“Opposed To Trying To Learn By Myself Or Use Google”

April 30th, 2020

The Saints’ assistant general manager took a swipe at Bucs coaches past and present this week, and the newest member of the Saints, America’s Backup Quarterback Jameis Winston, seemed to take another yesterday.

Jameis had a video news conference with Saints media that went beyond 20 minutes.

The former Bucs franchise QB was asked about walking into a situation where he’s more student than “the guy.” Jameis’ answer included an odd take that painted himself as a guy forced to learn on his own in the past.

“… When you see what happened last year with the amount of playtime with Taysom (Hill) and Teddy (Bridgewater) got, I’m not saying that I’m going to expect that this year, but those guys were prepared and that’s what I’m going to be,” Jameis said. “I’m going to be prepared for whatever. Being a quarterback, you have to be a student of the game. So now I actually get a chance to dive into that more and I actually have a Hall of Fame quarterback that I’m learning from, opposed to trying to learn by myself or use Google.”

Joe wonders if Jameis ever Googled, “stopping football turnovers.” Regardless, it sure felt like an odd take, and Jameis wasn’t laughing or flashing his trademark smile when he said it.

Earlier in the news conference, Jameis credited a Bucs legend and one of his mentors for guidance that led to his decision to join New Orleans.

“So despite a lot of different things that come with this game, like money and celebrity status, I think one thing that Derrick Brooks taught me through my time with him from Florida State to now is you’ve got to respect the game and the game will always be bigger than you and the game will always win,” Jameis said. “In my experience of being a football player, a professional football player, the game has won.”

Training camps should be kicking off in 91 days.

194 Responses to ““Opposed To Trying To Learn By Myself Or Use Google””

  1. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    So now he learns he has to be a student and not try to get by on raw talent… got it. I guess had he returned here, per his logic, we would have expected the same old JW, slinging for good and bad, because no one is here to show him how to be a standout NFL QB.

  2. Aceofaerospace Says:

    What an ignorant statement Mr Pick-6. I’m truly glad you’re gone and not here learning from the GOAT.

  3. Jason Says:

    Best possible thing for Jameis was to be humbled. That seems to have happened. Good luck.

  4. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    And the hits just keep on comin’……..

  5. DBS Says:

    Move on already. He is gone!

  6. Buc believer Says:

    Joe wonders if Jameis ever Google stopping football turnovers…
    I don’t think so but I’m sure he Googled How to win even though your offensive line allows the other team to pummel you…. and I’m really positive he Googled winning even though you had three head coaches in five years.
    Watch now that he has Breese Peyton teach him he will win multiple Super Bowls.

  7. Pablo Says:

    Lol Pablo think America’s QB is a joke

  8. LVMYBUCS Says:

    Please dude stop make excuses, every time we got a new head coach the media would say “Jamies should excel with this head coach because……..) blah blah blah you have been throwing ints all your football career you just had other players bailing you out. You will be lucky if you see the field in New Orleans. Your nothing but another RG3 you think your a good QB but you really are not, but you are a great bull**** artist.

  9. Formerly Tampa 2 Says:

    Gee Jameis, you should have googled “how to read defenses for a Pro QB”? Can’t believe you even went there.

  10. Asdf Says:

    If people stop commenting on the Jameis articles (driving traffic which the Joe’s monetize) maybe they coverage will be more about the team we have in place!

  11. Etzel Says:

    I mean, when your head coach is hellbent on playing offense like we’re trapped in 2003, Google might be your best option.

  12. Etzel Says:

    Props to Bruce, he found a QB from 2003 to run his 2003 offense.

  13. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    Etzel in 2003 the Pats went 14-2 and won the Super Bowl

  14. jmarkbuc Says:

    “Props to Bruce, he found a QB from 2003 to run his 2003 offense.”

    But..But,,we were the #3 offense…JW threw for 5 million yards and all those TD’s

    Can’t have it both ways Etzel.

  15. gotbbucs Says:

    That dipsh!t doesn’t even know what being humbled means. Everything anyone told him up until this point went in one ear and out the other. Suddenly he hit rock bottom, found Jesus riding shotgun in an Uber ride, and low and behold he’s going to be a better man.

    His management team, or whatever fools he has around him training him and spending his money, really let him down this time. He’s essentially going to be paying to play this year, and in between preparing for games during the week he thinks Brees and Payton are going to teach him how to be a better QB out of the goodness of their hearts.
    They have zero invested in him. He’s either going to learn to fly or they’re going to push him out if the nest and not even feel like they lost anything.

    If this guy truly got accepted into Stanford then they had to have completely ignored the academic requirements. Either that, or this guy is truly as big a sociopath as what he’s been made out to be and there is no common sense or appreciation for consequences behind those dolls eyes.

  16. ClodHopper Says:

    Google? Sounds like that’s his problem. What’s he gonna learn from about NFL quarterbacking from random dudes on YouTube? Ask the actual pros, dummy. He probably has the phone numbers for a handful of HOFers and he uses google.

    He probably learned from a trick shot artist on YouTube that at the face of adversity throw a Hail Mary. Situational awareness be damned!

  17. Bruce Blahak Says:

    America’s QuarterbackUp

  18. Sarasota Garey Says:

    He’s on his 4th head coach in 6 seasons.

  19. jmarkbuc Says:

    One of JW’s biggest problems has always been his mouth..history shows that.

    His second biggest problem is he believes what’s coming out of it.

    Perhaps if he had listened to BA, Tom Moore, Christensen, and Leftfoot ( who JW was so excited to work with) he might have learned something.

  20. DoooshLaRue Says:

    I really hope Genius JayMiss gets a chance to play against us.

  21. 941bucsfan Says:

    Every bucs fan know… when brady is 50 on his couch. Jameis is gonna be torching us 2 times a year.. its inevitable folks… it always happens to the BUCS

  22. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    He needs to google “how to run the scout team”

  23. DBS Says:

    Asdf is right. We know it will always be someone else’s fault. Stop the comments or this will continue. This ihe BUCS . Not Saints.

  24. Drew Says:

    Jaboo has no class. Threw 30+ picks and 50+ if defenders held on. Wish him all the best and happy he’s gone.

  25. YakAttack Says:

    Jameis loves the game of football and he’s talented, but his ego doesn’t allow him to learn. He’s a know it all. He thinks he has it all figured out. That dumbass crab legs picture said it all. He needs to hit rock bottom. This experience should humble him a bit, if he lets it. Judging by his comments I’m not sure.

  26. Anonymous Says:

    Wasn’t the reason Winston was so excited to be working with Byron Leftwich, was because they were great at communicating and dissecting plays together? Because they could relate to each other. What happend to all that? How will Winston be able to handle having to compete for his playing time and game day activation, with a Goat QB and a established knowing the playbook do it all QB. How will Winston handle all that pressure?

