Bruce Arians And Trauma Recovery
November 9th, 2020
Joe is using this photo to illustrate that the Bucs did, in fact, make a great play last night, a strip sack by Shaq Barrett.
Joe wrote about this a few times when Bucco Bruce Arians was hired 22 months ago by Team Glazer, and it’s worth revisiting today.
Arians had a whale of a Cardinals team in 2015. They finished 13-3 and won a playoff game before losing in the NFC Championship. It was the last time Arians coached a playoff game.
To start the 2016 season, those mighty Cardinals were scheduled to play Tom Brady and the Belicheats on Sunday Night Football in Arizona. They hype was on and Arians’ team was drooling to take down New England. But the Cardinals lost 23-21 and blew a chance to win on a late field goal.
What’s most interesting about that game is Arians has said in multiple interviews that his Cardinals never really recovered from the crushing loss. Even though they bounced back a week later to beat the Bucs 40-7 (what a morgue that Bucs locker room was), Arians still maintained the opening day kick in the groin was something his team never quite dug out of.
That’s a very power claim considering those Cardinals had what likely will be four future Hall of Famers in Larry Fitzgerald, Calais Campbell, Patrick Peterson and Tyrann Matthieu.
After last night’s horrible embarrassment courtesy of the slimy Saints, Joe is wondering today about what Arians learned about recovering from a crushing loss.
That’s unclear. And it’s not like Todd Bowles can teach him much about that. On the brink of making the playoffs, Bowles’ Jets had a crushing loss to close the 2015 season, and his team then was dreadful for three consecutive seasons before he got fired.
This current state of the Bucs represents a huge test for Arians. He’s got to pull the Bucs out of whatever funk caused the Tampa Bay crapshow last night, and its sputtering against the Giants. Arians has said the team has been practicing great. So either he doesn’t have a good read on the club or something else is off.
Regardless, it must be fixed immediately. Coach has to find a way to completely bury Sunday’s loss so deeply that not even the most cynical Bucs fan can unearth it.
November 9th, 2020 at 9:31 am
The only way to get past it is by winning the next three games. It’s a tall order but not impossible. @ Panthers, Rams, chiefs and then the bye.
November 9th, 2020 at 9:33 am
A way to fix it is to beat Carolina…….we do that by playing a very, very aggressive defense……jam WRs on the line……man coverage…….blitz…
On offense…….load up the line with TEs & extra linemen……run, run, run…
Short passes……dink & dunk…
And….as always….shut down McCaffery.
November 9th, 2020 at 9:34 am
BA just gave sean his booty….he didnt put up a fight or nothing…lol…
BA just showed up and dropped his pants
GO BUCS!!!!
November 9th, 2020 at 9:35 am
How many games is this now we have seen the offense have trouble? How about he gets involved?
November 9th, 2020 at 9:38 am
Arians first mistake in his Bucs tenure was letting Leftwhich call plays.
BL is a joke of an OC….he has no identity and 0 rhythm to his play calling.
The coaching is exposed top to bottom. This isn’t about talent, the Bucs have plenty that unlike in years past.
November 9th, 2020 at 9:40 am
Like many, I was stunned by the Saints game. Have read a lot of the good comments on the “why” of this game on this site. My overall view is that it is the coaching, not the players. As I watched Brees disect the Bucs D with crisp short passes (I think he was 12 for 14 at first), I thought that we have seen this before – by NO and others. Why are the Bucs so susceptible to such a scheme? And why don’t they do it? I am not too astute on the details (just a casual observer) but many of your fine contributors have attributed it to a zone defense. If that is indeed the case, why didn’t the coaches immediately change a scheme that obviously doesn’t work? The Saints’ WRs had no trouble getting open for the quick, short, pass. But the Bucs’ WRs couldn’t do the same – hence coverage sacks. Isn’t this on the coaches? And are they smart enough to make changes before it is too late?
November 9th, 2020 at 9:41 am
813…. time for BL to look in the mirror…..And then hand over play calling duties to someone else.
November 9th, 2020 at 9:44 am
Tampabaybucsfan, I agree. What’s the worst that can happen? Whatever it is it can’t be worse than last night’s passively feeble display.
