Power Shift In The NFC South

September 19th, 2021

Ugly day for a slimy Saints team

What a doubleheader!

First, Joe so enjoyed watching the Panthers pound the snot out of the Slimy Saints, 26-7, as “Bad Jameis” re-appeared and stumbled in the face of a ferocious Carolina pass rush.

Second, of course, was the Bucs abusing the Falcons despite not playing their best game.

Joe confidently can say the Panthers’ pass rush is the real deal. That’s 10 sacks and 21 quarterback hits through two weeks for Carolina, and the Saints’ offensive line is a stout group. Even All-Pro right tackle Ryan Ramcyzk was beaten today.

Something else you don’t see every day? Alvin Kamara rushing 8 times for 5 yards. Five!

Sam Darnold seems to have a nice feel for the Panthers offense already and he appears more dangerous than his predecessor Teddy Bridgewater, but they’re certainly not a special group.

After watching the Saints the past two weeks, Joe can say their offense looks tentative, even when they put up all those points against Green Bay on opening day. Something is missing and, yeah, Joe realizes they have a lot of injuries.

Regardless, the Bucs and Panthers are standing tall as the undefeated members of the NFC South. Carolina heads to Houston on Thursday night, and the Bucs and Panthers play each other in Weeks 15 and 17.

Hey, this video look familiar?

66 Responses to “Power Shift In The NFC South”

  1. mark2001 Says:

    Jameis was Jameis. I think he had a QB rating of about 27 this week….fall behind…pressure….mistakes… the formula that seems to work about 90 percent of the time.

  2. Buxszntkt Says:

    Who can convert this Jameis rollout and throw into a GIF

  3. Winny Testaverde Says:

    Almost as fun to watch the Saints lose as it is to watch the Bucs win. Almost…

  4. MadMax Says:


    yeah, yeah, yeah…who dat? hahaha….

    um, i care why because i care to watch him continue to fail since he failed us…


    Some just dont fkn get it…its our rival aints this time…whose next?

  5. SB Says:

    Who cares about JW anymore? We almost hung a 50 burger on the Falcons!

  6. Swampbuc Says:

    In fairness, JaMiss’ first pick was as time was expiring, sort of. I mean it wasn’t even returned for a TD. Nice punt.

  7. Swampbuc Says:

    Love that the Aints got their aints beat.

  8. SteveK Says:

    LFG Bucs!

    GOAT Life, let’s roll!

  9. ModHairKen Says:

    All I know is this. From 1976 until 2020, the best QB was Doug Williams. Everyone else was mediocre to bad. That’s a lot of suffering. A lot. Trent. Vinny. Jameis. Those were the anointed ones who were going to turn things around.

    Then, by some stroke of Divine Intervention, all the things that needed to aligned, and the Bucs ended up with the undisputed greatest QB in history. And he brings along a Top 5 all time TE. This has happened before to other teams and it usually does not work out. Manning is the only one.

    And now the Bucs have won 10 games in a row. Sometimes while playing very poorly.

    Anyone who is a Buc fan, this is as good as it gets. Those TD passes today were superhuman.

    Everyone, please just enjoy this moment. And be thankful.

    Thank you Glazers
    Thank you Todd Licht
    Thank you Bruce Arians
    Thank you Bill Belichick
    Thank you Mr. Kraft
    Thank you Mr. Gronkowski
    Thank you Mr. Tom Brady.

  10. Natron Says:

    I don’t see Jameis as the Saints starter for the full season, then it’s Taysom time. But who cares who starts for the Aints, we’re going 2-0 against them this season for sure!

  11. Hodad Says:

    Jameis who?

  12. Miller5252 Says:

    Once the Panther hit 17 I told my kid you watch, here comes the old Winston. There’s that pick! How about that left handed throw right off his lineman’s head?? Look out for the Panthers D, looking really strong.