  27. Etzel Says:


  28. Jean Lafitte Says:


  29. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    Etzel the button that says “caps lock” can be pressed and you can type like a normal hater.

  30. Jean Lafitte Says:

    more negative^^^

    negativity begat negativity

  31. Anonymous Says:

    Winston missed out going to google to find any help in his game. All he had to do was come here to Joebucsfan and Ndog would have clued him in on his limitations in his NFL QB game. Missed opportunity for you there Winston. Good luck in being the scout team QB with New Orleans.

  32. RustyRhinos Says:

    Winston missed out going to google to find any help in his game. All he had to do was come here to Joebucsfan and Ndog would have clued him in on his limitations in his NFL QB game. Missed opportunity for you there Winston. Good luck in being the scout team QB with New Orleans.

  33. RustyRhinos Says:

    Wasn’t the reason Winston was so excited to be working with Byron Leftwich, was because they were great at communicating and dissecting plays together? Because they could relate to each other. What happend to all that? How will Winston be able to handle having to compete for his playing time and game day activation, with a Goat QB and a established knowing the playbook do it all QB. How will Winston handle all that pressure?

  34. Youngbucs Says:

    This is what Winston and his camp are about it’s laughable.

  35. This Guy Says:

    He is a backup on another team, no need to report on him anymore.
    He is now irrelevant.

  36. Youngbucs Says:

    So as he’s gets on the field and stinks to high heaven. The excuses will still follow he can only fix himself. He holds himself back but when you think and are told you’re the man that’s what happens.

  37. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Goggle….Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa….the guy is dumb as a rock !….

  38. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Wait until Ndog wakes up…I mean rolls out of bed….gonna be a fun thread…

  39. Youngbucs Says:

    This is why he got exactly what he deserved. Know guess what Jameis go work for it because now you’re in a fight for your nfl life . And you should be no doubt about that.

  40. tvan101 Says:

    Enough with the America’s quarterback it is becoming ridiculous, we have Tom Brady the real America’s QB and all you do is post articles about the saints and their 3rd string qb who likes to run his mouth. Keep calling Jameis Americas qb and I might have to frequent other sites which shall not be named.

  41. Bucsfan951 Says:

    If I would’ve known how desperate JW was, I would’ve sent him my “football for dummies” book.

    No need to use google when I had it on audio for the moron.

    What confident nfl qb says that? A backup? I can’t wait to read the excuses from his cheerleaders.

  42. Frankinthe813 Says:

    Only getting $1 mil/ 1 yr..far cry from the $30 mil he wanted

  43. Kgh4life Says:

    I can’t believe what I’m reading. Jameis had to Google how to have better mechanics, better accuracy and how to read defenses? If that’s the case the Glazers should fire Bruce Arians and his entire coaching staff immediately, because it seems they weren’t doing their jobs.

  44. Bucsfan951 Says:

    I seriously can’t stop laughing at the google comment. Maybe he should ask mahomes, Wilson, or Jackson what search engine they’re using so he can perhaps use the same one.

    Again, I can’t wait for the excuses from his cheerleaders on this one. I’ll be checking the comment section of this story like every 5 minutes!

  45. Bejesus-belt Says:

    Fun fact, Winston has already completed more passes to Saints players than Taysom Hill. Winston 10, Hill 7. So he has that going for him.

  46. ATrain Says:

    Why are we talking about a Saints Player????

  47. Elita Vita Says:

    No good professional coaching? ….Lovie, probably; Koetter maybe; but Arians never!

  48. AlteredEgo Say: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Jamyth is now the 52nd highest paid quarterback in the NFL… Patrick Mahomes will be pulling down more every Sunday than Jamyth makes in a whole year… actually Tom Brady will probably make more in local endorsements than Jamyth makes in one year

  49. ATrain Says:

    5year QB uses Google to learn how to get better

    Hey Jameis CALL RYAN LEAF


    What do you get when you Cross Jameis with a Google Site

    Cheap Backup

  50. lambchop Says:

    I think what he meant was he has a HOFer QB in front of him. Learning from a proven QB is different than learning from Leftwich and coaches. He was given the QB job right out of the gate and didn’t have a veteran QB to learn from.

    Anyway, good luck to him. I’m just glad he’s not “learning” on our dime any more. We have too many talented players who need to win now.

  51. The Coroner Says:

    Not sure humbled Jameis would blame others and said he needed to learn by Google.

  52. AlteredEgo Say: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Jameis should try the Goggle calculator

  53. Elita Vita Says:

    Winstons base salary is $952,000. Do you realize he’s only making $457,000 above the league minimum???

  54. Carl Nicks' big toe Says:

    Joe wonders if Jameis ever Googled, “stopping football turnovers.” Regardless, it sure felt like an odd take, and Jameis wasn’t laughing or flashing his trademark smile when he said it.

    Was he flashing his trademark squint?

  55. SufferingSince76 Says:

    Winston previously admitted he didn’t listen to the coaches. I don’t recall the exact words he used, but that tells us all we need to know. We will see if he finally does listen or if he keeps balling his way.

  56. Sammy Lee Says:

    A all y’all haters watching my boy do his thing now

  57. SufferingSince76 Says:

    And to all the nut huggers, Jameis would never throw anyone under the bus. Right?

  58. William Walls Says:

    I can’t believe there are STILL people on this site who don’t get why Winston was called “America’s QB.” I know the Joes are tired of explaining it, so I’ll do it:

    JW is called America’s QB for the same reason that the Dallas Cowboy’s are often referred to as “America’s Team.” It isn’t remotely true that Dallas is the best team in the country, but they still suck up a ton of attention from the media, year in-year out, much more than their record and talent usually warrant.

    So it has been with Jameis.

    From the day he was projected to be in the top-2 in the draft, (maybe even before then, going back to his Heisman and national championship days), for good or ill the media has been all over Jameis Winston. Pumping him up, tearing him down, attacking him, defending him, positive or negative didn’t matter near as much as getting a new story out there about Jameis. So the Joes, who love to tag appellations on all sorts of folks in the NFL world from players to coaches to ownership and even sports journalists (see Peter King) borrowed from how the media treats Dallas to tag Winston with a Winston version of the same moniker.

    Jameis was America’s QB (and now, America’s Backup) because no QB in the league draws unwarranted media attention at the level that Jameis does. Period. It was never anything about talent. It was all about media footprint from Day One and remains so.

    Please, let this be the last time this has to be said.

  59. AlteredEgo Say: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Somewhere in Flowery Branch Dirk Koetter has a humongous sheet eating grin on his face ….

  60. DoooshLaRue Says:

    JayMiss using Google?

    He strikes me as more of an Ask Jeebs type of guy….. ya know the the type….


