Rondé Barber Talks Donovan Smith, O-line, & A Precision Offense

March 19th, 2020

Mixed review

Are the Buccaneers’ tackles good enough to protect Tom Brady?

Bucs icon Rondé Barber was hit with that question on CBS Sports Radio.

Barber said he is unsure whether the Bucs would bring back right tackle Demar Dotson for his 12th season in pewter and red. And on the other side of the offensive line, Barber is hopeful the Brady effect will improve the Bucs’ sixth-year veteran at left tackle.

“Donovan Smith is one of the more talented but frustrating left tackles in football,” Barber said. “Because when he’s good, he’s really good, but he also has some lapses. I think the biggest thing with Tom Brady coming into this offense is the precision has to increase. The ball has to get out faster than it ever has. And that is a tenet of a Bruce Arians offense anyway. I think part of the problem with Jameis in the past is he’s looking for the perfect throw. I think Tom Brady, what he’s always done great, is get the ball out of his hands.

“You hear analysts talk about quarterbacks helping their offensive line. I don’t think a quarterback helps their offensive line more in football than Tom Brady does with his ability to get the ball out of his hand. And of course that helps our running game, which Tampa still has some issues.”

Yes, there’s no question Brady makes better decisions than Jameis Winston throwing the football. However, the official NFL NextGen sensor-driven data from last year reveals Brady and Jameis took the same amount of time from snap to release of the football. So the numbers don’t exactly add up on the getting the ball out of his hand.

Barber is correct on the quick-release nature of Arians’ offense. As Joe has written, when Carson Palmer and Blaine Gabbert were starters for Arians in Arizona, they the NextGen data showed the to be among the fastest triggers in the NFL.

Just for fun, Joe will address another wive’s tale about Brady. Some say he can’t succeed in a throw-first offense. Joe looked up Brady’s recent pass-attempt numbers and his playoff history in that are.

2019 – 38.3 attempts per game, 6th most in the NFL
2018 – 35.6 attempts per game, 12th most in the NFL
2017 – Led the NFL in pass attempts and total yards
2016 – 36.0 attempts per game, 15th-most in the NFL
2015 – 39.0 attempts per game, 6th most in the NFL
**In 41 career playoff games, Brady averages 40 pass attempts per game. Forty!**

74 Responses to “Rondé Barber Talks Donovan Smith, O-line, & A Precision Offense”

  1. stpetebucsfan Says:


    THANKS! You doing a yeoman’s job of trying to dispel some myths and memes that have seemed to grow out of simple fan emotion.

    Putting up statistics like that and pointing out that our OL is nowhere near as bad as people here wish to believe…ranked 7th by guys I realize you don’t respect but still they are simply not that bad at pass pro…running game a different story.

    Brian Baldinger used video to illustrate the twin misconceptions about Brady’s deep ball and his willingness to hang in the pocket to throw it. According to Baldy once Gordon went down it was all on Edelman..imagine the difference..
    Julian Edelman….ME…CG…OJ and CB.

  2. WhiteQBsOverrated Says:

    Oh so now they wanna address o-line and the running game lol. Typical

  3. Nick2 Says:

    We need to get a great back to take the load off him. Something Jameis never had and Brady has seldom had. Brady had great years when Blount was there pounding the rock for him and the play action. I am hoping Johnathan Taylor or another beast of a back like him will be necessary.

  4. Marine Buc Says:

    It’s very simple with Tom Brady. When his back foot hits the turf he is throwing the football – sometimes down field sometimes to a check down option. Tom Brady is also a brilliant with reading defenses and throwing the ball away rather than just tossing it up like a riverboat gambler.

  5. D-Rome Says:

    Tom Brady needs to bring in the offensive line, including all TEs and RBs, into a conference room. When they all sit down, Tom will take his place at the head of the table. He will then put all six Super Bowl rings in front of him, facing all the players. He will then stare at each player at the table until they swear fealty and loyalty to him.

  6. Dave Says:

    you people need a life

  7. PSL Bob Says:

    A good RB can be had in Rd#2. I say if one of the top 4 OL are available at #14, grab em. Otherwise get a stud safety at #14 and then grab several OL in the later rounds and begin grooming them. I was hoping the Bucs could pick up a serviceable replacement for Dotson in FA.