  13. Irishmist Says:

    I watched the game and the Carolina defensive line is the real deal. They can really get after the passer but they are a little bit on the light side. I think the way to beat them is to run right at them, especially Brian Burns. Put Gronk on the same side with Donovan and Ali marpet and just keep running his way until you wear him out, with the occasional short quick pass thrown in.

  14. JimmyJack Says:

    The Saints getting destroyed was the cherry on top. After watching these two clips it pretty much confirms Winston arent no different then he was here………The bottom clip of him getting sacked and making the dumbest decision possible used to bring me much agony. I am very thrilled to see its now the Saints problem.

  15. webster Says:

    Joe i agree. The panthers are not special but they seem to be well coached and thats key. I watched that game and they never did anything to derail their situation at hand. I mean they knew the saints were depleted. Their top 2 wr are hurt. 5 of their starters on defense were hurt ie lattimore, kwon, davenport, a stud DT etc. Then they dont have their starting center. Fox showed a graphic of about 12 key players out plus a lot of their coaching staff was out due to covid. The saints played as if they knew they were behind the 8 ball. Nevermind they are practicing wherever they can. Injuries are the great equalizer. Lets pray the bucs stay relatively healthy. The injuries in the cornerback room scares me

  16. SteveK Says:

    Ndog, is that you? Per a Saints blog:

    Member since: February 23, 2021
    5 hours ago


    Smh. Let it go bruh. It was just 1 game. If you know anything about football you would understand it wasn’t Jamesis Winston fault. That oline play was absolutely horrible. The wideouts were not getting any separation and the running game was terrible. I know what the narrative is and maybe it will come true but today was not the day to run with that stuff

  17. DavidBigBucFan99 Says:

    I digress to those who called him a bust. Payton can’t coach that out of him no one can. He is what he is. He will never be successful in the NFL. Time to become a carpet salesman. Now let’s all stop talking about him and talk about it Bucs

  18. WestChap Says:

    I’m so confused… are the Packers that bad? Or is Carolina that good?

  19. adam from ny Says:

    by week 15 we should have ample separation from the panthers – one would think – but you never know…

    bad jaboo certainly made a encore today and it was good to see…

    i supported jameis while a buc and wouldn’t mind seeing him do well elsewhere, just not in our division…

    let’s see when jamies and payton dance around in the locker room – it shouldn’t be for quite some time…


  20. Rod Munch Says:

    3rd and 10, 22 seconds left in the half, and Winston tries to make a play – which results in an INT that is basily a hail mary, same as a punt. Yeah, that is the most Winston INT ever, correct. An INT that had no impact on the game, but other QBs would just throw out of bounds and not even try to make a play to protect their stat sheet. HINT: that’s not a good thing.

    To make a big deal about that play is to truly be a special kind of stupid – and it 100% proves my point I made last week, that when Brady threw the half-time hail mary INT, that the idiots on this board, if that was Winston, would say it just the Bucs the game.

    Anywho, the Panthers showed how you beat the Saints, who have no NFL-level WRs. Just play man-to-man and all-out blitz on every play. Their garbage WRs can’t get open, at least not until Michael Thomas is back.

  21. adam from ny Says:



  22. Jerry Says:

    Panthers are playing good defense (10 sacks in 2 weeks). And Darnold is playing just good enough to win games. But, they have only played the Jets and Jameis’s Saints. So a very small sample size. They may win some more games than people thought they would. But unless the Bucs run into problems, Panthers shouldnt be near our win total in week 15.

  23. Tye Says:

    Everyone knew once the Saints get behind, ‘Bad Jameis’ is on the way… He dosn’t disappoint… Well, unless you a fan of the team he is on…
    If he remains their starter past half the season, I’ll be shocked!

    Now the Bucs steam rolling the Falcons, Great day to be a Bucs fan!

  24. Natron Says:

    I still say that Ndog is Jameis!

