Bruce Arians’ Son Talks Jameis Winston’s Departure

May 12th, 2020

Remember those backhanded blasts at the Tampa Bay coaching staff from America’s Backup Quarterback, Jameis Winston, the former Pro Bowler and NFL-convicted-crotch-groper who led the Bucs for the past five seasons?

Bruce Arians’ son does.

Jake Arians is one of Joe’s favorite analysts. He’s blunt, concise, passionate and informed. Seriously, Joe’s not stroking anyone here. Joe’s been listening to Arians’ TDN Fantasy football podcast since Bruce Arians was hired to coach the Bucs.

On a recent episode, the younger Arians weighed in on Jameis heading to the Saints, and Arians was no fan of Jameis’ pokes at his past coaches.

“I was [surprised],” Jake Arians said of Jameis signing in New Orleans. “I mean, he’s infatuated with Drew Brees. He loves Drew Brees. I get that he wanted to step back, but basically it said he didn’t have any really options to go be a starter. And then the best backup role would be, ‘Ok. I know this division well. If I have to play, I’ve already done gameplans against a lot of these [teams].’

“The money was ridiculous; I can’t believe how much more money [Marcus] Mariota got to be a just-backup than Jameis is getting to be a co-backup, or whatever the hell they’re calling it. And look, I wish him the best, he’s a good kid. You know, he’s trying to blow up his new team and he’s made a couple of mistakes along the way. But the Bucs have moved on and we wish him nothing but the best. It was an interesting landing spot. …”

“Apparently Drew Brees and Sean Payton know more about quarterback play than everybody else in the world, so he’s going to sit back and learn a ton, and won’t have to Google it. His words, not mine.”

Yes, Jameis, after signing with the Saints, painted himself as a former lone wolf QB student needing Google to assist him. (See link above) It was a funny comment, and certainly one that sounded like Jameis is no fan of his past coaches.

Regardless, Jake Arians thinks Jameis has a viable future in the NFL.

“Jameis Winston is much better than Marcus Mariota in every offense,” he added, noting how Mariota is earning much more than Jameis has Chucky’s backup. “There was no [starting] market [for Jameis] which shocked me, to be honest with you.”

Maybe Jameis will learn a ton in New Orleans. Different voices might be what Jameis needs. Not every teacher fits every student.

Also, Brees should be an incredible influence. As a rookie, the Bucs gave Jameis two years of Mike Glennon from which to learn, and then they gave him two years of Ryan Fitzpatrick. It seems Jameis learned how to become a backup.

173 Responses to “Bruce Arians’ Son Talks Jameis Winston’s Departure”

  1. Geno711 Says:

    Sorry, Joe doesn’t include large pieces of others’ work in the comments, and especially without attribution. –Joe

  2. Geno711 Says:

    And more

    Those high performers, despite what people might think, they want to be coached.

    And I think we’ll find that Tom wants to be coached on everything. The average ones think it’s all about the scheme, you just roll the ball out, ‘Hey I know how to take a three-step drop.’ The great ones don’t think that way, and that’s what differentiates these cats. To me, it’s exciting. I’d be shocked if Brady doesn’t want to be coached all the time. He impresses me as a guy who always wants to get better.

  3. Geno711 Says:

    SORRY I like to talk about Tom Brady more than America’s QB

  4. DoooshLaRue Says:

    When you accept the FACT that JayMiss is an IDIOT then none of this will surprise you.

    Just wait until he starts alienating his new teammates with his bull.

  5. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    Wish him well but he had plenty of teachers and plenty of voices here. If its a matter of JW maturing and listening to those voices then who knows when that happens; maybe this step off the cliff will change him for the better. I hold no ill will towards him, if he was here I’d be rooting for him. He isn’t. I’m a Buc fan, not a Winston fan – I root for whoever we have behind center and hope the rest of the division loses every week.

  6. 813bucboi Says:

    when we get that W week1, i hope some of the bucs tell JW “google that”…

    GO BUCS!!!!!

  7. nfl fan Says:

    Nothing wrong having a job that pays $1.1M, even as backup holding paper clips and passing water to Brees, perhaps may be a letdown after scoring $60M with the BUCS, still a lot of dough than Joe 6-pack like myself and a lot others.

  8. 541BucsFan Says:

    Winston did a lot of things beyond INTs and Fumbles to earn his way out of Tampa, earn a 2nd-3rd string role, and earn a minimum salary.

    Conversely, Mariota did a lot of things to earn a backup spot and a lot more money. Namely, don’t embarrass yourself/organization in the media. How many times did we hear how great of a teammate Mariota was after he got benched? They even started to integrate him back into the offense the same way the Saints do backup Hill.

    Hopefully Winston can pick up XOs and soft skills from to one of the best ever at both in Brees. Personally, I don’t see it but best of luck all the same.

  9. Anonymous Says:

    The journey of JW continues. I wish him all the best. And I have been sleeping better knowing Brady under center for the Bucs. I call that a win-win situation. (BTW, I bet Glennon a third round pick is getting paid more in Jville).

    In BA I Trust!

  10. BrianBucs Says:

    Winston will become nothing more than a journeyman backup.
    When no other team in the league wants your starter to be their starter, what’s that tell you?
    Winston is just another guy in the league that never lives up to his inflated, overhyped potential

  11. Alaska Abdominal Snowman Says:

    *eyes roll* we are still talking about this ish?

    Offseason sucks!

  12. JimmyJack Says:

    Very happy that Winston is a backup. I’m happy for our fanbase that needs some time off from this guy after 5 full years of arguing.

    Though I could totally see Sean Payton throw him in there for a play on week 1. Especially if they are winning. Seems like something that guy would do.

  13. Cainishere Says:

    Jameis Winsnone has a lot of natural talent mixed with loads of NFL magic within him. He is lucky the Saints picked him up at all. Jameis hurt himself this offseason with all of his negative comments about the Bucs organization. Ever heard of the saying “don’t put down your past, it makes you look bad?” Well here is a prime example. It cost him a lot of money doing that.
    Nobody is going to roll on a player with a sour attitude. Let’s be honest, the Saints picked him up to assist in the dealing with Tampa Bay. You know they will be pumping him for all the info they can squeeze from him. Seeing how Brady is completely different than he is, the Bucs will be a different team this year than ever before so I am not sure how he helps them much. As rough as Brees looked at the end of the season last year it could be a reality that we actually see Winsnone in some games but the Saints will learn what we already know. Jameis can’t win games. Sure he will look like a million bucks but he can’t win games. That’s how it goes. Go BUCS!!!!