  61. Afo Says:

    The only Quarterback Payton develop is Romo and they won nothing together, he have Brees for 14 years and have only 1 Superbowl to show that, it’s high time we all agree Payton is overrated all he does is stat pad in regular season and chokes in postseason. BA have developed Ben, Palmer, Luck, Manning and won 2 rings. Payton is the most overrated coach in NFL.

  62. Dapostman Says:

    The only real mentor Winston has had as a Buc was Ryan Fitzpatrick. The Bucs threw Winston into the fire and expected him to save them with a bad roster. Throw in the guys eyesight wasn’t great and well……………….

    My buddy sent me a text from a Rotoworld article that now states that Winston can read license plates. So the Bucs drafted a 21 yr old QB who couldn’t see and expected him to save their you know what.

    This is so Tampa Bay. The only thing that will top this Buc fart is if Winston becomes the player some of us think he can.

    For the Saints and sticks it to the Bucs for the next 10 years.


  63. stpetebucsfan Says:

    “BLAMELESS” strikes again. No coaching? No direction? What a total load of hooey!!!

    Since middle school “Blameless” has been identified as a star athlete with a golden arm for baseball and football. Since middle school “Blameless” has received the best instruction in the land.

    Wasn’t it one of Dilfer’s camps where Trent met JW in high school?

    FSU under Jimbo was like ALL top line college football factories. $$$ were no obstacle and JW got the best instruction from Jimbo and his staff and then worked with his own QB Gurus.

    He had Koetter who has a solid rep as a QB coach..he had a cast of dozens since BA’s arrival including…remember…finally a QB coach “OC” the “same color” as JW so there would be NO “barriers”. JW has delivered some gems over the past five years and that comment about BL certainly is among them.

    If after ALL this instruction…from a dozen or more of the TOP PROFESSIONALS in their field the same problem continues to exist what can we make of it?

    He is either a cement head beyond learning…or he’s a choker who can learn but not execute under pressure. He clearly doesn’t see the field well…I’m not talking about glasses and eye surgery…I’m talking about depth and knowing where LB’s..DB’s tend to hang out in certain situations…after five years JW never developed that either.

    SERIOUSLY!!! Two years at FSU..a top minor league farm team for the NFL…five years and all these many coaches later with the Bucs…and the problem is that poor widdle Jameis was left to fend for himself…to GOOGLE how to play qb in the NFL.

  64. BUC CHEEKS Says:

    Jameis Williams is gone, the GOAT is here! Hopefully we get a chance to play him. He’ll be eating an L for sure! nom nom nom nom

  65. Bye Jameis Says:

    So much for the ‘High Football IQ” all the coaches and scouts raved about ha ha ha ha

    His search history is probably hilarious

    -How to be a QB for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

    -How to get a rideshare if your banned from Uber

    -How to do a cool pre game speech

    -How to see without glasses, contacts or lasik surgery

    -How to do a post game press conference when you thro 4 Interceptions

    -How to cook crablegs you don’t pay for

    -How to win fantasy football but not real games

  66. LaMarcus Says:

    Over/under 205 comments?

  67. Bucsfan951 Says:

    I was able to crack into Winstons computer and found the following searches in his history on google.

    1. How to cook crab legs?

    2. How to see if a linebacker is going to drop back into coverage?

    3. How do i get a restraining order on a person under the name “NDOG”!

    4. If I squint really hard, will I be able to see the cb better?

    5. Proper etiquette during Uber rides?

    6. How to join the 30/30 club?

    7. How to make “W” vegetable soup.

    8. How to piss off an entire fan base?

    9. How do I send flowers and a card to 1of1 for the lies he makes up to support me?

    10. How do I “ball” in the nfl?

  68. Pa Privateer Says:

    I am so over Winston.

  69. AlteredEgo Say: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Wait until Jameis reads the fine print on his contract and realizes he is paying the Saints to be on the roster

  70. BrianBucs Says:

    Jameis is gone. He is no longer a part of the team or the organization.
    So why are we wasting our time reading and talking about him.?
    Joe, Winston has moved on. I suggest you do the same

  71. WestChap Says:

    Jameis was not referring to his time with Bucs. He was listing his available options if he hadn’t taken a vet minimum contract in NO… googling football tips and playing by himself.

    Will be interesting to see what the market looks like for Dalton now that he’s been released… my guess is a bidding war by those teams people thought silly enough to chase Jameis: Pats and Steelers. I’ll be shocked if he’s not making multiples of Jameis with or without JW’s incentives.

  72. Cobraboy Says:

    What a maroon!

    “Learn by himself?”

    What about Koetter? He did no “learning” with Winston? Three coaches for QB’s did no “learning.”

    Five years? Really?

    Jameis Winston is a loser. He refuses to take personal responsibility for his own actions and results.

    Throwing someone else under the bus to make excuses is a sign of the mentally weak.

  73. ToesOnTheLine!!! Says:

    He won’t need Google to learn after one year of playing with the Saints 2nd and 3rd stringers what a bad decision he made wasting a precious year of his career on a near league minimum deal. Hopefully someone who’s advice he respects tells him not to let a bruised ego overrule good business judgement.

  74. '79 Defense Says:

    I supported him and wish him the best. Players say a lot of things and he could have said a lot worse. This is no big deal.

  75. Bucsfan951 Says:

    Funny how 3-4 months ago, he said he was ballin. Now he’s taking a pay cut to learn from “the best”.

    Unless jw told the Bucs before he was drafted #1 overall that he was blind as a bat, needed to sit behind a veteran to learn, and needed a strong internet search engine, he screwed the Bucs over. You fight to be drafted #1 overall just to say you need to sit and learn from a veteran? Get out of here with all of that! It’s just excuse after excuse with this dude!

  76. AlteredEgo Say: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Jamyth still has to make the Saints 53 at final cut down…. the ink is barely dry and he is becoming a liability

  77. Snook Says:

    No one is scared of Jameis in the NFL. New Orleans will figure out he’s worthless after a year just like Carolina did with Gerald McCoy.

  78. Youngbucs Says:

    This guy is a walking talking football throwing circus 🎪🤡🎢🤦‍♂️

  79. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    What a JOKE this guy is/was for us. Is there any doubt in ANYONE’S mind the reason why he didn’t get a second contract? $30M versus $1.1M…LMAO!

  80. Buc1987 Says:

    Oh well he’s gone now.

    Thee end.

  81. Craig Says:

    I have publicly stated, for years, that Jameis needed to hire a QB whisperer during the off-season.

    Jared Goff did it after a disastrous first season and turned it around really well.

    Jameis would only work out by tossing balls to Yo Murphy. That caused his mechanics to come further unhinged and his ability to read defenses to fall down.

    The NFL training season is not enough to remake a QB every year, QBs have to help themselves. Jameis never got there while he was a Bucs and only Jameis can fix Jameis.