  25. Tye Says:

    LoL Natron…

    If that’s true, then Ndog (Jameis) surely can’t still be full of himself still messing up another team…

  26. Waterboy Says:


    Ball was on the 37 yard line, how about a field goal try on 4th down rather than that 3rd down “punt”?

  27. Cobraboy Says:

    @Rod: it was not just the int. ATM made numerous dumba$$ head-scratcher decisions in that game.

  28. JayWill Says:

    We knew the hit peace was coming after last week of silence. Bigots going to do what bigots do. Normally Joe wouldn’t allow this nonsense, but Joe thinks it’s important to shine a lot on it.–Joe They were down many people because of covid and injuries…the pick didn’t come until end of 2nd and 4th. Carolina defenders were running free today at Winston because of oline miscues with their starting center out. When Winston has more rushing yards than Kamara your oline had a long day. Its the 2nd game in new system he’ll be fine. Thanks Joes, for winning me 5 grand with this article. You cowards didn’t talk crap to Winston to his face when he was in Tampa. Lovie and Winston must of pissed somebody off. Thanks for the 5,000.
    Joe has no clue where you come up with this nonsense? Especially the bigot line. Joe would never cheer for anyone on the Saints, the Bucs’ hated rival, and it’s that much more fun and interesting and ironic with Jameis as their quarterback. Joe knows of nobody in the media that “talks crap” to a player’s face. What does that even mean? The fact is Joe covered up for Jameis repeatedly, which is the only reason Jameis did the Ira Kaufman Podcast just days before he was suspended by the NFL, at a time when he wasn’t doing interviews. The Bucs and Jameis knew they owed one to JoeBucsFan & Ira Kaufman. There are other examples. Jameis’ record in Tampa stood for itself. Lots of losing, lots of interceptions, a costly suspension, lots of growing pains, and lots of great games and talent flashes in between. –Joe

  29. Jersey buc Says:

    But but Payton is a genius! He never had a running back or a line. 🙄
    He stinks that’s it. He will give you 3-4 good games. Tops. We all seen it for 5 years

  30. Natron Says:

    Speaking of old Buccaneers, it looks Gerald McSofty might be finished

  31. WalkdaPlank Says:

    All the losers on here hoping for a Jameis comeback while he’s still in our division….you love to see it. Jameis being Jameis. Can’t protect the ball or the lead and people wonder why he ain’t here anymore. SMH

  32. lambchop Says:

    The real Jameis comes out when he’s down 14+ points. He will never change my mind. I hope Saints fans have a sh|t ton of Tums. They gonna need it.


  33. Rod Munch Says:

    lambchop Says:
    September 19th, 2021 at 11:21 pm
    The real Jameis comes out when he’s down 14+ points.


    You mean when he tries to win the game and doesn’t worry about trying to protect his stat line?

    Wow, you Mike Glennon backers are demented. Yeah, just go lose by 28, but make sure you got a 0 in the INT category, even if that means not being competitive. LOL!

  34. Rod Munch Says:

    The Ravens doing what a man should do, it’s 4th and 1, you go for it, get the 1st down and win the game. You don’t punt and give the ball to Mahomes like a coward. So many NFL coaches are cowards that would punt there, because you’re not getting fired for punting the ball. But winners win the game, don’t try to run the clock out with 2 mins left in the 3rd quarter like people on this board were wanting to do today.

    That was a fun game to watch.

  35. Rod Munch Says:

    Derrick Henry had 47 fantasy points today? Holy-e Jesus. Prick cost me a W.

  36. Chuck T Says:

    Jameis showing he is trash.

    Throw it into triple coverage and hope it works out has always been the motto.

  37. Oneilbuc Says:

    Jamies haven’t played with 1 starting receiver yet so I can’t judge him right now. You can’t name one of his receivers he’s playing with right now!! So I’m going to wait and see !!

  38. T REX Says:


  39. HomerSimpsonRocks Says:

    So great to see Jameis Winston play like only Jameis can tonight.