  14. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    Before everyone goes all Josh Freeman over, Winston, look at Tanneyhill – he turned his career around. It’s up to JW to take advantage of whatever opportunity presents itself. Only time will tell if he does.

  15. JimmyJack Says:

    Oh and can you pansies quit wishing the guy luck? He is a freaking enemy now. I hope him nothing but utter failure.

    One of the best moment last year was watching McCoy come unglued at Jesen and hurt his team. Give me more of that please.

  16. stpetebucsfan Says:

    So JW had his differences with Jimbo including a suspension. Koetter reportedly did not want JW first and so there was that tension.

    Finally though we get an OC and QB coach that JW himself claims can communicate with him because he has that common experience of being a black NFL QB.

    “Blameless” has more excuses

  17. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Countdown clock started on Ndog…

  18. Chesapeake Bucco Says:

    If JW was the first in and the last to go home and was never outworked as coaches claim, AND havin the likes of Clyde Christianson, Tom freakin Moore, BA and BL coaching him, then the fact that he needed Google to learn might be an indication of limited intelligence and/or attention span, don’t you think?

  19. JimmyJack Says:

    How y’all gonna rail on him for saying he googled how to be a better QB?……..That’s one of the funniest things I’ve heard in a long time.

    Right up there with David Ortiz saying he never had a check swing in his life…….Or there was an old timer once said he could see the stitch on the ball as it was being thrown hahaha…….Some of the BS that’s comes out of the mouthes of this athletes is down right hysterical.

  20. miken Says:

    Was last year winston’s only year in the league?

  21. JimmyJack Says:

    So I had to look it up. It was Ted Williams who said he could see the stitches on the ball.

    Get outta here you liar

  22. Lamarcus Says:

    I don’t how to feel about Jw being on the Saints

    This could come back to haunt like everything else do. Same ppl that said get rid him will be same ones laughing at us for getting rid of him.

  23. chris L Says:

    i dont understand the hate on ryan fitzpatrick. he was a backup. were we supposed to have an NFL starter be jameis’ backup? it isnt like top tier quarterbacks are on the streets. fitzpatrick was a starter last year for arguably one of the worst teams. we have had much worse plan than fitzpatrick. come on now.

  24. Realbucsfan Says:

    Non of you guys were on the team so how do you know how they trained Winston? The QB coach even said they failed Winston. Stop assuming that he was in the best situation because non of those coaches drafted him. Lovie and his staff was all in on Winston and he made pro bowl since then each coach has wanted their guy and he only had bumbs to learn from. He got drafted as a kid he needed a good vet to learn from it sit behind before he got the job. You guys are fans not player personnel or coaches or administrators Winston is gone but don’t have to trash him. He will do better with real opportunity. Not ego maniac coaches

  25. miken Says:

    Jameis going out the door with the whole “i had to google it” …. That comment kinda puts you it the POS/Ahole category. I mean, you can trash BA if you don’t like him, but You had Fitz ( who had to start bc you were suspended), Dirk, Tom Moore, Clyde, Moken… Thats a lot of good Football minds, who have never had much trouble finding work. And lets remeber… BA’s first order of business when he became coach was to make sure there were no other competent QBs in the room last year because #3 was fragile and couldn’t take any real compettion.

  26. Howard Cosell Says:

    @ Joe

  27. Howard Cosell Says:

    Lol…*gets popcorn and soda ready*

  28. DBS Says:

    This is totally hilarious. This guy is not on our team. Still have to talk about him and devote a Jameis Watch to him? Ok so accept this. They threw him a bone. A cheap bone. Not a Milk Bone an off brand like WalMart store brand.

  29. Waterboy Says:

    But if the Bucs put a strong backup behind him wouldn’t he have been looking over his shoulder for that guy to take his job after one of those 4 turnover performances?

  30. donuts Says:

    Winston is a JAG. I dont get all these articles about NON-Buc players and non-Buc coaches or podcasters. My last name is Belicheat…please feel free to call me for a quote on your next article.

  31. ©MadMax Says:

    Dats right Jameis….Who dat? Keep that bench warm….eat that clipboard….crotch grab dem cheerleaders, and remind them when dey say “Who Dat”? “Fk her right in the kitty cat”…..Mr. 1.1

  32. Cainishere Says:

    Heheh . . You guys are funny. Didn’t any of you notice that the Buccaneers had to run a watered down vanilla offensive scheme so that Winsnone could mentally handle the game? If the playbook became more complex the guy would panic. Here let me remind you of some undeniable things.
    Think back . . How many times do you recall Jameis passing to a RB in the flats only to see the RB have to stop his stride and watch it hit the ground? How many QB’s have that problem? A RB IN THE FLATS PEOPLE. the easiest pass in the game. okay How many times did we see Mike Evans with a huge lead on a DB have to slow down or not be fast enough to catch a Winsnone pass only to see him shrug the, “WTF you throwing to man” look? How many times did we witness Jameis in the heat of the 4th begin to yell at anything that moves only to watch his silly ass go out onto the field and throw a STUPID pick or drop the stupid ball for a fumble? OMG I feel for the Saints. They have tons of new issues to deal with that their awesome organization didn’t need.

  33. Bucsfanman Says:

    Maybe Jameis can resurrect his career. Maybe not. More and more though, it’s obvious to me that he wasn’t taking coaching. In other words, “uncoachable”.
    Truthfully, I could care less about him. He’s on a division rival’s roster. What he’s making, what string he is, who is his mentor…it’s all irrelevant.
    This is not the same football team from two years ago and not from last year. There are higher expectations because there are better players in key positions, ie. QB!
    In fact, I don’t even know why I’m posting on this story!
    Bye Felicia!

  34. Bucs Fan Since ‘76 Says:

    Hey JimmyJack, in Teddy Ballgame’s case, it might’ve been true. Just sayin’.

  35. Pewter Power Says:

    Just another dumb comment in a long line of stupid decisions by Winston. He looks like a moron for taking shots at former coaches especially if he’s throwing picks at his normal rate after sitting behind Brees.

  36. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Well….at least being the 3rd QB means he doesn’t have anyone pushing him from behind……like Fitz…….so, I’m sure he’s quite comfortable.

  37. Sorryjackchuckiesback Says:

    Everyone else is starting to see what people didn’t like about Winston!! His fake attitude!!! … People could sense it and a lot of people didn’t know why….. Then you throw the accusations on top of that and the fact he lost games.. people had very good reasons for not liking him!!

  38. ItzOK Says:

    The saints are going to look like geniusus next year when they have Jamies as their starter. No down time finding a franchise QB they all ready have him under contract for the league minimum while brees gives it one more shot.