  8. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Todd Gurley released! Get him!!!!!!!

  9. MarineBucsFan Says:

    Rams release Gurley!!

  10. Anonymous Says:

    Gurley released you at least bring him in to check him out and of course ask tom what he thinks lol

  11. MarineBucsFan Says:

    Now I’m interested! Didn’t want to trade for him but signing him as a FA?

  12. Doctor_Berto Says:

    Rams cut Gurley. Sign him on the low low

  13. passthebuc Says:

    Bucs Retain TE Antony Auclair
    Bucs Re-Sign WR Bryant Mitchell

  14. Marine Buc Says:

    I would be fine with a one year prove it deal for Gurley. One year @ $ 4.5 million?

  15. Marine Buc Says:

    Bucs also signed DT Nunez-Roaches… one year deal.

  16. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Bucs re-sign Rakeem Nunez-Roches

  17. 813bucboi Says:

    d.smith will make the PB in 2020!!!!

    you heard it here first!!!!!

    GO BUCS!!!!!

  18. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Give Gurley 3 years. He’s only 25.

  19. catcard202 Says:

    So, What Ronde’ is saying….Is the FO & coaching staff are betting the farm that 43yr old TB12 can make-up for D.Smith’s effort & focus deficiencies…On top of a set of ???’s at RT, reducing QB1 turnovers & making up for a below avg run game???? Am I getting that right???

    Frankly, I will be amazed if the Bucs get to 8-8 w/ TB12 under center, w/o giving TB12 what JW3 rarely had…A stout DEF, competent OL & run game to keep Pass-Rush ears from being pinned back.

  20. MarineBucsFan Says:

    @fellow Marine

    Love the Nunez signing, dude starting playing well last year

  21. Coburn Says:

    The time to throw is the average.. I’ve mentioned this many times . Winston is inconsistent in almost every way. There were sacks where I counted 5 or 6 seconds with Winston. So yes sometimes it’s fast, sometimes it slow .. with Brady he’s kits more consistent with time to throw. All it takes is Winston holding onto it longer a fee times a game to rack up more sacksand pressures

  22. Buc50 Says:

    Well, Gordon and Gurley are on the market. Gurley is a great talent but he’s not healthy. I would probably lean towards Gordon and hope he can get his form back.

  23. JimmyJack Says:

    I’m not sure if the time to throw thing is a myth. I hear announcers say it all the time about guys like Brady and Brees & when you watch them play it defientally passes the eyeball test that they are quicker.

    So I looked up them stats. With Drew Brees his number does bear out that he is quicker. Seems like 2.55 range is an elite level. Rarely did I see anybody below 2.5.

    With Brady his number is close to Jameis but perhaps the difference is that Brady has been in that 2.55 range in some years where Winston never has. Brady’s number has fluctuated between around 2.55 and 2.75…….Winstons number flutcuated between around 2.7 and 2.85.

    The best way to measure the two will likely be this year and what Tom Brady’s number is under Arians who wants everything quicker. I think if Brady hovers around 2.55 we can conclude he does in fact have a faster time to throw then Winston.

    To be honest it all sounds like nonsense to a average Joe football fan. Just freaking win darnit!!

  24. JimmyJack Says:

    We signed Taco!!! Good news. Dude is a quality depth player.

  25. Steven007 Says:

    Gurley released. If he clears waivers he could come as a bargain.

  26. BucfaninMi Says:

    If nothing else, with TB12 on the team, they should get some good calls as far as flags go!

  27. Zwak Says:

    D.Smith will make the PB? You might have the Virus Sir..

  28. Jean Lafitte Says:

    Waste of money signing Gurley, especially now that getting their physicals is difficult. Something I’m sure Gurley is happy about with two very arthritic knees.

  29. BucfaninMi Says:

    @ jimmyjack Taco Charlton?

  30. The Coroner Says:

    Does “really good….but has some lapses” just sugar coating lazy?