  82. AlteredEgo Say: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    My jaw drop has never fully recovered from Jameis on Hard Knocks pointing out and fascination with mating cockroaches on his family home’s back steps….anyone else would be hey !… look over there!

  83. The Buc Realist Says:

    Funny how all of the sheep NOW know after the fact!!!!!! Where were they years ago when the “real” fans were talking about all the turnovers?????????

    where were the sheep then!!!!!!! Its time for another “REALIST REPOST”!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The Buc Realist Says:
    April 19th, 2018 at 11:11 am
    Joe needs to start posting about the “give a-ways” by the offense that negate takeaways!!!!! The offense has been at the bottom of give-a-ways for the last 3 years

    2015 (28) tied 22nd
    2016 (27) tied 24th
    2017 (27) tied 26th

    the offense has literally dropped the ball in protecting the rock!!!!!!!!!!!

    Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Its time to herd the sheep and put them back in the pen!!!!!!!!!!!!

    go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  84. Bobby M. Says:

    He’s received exceptional coaching at every level. Fisher had him prepared as the most “NFL ready” QB of his draft. Koetter has a long history of making the most of a variety of skill sets at QB. Winston’s best professional year came under Koetter’s playcalling. Arians has worked with several great QBs and is well respected enough that Tom Brady aka the GOAT wanted to come play for him. To imply he’s not got good coaching, its a direct reflection of why he sits with a vet minimum contract behind a gimmick QB on the depth chart. Winston is always attempting this “me against the world” mentality when the reality his biggest hurdle is himself.

    And lets be practical about Winston’s deal with the saints…..He’s there for intel, make no mistake. Payton paid a $1 million bucks for insight from a jaded player. The way his contract is structured, there’s nothing there that reflects the confidence they boast about in the media. $100k signing bonus was his pay for training camp, his salary isn’t guaranteed unless he’s on the roster in week 1. They gave $7 million to Bridgewater guaranteed for ONE YEAR! Winston is too dumb or egotistical to see he’s not there because they “believe in him”…..he’s there for intel as Brady and the Bucs WILL be the team to beat in the division.

  85. Buc1987 Says:

    Snook…ya never know.

    I said the exact same thing about Dilfer…and he went to a team with a dominate D and won the whole thing.

  86. Morgus the Magnificent Says:

    Asdf Says:
    April 30th, 2020 at 9:25 am
    If people stop commenting on the Jameis articles (driving traffic which the Joe’s monetize) maybe they coverage will be more about the team we have in place!

    …..and Asdf comments to add to the click totals. LOL

  87. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Remember the look on Jimbo’s face when he realized Jameis was on the sidelines after he had been told to stay in the locker room for the first half or whatever it was…I guess by default we have the answer to who will have a better NFL career…Jameis or Marcus….

  88. Morgus the Magnificent Says:


  89. TomTerrific Says:


    Wasn’t Jamoist supposed to be our franchise changing QB? Maybe the turnover machine should Google the 2015 NFL draft. When you are a QB and the first draft pick, results are expected, not excuses. I couldn’t be happier that he is gone. Please infect the Saints with your loser mentality. He’ll never win anything.

  90. Oneilbucs Says:


  91. Buc4evr Says:

    Glad we have Brady, but for what Winston is being paid we could have resigned him as a backup and he could have sat for a few years to learn from Brady. For all you people saying Winston will never win anything, I heard the same thing about other certain Buc’s QB’s over the years. Revenge is a hell of a motivator and now Winston is in our division.

  92. Bculaw Says:

    I Read the whole transcript. He was very respectful of the game and humble throughout. Pitch perfect opening interview, IMO. Not sure these comments were intended as a jab at his former coaches, as much as a comment about what he had been doing since leaving the Bucs during this off-season with no team. But, like everything else he says, every little word will be scrutinized from every angle. He’s a classic villain and everyone looks for reasons to hate him more.

    His agent should teach him the art of saying nothing (ala Tiger Woods). Jameis may have a huge personality, but he is too polarizing to win folks over. This interview was a perfect example. 19 minutes of a perfect introductory interview and one vague comment results in blow back. He should stay silent and do his talking on the field and in the locker room. He will never be loved. He will never be marketable. So there’s no use in adding fuel to the fire.

  93. BucEmUp Says:

    So dumb to get rid of this guy….so.stupud but THATS THE BUCS!!!!!

  94. unbelievable Says:

    Lol Joe I think you’re being a little too sensitive about all this.

    This was not another swipe at the Bucs. I watched the whole interview. Jameis was acknowledging he can learn more from studying under a HOF QB vs. being the guy himself and trying to learn during live action.

    This might be very good, and humbling, for him.

  95. 541BucsFan Says:

    Winston strikes me as being just a little crazy.

  96. Jmarkbuc Says:


    Why would JW want to play here? He was let go.

    The Bucs are done with him, why would they put him back on the team at any price. People who think you get fired from a job and then would go back to it are not aware of how the world works

  97. mark2001 Says:

    Honesly, I don’t know if he has learned anything. To blame his number of brain dead plays on the fact that he wasn’t taught to do otherwise…that he had to learn on his own…just shows me that letting him go was the smartest move of the offseason. This organization spent millions on trying to teach him…develop him. And he said he had to learn by himself? The turnover machine will never learn and accept responsibility for his actions.

  98. Jmarkbuc Says:

    Dalton is available, now that is a viable backup and better than Gabbert. Unfortunately we have no $$.

  99. William Walls Says:

    I wonder to what degree Florida’s college rivalries impacted all of this. I didn’t go to college in Florida, but I grew up here. I like Florida. I like Florida State. I even like Miami and South Florida. But I don’t love any of them. I have no personal loyalty toward any one of them over another.

    So, hailing from Florida State as he did, I was predisposed toward liking Jameis, hoping we drafted him, and liking the pick when the Bucs got him. I didn’t love the pick–I liked it.

    When Jameis did well, I was thrilled. When he struggled, I was disappointed. When the struggles continued, I grew increasingly frustrated. But I always hoped that the light bulb would switch on for him. Throughout his time in Tampa Bay (and for one of his seasons in Tallahassee, too), Jameis was a glass cannon. He’d carve up opposing defenses all day long, gaining yards, scoring touchdowns, only to find some way to put victory in jeopardy with an extremely poor decision.

    After a while, you got to where you could almost feel it about to happen. It wasn’t usually when a play would break down. That was usually when Jameis was at his best. Jameis is a brilliant tactician on the field. It was when the game situation resulted in a huge momentum shift in the opponent’s favor that the wheels would come off, that he would try to put the team on his back and be the lone hero. His vision would constrict and he would start to lock onto particular receivers rather than seeing the entire field and reading what the whole defense was doing. That’s when he would flip from hero to zero and either hold the ball too long and take a sack for a huge loss or force a throw that practically all professional quarterbacks know better than to attempt.