  39. TheBradyBunch Says:

    Ironic that many of the guys that hate JW for his antics support the orange one who has had over dozen women accuse him of harassment and brags about how he can grab women’s &$%%ies whenever he feels like it.

  40. Aceofaerospace Says:

    ALL 32 NFL teams believe they have a better quarterback and in most cases, 2 better quarterbacks than Mr Pick-6 on their team already. I’m sorry we wasted five years on this meat head.

  41. Buc50 Says:

    Jameis is better than many starters. He is better than Mariota for sure. It makes no sense that Mariota is being paid more than Winston for a backup role. He has a ton of talent but must get rid of the turnovers. His Google comments and shots at Arians were stupid and make it even harder for him to get signed.

  42. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    Go away BradyBunch. This is a football website.

  43. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    Joe needs to make a rule about no politics in these comment sections. too many old boomers projecting.

  44. Mike Johnson Says:

    Jameis will learn a hellava lot more from Payton and Brees than Arians and..whats his name…Jameis has made bank. Never feel sorry for a man making 75 grand a game to kick back and learn. Its gonna do him mega good and leaps. When Brady goes down you guys are gonna more quiet than the eye of a hurricane. In steps superman..Gabbert. LOL

  45. Buc50 Says:

    @Tampabuscsbro I agree…it’s ridiculous

  46. Doc Says:

    When, Winston, and the Saints are holding up the Super Bowl trophy, Buc’s fan will be left wondering what happen, when senior citizen quarterback Brady go down in the first game.

  47. Aceofaerospace Says:

    Ironic that the guys that hate JW hate TheBradyBunch also. Go away loser.

  48. Bird Says:


    I have a feeling you are not really a dr by your comment
    Please go root for another team

  49. Morgus the Magnificent Says:

    NOW even JOE calls him ‘CROTCH GRABBER” !!!!! I almost got RUN for that in the past!!!! ?? NFL-convicted-crotch-groper is the wording. –Joe

  50. Swampbuc Says:

    I’ve been a defender of Winston. But, where is his own personal accountability for leading the league and setting NFL records — for turnovers?

  51. BucEmUp Says:

    Just wait we will regret this

  52. Craig Says:

    If Brees goes down, JW’s replacement games are not going to look anything like Bridgewater’s did last year.

    I will admit that I did not think that pairing JW with an OC who had a long wind-up to throw the ball and has the same play calling style did JW any good.

    I don’t think Brees and Paton are a great pairing either. Their game is not one Jameis can do. Maybe this will work for him, but I doubt it. Jameis hasn’t realized that he has a problem yet. If he goes 1-4 with a hurt Brees, his career is probably over.

  53. DoooshLaRue Says:


    I’ve been saying JayMiss is uncoachable for a while and get called a racist by the resident racists.

    Go figure

  54. JimmyJack Says:

    BucEmUp…..I will wait…..A full year as a matter of fact while Winston is holding a clipboard for the entire time.

    And remember Winston signed a one year pact. Where he will even be in 2021 is a complete unknown. Lot of y’all acting like he will be Saints starter in 2021. Drew Bress still has to retire and Sean Payton has to stay for that to work well. And even then if does fall like that it will be Brady vs Jameis. I know who I like in that matchup.

  55. AlabamaBucsFan Says:

    What changed @ Joe, “…. Jameis Winston, the former Pro Bowler and NFL-convicted-crotch-groper who led the Bucs for the past five seasons?

  56. ATrain Says:



  57. Pelsbuc61 Says:

    Still immature after all these years. Can we put JW where he belongs, in yesterday’s news. Good riddance!!!!!!!!! So glad he’s gone. No need to resurrect that loser.

  58. Oneilbucs Says:

    You guys are saying he’s being negative but Bruce Airans threw him under the bus as soon as the season was over. Jamies has shown nothing but class while our loser fan base and our fraud of a coach who set Jamies up to fail mocked him and every way . Jamies has nothing to be ashamed of because he came to a team and a fan base that don’t have a clue on how to develop a quarterback . The organization has never developed a quarterback . And the fan base for the most part has a loser mentality and depends on the scraps off other teams table .

  59. Clw JB Says:

    NFLFAN is spot on – we can all poke the bear, but at the end of the day, dude is making $1.1 mil as the 3rd string QB

    $61 mil in 6 years – he isnt Brady but he’s a heckuva lot richer than any of us

    So the bust label sticks, bit so does the $35 mil or so left after taxes, commissions, and fees….

  60. Jmarkbuc Says:


    It’s not the fan base’s responsibility to develop a QB. JW had good offensive coaches here. He’s just not, and never was an NFL caliber QB.

  61. Smashsquatch Says:

    The NFL is dominating the sports world during the shut down and the Bucs have become the main topic worldwide. This alone has outweighed all the exposure gained during their playoff run to a SB title. Remember, they only had one week in between the NFC Championship and the SB that year. One week in the national spotlight versus two months (and counting) on the global stage. Five PT games and many others in the national spotlight, like week #1 vs Saints. Jameis who? Pinch me.

  62. D1 Says:


    Winston’s comments about Arian’s if this is viewed as an isolated incident would have no bearing on any team considering to sign him.

    But the reality is that this not an isolated incident. If it was, it’s a throw away comment soon forgotten.

    . In Winston’s case, many teams will be looking at it as further evidence that Winston is the same guy they believed he was coming into the league. Coaches I guarantee you will find his comment offensive but forgivable. The issue will be about the inability of now several coaches to improve him. Comments like the latest are building a compelling case that its winston and winston alone who is responsible for his progress.

    I’m surprised that no one is discussing this comment in context of leadership.
    Considering that one of the most important factors in drafting winston was his extraordinary leadership abilities. I’m suggesting that the scouting process never considered character and personality in any situation other than ideal.
    Or something more broad in scope.

    Winston continues to exhibit a part of his character that is not favorable for leadership. In fact, it’s something that will lose him any respect from vets or anyone who has, manly virtues. This isn’t something that just happened. It’s not difficult to predict and the team took the risk anyway.

    Claiming the fans and team will rue the day ……is flawed reasoning from the start. It’s not possible to extend the benefit of doubt in order to make an argument against it.

    But there’s some reasonable fans who believe this and that makes it valid to a point. However, I believe that point is determined by the amount of humility each individual making this claim has or doesnt.

    Let’s accept the fact that this “just wait “..mentality is immature, evidence of lack of humility and self esteem or something else along those lines. I’m not at all surprised that the die hard winston lovers share this same behavior.