  40. Natron Says:

    JaySwill; Yeah, I guess Lovie did piss somebody off, just ask U. of Illinois football fans

  41. All lives matter Says:

    One Joe is a big Winston advocate and the other is not. If I were to guess this article is from the one who is not but the article after last week’s Saints game was from the one who is. I did not say names because I don’t need to. Everyone on these boards already knows who you are. I’m just surprised that the one who is the Winston fan didn’t at least try to soften the blowback but I get it one Joe has to cover the other Joe’s back. …teamwork ..right? What blowback??? LOL FYI, both were written by the same person. Some people read way too much between the lines when there’s nothing there.–Joe

  42. Bucs Orlando Says:

    31….. please get to 31…..

  43. BucsCoolade Says:

    Sam darnold on a new team in a new division.. but still gotta face Brady twice.. lol. Not sure what has him doing better… ? Maybe its mcaffrey.. but their defense seems to be helping alot.

    Classic jets. Switch QBs and look worse while the old one does better. Makes it look like jets botched another year. Ooops.

  44. Waterboy Says:

    I’ll give Winston until no later than week 10 before Payton turns the page on him and goes with Hill or the rookie.

  45. lambchop Says:

    @Rod Munch,

    No, you dolt. When he plays careless. He is Mr. Check Yo Sheets, though.

    Jameis is a front-runner. The guy crumbles under pressure or tries to be Mahomes, minus the talent.

    You think “not caring about the stat line” won’t get him benched? Lmao.

  46. lambchop Says:

    @Rod Munch,

    Let it be known that you’re a Jameis homer. All you gotta do is look at how the QB position is supposed to be played RIGHT HERE with Tom Brady.

    For example, Jameis’s pick on the throw which looked like him throwing into triple coverage – that was actually the right read since his WR was behind the coverage. But, the dude rolled to his left to avoid pressure, exposed himself to outside pressure, and gave precious time to let DBs recover. What would Brady do in that situation? Slide to the left to avoid the pressure (not roll out) and quickly put the ball in the hands of the WR in stride.

    Jameis is a hammer trying to push a thumbtack. He doesn’t have the nuance to be consistently good over time. He’s careless, sloppy, over-compensates with physical ability rather than mental ability.

    He is literally Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde depending on whether his team is in the lead or he’s trying to play catch up. That’s why he will always suck.

  47. Youngbucs Says:

    Act like something was proven week 1 makes excuses week 2. Winston diehards love the roller coaster. I’m letting this season play but I will always point out the hypocrisy. By the way saints developed a new Hail Mary send 1 guy deep everyone else run shorter routes. By the way it’s 3rd down we’re on the 40 right outside field goal range. And there’s 30 seconds left smh stop the excuses. That was not a hail mary play. It was a bad decision in a critical situational football moment!!

  48. UncleHemorrhoid Says:

    Those pick’s where Winston wings the ball
    downfield with his eyes practically closed, brings back many bad memories. Thankfully he was jettisoned.

  49. gotbbucs Says:

    Par for the course

  50. SufferingSince76 Says:

    LOL! Love the Jameis nut huggers. Keep it coming, losers.

  51. SB~LV Says:

    Payton is about ready to swing the Gong on Jameis. His criticism of Jameis after yesterday were traits that are unfixable … Jameis is running a Gateway 486 processor.

  52. Hodad Says:

    Funny to read Buc fans making apologies for the Saints QB. He didn’t have good receivers, the line didn’t block for him, he had no running game, the interception was like a punt. Please say the excuses for a Saints website. He looked like he did here for the last five years. Good Jameis, bad Jameis, nothing new. Aint’s fans, welcome to the Winston roller coaster. Buckle up. This ride will leave you dazed, and confused.

  53. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    @Rod Munch
    Yes, the Ravens vs Chiefs game was awesome to watch. They did the right thing at 4th and 1, because if Mahomes got the ball back, that would have been it.
    John Harbaugh has balls of Brass!