November 9th, 2020 at 9:52 am
Remind me again what exactly Grandpa Bucco Bruce Arians has ever won as a head coach??
November 9th, 2020 at 9:52 am
The whole thing was about Marpet being out. It shows how shallow our depth is. The O-line was a more effective sieve than my colander.
It will be hard for the Bucs to make the playoffs if missing one piece can cause the entire team to collapse, election strain or not.
November 9th, 2020 at 9:56 am
Credit to Saints. They were smarter, more physical, more prepared. They came to our house, slapped our women around and called them dirty whores while we just stood back and watched like a bunch cucs. Why we played a soft zone when brees hasn’t thrown a deep pass in 2yrs in beyond me. We go from talk of the media to national laughingstock, and we deserve every ounce of shade we will have coming to us. That was about the most embarrassing loss I can ever remember. People talk about how losses happen, yes – of course they do. But great teams, super bowl never ever EVER get pantsed the way the Bucs did last night. You have to go back to 2003 when the patriots got embarrassed like that. We’re just a bunch of pirate clowns 🤡
November 9th, 2020 at 10:05 am
Something has to be done with our secondary outside of Carlton Davis, Antoine Winfield, and Sean Murphy Bunting the back end can not hold up in games with good receivers if our d line does not get pressure…B.A. is a coach that can deal with problematic players well Earl Thomas is an upgrade to everyone in our secondary and so is Eric Reid. There are better corners than ours as well sitting at home and it’s time to consider doing something about our main weakness which is our secondary!
November 9th, 2020 at 10:09 am
I am so tired of our Tall, Fast and Physical DBs playing 8 yards off the WR….WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY give cushions or zone schemes to a future Hall of Fame QB
I am SOOOOOOO tired of it.
When this Defense plays aggressive we dominate.
November 9th, 2020 at 10:16 am
Pa – I guess that is the main takeaway from last night’s debacle.
November 9th, 2020 at 10:17 am
Pa WHY WHY WHY is right, the gave the team no chance against a Hall of Fame QB. GO BUCS!!!!
November 9th, 2020 at 10:17 am
tbbucs3
you can say the same about bowles…
they were both equally horrible last night….
GO BUCS!!!!
November 9th, 2020 at 10:19 am
tbbucs3
hard to say BL was a mistake when we finished #3 in offense year and before last night we were #4….
every coach on the staff sucked last night…
GO BUCS!!!!
November 9th, 2020 at 10:27 am
Its jameis fault.
November 9th, 2020 at 10:51 am
Bruce Arians ain’t won nothing as a head coach . I told yall he is not a good coach because he’s not even coaching this team .
November 9th, 2020 at 10:57 am
the “bend over” bucs took it jail house style last night…
they got housed…
ransacked…
mowed over…
sonned…
spanked and banged…
used like a whore on pills…
sisssified…
punked on national tv…
i’m just going to let it go now and move past this…hopefully they can too…
as i mentioned a few days ago regarding this game:
i said if they lose to the saints and win the next 3 it’s not a bad thing at all…
i said if they stay in schedule and lose one, then win 3 all is fine…
they have been doing that all season…right from the start…
lose one and win 3…check the schedule yourself…
so if they continue everything is fine…and they will finish 12-4 and i say that gives them the division title…
but now to stay on schedule they have to defeat carolina on the road, then come home for victories over the rams and chiefs…
it’s possible, but a tall order…
and last nights loss might have really damaged the team’s psychy…
they might not be the same after last nights molestation…
can they recover from the walloping and lathering they received last night???????
anyway…
if they do win the next 3 and stay on schedule all is good…
then 3 out of the last 4 in the 4th quarter of the schedule seams feasible as well…
i would see wins vs detroit and minn, with a split of the series with hotlanta…
12-4 will most likely win the division for the bucs…
if they can put this national fiasco behind them
#ThisWasAyeShockingPerformanceForAllBucsFansToWitness
#AndNonBucsFansMustThinkThisTeamIsStraightJunk
#TheSaintsArentEvenThatGood
also…on the bright side…it’s not easy to beat a team 3 times in one season…so the bucs definitely have that on their side if we meet again in the playoffs
November 9th, 2020 at 11:04 am
weve seen this team before- with a few exceptions- since its inception. what an embarrassment for the fans.. and the team. pretty dismal-pretty pathetic. absolute chaos- guess were not who we thought we were? this team , if nothing else, should imagine how it will feel if the saints are representing nfc in our stadium. how will that taste?? pretty damn rotten. someone better figure it out quick
November 9th, 2020 at 11:07 am
can’t blame it on the penalties this time, they got outcoached.