  63. Oneilbucs Says:

    Jmarkbuc I know it’s not the fan base job . But we can still hold the organization accountable for not being able to develop a quarterback . So every quarterback that comes to Tampa for get how to play ?? No I can’t believe it’s every quarterback . And as for Jamies no one knows how his career is going to turn out . You can say he’s not going to be good and I can say he will but you don’t know just li

  64. unbelievable Says:

    I see Joe finally changed up his moniker for Jameis. Sensing a bit of scorn in there as well?


  65. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Jameis is in for a shock to his ego in the Saints locker room and practice field….NO will want to hear from him….shut the F up and run the opponents plays against the Saints defense Tuesday-Friday

  66. Oneilbucs Says:

    just like I don’t know it’s about opertunnety . Remember Payton had a 100 interceptions in 5 years with theses same couches . Me I’m about building a team for the future not this short term thing that we don’t know what Brady is going to do with us . No one can guarantee that this is going to work out for us . So me I rather draft a quarterback and get rid of Bruce Airans and his out dated play book . We all know that this offense will be dink and dunk for the most part and they are going to force feed Rojo to have a running game but they didn’t do the same for Jamies . Facts…

  67. K2 Says:

    I think the most valuable lesson for Jameis… is that he knows that no one wants a QB that throws 30 picks. For years, he has talked about getting better and taking care of the football. However, now he understands if he continues to do the sometime he will not be in the NFL. So, my guess is that he will learn and become a better QB. If you throw 10 picks every practice…you are teaching yourself how to accomplish that objective. Jameis was very good a pretending the practice didn’t matter.

  68. ©MadMax Says:

    Heard it here first!!!!!….Saints will probably cut Jay-miss by mid season once they realize it was stupid. They just want as much of the Arians/LW playbook as possible….thats all this is about.

    Thats why Vegas is giving us 4.5 points for that first game…..easy Benjamin for me….Im all over that 10 point win for us.

  69. Tye Says:

    He is and will always be in the category of a lesser Ryan Fitzpatrick…
    The whole ‘Fitz-magic vs Fitz-tragic’..

    IF (a great big ‘IF’), he gets promoted from 3rd string to 2nd, he may get to play enough games to con some team into starting him until his turnovers start building and he loses the starting role much like Fitzpatrick has a history of..

    Jettisoning him from the Bucs in one of the best decisions this team has made recently… No other team would touch him and now the Saints got him for a 1.1 Mill so they can keep him for as long as they can tolerate him…
    So to his departure: GOOD RIDDANCE!

  70. ©MadMax Says:

    My God, Oneil, you make my head hurt trying to read your posts!!!!!!!!! Its always the low IQ who stick up for Jay-miss. Oh well, cant fix stupid 🙁

  71. Who dat? Says:

    Who dat give a crap about the million dollar co back up qb? Who dat? Bwahahaha! Go Bucs!

  72. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    And Oniel tpyounwant to build for the future with a crotch grabbing google user? I get Brady is short term but JW was not the answer. Soon as you see that you will rest easier.

  73. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    One thing I keep hearing a lot is all of these dudes saying things like.

    X QB had just as many interceptions as Jameis did 2-5 decacdes ago. They don’t seem to understand how much the game has changed in this time. back then you were allowed to absolutely wallop recievers as a DB. Now you are barely allowed to breathe on them the wrong way. It has never been easier to pass in the NFL. and these guys keep missing the point.

  74. Joseph Mamma Says:

    Buc50 Says:
    May 12th, 2020 at 5:07 pm
    Jameis is better than many starters. He is better than Mariota for sure. It makes no sense that Mariota is being paid more than Winston for a backup role. He has a ton of talent but must get rid of the turnovers. His Google comments and shots at Arians were stupid and make it even harder for him to get signed.

    The market suggests that Winston has minimum veteran salary kind of talent.

    And with Mariota, a coach can design a set of plays that utilize his speed. So he is a backup that might play a handful of plays every game.

    With Winston, it is difficult to design plays where your QB throws it to the other team. I guess if he had a stronger arm, they could use him as a spare punter on 4th down.

  75. Tye Says:

    ‘use him as a spare punter on 4th down.’
    much of his passing is Hail Marys anyway… LoL

  76. Geno711 Says:

    @Oneilbucs makes me laugh. Says “facts” at the end of his comment. Hilarious!

  77. Dom>Licht Says:

    first post deleted I guess… Joe your Jaymiss obsession is getting old.. let’s talk about guys that are actually on this team or rename the site joesaintsfan!

  78. Ndog Says:

    Again very typical of the way Jameis is treated. How many interviews has he done, how many things has he said (and done for other people since the season ended) and yet one comment, which could be taken many ways, is being used against him. But I guess Jake is just going to gloss over all the sh!t his dad talked about Jameis, including calling him “terrible” as he was hitting free agency. Yet the brilliant Jake wonders why he didn’t get any starting offers. Real genius there! But again all this is simply a snapshot in time so enjoy it all now cause Jameis Winston has a long career ahead of him.

    And yes @Madmax your prediction will be remembered trust me on that.

  79. SteveK Says:

    Just got done mowing the lawn in my red alarm clock Jameis Jersey. Pumped to order a New Jersey. Thinking the gray Gronk? Any suggestions?

    Good luck to Jameis! No hard feelings and hope he does well except against the Bucs. Happy for our future and wish Jameis the best. Simple as that.

  80. JimmyJack Says:

    Oniel you wanna fire and rehire a entire coaching staff because that’s the best long-term plan?

    Well apparently your memory isn’t working right because that exactually what this team has been doing every other year for over a decade now. And it’s been nothing but a failing formula. It’s actually a horrible long-term plan because you bring in all these new systems and many of the players we planned on building around get pushed off the team to make room for new players that fit the new schemes.

    You’re plan is an abomination to be honest. And is proven so just by looking at any consistent winning team. Every one of em has the same thing in their front office. Consistency.

    The Bucs now actually got a real chance at consistency with keeping this coaching staff together for a long haul and promoting from within when need be. Everything will stay the same. Same schemes, same style players, same coaching techniques, same practice habits/schedule, same direction and messaging……… That’s a true long term plan. And a good one.

    And aside from all of that this team is actually set up to become a true contender. It goes against the logic and purpose of sports to be against that..

  81. JimmyJack Says:

    NDog with all due respect any popular person who is on a camera saying stuff is always gonna get treated the same…….Meaning nobody is going to remember 99% of the boring context. The one thing they said that outlandish or crazy or just plain dumb is gonna be the only thing anybody talks about. This literally happens to every celebrity or famous person that’s said something ridiculous to a camera. Don’t pretend this is something unique being done here. Quit the martyr act.

