Tom Brady Still Top-10

June 16th, 2020

Street cred.

Former Bucs quarterback Chris Simms believes park-violating, home-invading Bucs quarterback Tom Brady is just average.

It seems a guy who types about the NFL for a living thinks Brady hasn’t slipped that much.

Sean Wagner-McGough of CBS Sports decided to jump in the pool with just about everyone else and put together a list.

June and July is the season for lists.

In looking at his top-10 NFL quarterbacks, Wagner-McGough considers Brady at No. 9.

Like with Big Ben, there are plenty of reasons to be concerned with Brady’s outlook in 2020. For one, he’ll be 43 when the new season kicks off. Two, he’s already shown signs of declining after a 2019 season that saw him throw for 4,057 yards (his lowest total since his 2016 Deflategate suspension season), 24 touchdowns (his lowest total since his 2008 torn ACL season), eight interceptions, and an 88.0 passer rating (his lowest rating since 2013). By [various measures], he graded out as an average quarterback, ranking 17th.

But Brady snuck his way onto the list because he’s no longer in New England on an offense devoid of playmakers. In Tampa Bay, he gets to work with Bruce Arians while throwing to Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Rob Gronkowski, O.J. Howard, and Cameron Brate, arguably the deepest and best receiving group of Brady’s entire career. That’s why I’m projecting a bounce-back season for Brady. Unlike Rodgers, Brady is now getting the help he needs in the later stages of his career.

Joe has a strong feeling the Bucs offense will be alright. It may not be as exciting or high-flying as it was last year, but it should be fine.

All the weapons Brady has will help drag him down the field, not unlike Peyton Manning in his final years in Denver.

But it sure would be nice to have a semblance of a run game, no? If Brady remains upright for the full season, Joe’s not worried about the Bucs’ passing game.

14 Responses to “Tom Brady Still Top-10”

  1. stpetebucsfan Says:

    “Peyton Manning in his final years in Denver.”

    Exactly! And so who cares if TB12 is as good as his 28 year old self…he isn’t.

    But he has more than enough left in the tank and his years of experience and smart play will offset any physical deficiencies.

    Meanwhile we are watching the inevitable changing of the guard…not just Brady and not just his age…his style of play is going out of fashion. So Aaron Rodgers is nearing the end along with Rivers, Big Ben, Matty Ice and some others like Flacco who have already started their slide.

    The new style will be the ROP guys…or at minimum guys who can run with the ball..Mahomes…Wilson..Jackson and others. It used to be sacrilegious to run your QB on purpose with any frequency because of injury issues.

    Randall Cunningham and Cam tried to use their size and it worked for them for awhile but the beating takes it’s toll.

    Michael Vick was the only running QB I recall who did it with speed and moves and not size….although Fran Tarkenton was certainly not afraid to scramble.

    The Brady model is no longer the favored but it can still be very effective. Phillip Rivers will be another guy to watch playing the “old” style.

  2. Anonymous Says:

    I hope Joe’s version of “alright” is long drives mixed with splash plays, eating clock, scoring when required, and not turning the ball over 35 times.

    With an improved early-season defense, that should be good for at least 4 more wins than in 2019.

    One difference between Manning and Brady at this point ion their careers: Manning was coming off a serious neck injury. Brady is healthy.

  3. Mike Says:

    We should have kept 3!!!!!!!!! The next ten years are lost!!!!!!!!!! When will the sheep wake up!!!!!!!!!!! I got it El sucko.

  4. Joe Says:

    One difference between Manning and Brady at this point ion their careers: Manning was coming off a serious neck injury. Brady is healthy.

    Manning’s neck injury happened in Indianapolis. He had a couple of really good years in Denver. His last season was a shell of himself.

  5. BringBucsBack Says:

    Mike, you’re left out a few exclamation points!!!!!!!;)

  6. BringBucsBack Says:

    “You “

  7. SOEbuc Says:

    Brady #5 QB in 2018. Receiver’s will push the ball down field except we have The greatest QB of all time, reads defense, and doesn’t throw 30 interpretation so if anyone wants to tell me we should’ve kept OleThirdString, I don’t understand. We will draft a rookie QB early in the next two years so the sheep and bandwagonders that say this is must win are chumps.

