Tom Brady’s Legacy

March 29th, 2020

Discusses TB to TB.

Four-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback Terry Bradshaw recently scolded Tom Brady for letting his ego get the best of him and for leaving New England for Tampa Bay.

And Bradshaw did not mean that as a compliment.

Former Bucs guard Ian Beckles agrees with Bradshaw. Only difference is, Beckles very much means it as a compliment.

Taking to his podcast “In the Trenches,” Beckles, now a popular local sports radio personality, believes Brady wants to cement his reputation as the greatest of all time by leading the Bucs to the Super Bowl.

“Everybody is talking about the Chargers or Tennessee,” Beckles said of potential landing spots in recent weeks for Brady, then a free agent. “Tennessee might have been a good fit. But how much credit would Tom Brady have gotten if he took Tennessee to the Super Bowl? Maybe none, because they were pretty close last year with [Ryan] Tannehill, who stunk for his whole career.

“So now we have Tom Brady [coming to Tampa]. The Buccaneers are the losingest franchise in major sports history. I don’t mean just football. All sports. All sports. … Losingest team in all of sports. If you come here with a team that hasn’t won a playoff game in 15 years or so, and you mess around and take this team to the promised land — that’s not saying he is going to — but if he does, whatever legacy he had before which is probably untouchable, you can forget about it, OK. You can forget about it.

“Very few people end it that way. John Elway ended it that way but he didn’t have six championships. Peyton Manning ended it that way but he had [one]. Tom Brady would put him in a stratosphere that no one else will ever touch him.”

Beckles makes a helluva point. Don’t think this hasn’t crossed Brady’s mind.

It reminds Joe of a story Bucs icon Warren Sapp told. He was somewhere having a conversation with a Who’s Who of champions including Michael Irvin and Michael Jordan. An argument broke out about who had the biggest impact

Irvin spoke up and boasted of his three titles with the Cowboys when Jordan stopped Irvin, pointed at Sapp and said, “Yeah, but he got Tampa a ring!”

Even the greatest like Jordan knows if you can turn the Bucs around, you are a champion in another realm.

37 Responses to “Tom Brady’s Legacy”

  1. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    That is certainly a valid point from Beckles…….and I disagree with Bradshaw who I think is jealous…..

    The other reasons for Brady were Arians, Evans & Godwin…..who can blame him?

  2. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    First team to have homefield advantage in the Superbowl. Winning it would be the icing on top. We’d have done something no other team has done.

    That would make up for our first season in a big way.

    So would going undefeated, but I’m not delusional.

    Not many teams have gone all in on years the Superbowl was in their town. We have, and we’ll built to last, depending on the draft.

  3. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    And yes, that first season still hurts.

  4. Thisisouryear!!! Says:

    This could be a turning point for this franchise. Arians could be filling Parcells role for New England. If they groom the next qb before Brady leaves. They could be setting up the next 10 years. A shift in this franchise direction would go even further for Brady’s reputation.

  5. JA Says:


    “First team to have homefield advantage in the Superbowl. Winning it would be the icing on top. We’d have done something no other team has done …
    So would going undefeated, but I’m not delusional.”

    If I were you I’d keep that little tidbit from my shrink.

    Just kidding. You’re one of the few on this site who overshadows those who convey thoughts as if English was their second language and hate was their first. Keep up the good work.

    How’s that for a left handed compliment?

  6. FortMyersDave Says:

    Bradshaw simply identifies with Winston as he had got some criticism for turning the ball over just like JW. The big difference is that Terry played for a winner and was part of a dynasty while Winston led the team to an average of 6 wins or so per season with the Bucs…..

    Beckles makes a terrific point, making the Bucs a champion would be the cherry on the cake for TB12’s career….. The fact that the Bucs have talented receivers while the Pats seem to be full of journeymen wideouts besides Edelman can not be ignored either.

  7. Bird Says:

    Pretty good story

    “He got tampa a ring”
    isnt that the truth. Not easy to win here apparently

  8. TheBradyBunch Says:

    Thisisouryear – ok, we are all glad the GOAT is coming to Tampa but my god some of you are delusional. So you think some scrub 4th round QB is going to lead the team for a decade after Brady leaves because he rode the pine while Brady was on the field. C’mon man! Brady will only have so much influence on his backups. Guys that don’t have the skillset to be franchise QBs have low ceilings. There is a reason QBs fall to the 4th and 5th rounds. They aren’t very good! Brady was basically a one in a million. Also, he didn’t become great because he got to back up Drew Bledsoe for a while. Get real man. This is a two year window and then we will be scrambling for a QB soon.