    It’s freaking hilarious. Have fun with it like everybody else. The dude said he googled how to be a QB hahahaha. It’s funny as hell bro.

  82. JimmyJack Says:

    In other words…..lighten up buttercup.

    GO BUCS!!!!

  83. BigMacAttack Says:

    It’s going to be great when we don’t have to hear about the big sleazy backup anymore. High probability that Sean Cheater gets BA’s playbook from America’s Clown, mills him for any Buc knowledge he can get and then cuts him on the final preseason day. Don’t be surprised because the Saints don’t need him and fools are easily played

  84. Ndog Says:

    Yet Tom Brady can literally break the law and walk into a stranger’s house and it becomes a joke. So what were you saying about all “popular people” being treated the same again?

    And I don’t think you would find it funny if it was you getting screwed over constantly.

  85. FloridaGirl Says:

    Football fans can stand a lot, but when You draft an alleged rapist with the #1 pick, who then graduates to crotch grabbing an Uber driver AND then continues to have a losing record……..that’s just untenable….Not a sustainable business model when you can buy a clean QB who can go 8-8..

  86. Bird Says:

    And I heard brady farted in the guys house too

    He is a criminal and should go to jail
    Great point Ndog

    Man – you are a great American . And super smart !

  87. buccanstopit Says:

    I can’t read all of this, but Lasik will fix all that is wrong with Jameis and he will win a Super Bowl somewhere else LOL

  88. Youngbucs Says:

    Oneil we don’t wanna hear that 1of1 Bruce Arians crap lol. You still pushing that dude get some new material seriously.

  89. T REX Says:

    ndog: still losing at life…I swear he is one of the joe’s or works for this site for clickbait


  90. ©MadMax Says:

    Bet? NDOG?

  91. JimmyJack Says:

    Dang bro it was funny. It’s a freaking offseason comment and it’s entertainment. Enjoy it bro.

    The freaking guy is a NFL QB saying he’s googling what to do at his job ahahahaha. It’s freaking hilarious. It never stops being funny. They should be bringing it up everyday so more people can hear it and enjoy it. That’s how entertainment works. Duh

    And I aren’t know why you comparing Bradys situation to this. As I recall he was accused of cheating by many including you………That’s story’s rann its course. That gets old quick……..But a QB saying he had to Google how to do his job? That’s timeless

    Quit trying to find a fight is every little thing. It’s called a sound byte(and a dam good one). Enjoy it.

  92. JimmyJack Says:

    In other words. Lighten up buttercup.

  93. ©MadMax Says:

    Ntard fantasizes googling JW’s yahoo and youtubing his face….book

  94. Ndog Says:

    Yeah @Madmax you can bet I’m going to call your a$$ out when you are proven dead wrong.

  95. Buczilla Says:

    Jameis is sore because he wasn’t resigned and he can say whatever he wants to make himself feel better. I’m sore because we wasted 5 years on this dude and his words are meaningless to me. Long relationships that go sour rarely end well, but life goes on.

    Other than Doug Williams, who our former idiot owner let get away, every QB that we have drafted has been a failure here. Lol, that is pathetic and sad, but can you imagine how Bears fans must feel after skipping on Mahomes and Watson?

  96. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    NDog who is constantly being screwed over? The guy who stole crab legs and didn’t go to jail? The guy who grab the girls crotch and didn’t go to jail? The guy who jumped on the table and said grab women by either, well you know?Do you think Brady should go to jail for an honest mistake of walking with someone else’s house?

    Your not a Buc fan you are a Winston fan. As he’s now 3rd string so I’d be depressed if I was you too.

  97. ©MadMax Says:

    13 year old mouth full of braces girl is going to prove me wrong lol….Im rarely wrong….3 or 4 misses here and there over the last 10 years.

  98. ©MadMax Says:

    and your boyfriend was one of them…..

  99. Ndog Says:

    No SC I believe in people being treated correctly so I am not sure what that has to do with my fandom?

    More proof how Jameis is treated differently. There is an article posted today about athletes and their donations in 2020 and it has multiple athletes from many sports yet guess who was not mentioned despite donating more than 4 of the top 10 they listed including our own Mike Evans. So why do you think they have soccer players, golfers, basketball players, football players, Nascar drivers but for some reason left a QB from the most popular sport in America who donated more than many listed?

  100. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    JW asked for 30 M and got 1. If anyone screwed him, besides himself, it was his agent.

  101. Ndog Says:

    Show me where HE asked for $30 million?

  102. Drunkinybor Says:

    Pick 6 Bucs lose in ot against the falcons Jamies (google it) Winston and I quote “ I’m Ballin” end quote. Losers mentality me me me…deuces Dont let the door knob hit ya where the good lord split ya!!

  103. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    In late December and early January multiple media outlets including Pat McAfee said he asked for 30 million. I can’t show you specifically because I wasn’t at any of the meetings and he didn’t tell it to me. Simple Google search will show multiple references though.

  104. Ndog Says:

    SC you’re right he didn’t go to jail or get charged so maybe that should tell you something. Maybe just maybe, despite what you have been brainwashed to believe, he actually didn’t do what he was accused of. Have you ever even fathomed that?

  105. Ndog Says:

    You can’t find it SC cause it didn’t happen. Just like all the crap he was accused of didn’t happen but it’s ok for people to just say it over and over again cause they want it to be true.

  106. Bradybru Says:

    So we have to give Ndog and his cronies their say so and read articles related to Jaymiss on here. I’m sure when the readership decreases You’ll start talking about the current QB who commands much more attention and respect at this time and previously and forever and ever AMEN

  107. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    You are right Ndog everyone in the world is making up stuff against JW because the world hates him. Maybe if he doesn’t get to play for the saints in your opinion he could be named the new Pope since, in your opinion, he’s never done anything wrong. I feel sorry for you, I really do.

  108. Bucsgotachance..todonothing Says:

    Who cares he’s a n.o body

  109. JimmyJack Says:

    Man you getting this worked up over a sound byte? You’re making way bigger deal out of this then it is. Again this happens all the time where some celebrity says something dumb or ridilicous or shocking or whatever and it get talked about and replayed over and over. Some sound bytes live in infamy and get replayed for decades.

    So you’re wrong its no different treatment. It’s an entertaining clip that’s all. You’re making it bigger then it really is. You picked a bad fight with this one……..Oh well in a week or so well never hear about it again prooving how small a deal it really is.

