Did Bucs Learn From History?
February 19th, 2021
It’s called “rings,” baby.
This is just fascinating recent NFL history. It also makes Joe wonder if the braintrust of the Bucs knew this when they jumped in the deep end of the pool for a 43-year old quarterback.
Obviously, Bucs fans and employees are still a bit hungover — happily so — from the Bucs winning the Super Bowl. At this time last year, the idea of that happening seemed as realistic as Rachel Watson walking through the front door after a day lounging on Indian Rocks Beach.
Well, noted football handicapper and stathead Warren Sharp, and his staff (namely Tucker Bagley), dug up this crazy stat:
Since Brad Johnson led the Bucs to a Super Bowl win in January 2003, only twice has a team won the Super Bowl with a quarterback who was drafted six-or-more years before the Super Bowl win.
All championship quarterbacks but two, since 2003, were either repeat champs or the QB was drafted within five years of winning the Super Bowl.
For example, at this time last year, Mr. Entertainment, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, had just completed his fifth and best season in the NFL, yet was watching the playoffs like the rest of us.
Meanwhile, a guy who had six rings to his name was hitting the open market.
Only Drew Brees and Peyton Manning were quarterbacks since Brad Johnson to win the Super Bowl outside the five-year window of being drafted. And both are Hall of Famers.
So bucking 21st-century history of the NFL, the Bucs had a better shot at capturing the Vince Lombardi Trophy with a 43-year old quarterback who had rings in his jewelry case rather than banking on a quarterback who despite leading the NFL in yards thrown, had yet to take a snap in a playoff game in his five-year career.
This is just a wild stat to Joe.
if a QB doesn’t lead his team to a Super Bowl in his first 5 seasons as a starter, he likely never will
since 2003 it’s been nothing but these guys & when they repeat…
only exceptions has been 1st ballot HOFers Manning & Brees@TBagleySports digs inhttps://t.co/d0pGt1nv92 pic.twitter.com/dn60fHr8og
— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) February 19, 2021
February 19th, 2021 at 12:55 pm
Probably has a lot to do with their salary hamstringing the team. I think it also provides a good case for building up a team and then bringing the right qb I. (although can be easier said than done without premium draft picks). History seems to suggest a terrible team (especially one that can’t protect him) will often ruin a good prospect
February 19th, 2021 at 12:58 pm
That is very interesting
February 19th, 2021 at 1:04 pm
Hahahaha! Jaymiss always enjoys the Ms. Rachel Watson nods from Joe…..Ole gal is easy on the eyes too!
February 19th, 2021 at 1:05 pm
Am sure.
February 19th, 2021 at 1:05 pm
Cobra is onto a big part of it with the salary driving a change in teams.
Plus you have to lead your team to the playoffs to have a shot at leading them to the SB. So there’s that.
Remember Foles beat Brady. Some of these wild things are anomalies.
Eli Manning beat Brady twice. The rest of his stay in NY, not so impressive.
February 19th, 2021 at 1:05 pm
Winston will lead the Saints to 8-8
February 19th, 2021 at 1:13 pm
I’m putting money on Jdub and the Saints for the SB this year. TB salary has hamstrung this team!
February 19th, 2021 at 1:13 pm
It names the Qb but I bet those defense were stellar or became stellar at the right time. Those are not weak teams lead by godly Qbs as the narrative says
February 19th, 2021 at 1:16 pm
When the cap is set there will be corresponding contract restructuring that helps this team get the appropriate funds to bring almost everyone back.
February 19th, 2021 at 1:19 pm
Robert
😂
I hope you are kidding
Saints are around 70 mil over cap
Worse then any team salary by a mile
Wow. And jdub SB
Robert is smoking something today
February 19th, 2021 at 1:19 pm
Robert … “I’m putting money on Jdub and the Saints for the SB this year. TB salary has hamstrung this team!”
I’d love to take part of that bet Robert. Saints are in FAR WORSE salary CAP condition than the Bucs are (as in they’re #32 out of, oh ya, 32 teams).
February 19th, 2021 at 1:23 pm
jameis threw 30 picks last year before his fumbles lost. carson wentz who lead the league this year in total giveaways at 19. dont tell me turnovers dont matter. doesnt matter if you rack up 5000 yards playing from behind due mainly to your own mistakes. the fact wentz had less than 2/3 of the turnovers jameis had last year just screams to how far this guy was holding the team back. boggles my mind
February 19th, 2021 at 1:41 pm
@Robert: Brady’s $25mil. is a serious bang-for-the-buck deal. It’s cheap.
I’m not sure America’s Turnover Machine can beat out T. Hill.
February 19th, 2021 at 2:49 pm
Robert that will be money wasted bro believe that.
February 19th, 2021 at 3:25 pm
I am in on taking Roberts money as well – I guess I am 4th or 5th in line.
February 19th, 2021 at 3:50 pm
Was it a tough decision? Brady for 25M for 2 years or Jameis 30M long term. Don’t really think so.
February 20th, 2021 at 12:30 am
That sure explains all the movement with quarterbacks between drafted in the first round between 2009 – 2016 …
None of them are on the same team that drafted.
February 21st, 2021 at 10:02 pm
Tell me, how many players with Brady pedigree will play for 25 M per year?
Even Winston asked for more if I understand it well, no? And JW don’t have 1 ring.
C’on. Brady is not the QB who crushed the hopes of his teams with his high salary. On the contrary, his relatively low salaries helped NE and our BUCS to land good football players with him.
Brady make a choice. He decided to have a lower salary and have better good players around him to win games. And he decided to play a safer game with faster deliveries to avoid big hits. It paid of, because he won a lot of games, and could stay longer in the game. Finally he played so long he made big $! What? 400M? I don’t know, but the trick to win all that $ was his longevity! And with this strategy he won a lot of games too! He have a HOF career, no doubts!
The guy is smart. And we can see it when we look at his wife,… Wow! Ha! Ha!
GO BUCS!
February 22nd, 2021 at 9:46 am
You could argue adding Foles to the list since Wentz was injured for playoff run.