  9. Alanbucsfan Says:

    What Mr Beckles says may be true, but I don’t think that is Brady’s motivation.
    If Brady was offered the same deal in New England, he would have stayed.
    Belichick obviously didn’t think he was worth it anymore.

  10. Smashsquatch Says:

    100% spot on, plus he likes the talent and coaches. It’s his chance to have the ultimate mic drop moment, sans Belichick.

  11. Bucnjim5656 Says:

    I think it would be a waste to have Brady here and not have a potential franchise QB. Even though Tua seems injury prone I wouldn’t mind seeing the Bucs move up and make a play on him. I will admit I don’t know enough about any other QB in the draft besides him and Borrows to pass judgement.

  12. ATrain Says:

    Bradshaw talking about someone’s Else ego


    Mr Ego telling someone else their ego got in the way


    That’s about funny

  13. WhatTheBuc Says:

    Brady didn’t leave New England for his ego. He left because they offered him a garbage contract after all he has done for them. Bill took a giant shiz on him. If anything its revenge. BB neglected the offense because Brady always made it work with whoever was out there. Bill doesn’t want to admit that he did a piss poor job of putting talent on offense. Brady may not be able to make chicken salad out of chicken shiz anymore but he can take these weapons in Tampa and win.

  14. JonJohn Says:

    Jordan knows who the Bucs are?!??

  15. WhatTheBuc Says:

    Bucnjim, If you’re the bucs and you sign Brady, you are all in for the next 2 seasons. Your 1st round pick has to help you win now. Drafting g a QB in round 1 is not happening. There will be QBs available in 2 years that the bucs can look at. Look how many were available via free agency and the draft this year. Do you think Brady would have signed with tampa if they told him that they were looking at drafting a QB?

  16. ModHairKen Says:

    “Beckles, now a popular local sports radio personality.”

    Fake news.

  17. TheBradyBunch Says:

    Lol, agreed BucnJim. Wasting our 1st round pick, even wasting that and a 2nd maybe one or two other picks to move up for a QB after Brady leaves would be beyond stupid. If they did that Licht and Arians would have to be fired immediately.

  18. TheBradyBunch Says:

    Sorry meant to say I agree with WhatTheBuc.

  19. geno711 Says:

    Guys who are frequently quoted here include Ian Beckles, Michael Clayton, and some reserve quarterback from the past I do not remember off hand.

    In my opinion Beckles and Clayton clearly shared in:

    The losingest franchise in major sports history.

    I don’t mind them both having opinions but both of their constant hate on players on the Buc’s that played their same position as them should be looked at with a pound of salt or at least a grain of salt.

    Who do I appreciate more:
    Offensive lineman on Bucs now or Ian Beckles. I go with today’s guys.
    Wide Receivers now on the Buc’s or Michael Clayton. I go with today’s guys.

  20. WestChap Says:

    Mark me down as delusional… and, yes, Brady was totally swayed by the fact he will get 90%+ of the credit even though the team was already on the brink last year.

    I disagree that Brady would have signed same deal with Pats… maybe he would have signed a 3 year commitment last year but Bill didn’t offer anything more than a single year and that decision to go year-to-year was the straw that broke the ever loyal camel’s back. Thank you, Bill… you maniacal, over controlling scowler extraordinaire! You offended Brady and we get to enjoy his revenge.

    I am a little disappointed Bill hasn’t hired our prior QB yet… maybe he will when the price hits rock bottom. That would be fun to watch his expressions for the first 4 or 5 turnovers… after that it would get boring as Stidham would be starting from then on but oh the fun while it lasts. Still can’t forget all the predictions from posers on this site warning us how quickly Pats would swoop in for the blameless one.

  21. Smashsquatch Says:

    In leaving, Brady saddles the Pats with $13.5m dead cap space. Had the Pats committed to two more years with Brady they would have needed to pay him approx $32m plus incentives to match the Bucs offer. Simply put, Belichick decided to clear the $13.5m off the books now and roll with a cheap QB option in 2020 as Brady wasn’t going to be a difference maker with his former cap strapped team and a bunch of low rate weapons. His departure was good for the Pats, Brady, and the Bucs. Win, win, win. Once this became obvious to all, he chose the Bucs for all the aforementioned reasons. 2020 will be amazing theater if it makes it to the field.