    Oh and BTW Winston did ask for 30M. It was a major headline that almost every Buc fan heard about. Not sure how you don’t remember it

  110. Ndog Says:

    See I post FACTS you respond with conjecture or sarcasm. Never been charged, yet that all anyone talks about. Donates time and money it’s ignored. Throws for 5,000 plus yards, 33 TDs and led the #4 scoring offense in the league with basically no running game yet all anyone talks about are the TOs.

    In all seriousness do you honestly believe he is not being treated differently than most athletes?

  111. Bradybru Says:

    Why are we revisiting Jaymissy, it’s old really.

  112. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    How is he being treated different? Brady got suspended and they had no direct evidence against him. Everything is about perspective and the only perspective you want is that he’s a good guy and he’s done nothing wrong. He led a potent the very flawed offense on a team that couldn’t make it to the playoffs and the Bucs chose to go in another direction to try and get the team better. I don’t understand how you can’t understand that. You want a fact? Windton never left this team to the playoffs. Never. Sure there were other things wrong with the team but he and his turnovers were a major problem and it wasn’t getting any better. Insanity is doing the same wrong thing over and over and expecting a different result.

  113. ParrishBucsfan Says:

    Omg joe!!! Finally applying the right acronym for Jameis Winston!!!

  114. ParrishBucsfan Says:

    Omg joe. God bless you after finally applying the right acronym to Jameis name!!!

  115. JimmyJack Says:

    NDog…..You’re argument falls entirley flat within our fanbase because we are Tampa Bay fans. We care about one thing and it’s winning…….If you wanna debate some national bias against Winston you might got some points……..But when you start complaining about people talking turnovers it’s invalid………Because that’s been a big issue with Tampa Bay fans. The fans that care about this team and winning.

    We don’t care about national perceptinons and biases. We care about winning. So if we got a problem with the turnovers it’s because it’s a real legitimate problem on our team. No bias just winning. Don’t pretend like there is a bias in the fanbase(which I agree there is a small group) when all’s we care about is winning……….And don’t you dare think for a second that the majority of this fanbase would not have rallied behind Winston and supported him through national bias like many other sports towns have for their stars……Big Ben in Pittsburg for example.

    Totally niave to think otherwise.

  116. SteveK Says:


    I googled this report from the TB media.

  117. Defense Rules Says:

    D1 … Appreciated 3 lines in particular that you wrote:

    1 – “In Winston’s case, many teams will be looking at it as further evidence that Winston is the same guy they believed he was coming into the league.”
    2 – “I’m surprised that no one is discussing this comment in context of leadership.”
    3 – “Winston continues to exhibit a part of his character that is not favorable for leadership.”

    Jameis LEADERSHIP was THE ISSUE in his time here IMO. Giving a 20-year-old, 2-year college starter the keys to the kingdom & labeling him as ‘The Savior’ of the franchise started the ball rolling downhill. Whatever folks may think of his physical skills, he was never prepared to live up to the more demanding mental & emotional side of leadership. It cascaded under BA & Jameis was never gonna recover here. Too much water under the bridge.

  118. JimmyJack Says:

    The fact you are using this story as a example of Winston being treated differently hurts your point more then it helps.

    The guy said he googled how to be a better QB!!! Of course people are gonna talk about that in May. It’s the funniest most ridicilous thing I heard all year……your brain just don’t function right if you don’t see how that is a great talking point in May.

  119. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    100% JJ. If JW was here I’d be rooting he would have a MVP year. He isn’t so I root for the man currently behind Jensen. And when Brady leaves I’ll be rooting for the next guy and Brady will be in my rear view mirror. Root for the name on the front not the name on the back.

  120. Don spohr Says:

    Still think he can be a very good QB in the right spot. If he doesn’t try to be the savior on every play. He said some stupid things when he left here, but didn’t the real backing he should have. He was slow to mature. Some people take longer then others.

  121. Ndog Says:

    Yes it’s the QBs fault we have had a bottom 5 defense, bottom 5 running game, and a bottom 5 kicker on average during his time here. Yep those are winning circumstances for any QB and had zero impact on TOs at all. Also let’s keep in mind he was so stupid for not being able to single handly carry those great aspects of the team he had to support him at the ripe old age of 21.

    So the question is what don’t you understand about football being a team game?

    You know what’s funny? Last night I watched am entire game where it was Brady’s first game back after tearing up his knee and they were losing the entire game mainly due to a pick 6 he threw. They scored late and all the Bills had to do was catch the KO and run out about 2 minutes. However on the kickoff the Bills fumbled and the Patriots win three plays later. When is the last time you saw the Bucs special teams bail out Jameis? Heck most of the time they couldn’t even make an easy kick to win/seal a game (see Giants or ATL last year).

    Teams win/lose games not individual players.

  122. JimmyJack Says:

    DR that is a excellent point about leadership. Completely agree that leadership was the Crux of the problem here.

    Do you listen to Joe’s podcast? He has speculated a couple times now that major players on defense might not have resigned if Winston was still our guy. That’s a scarry thought that we would have to rebuild this defense all over again,……..Of course it’s only speculation but for those still upset with letting Winston walk it’s a real thought they have to give credit to if they wanna be genuine.

  123. Ndog Says:

    JimmyJack that’s funny brother Jameis was getting ripped on this site BEFORE HE WAS DRAFTED. So again lie to yourself if you want to but you know good and damn well saying people would rally around him is bullsh!t.

  124. Ndog Says:

    To address the leadership comments. If anyone on this pathetic defense has the balls to blame anyone else then no one should want anything to do with them cause they are a loser plain and simple after what they have put on the field the past 5 seasons.

  125. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    NDog he wouldn’t have been ripped before the draft if his character was clean. And whose fault it wasnt?

  126. JimmyJack Says:

    Unfortunately NDog……Your little defense/running game argument has nothing but a big fat hole it it. Because even when we have gotten good performances around Winston he still had problems with his turnovers.

    You have to judge his play independent. And on a game to game basis it was not never good enough. That’s a old excuse that didn’t hold up.

    And your narritive is set now. I get it. Our defense will play well we will win this year and you say they never gave Winston a defense and it’s unfair…………mute point…….see my post above. Winston stay our defensive leaders are probably walking out the door. Winston was a poor leader and that’s my opinion.

  127. JimmyJack Says:

    NDog….he was getting ripped on this site? And there are what? 10-20 daily posters with a bunch of random people putting in their 2 cents?

    So a few internet posters is now our fanbase? What a stupid statement. Do you even go to the games? Maybe try it and get a feel for the real fanbase.

  128. Ndog Says:

    What hole the only times he had a decent defense we went 9-7 and last year when they played better near the end we went 5-2, so that’s not good?