    Some people, no matter their level of talent, simply fall apart under pressure. Soldiers who’ve seen combat talk about this. It has nothing to do with character, intelligence, or work ethic. That sort of thing has to be overcome by constant exposure to pressure until they figure out how to succeed under that pressure–and some people just don’t have it in them. And, just as with soldiers in combat, no one can know whether a person can eventually overcome it–not even that person themselves–until they either succeed or fail.

    It’s a shame that Jameis wasn’t able to correct that part of his game. He has all the physical and mental tools for tremendous success, even legendary success, in the NFL. But his inability to be calm in the midst of the storm is what ruined his career in Tampa Bay.

    For his sake, I still hope he figures it out. But Tampa Bay had waited long enough and spent enough money trying to get him there. Now, his education will have to be on someone else’s tab–and that’s fair.

    Good luck, Jameis, and godspeed.

  100. ©MadMax Says:

    Shut up Jay-miss, Americas turnover machine!!

    You wouldnt do what they were coaching you to do and how you practiced. You get in game, get that classic deer in the headlights DUH look and do whatever you want to. Every other team knows it. Thats why only one team would sign your dmba$S, and for only 1.1 mill.

    You’re a freaking joke dude. And we know they signed you mainly to get the BA/BL plays!! You know it too, so stop kidding yourself!! Break a leg in practice there Jay-miss, or anything for that matter! Gonna sing all you can so you can see your old team go down. But thats alright, you know what they say about Karma. Are you googling how to crotch grab those Saints cheerleaders and get away with it? LOL!!!

    1.1 mill….from wanting $30mill to $1.1…WOW BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

  101. stravenite Says:

    A Bucs playbook purchase by Payton, he will not be on their roster at the season start, really is sad this is all he could get after being drafted nbr 1 five years ago, go Bucs !

  102. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Commenting on Jameis threads is like popping those bubble pack bubbles…just can’t stop 🙂

  103. unbelievable Says:

    good post william walls

  104. QBKilla Says:

    Sounds like Jame-ass needs some butt-hurt cream.

  105. tbbucs3 Says:

    Bruce Arians treated Jameis like dirt especially all off season.

  106. tbbucs3 Says:

    Its about time Jameis takes a shot a Bruce

  107. Architek Says:

    Go away please – you’re no longer our QB.

  108. kgh4life Says:


    If you have a true franchise QB do you really need a mentor? Did Payton Manning have a mentor, Drew Brees, Ben Rothlisberger, Russel Wilson, Andrew Luck? If Jameis was a consistent starter why would he need a mentor 4 years into his NFL career? Seems to me your just making excuses.

  109. Pewter Power Says:

    Is this idiot really implying he didn’t get coaching and all the strides he made were done all by himself? Thank god he’s gone, his press conferences were on a lovie smith level and was unbearable

  110. Buc1987 Says:

    Architek…tell that to Joe.

  111. DoooshLaRue Says:

    QBKilla Says:
    April 30th, 2020 at 12:06 pm
    Sounds like Jame-ass needs some butt-hurt cream.


    Ndog, get your latex gloves and wig ready.

  112. Cobraboy Says:

    I think Bobby M has it right: the Saints just spent $100,000 in Buc intel.

  113. Cobraboy Says:

    I look forward to pre-season when Winston is throwing to future ambulance drivers and beer haulers as the Joes are so fond of saying.

    I wonder if he be ballin’ then…

  114. SteveK Says:

    A quick Google search for “turnover margin” shows, whomever wins the turnover battle, over the last 50 years, wins the game 70% of the time. That might be worth adding to his list of google knowledge building searches.

    I wish Jameis well! And that answer would rub me the wrong way if he were a Buc.

  115. Tye Says:

    There does seem to be something off about his mental stability every time he makes comments… No longer the Bucs problem!
    He is on a path of soon joining Manuel and Ponder in life after football..
    Like I’ve said before, Good riddance to him and the rollercoaster he road out on!

    His worshipper surely won’t be missed around here either so actual Bucs fans can get back to all things Bucs!

  116. BucsFan81 Says:

    I don’t wish for any player to get hurt but Damn I want to see Jameis start for the saints when we play them. So I can see JPP and SHAQ make Winston eat dirt…

  117. Jeebs the Honey Bear Says:

    In the immortal words of Ace Ventura: “Le-hoo-se-her”… Which of course translates to LOSER.

  118. DanBucsFan Says:

    As a FSU & BUCS fan, I was one of the few Winston supporters. However,this is outrageous to say he didn’t receive good coaching. Mr. ” speak softly but carry a big stick” a.k.a. Dirk Koetter and Mr. ” no risk it no biscuit ” a.k.a. Bruce Arians are absolutely two of the best offensive minds in the Nfl, and that is a fact not an opinion. So if this is how it is gonna be portrayed by JW then he is a fugazi !!

  119. mark2001 Says:

    tbb3…please… Arians was the biggest apologist on the planet for Jameis the first half of the season. He was trying to publicly cover for the guy when he figuratively dumped a load on the field. But when he finally figured out that Jameis wouldn’t change…learn… and become the NFL franchise QB he had hoped, he finally said what he really thought. Again, he figured out that Jameis wouldn’t change, in spite of possibly more help in player development than every other QB in the history of the league had.

  120. tbbucs3 Says:

    “There does seem to be something off about his mental stability every time he makes comments… No longer the Bucs problem!”

    Seriously? Jameis has kept his mouth shut his entire time as a Buccaneer. Litteraly the only time he opened his mouth to defend himself was when he got after David Carr on twitter.

    Jameis has held himself with pure class and held a high standard while IN Tampa And thats a fact before you trolls talk about 1 Uber incident in Arizona.

  121. DanBucsFan Says:

    I hope this is just because he is bitter. I am foolish to expect a 5th year nfl qb to have the professional attitude and be a class act by taking the high road. Im sure the Dirk and BA were hard on him, well SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP THIS IS PRO FOOTBALL NOT BAD-MITTEN

  122. tbbucs3 Says:

    Jameis was a great person in the Tampa community and did more than 99% of the trolls who criticize him in the Bay area.

  123. mark2001 Says:

    Did more than 99% of us…likely…but we didn’t siphon off 60 mil. off the Glazers over the last five years. If you compare him to those in the community that make an average of 12 mil. a year, I don’t think he did more than 99% of multi-millionaires.

    I would bet if you compared our salaries to his, in our places of employment, that our bosses found our production 99% more satisfactory than Jameis’s bosses did. And frankly that he ended up being even close to the value of the investment in him, compared to us.

  124. Kansas95Buc Says:

    look at all these butt hurt people lmao

  125. mark2001 Says:

    And in fact tbb3… how many regular Tampa Bay residents wouldn’t have lost their jobs, and likely seen their entire lives destroyed, if they had been on the bad end of an incident like the uber incident?