need to have the weapons on the field to audible. 4 wide WR sets with Tyler johnson or Scotty in there and Gronk stick to blocking. He may be a beast, but they are on to him, and I don’t care what anyone says….he has slowed tremendously and it shows on some of TB’s overthrows…..and really anything more than 10-15 yards.
November 9th, 2020 at 11:10 am
So much for the bucs and their 50 mil man being in this yrs Superbowl. They will be doing the same as us fans…sitting on the couch watching the tube. Being beaten by the Saints twice this year means they own us..lock stock and barrel. Period.
November 9th, 2020 at 11:16 am
a loss is a loss, demoralizing it should be- these bucs might stop listening to the press. same old bucs.
November 9th, 2020 at 11:21 am
That LT is trash. Missing Marpet was big…wasnt going to drink…started heavily 10 min in
November 9th, 2020 at 11:23 am
That was the worst Bucs game since Lovie Smith’s infamous “Tennessee Ready” debacle, and this might be worse considering the talent level on this squad!
November 9th, 2020 at 11:28 am
They not only got out coached but got out played on both sides of the ball for all the world to see. Way to go losers. Arians will not admit that Lefty is not a good OC. As a matter of fact he is terrible. But knowing Mr. alibi Arians he will stick with him because he will say it wasn’t the play calling. It will be the bad weather or they were wearing the wrong colored uniforms or whatever else kind of BS he can come up with. I truly believe the game has past him by. I don’t care who the coaches are or who the players are its the same BS year after year. Its pretty much been that way since the Gruden years.
November 9th, 2020 at 11:32 am
what was worst than any game lovie or dirk ever coached by far….
they didnt have the GOAT and a defense….
panthers game will be the biggest game of the year…sad….
GO BUCS!!!!!
November 9th, 2020 at 11:40 am
Bruce needs to get the hell out of that golf cart and do some work!!!
November 9th, 2020 at 11:50 am
Jameis was smiling like a possum last night
November 9th, 2020 at 12:09 pm
BA acts like an observer, just standing there mouth breathing on teh sideline. Get out of your golf cart and kick some arse. This team looked soft and disinterested on national TV supposedly “fighting” for the division. And why did Brady look completely blank last night?
November 9th, 2020 at 12:22 pm
Play man to man. I would rather see us get beat that way then inch by inch. Bruce looked like he had a corn cob stock up his arse while standing on the side lines. I hope the owner has already had Bruce in their office and told him if we see another performance like we just witnessed just get in your car and drive away. Put Byron in the back seat because both of you are no longer wanted or needed at One Buc Place. Most embarrassing lost in Buc history.
November 9th, 2020 at 12:30 pm
That mouth breathing might be a sign of Bruce’s inability to stand for that long
November 9th, 2020 at 1:11 pm
Everyone talking about play calling is hilarious. Plays don’t work if the other team is playing in your backfield the whole game.
5 guys got consistently beat by 4. Elite teams don’t let that happen. Both lines got whooped. If they don’t fix that, it’s a wrap…
November 9th, 2020 at 2:21 pm
Conspiracy theory time: what intel did Jameis take to NO with him? They certainly seemed impressed with his brief performance in the locker room. I’d assert that dancing and whooping a guy who came on, threw a pass and then knelt three times, was a bit excessive…
November 9th, 2020 at 5:38 pm
The defense was horrible and Brady was totally ineffective. Some of that was the fault of the O-line. If Brady keeps getting beaten up like he did last night, he may be finishing his career a lot sooner than he had planned. And I agree with all who have said that the talent is there, but the coaching isn’t.
November 10th, 2020 at 12:27 am
Tbbucs3 Says:
November 9th, 2020 at 9:38 am
Arians first mistake in his Bucs tenure was letting Leftwhich call plays.
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Amen