saying inappropriate things doesn’t mean you hate certain groups of people.
October 14th, 2021 at 8:28 am
Can you imagine if anyone today had tweets or emails that said 1/10th of the things Muhammad Ali said about Joe Frazier in front of cameras? But seriously, privately, EVERYONE expects their emails to be, well…..private.