    And try again tough guy, I’ve missed one home game, including preseason, since 1996, and went to most between 1991-1996. Lastly what fan base I’ve been sitting alone for the last 3 years?

  129. Robert James Says:

    man, ndog isanidiot.

  130. JimmyJack Says:

    And how is it BS that the fans would rally behind Winston? You are so freaking wrong dude because that exactually what the fanbase was doing when we started to go on a run toward the end of last year. And not just the fans but media too……The medias that were never big Winston supporters were starting to change their tune. And it is absolute undenyable fact……It actually did happen NDog. You can go relisten for yourself.,………..And then Winston completely soiled himself in those last two games. That was big proove it moments. And all’s we could do was throw out hand up in the air.

    He was getting his support and he blew it. Fact.

  131. Ndog Says:

    Ok Robert the guy that got academicly accepted to Stanford, that has made $30 plus million before the age of 26, that just understood how he is getting a screwed so is now deciding to play the game by going to a QB friendly team to rebuild his name is an idiot.

    Yep that makes perfect sense.

  132. JimmyJack Says:

    No 5-2 wasn’t good. And you know it. We had more to proove in the last few games. That basically goes without saying for those who followed the season closely.

    All we prooved is we can beat a bunch of bad teams with backups and we played much better then that. Winston did not.

  133. Ndog Says:

    Man JimmyJack you got the brainwashing bad brother. I honestly feel bad for you bro cause I think you actually the believe the crap your typing. So your telling me Jameis was not brought back cause of games we lost when he had no Evans, no Godwin, no Miller, a broken thumb on his throwing hand, a torn meniscus and one of those games we should have won going away but our kicker missed not one, not two, but three FGs? You truly believe that?

  134. JimmyJack Says:

    You can say we finished 5-2 or I can say 5-3……..or I can be a jerk and say we finished 2-2 in the last quarter.

    But when the chips we’re down and we got flexed to a national game vs the Texans this team had something to proove. That was our chance to really show ourselfs against a legitimate contender.

    And almost every man on that team came out and kislcked ass. Pound for pound we beat that team. Soundly……..And our freaking leader played one of his worst games as a pro.

    You can act like one game is trivial all you want. But that’s all you get in the NFL. Bottom Line. You can’t trust Winston. That’s poor leadership.

  135. Ndog Says:

    So throwing for 450 yards and 4 TDs in back 2 back games is not playing well now? Dude I’m done with you man your just saying stupid stuff now. Peace out brother.

  136. JimmyJack Says:

    NDog roll out the excuses…….And keep rolling them right out the backdoor bro. Winston cannot finish.

    You are pretending. Winston melted down buddy. He melted down when his receivers weren’t there too. He has melted down his whole career…….It has nothing to do with your reasoning. That’s what Winston does. It has absolutely nothing to do with Scotty Miller’s…….your a ass to suggest that. If that was the case his career wouldn’t be littered with meltdown games? Or is there just a special specific reason for each and every one? What a joke.

  137. JimmyJack Says:

    Take your stats and take em to the nerds baby. I don’t play stats. Stats don’t win games stats don’t win championships……..If they did Nelson Cruz would have a ring but the right field wall scared him.

    Cream rises to the top baby. Winston couldn’t lock in when it mattered. It aren’t in him. And he let us down. Your little stats don’t mask that.

  138. JimmyJack Says:

    And just like I say about stats I stay true to that with INTs. You never hear me crying about 30 picks. I don’t care about that stat.

    I didn’t care when he threw 4 vs New Orleans. None of them were in big situations. I care about situations not stats. Which is why we still argue about his game ending Pick6 Week One. Elite QBs lock it in on those moments. Winston is not capable of locking it in like that. Never has been.

  139. Saintsfan Says:

    The Bucs will lose with Brady and they will NOT beat the Saints.

  140. Oneilbucs Says:

    madmax I just bring facts yall bring emotions Bruce Airans is out of here this year or next year . You guys are a bunch of losers !!

  141. The Saint Says:

    How much impact Can it have on Winston sitting behind Drew for maybe one year. Not like 3 to 5 to really help him

    And as far as Tom cryBrady, glad the Saints get to spank him twice a year. Welcome to the NFC South. It Is by no means the cream puff AFC East… what a joke


  142. Alaska Abdominal Snowman Says:

    Remember when Jameis Winston showed up at halftime and the Mud Dogs won the Bourbon Bowl.

  143. WestChap Says:

    Props to Joe for balancing the nickname game between Blameless and the GOAT… I was hoping for balance by being a bit less deflating on Brady but bringing a little groping into JW’s title works too. Happy to have the home invader now leading the charge! Lol

  144. WestChap Says:

    Best to ignore the Precious Puppy… appears to have misplaced his Blameless doll.

  145. Pete I Says:

    Screw Jameis, hope the door hit him on the way out. Wasted 5 years. If he has success anywhere in the NFL then bully for him. It won’t affect me because I’m a Buc’s fan and he is no longer a Buc! Thank God! If he’s ever a starter again that fan base can ride that roller coaster.

  146. D1 Says:

    “To address the leadership comments.”
    ” If anyone on this pathetic defense has the balls to blame anyone else then no one should want anything to do with them cause they are a loser plain and simple after what they have put on the field the past 5 seasons.”

    * You start with stating that you’re going to address leadership..and proceed not to address it.

    * If anyone on the defense blamed anyone else….name that person or persons and what they said. Direct quote is the best option for this type of situation. You provided zero. This is a complete surprise as you’ve claimed to be 100% facts and zero speculation. I’m shocked.

    * 5 years of the worst defense in human history or something like that is not a magical incantation . It has failed to protect winston from unbiased evaluation and the actions of 31 other NFL teams. It’s continued use is no longer credible among anyone other than the uber faithful and the intellectually challenged.

    Intellectually challenged and defeated by repeated interceptions of facts that would have changed the game. If you want to blame the 5 years of defensive ineptitude on the ultimate outcome of Winston’s tenure in ta,mpa. .ok.

    Now look at the defense and name all the current starters who have been here 5yrs.

  147. D1 Says:

    Every one is bottom 5. Fire everyone, spare no one.

  148. Bruce Blahak Says:

    This is getting beyond ridiculous, Joe Jameis Lover. He’s a Saint and …..he SUCKS! Who cares!!!

  149. Bruce Blahak Says:

    The bum has had an excuse for every failure during his short crappy career and now it’s come to be the coaches fault. He’s GARBAGE. That final game against Oregon should have prevented any GM from going all in on this trash. Proved his personality that day.