  31. Jmarkbuc Says:

    “part of the problem with Jameis in the past is he’s looking for the perfect throw. ”

    If that’s the case…JW failed miserably.

  32. crasey Says:

    Better decisions always = better results + the OL never knew where JW was going to be behind them.

  33. MarineBucsFan Says:

    Who’s your source on Taco Charlton, can’t find it anywhere? Hope it’s true!!

  34. Jonathan Limpchimpi Says:

    Get Rondè in One Buc Building as an executive type. The guy is great…

  35. BucfaninMi Says:

    Can’t find anything other than he was released

  36. RSJCheapSeats Says:

    The Pats have had a pass-first offense since 2007.

    Anyone remotely aware of the Pats know this.

  37. JimmyJack Says:

    BucsganinMI……Was referring to Marines comment. We signed Nunez Roche’s back.

    His nickname is also Taco.

  38. MarineBucsFan Says:

    Oh okay got it. I thought u were talking about Taco Charlton too lol

  39. Kgh4life Says:

    D. Smith isn’t a horrible left tackle he’s just average, but with the kind of money the Bucs are paying him, he needs to be above average. What does help the oline however, is the quick release and quick decision making Brady brings to the offense.

  40. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    Hahahaha, that is how starved we are for “the latest”.

    Poor JimmyJack makes an innocent reference to Nunez Roche, and HALF of us are scrambling to google… to find out “Did we get Taco Charlton???”… “did we get Taco Charlton???” LOL

  41. LazyMoak Says:

    Coach Sean Payton first NFL member to test positive for the coronavirus

  42. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    How about “Tacko” Fall? (NBA) — Can you imagine just putting him in, against attempted FG and PAT’s?

    He is 7’6!!

  43. JimmyJack Says:

    Who the hell is Taco Charlton anyways? hahahaha

  44. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Touche’

  45. BucfaninMi Says:

    Well, another Taco is better than 1. He was released and I read an article that has TB as 1 of 5 landing spots. So it does have legs. He is a beast.

  46. Tampa Bay Demon Says:


    As much as we are trying to escape it, brothers & sisters, and just try to have a little bit of fun…. it just keeps coming back.

    Saints HC, SEAN FRIKKING PAYTON…… tests positive.

  47. catcard202 Says:

    Just assume every single person will eventually catch this thing…No one is safe.

  48. DoooshLaRue Says:

    Nunez is NACHO not Taco!

  49. Petty Officer Buc Says:

    WhiteQBsOverrated huh? So I guess that’s allowed? An alt for NDOG or DB55?

  50. AlabamaBucsFan Says:

    What is not factored with NextGen sensor-driven data; Brady did not have the same level of talent for WR or TE as the Bucs did. He often threw to his 3rd and 4th option, most being RB.

  51. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Anddddd….Sean Payton is doing GREAT! So, what is the excuse now for the Bucs not making any sort of announcement?

  52. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Taco Charlton you say? I think that is a new restaurant here in San Antonio.

  53. Ghost of Darrell Henderson Says:

    Looks like with Gurley being released 2020 will be the year of Darrell Henderson!

  54. JimmyJack Says:

    Doosh. Thanks for the correction…..ooops

  55. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    Doosh… and then there is that, lmao.
    I was right there with ya JimmyJack.
    Not letting you fall on this grenade alone, hahahaha

  56. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    Is there a reason I am suddenly in moderation?
    Have never been before.

  57. DoooshLaRue Says:

    At least you didn’t call him Chalupa.

  58. killfish86 Says:

    Why we hearing about Bucs signings in the discussion board? Where’s all the free agent articles? Signings, targets, potential targets….

  59. Marine Buc Says:

    I love our free agent signings so far. Tom Brady, JPP, Shaq Barrett, Auclair, Hudson, B. Mitchell, Nunez- Roaches.

    So far so good.

    Lots of solid RBs floating around right now and available via the draft. Same can be said for WRs.

    We are going to have a ton of offensive weapons this year for TB.