  126. Architek Says:

    I’ve tried but (he’s) not listening 🙂

    We have too many positive storylines to be focusing on a Saints player like this!

  127. DanBucsFan Says:

    tbbucs3… I feel as being honest… as supporters of Winston we did overlook quite a bit of head shaking moves he has made

  128. Morgus the Magnificent Says:

    [Naw man, you’re not going to start a flamewar with your trolling. — Joe]

  129. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Wish the young brotha well.
    But he’s the opposition now. So phuck’em

  130. PhillyBuc Says:

    He must have googled “how to throw a jump pass check down” and failed to comprehend. See 1st half of Falcons game LY
    How many Bible verses did he quote this time?

  131. T REX Says:

    Winston is human garbage. Total loser pos.

    Anyone supporting him is also a pos and garbage.

    Attack anyone supporting winston.

  132. mark2001 Says:

    T Rex..harsh… I don’t believe that. Some may have blinded themselves as to where he stands as an NFL QB, and some of the character issues he has shown. But sports isn’t the only place in America where we see that. You could call it a cult of personality…but pos and such? I don’t think so.

  133. MTM Says:

    Nice to here victimhood isn’t just for every day people but NFL back ups as well. See ya Mr Pick 6!!

  134. simeon Says:

    Jameis is an idiot. He called the saints harvard but one of the best QB coaches ever was brought in to Winston last year, and that coach kicked him to the curb.

  135. WestChap Says:

    Total class… Jameis? Please! He has plenty of positive attributes without making ones up. He’s just not classy… period. And if you think he is, its a pretty good sign that you aren’t either.

    Stick with the go-to line for Jameis… he works hard. Granted, that’s faint praise for #1 pick, but hard working is at least a place from which to start rebuilding his career. As for becoming a classy, dignified person… hmm, I guess every day that goes by without an inappropriate behavior is progress but he’s working from behind on that front. We’ll never really know if he’s made it as the behavior that counts is when no one is watching… but we’re sure to know if he stumbles as every camera in the French Quarter will be on the lookout for any Mardi Gras missteps.

  136. Chris Says:

    After seeing this, it’s just another sign the kid needs to grow up. Fischer coached him up. Koetter is no QB slouch and is well respected in the league as an offensive mind and coach who Winston had for 4 years. They didn’t see eye to eye bc Winston couldn’t stop throwing the football to the other team.

    On joes own pod cast, said it himself there was a source that jameis lost the respect of guys in the locker room because he didn’t lead by example and lied to the entire organization with the Uber incident that resulted in his suspension.

    The teams body language said it all. How can you follow a leader who’s actions/results don’t reflect what they speak?

  137. JimmyJack Says:

    Man y’all getting hot in here…….Let me remind you of the good news. Winston is irrevalnt right now. His job is to ride the pine behind somebody he has no chance to beat out. He is not a factor on the field at all.

    We get a whole year to get over this nonsense arguing. There will be nothing to argue about…….unless he fumbles the clipboard. We could breathe a sigh of relief and not have to look over our shoulders.

    Yes it all could change but it also could not. Needless to worry about ifs……You do that and you’ll never sleep a wink a day in your life.

    When the season starts we can worry about only our Bucs and our new QB. Winston will be a total nonfactor until further notice. When the games get going we actually won’t have to Winston stuff to argue about and that’s a beautiful thing if you ask me. Maybe we can start focusing more on the other positions and players on the field.

    GO BUCS!!!!

  138. Cobraboy Says:

    tbbucs3 Says:

    Jameis was a great person in the Tampa community and did more than 99% of the trolls who criticize him in the Bay area.

    So what? Was he in Tampa to be a philanthropist…or win football games?

    He failed in the latter, and that is “99%” of what “trolls” care about when the dust settles.

    Wanna bet Roberto Aguayo also did more for the “community” than “99%” of the “trolls?”

    How did that work out?

    There is something deeply disturbing if the Winston teat-hangers.

  139. Eric Says:

    The whisper my arse I’ve said it from day one this guy reeks!

  140. stvcl Says:

    How you liking that chump change contract Mr. America’s Quarterback? Welcome to your new reality of being a serviceable, low wage journeyman backup qb like Josh Johnson. Eat those W’s.

  141. Chris Says:

    Jameis did good things in the community but so did other bad people who did other hideous things behind closed doors.

  142. Bucs Fan Says:

    TREX you sir are the POS. Lets get that straight.

  143. Tbbucs3 Says:


    When did I apply that Jameis wasn’t good at his job? He was capable of elite production when he was down here.

    If you wanna talk about winning football games why don’t you talk about Jason Lichts inability to build a defense that can stop the pass?

    It would’ve been nice to have a defense to stop Paxton Lynch, Case Keenum, Marcus Mariota and not let up 6 TDs to Mitch Trubisky.

  144. LM Says:

    America’s Joke Pro Groper Brainless Winston’s head coach Is Bruce Arians. Author of a book called Quarterback Whisperer. 2 Time Coach of the Year. But some how he has to learn from Google…

    Sure Jameis, nice try. Dinosaurs still roam the earth too.

  145. Mike Johnson Says:

    Unlike about 75% of NFL QB’s , Jameis never had the benefit of tutor ledge behind a vet. He was thrown into fire. right out of college. So his comments are not completely off kilter. He’s gonna get paid about 75 grand per game to sit and learn from one of the best in the league and a great coaching staff. Its gonna really make him better. I can’t wait for him to march into Ray jay one day and walk out having a lot of you scratching your heads in defeat. Karma is funny that way.And it be served..Cold sometimes.

  146. JimmyJack Says:

    Tbbucs3………The defense argument(or excuse, whatever) is valid. But at the end of the day football, unlike any sport, comes down to one game. You get one drive. One play.

    The great ones make that play. They find a way to deliver the win. Winston simply failed far too often in those pivotal moments. On that one play.

    This past season was the most damming example when he had the ball in his hands multiple times and could not make the play. The chances to lead us to vicorty was there and he outright choked. That’s not greatness and stats don’t mask that. And much of his failures was on first down for crying out loud. First down!!! That’s just unacceptable.

    And it’s not just the one score game he ended with choke job pick or pick six. It’s many other pivotal moments…….Like the INT in the redzone in London when our offense finally stated to move the ball and turn momentum. This is just not what great QB play should look like.

    It’s not about thirty……its about that one time when you really needed it and Winston just could not do it. You get one play.

  147. 2002WasALongTimeAgo Says:

    We have the GOAT who is working on SB ring #7, and wrote a classy farewell to owners, coaches, and fans. He’s already sent fans a video here! Go Bucs!

    Gone is Mr.30/30, newly blind, ballin’, see ya in Feb, Uber banned Google user.