  150. Bigpaa43 Says:

    What a bunch of losers. Buc fans are idiots. I can’t wait for the season
    to start. All y’all think you are going to the Super Bowl. Please.
    Frickin fools.

  151. BigHog Says:

    Cainishere/…then how did he pass for over 5,000 yards . Just asking?

  152. Morgus the Magnificent Says:

    NDOG…..have you ordered your Black and Gold, Fleur De Lis number 5 jersey yet?

  153. Tye Says:

    Morgue – canine’s idol will wear No. 2 with the Saints.

  154. Bradybru Says:

    Exactly who cares old news move on please, let’s live in the present, again it’s unhealthy to keep talking about jaymissy. Can we please start talking about the
    Bucs team, and how so many fans are returning these days. Go Bucs!

  155. Morgus the Magnificent Says:

    Thanks Tye…..guess I’m not following Winston closely. But the Bucs’ “fans” on here that put Crotch Grabber on a pedestal obviously do.

  156. Bradybru Says:

    They act like jay missy came to their house and gave them food and money. That doesn’t make him a good patron of the community, I don’t remember anything that he did for anyone except for all of you who idolize this schizoid. Again take the cheerleading squad to New Orleans and stop with the ludicrous platforms. Jamison the schizoid is a looser and all of you who keep on with the taunts I bet you would think twice before you say some garbage to anyone’s face. Move on…’s over.

  157. Tye Says:

    Morgue – I only know because I saw it on an NFL site…
    I can’t grasp people’s obsession with a BUST… Its like he is the new Tebow or something..
    Obsession suffocates intelligence I guess!

  158. Bradybru Says:


  159. Dre_Bucz Says:

    I was over Jamies when he got suspended for grabbing the Uber drives crotch. If he even gets to play in NO i’m sure he’ll play really well one game then suck ass the next game. Thats just who he is.

  160. Bradybru Says:

    Oneil and Ndog you keep spewing garbage out to everyone. You can’t hold anyone responsible as jaymissy is not that smart. He just could not do it, he was irrational in his play, no one like watching him. Stop blaming everyone but the one person who could of changed his position. Why did he not get his eyes fixed sooner, and who plays with a bum knee, and alleged had injury. What QB in the NFL does not take care of themselves, he had time off groping and grabbing crotches and googling how to be a QB. 5 years all that money what a waste of everyone’s time and energy for a arrogant schizoid. The brain cannot process the information, why do you keep forcing the garbage.

  161. Bradybru Says:

    Oh by the way ndog jaymissy is infatuated with Brees are you jealous?

  162. BushidoEvans Says:

    Damn these pages are flooded now….lot more Bucs fans now I guess …

  163. CLEAM SALTER Says:

    with the offensive line he had hard to get your eyes fixed when you are running for your life no run game all the coaches in his time here check brady first five against Winston first five I hope they lose every game go brady

  164. Tony1775 Says:

    Yeah. Winston is gone now btw.

  165. Bradybru Says:

    Go Bucs

  166. CrackerBall Says:

    Jameis is the same guy, with the same flaws, he had coming out of college. The main reason is: he doesn’t see anything wrong with playing “Hero Ball” and being reckless outside of his skill set.

    We will have no such problems with Tom Brady. His on-field processing is light year better than Winston’s, and we won’t be digging ourselves out of a hole early in the game anymore.

    Also… we didn’t need Brady to beat the Saints before, so go ahead and keep Jameis. Maybe even play him. You’re playing right into our hands.

  167. Carl M. Says:

    Last words ” See u all at the superbawl” he knows the curse in Tampa’s Buc football history. It’s still here. The bucs organization knows it to. I thing they may have delayed it a bit when they gave JW a one year franchise tag. $49M ain’t bad money,he’s healthy and he (will ) learn more about football in one year than he has his entire (pro.) Football career. “NOX”

  168. Oneilbucs Says:

    Bradybru Why do you keep bringing up grabbing crotches ?? Why do something that happened years ago if it even happened bother you ?? I’m sure you have done the same thing before or less you are gay . What quarterback has this franchise develop and I’ll wait for your answer ??? Another thing Brady haven’t thrown one pass for the bucs and yall act like we already won because of Brady . Remember Brady threw a pick six to lose the game last year for his team .

  169. Bradybru Says:

    Oneill and crony Ndog that was then and this is now. Why do you keep bringing up the past and if I am missing something Jaymissy is no longer a Buc. Unfortunately you need to find another fantasy player to pad your pockets full of $$$$. First time I mentioned the topic piggybacking off others comments. Frankly I hope you don’t have a daughter and if you do maybe you better rethink how you feel about men grabbing women’s crotches. So it was a different team, again this is now and that was then, it so unhealthy to keep living in the past. It’s actually something you should seek help for.

  170. Oneilbucs Says:

    Bradybru You are the one who brings up his pass all the time . And guess what I do what daughters . And guess what my girls know better than to let a guy touch her their and my girls know that they don’t have to scame no body out of their money because they have a daddy who gives them every thing they want . So they’re not money hungry like she was . First she said Jamies touch her for 4 seconds then she said stop . Then she changed her statement to something else .

  171. Bradybru Says:

    O’Neill I only brought it up once and obviously it’s really striking a bad nerve for you. BTW Go Bucs!

  172. TJ Says:

    You heard it here first: TOMpa will win the NFC South by finishing the regular season 13-3 (due to a loss to KC and a sweep by the Brees-led, 12-4 Saints)…Your Gronkaneers will get a bye, while the Brees-led Saint go into the tournament hot as fire @ 12-4, taring through the Wild Card & Divisional rounds…Your Gronkaneers will grind out a Divisional home win and all of you Tiger-King, BBQ-pulled-pork-lovin’ clones of Hickville FL will cry tears of joy into your beers…until you realize that America’s Back-Up QB, Mr. Entertainment, Pro Bowler Jay-Miss Winsnone’s Saint’s will be your NFC Championship opponent…And because payback is a (I don’t cuss, but you know what it is), YOUR TOMpa BRAy Gronkaneers will fold under the national pressure of trying to save face for how you treated Brother Winston and take the whoopin’ you deserve…right there in Raymond James…with Mr. 30-Picks smiling on the opposing sideline, while Coach Payton trolls all of you by letting JaBoo take the final snap in the VICTORY formation…knowing that his Saints will return right back in 2-weeks to send Brother Brees off into the sunset of his retiremtn with 3rd road victory on Raymond James field…I…CAN’T…WAIT!!!

  173. Bradybru Says:

    And then you wake from your delusional dream, Jaymissy is not going to be doing that, he will be touching someone’s helmet, instigating something stupid and basically being the schizoid that he is known to be.