  60. Bucco bruce Says:

    pretty much rather have Gordon then gurlyI believe gurly has lost something Gordon was just out of shape.Tampaaaaaaa

  61. Alvin Scissors Harper Says:

    Jeez, Gurley was great, before he was hurt in college and hurt in the pros. He’s damaged goods. If you want a vet, it should be Gordon, but I want an RB, maybe Cam Akers, in the 3rd round. OL in the 1st, QB in the 2nd, RB in the 3rd.

  62. Ghost of Darrell Henderson Says:

    Gurley’s knees are arthritic, you can cure arthritis with diet.

  63. westernbuc Says:

    Our offensive line and our weapons are better than what Brady had to work with last season. If we get a guy that can run and catch out the backfield, and shore up our RT, this could be a 12 win team

  64. Matt Says:

    I’ll bet Clay Matthews comes to town 💪💪 and I hope so because this is a very weak draft for pash rushers. Can you imagine a sub package 3-4 vea suh jpp barrett white David williams?! Bowles will be giddy like a kid in a candy store all summer when Matthews signs.

    Once Brady signs there will be a domino effect of signings to the likes of which we have never seen. Hopefully we get some young guys on prove it deals who ball out and leave so we are awarded 2-4 compensatory picks in the 3-4 rounds. This is how the Ravens and Patriots have built quality depth for the last decade. We’re going to need to hit on these guys because we’ve got to pay Godwin and Shaq big money here soon and we just don’t have the cap space.

  65. Bucco bruce Says:

    Another reason for Brady to come here is he’s played against Todd bowles defense that says a lot for Todd bowles!

  66. JimbobBucsFan Says:

    It would be even worse to call him Tamale! 🙂

  67. cmurda Says:

    What Marine Buc said! GO ARMY! But still, what he said!

  68. SB Says:

    Tom Brady………….wait for it…………”America’s Quarterback”!!!!!

  69. David Says:

    And all fairness, Brady typically releases the ball extremely fast. Last year the offense of the patriots sucked. He had no receivers, he couldn’t get rid of the ball quickly.

  70. Greg Says:

    Brady delivers the ball to the target with precision and that is going to make all the difference in the YAC. JW has a great arm but consistently he could not put it where the receivers could run in stride. Not to mention the errant oskies. I am super excited about the talent we have a receiver doing what they do best with the ball in their hands!

  71. BringBucsBack Says:

    “41 career playoff games”!?!? Holy cow! That is not a Bucs life. Just wow!

  72. REDZONE BA Fan Says:

    TB12 quick-release and precision decision-making, will cover up ANY O-Line deficiencies, and make an average O-Line, look better than they are, which is why players want to be on his team. Tom is QB SAVANT!

    JW does not have quick release. JW indecision in Bucs passing game, might have been based on no WR separation for designed plays (or just JW too long to making decisions.) Debatable.

    YET – JW’s scrambling and running ability for first downs, covered up a lot of PAST O-Line issues/sins.

    BA/LF will adjust offense – to Tom’s preference. I hope so. For Tom’s health.

    Long DIG receiver play calling, could result in our new QB getting hammered. If Licht drafts a decent RB, we are good to go. Tom needs play-action. (As JW needed, too – and never had the benefit of any decent RB)

    Looking back on how Tom Terrific leveraged Randy Moss > Wow! Tom should set NEW RECORDS with ME13 & Godwin/ and OJ, for passing yards and TDs. (I expect Cam Brate to be released/traded).

    Tom Terrific will make our D better! D knows their heroic efforts will not be wasted on pick-6 or other INTs.

    Schedule is hard – BUT — Fans should demand and expect 11 wins, Division Title. and Bucs being in SB!

    The “Wild Card” is the Bucs O-line – keeping Tom Terrific – healthy. That is on you, Jason Licht. We Need real talent on O-Line, RB, and another key receiver. Bowles has our D teed up.

    JMHO….got my popcorn going….

  73. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Who is ever satisfied with just one Taco?

  74. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    SB Says:
    March 19th, 2020 at 9:26 pm
    “Tom Brady………….wait for it…………”America’s Quarterback”!!!!! ”

    If you’ve been here long enough, you’d know Joe doesn’t use the same monikers on different players.

    Given Brady’s age and production, I think ‘The Immortal Tom Brady’ fits.