    I hope OxfordU/AstraZeneca is right about having their vaccine widely available in September. It’s been too long to resume a packed RJS with 60,000 flags waving!

  148. Soberinsac Says:

    This guy throws a pick 6 to lose us the game. Then says he’s ballin. That’s all I or you need to know. Don’t let the door knob hit ya where the good lord split ya!! Phuck the Aints!!

  149. JimmyJack Says:

    You have to judge the QB separate from the defense. Both need to do their job and both need to get judged accordingly.

    Especially when you look back at Winston’s defining moments of 2019…….Most all of them came in games where the defense was playing good ball. The defense excuse can only go so far…….It does not explain the OT pick? It defientally don’t explain the Texans meltdown?

    You can’t just broadly explain all the bad QB positions by pointing to the other side of the ball. Well, I guess you can but that’s extremely unfair. It’s downright treason to any open minded fan.

  150. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    JJ Winston apologists will always point at the defense, missed field goals and offensive line holes as reasons why it is OK JW never lead us anywhere but the basement. The difference is those of us who wanted him gone see the good JW did on the field; he simply couldn’t get over the hump to be a winning QB anywhere but in fantasy football.

  151. jmarkbuc Says:

    NFL minimum salary for 5yr vet $790k

    JW 1yr/ 1.1 M..with a long list of incentives (like playoff playing time) to 4.7M

    Mariota 2yr/17.6M

    From Ballin’ and 30 per to barely over league minimum. Jameis will say all the right things in Saints camp, and might make the team . But let’s face it, Payton gave him basically a league minimum interview contract.

    This crap about Harvard is his butt hurt feelings showing. Looks like, for the moment, Mariota came out on top.

  152. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    another 1st overall NFL bust…my guess NO will trade him for a draft pick in October to a QB needy team

  153. JimmyJack Says:

    Yes SC they will point to it…….But they can’t do that from this year. They can’t blame the defense for the 1st game of the year……..or the last two…………And they can’t blame it for a lot of the moments in between.

    I mean you gonna point to a kicker in the Atlanta game? How about LDV come up with a late game heroic fumble. That is a game changing play. A great QB would have his defenses back and ice it right then and there. Us fans should have been cheering the whole 4th Quarter knowing we had that game under control…….Not on freaking pins and needles against a weak ass Falcons team!!! WTF.

    Then to end the game the defense holds again on the endline to send it to OT and our QB can’t run one freaking play………..God that still sticks in my crawl!

    Blaming a kicker is the easy way out………That offense was downright disgraceful in the 2nd half. Led by one guy.

    We had a running game and a defense. Let’s blame the kicker.

  154. Dapostman Says:

    As I’ve stated before in other JW posts Winston is on the Jim Plunkett career path. #1 overall pick on a bad team, gets released and lands with a good team and organization.

    Wins 2 Super Bowls.


  155. JimmyJack Says:

    Blame a kicker all you want but you freaking know as well as anybody……The QB has far more control on the outcome of a game then a dam kicker.

    Anybody using that argument is a choice word in mine opinion. And it begins with a P.

  156. Dapostman Says:


    Yes I will blame the kicker when the snap, hold and blocking are good and the make rate for that distance (34yds) is 94%.

    That is on our NFL kicker.


  157. JimmyJack Says:

    That said we do need better kicking…….If you go up against a nasty defense you are probably gonna need good kicking to win.

    You are gonna have to lean on good kicking to make a title run in most cases.

    But let’s not freaking suggest the darn Falcoln have some cutthraot defense where you need a good kicker to beat them. If you gotta rely on a darn kicker to beat a soft ass Falcolns defense you get problems…..and it aren’t the kicker.

  158. Chris Says:

    Jameis was so bad in situational football. If he didn’t throw a money ball for an explosive TD, it was 3 and out or a turnover. Rarely did you see him move the ball get a couple first downs , then throw the ball away on third down and take a punt and play field position.

    Fact: Bucs defense was one of the worst when it came to opposing offenses having great starting field position. They were constantly put in bad situations with Winston at QBs for 5 years.

  159. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Remind me….which game did our former “gunslinger”….come from behind delivering a heroic victory ? …..one ?…just one game in 5 years

  160. JimmyJack Says:

    Dapostman…………OK ya got me there. And your right. You do gotta absolutely blame the kicker for them misses.

    The problem is this blame game we always get caught up on. Like we gotta blame just the kicker for the Atlanta game.

    My comment stems from repeatedly having the kicker brought up into a QB conversation……The Atlanta game is the perfect example because they are a soft ass defense that any high powered offense should not have so many issues with like Winston’s offense did. Missed kicks does not absolve our offensive inneffiency from that game.

    The offense was putrid. We had one great play before the half and we looked lost as hell the rest of the game. They had trouble moving the ball all day. And they let the Falcons weak defense stall us most the time when we crossed midfield.

    Winston and his offense were a let down in that game. You are right about the kicker but tahts a separate discussion

  161. T REX Says:

    Bucs fan: LOL. I love people like you. I said nothing to YOU personally but you feel the need to take a swipe at me. Why? Winston is garbage. A loser. A POS. He’s gone. Anyone can join him. He’s not a Buc. Not worthy of the uniform IMHO. Guess what WINSTON STILL SUCKS!

    Celebrate that POS is Gone gone gone. Hells yeah.

    Stay safe y’all.

  162. Hard brown Says:

    Let Jameis be when he comes back and silent y’all hating ass write comments then cause he coming wit it.

  163. Wesley Says:

    He an average q.b., one day he’ll realize it.

  164. westernbuc Says:

    Two things that Jameis will benefit from:

    Working with two hall of famers in Brees and Payton. Outside of Brady/Belichick there’s no better combo to study under.

    Playing in a new offense. I know everyone loves Arians, but he ran the same offense as Koetter without using tight ends

    Payton does so many quick passes, screens, dump offs, and the occasional deep shot. I’d love to see Jameis in a system like that.

  165. View from 132 Says:

    Who cares. Backup QB for the Saints. Move on.

  166. Youngbucs Says:

    Sean Payton is not a hof coach lol y’all throw around hof to loosely 😂

  167. Youngbucs Says:

    Andy Reid would get in before Payton.

  168. Kansas95Buc Says:

    Hey T-Rex:

  169. Kansas95Buc Says:


  170. Kansas95Buc Says:

    T REX Says:

    April 30th, 2020 at 1:16 pm

    Winston is human garbage. Total loser pos.

    Anyone supporting him is also a pos and garbage.

    Attack anyone supporting winston.

    So we’re advocating violence and people be in moderation for less? How did my last comment get erased but this guy can advocate violence? This is where we’re at Joe(s)?