  22. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    I was told by someone from Boston that the reason the Patriots got rid of Brady is, he got on the wrong side of Robert Kraft.
    He said Brady criticized Kraft for paying for the whore, and it really hurt Kraft, who felt he treated Brady as a Son.
    Whatever ?
    Just glad we got Brady!

  23. Belligerentbuc Says:

    If Brady wins one more before Bellicheat, you know it was Brady and not Bellicheat who turned around a perrinial loser into a winner.

    Brady > Bellicheat

    I would love to see Patsy fans eat crow… especially if Bellicheat doesn’t win another one. Greatest coach of all time…Brady!

    Go Bucs! By the way all this talk about being the losingest franchise is idiotic…we have a Superbowl. Talk about losingest Browns, Chargers, Bills, Dixie Chicks, Cats, Bungles…and before last year the Iggles. Maybe a couple others I forgot about who don’t have any hardware but have been around decades longer.

    Go BUCS!!!

  24. Iamabuc Says:

    Tua seems like a Marcus Mariota kind of dude….nn.. pass

  25. Howard Cosell Says:

    Glazers should be ashamed but they’re not

  26. stpetebucsfan Says:


    Re your comments about Bonzai…..

    “You’re one of the few on this site who overshadows those who convey thoughts as if English was their second language and hate was their first. Keep up the good work.”

    Agree completely and here’s a tidbit about Bonzai that explains that. He is a writer with several or more digital books. I’ve purchased one and he is an excellent writer. He writes in a genre..Fantasy..that is not my fave but he’s very good at it.

    And yeah…although I disagree with Bonzai on some football opinions…agree on others…he always states them eloquently.

  27. stpetebucsfan Says:


    That was some nice analysis.

  28. Mike Johnson Says:

    And If Brady fails? If he goes down? He still gets his money. Nobody is even mentioning who our backup is or what’s the plan……IF.. My Bucs been losers for so long they only see the beautiful clearing and not..the obstacles or trees. Kinda sad If you ask me.

  29. stpetebucsfan Says:


    Who was our backup last year? Were you gripping just as hard about what happens if JW goes down. Did it upset you that BA made a public and concerted effort to make sure no backup could challenge JW and threaten his fragile ego?

  30. Buczilla Says:

    Cool article and Jordan was right.

  31. Mike Johnson Says:

    Stpetebfan..Nope..Not grippin. Just sayin..Buc fans are so caught up in the excitement. We neglect to realize what happens when or if.. Brady goes down. Whats the fall off? And do those hopes and wins go down drastically. Brady is coming in a bonafide winner. We expect certain things to happen due to his rep. Nobody has even thought of..the disappointment or the probability of it happening. Winners however, have backup plans. Arians better have one.

  32. lambchop Says:


    I’ll take it a step further: If the rumors were true that Brady wanted to go to San Fran, and if San Fran was dumb enough to trade Jimmy GQ back to NE, Brady would be a 49er today.

    The narrative of taking Tampa to the promised land was not Brady’s master plan. It’s the current spin based on how things played out. But, I’m glad it played out the way it did for the Bucs and Tampa Bay.

  33. lambchop Says:

    @Mike Johnson,

    If Brady gets injured, Jameis Winston will be sitting home waiting.

    We’re good. He can come in and implode once again for vet minimum.

  34. stpetebucsfan Says:


    I do not dispute your point. If any NFL starter goes down that team is lucky to have a backup who can avoid embarrassment. I do not think we are exceptional.
    If TB12 goes down it require a large portion of luck to avoid total catostrophe.

  35. Pick6King Says:

    I truly hope we’re not taking advice from a manic depressive. He’s basically Trent Dilfer, with 4 titles as opposed to one. Neither would have won a thing without Hall of Fame defenses.

    Brady will not only make us relevant again, and possibly get a second title, he’ll be able to help select and mentor his successor at QB. His influence could last over a decade. I’ll take that over a turnover machine who thinks losing means he be ballin.

    Go Bucs!!!

  36. westernbuc Says:

    Wow, Beckles made a great point. First time for everything

  37. teacherman777 Says:


    Great story!

    Should be made into an cartoon video!

    We are the Yucs! The faithful fans of the worst team in America.
    From worst to first baby!

    Go Bucs!