    Sam Ellingher(Texas)2021. Built like Tom. Broke the big 12 record for snaps without interception. Can put it anywhere on the field and amazing run ability.

    GO BUCS!!!

  8. Cobraboy Says:

    Joe Says:

    Manning’s neck injury happened in Indianapolis. He had a couple of really good years in Denver. His last season was a shell of himself.

    Of course he injured his neck in Indy, the main reason Indy didn’t want him back.

    HE wanted to play, like Brady wants to play.

    I would argue that Brady at this point in his career is in better physical shape than Manning was.

    Will it last forever? Of course not. But as you pointed out, Manning had some juice left in Denver when most of the “experts” (aren’t we sick of listening to “experts” yet?) wrote him off.

    I, for one, would be ecstatic for a couple of good years from the graybeard GOAT.

    Especially after the pathetic QBing we have endured the last five years, eating W’s, “ballin'” and all…

    (Cleared my cookies, forgot to log on, Mea Culpa)

  9. Bucsfanman Says:

    We don’t need to be the #1 offense….in passing yards to succeed.
    Brady will be just fine. Besides, I could deal with a lot less “entertainment”, if you know what I mean!

  10. Buczilla Says:

    If our wide outs and Brady stay healthy, he’ll be talked about being a top 3 guy at this time next year.

  11. Iamabuc Says:

    I’m making a list of all these naysayers know-it-alls to look back at come November…. I for one, I’m all in….if you’re truly a Buc; you should just stop all the negativity and get on this year’s bandwagon because it’s now or never and we haven’t looked this good as a team (again , in paper) and haven’t had this much talent in a loooong time…so let the season begins and let the chips fall were they may….just Go Bucs!!

  12. El Buco Realisto Says:

    Hard to believe “that joe is not worried” for the passing game to “regress” for the second year in a row!!!!!!!!!!!!! That would be a real issue to what is left of ole stale biscuit tattered reputation!!!!!!!!!!!!! In fact, it might be a call for dismissal of the head coach!!!!!!!!!!

    go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  13. SOEbuc Says:

    Iamabuc…It’s the nationalist sheep that have no clue about the Bucs. This being possibly the biggest bang in FA history with no OTAs, they only talk Brady and Gronk. They don’t even know Wirfs and Wienfield Jr were drafted. Vaughn has the all around skill set for RB.

    They ALL say 9 to 10 wins because that’s the least wins there is for this team. 12-4/13-3. “I was just a couple of wins away.”-Max Kellerman. Shannon Sharp is such an idiot he’ll say he had Brady’s back the hole time if we have a good season.


    GO BUCS!!!

  14. Clean House Says:

    The team should have tried to sign Winston as Brady’s backup for a few years.
    I, and I believe most of you would have been pretty happy about that.

    I am excited and interested to see Brady, just like I would have been if it were Manning or Farve. It’s hard to argue with legends. It is entertaining and sometimes they do still have some juice.

    I just really don’t like the way the JW situation was handled.

    I can try to elaborate on it but I won’t. I lost all respect for Licht and BS (even though I have been onto the whisperer from the get go). and I’m not a fan of them. I root for the Bucs in spite of them. I do like what Bowles is doing on defense and I do like some Licht’s attention toward toughness of late. I’m a big Suh and JPP fan.

    Question- if Licht gets to be up and down- at best- learn from trial and error, and middle his way through? Why wasn’t the same luxury afforded to Winston?
    Answer- because Licht naturally covers his own behind and puts his own career before the Bucs. He gets a pass for all of hi nonsense and JW gets scapegoated. It’s disgusting. And Bs? The propoganda master? The self proclaimed whisperer? He quickly pushes blame far away from his self made reputation by screening himself with others resumes or by “retiring” when he’s losing! What better way to cover his short window and outro than with The only six time Super Bowl winner- who can really blame him if he doesn’t win. He did the best he could right? WRONG. Dude doesn’t coach anymore- he delegates everything- he’s a joke- I want a guy who burns at both ends as a coach.

    I’m one of the fools who actually does like the concept of football family, but that doesn’t exist in this franchise. Sometimes it’s brutally apparent.

    Unless we go deep into the playoffs or somehow win the super bowl, I think it was a mistake.