  171. FuNkYxMuNkEy Says:

    This is a load of BS. He has had some of the best QB guys to work with and his ego got in the way. He thought he was Favre but was really a poor man’s Testeverde. Can you please stop posting about this trash. Why do you think no team wanted him. Turnovers and he’s 1 woman away from being out of the league. Good riddance. I’m a FSU guy and didnt like him then. He’s the Aints problem now bye felicia

  172. Isaac haggins Says:

    Hey Reggie Bush ( totally under rush utilized) May have been a hall of fame guy but not with the likes of Sean Peyton but Alvin K is in the best place he could be under Peyton . I don’t believe Winston ever really had a Romo football type coach or qb coach , he did have experienced nfl guys with their system and their do boys as qb coaches and so called coordinators !!! I predicted this would start mid season when he totally makes Licht look like a fool ( not for Brady) but fo Gabbert , another Bruce do Boy , He isn’t good at all !!! Did anyone see him play last pre season , In a system he knew !!! Bruce ignores it because he’s his do boy ( meathead jock disease) Licht does the Same with Ba , he’s just a boss do boy and that will implode all this talent , im afraid !!!

  173. Anonymous Says:

    Payton does so many quick passes, screens, dump offs, and the occasional deep shot. I’d love to see Jameis in a system like that.

    Which is what Jameis is worst in the league doing, 70 something QBR…I wish them well trying, though.

  174. Buczilla Says:

    Jameis is probably p!ssed and rightfully so. No one likes to be fired. He’s had two coaches now that have had success with quarterbacks that were less talented than him. He failed them both and they get the benefit of the doubt over a quarterback that has only proven that he is inconsistent as hell.

    Unless a miracle occurs, Jameis will more than likely fail miserably with the Saints, just like he did with us. He is who he is. Personally, I wish him all the luck in the world, but he has joined a division foe and I can wish nothing but bad things for him on the football field. Luckily I doubt that I will be dissapointed.

  175. Alstottrunawaytrain Says:

    Basically Payton and the Saints think they paid $1 million for the Bucs playbook. And that’s all there is to it.

  176. Architek Says:

    You guys do realize the more traffic generated from Jameis posts will keep his name relevant and trending. If we ignore and don’t react to the Jameis stuff it will die off sooner than later.

    Debating the defense and run game and the color of clouds in the sky won’t change his wins total and it won’t bring him back. The ship has sailed and I promise you no one at Advent Healthcare is game planning for him.

    Doesn’t it feel great to be relevant?

  177. Lokog Says:

    Jaymiss winsnot is the biggest bust in the history of the nfl glad hes gone

  178. Howard Cosell Says:

    Howard is on record (here at JBF) as being truly optimistic for the 1st time in decades!
    Howard was fooled into false optimism many times. The false optimism always felt dirty, like Howard needed a shower after thinking about it, but this 2020 Bucs optimism feels real and respectable and not cheap or tawdry in any way

  179. Howard Cosell Says:

    That said we better hope Brees stays healthy and Winston gets bored and goes to the West coast.
    If Howard had to lay $$$ he would bet that Winston eventually will be a winning playoff QB for someone. Lets just hope that it’s not for the Saints after Brady retires.

  180. MDFree Says:

    I can see how this might be taken as a shot toward the Bucs coaching staff and it very well might be. But I think what Jameis is alluding to here is that he’s never had to opportunity to just sit and learn. He never had someone show him “this is the way”. Because he’s always been THE guy. All the way from Florida state to now. I think a year sitting behind one of the Greats in Drew Brees and an exceptional offensive mind in Sean Payton will be transformative for him and he will excel after Brees retires. And as much as I love BA, he might be a little bit over rated as far as being a “QB whisperer”. Even Peyton Manning called him out recently for the boat load of picks he threw under his tutelage in his rookie season. The difference is Peyton got another year to learn under him. Carson Palmer had another year as well after throwing a slew of picks. Jameis wasn’t afforded the same opportunity because Arians knew his career would be tied to Jameis success or lack thereof. And I’m positive Jameis wouldn’t have thrown anywhere near 30 picks the second year in his offense.

  181. BacktaBucs Says:

    Jameis regrets if his demeanor or presence made Tampa Bay uncomfortable in any way.

    Stay classy Tampa Bay!

  182. Howard Cosell Says:

    ^That’s a Burn! LOL

    Howard really does feel like Winston got short-changed by…you know who!…(hint: the only constant)….but then many players have been short changed by the Bucs over that time period

    That said, Howard hopes this is finally the year the owners field a respectable team

  183. Howard Cosell Says:

    ….short changed by being thrown into a sloppy at best organization (by NFL standards). I can relate. If you come out of college and get a high paying job at a company with poor culture it can effect you adversely.

  184. Howard Cosell Says:

    ….and by poor culture I mean a company where it’s impossible really get anyone to teach you the job. Your co-workers are siloed, cliqued….Coworkers are dating , every form of dysfunction…..and no one daring to really address the big picture.
    Obviously Howard has only been in 1 Buc as visitor and only in public areas, but there has to be an explanation, and Howard might be knocking on the truth in some ways

  185. Jim Says:

    I’m just here for the comments…

  186. Matt Says:

    Lol Jim me too. Joe, just go ahead and make this thread a sticky!

    He gives us more fuel to burn him with once again? Check ya sheets I’m Ballin Google it. Lol. He has 0 filter on his mouth and the only intelligent sounding words that do ever come out of his mouth are cliches. He’s a penny stock right now a pink sheet and he’s playing for vet minimum essentially.

    Y’all should Listen to Pat McAfee’s story about how Brees and another Backup QB a couple years ago embarrassed Garrett Grayson out of the QB meetings because he didn’t know the playbook. This could get epically ugly, Hard Knocks in Nawlins please.

  187. Clean House Says:

    to hell with BA and Licht

  188. Ivan The Insider Says:

    America’s 97% OFF Discount Salary Quarterback

  189. 2002WasALongTimeAgo Says:

    Matt: But, he’s a hard worker, first in/first out.. don’t forget the “line”!

  190. T REX Says:

    Kansas? Violence? How do you attack someone on a message board? With words. Sorry dude but another epic fail by one of the winston nut riders. Losers…all of you. Go be saints fans. We dont need you
    You’re nobody’s. Lol. Your time is over. We will be slowly transitioning you out. Punks.

  191. Bucy Says:

    Not only a bad quarter back, also a bad person and a bad public speaker. Now sit on the bench and shut it.

  192. Bradybru Says:

    Yes please warm that bench. Oh but you can come off only to turn the ball over to us.

  193. Bradybru Says:

    He is Mr Ungrateful, no one had as many chances as he had. Why so long to get LASIK? Garbage in and garbage out

  194. Bucsfan77 Says:

    I thought at one time it was stated he has been a student of the game his whole life…. oh wait I checked his sheet, he failed every class.