  54. Anonymous Says:

    I don’t care who the QB is (looking at you, Mahomes), succeeding HOF Brees is a tough one. That said, I was just tickled pink to watch the updates showing the Panthers kicking the crap outta the Aints. So what if NOLA has injuries, Bucs fans know all about being the walking wounded. I hope Sean Payton ends up in last place in the division. That may happen as the Falcons played the Bucs tough for 3 whole quarters. Thank god for Edwards and our D and punting unit. Falcons are NOT cupcakes!!

  55. Rob In Land O Lakes Says:

    Jameis Excuse Lexicon

    Our Defense played bad;
    He has no support from the running game;
    Receiver ran the wrong route. (No one in the history of football apparently has had more receivers run more wrong routes);
    Dirk Koetter can’t develop a QB;
    Todd Monken can’t develop a QB;
    Bruce Arians can’t develop a QB;
    He will finally now get coaching in New Orleans;
    Sitting behind Drew Brees “changed” him;
    The OLine was hurt;
    He doesn’t have good receivers to throw to;
    I decided after my 5th year in the NFL of having vision problems, I decided to go to an eye doctor;
    The Saints coaching staff has Covid;

    Did I miss any?

  56. Richard Dickson Says:

    I was laughing at everyone going wild over Winston’s 5 TDs last week. Four of them were on passes of 10 yards or less on drives where it was the running game that got them down close. One was 56 yards that accounted for over a third of his total passing yards. That was a fluke game by a protected quarterback.

  57. Waterboy Says:

    @Rob In Land O Lakes
    You forgot:
    The play calling is too predictable.
    He has to coach himself.
    WR’s aren’t getting any separation (the weapons for Winston year)
    BA’s no risk it no biscuit style was a bad fit for him.
    He hurt his shoulder in week 2 against AZ.

  58. Natron Says:

    I’m so over this whole Quarterblack thing

  59. BuccaneerScotty Says:

    there it is…

  60. Rob In Land O Lakes Says:

    “@Rob In Land O Lakes
    You forgot:
    The play calling is too predictable.
    He has to coach himself.
    WR’s aren’t getting any separation (the weapons for Winston year)
    BA’s no risk it no biscuit style was a bad fit for him.
    He hurt his shoulder in week 2 against AZ.”

    Well done!

  61. SKBucsFan Says:

    Had to laugh when I read the intro to the Jaymiss video. You don’t even have to know what the outcome of the video highlight to know that there was a good chance the “scrambling for his life Winston” was going to throw an interception. Same ol JW. One good game followed by 3 horrible ones.

  62. Bush's Coke Spoon Says:

    You don’t throw a hail Mary at a time when 3 points will help your team. SMDH

    Filed under: Things you shouldn’t have to explain to people.

  63. TSmitty3000 Says:

    The Saints have a lot of issues. Did anyone notice none of their receivers can separate? The Saints offensive line is a turnstile. They’ll be lucky to be 500 no matter who the QB is

  64. JimbobBucsFan Says:

    lambchop Says:
    September 20th, 2021 at 4:07 am

    Rod Munch, Lambchop, here’s how I see it regarding TB sliding to left vs JW scrambling to the left.

    Brady has his eyes down field the whole time. Winston takes a second to see where he is going. Winston is throwing blind for an instant whereas Brady sees what he is doing.

    Just to try to make my point clearer. If you watch Patrick Mahomes scramble you will see him looking down field the entire time while he is moving.

    Subtle points that make all of the difference in a QBs play over a career.

  65. unbelievable Says:

    Eh, there’s plenty to bash Jameis for, but that interception was basically a Hail Mary.

    20 seconds left in the half… didn’t Brady do the same thing last week?

  66. bucsfaninOregon Says:

    Are you guys waiting for Ndog to show up? I’ve been waiting for 2 years after he predicted 13-3 in 2019.
    Makes sense that he moved to a Saints’ blog. He is going to have another tough year.