Clashing Perspectives On The Offensive Line
March 23rd, 2020
Opinions vary on what Tom Brady might expect to endure behind the Tampa Bay offensive line.
Even former Bucs quarterbacks have different perspectives.
In the video below, you’ll see ex-Bucs QB Chris Simms say he saw a 2019 Brady who was “reluctant to hold on to the ball and take those shots,” the kind typically endured by Bucco Bruce Arians quarterbacks.
Simms believes over-the-middle quick Patriots throws to Julian Edelman and Wes Welker are the kinds of passes lacking in the Arians offense. So Simms expects Arians to say to Brady, “teach me how you did this all these years in New England.”
Of course, a shortened offseason means the Bucs from top to bottom will have less time to get in sync.
Assigned — and paid — to break down film on every quarterback during football season for Pro Football Focus, ex-Bucs QB Bruce Gradkowski is very confident in the methodology of the PFF Tribe and spoke about it recently on SiriusXM NFL Radio. Gradkowski told readers that The Tribe ranked the Bucs O-line three positions better than the Patriots’, so Brady should expect better protection than he’s used to.
If Gradkowski is accurate, combined with Brady’s better in-game recognition and quicker release than Jameis Winston, amazing things should be happening to the Bucs offense this season.
March 23rd, 2020 at 12:10 pm
Jameis is way better than Brady today. Now we have to build special accommodations and set us back
March 23rd, 2020 at 12:16 pm
Oh poor, sad little Lamarcus of the bleeding butt, Nuthuggers Brigade.
It’s gonna be alright baby.
Tom won’t be running into the waiting DL’s arms like the Soiled Messiah did.
It’s not gonna be the “entertaining” clown show your breed likes but the rest of us CLUELESS fans will certainly enjoy WINNING for a change.
March 23rd, 2020 at 12:19 pm
LaMarcus — lol yeah Winston is doing so great on the open market… Paid NFL professional scounts, Gm’s, coaches are lined up out the door to sign Winston because he is so great…
March 23rd, 2020 at 12:20 pm
Brady’s quick release & accuracy will improve his Olne’s chances of success….
Jameis held onto the ball too long…..waiting for receivers to get open instead of throwing them open……we will have significantly more YAC with Brady.
Jameis simply didn’t read defenses well or see the field.
March 23rd, 2020 at 12:20 pm
You have to understand the psyche of an offensive lineman. It gets insanely old to get blamed for a QB taking sacks. It gets insanely old giving good protection and watching your QB throw stupid picks. It gets even more insanely old having to constantly pass block because your QB puts you behind the sticks and the scoreboard.
Jameis didn’t do those guys any favors. Offensive linemen want to run block. Offensive linemen want to stay on schedule and move the sticks because it makes defensive linemen more hesitant to get in an all out pass rush mentality.
Brady moves the sticks. They will love blocking for him, and suddenly they won’t be constantly sh!t on by the local pen and mic club.
Right now they are one man short of potentially being a pretty damn good O-line. Let’s see what the draft yields before we look to a falling sky.
March 23rd, 2020 at 12:21 pm
LaMarcus – That is truly a funny take. Jaymiss is better than the GOAT? Not today, not ever, and not on sundays.
Did the CoronaVirus eat away your frontal cortex?
March 23rd, 2020 at 12:21 pm
Society has to make accomodations for people like LaMarcus, yet here we are.
March 23rd, 2020 at 12:28 pm
I wonder …
We buy two years. To put us behind 10 yrs.
Celebrate hard this year and next.
This draft is vital for the existence of the Bucs future.
March 23rd, 2020 at 12:34 pm
Adrnagy set us back 10 years? Sorry to burst your bubble, but Winston was leading us to nowhere other than mediocrity. Now start railing about our kicker…
March 23rd, 2020 at 12:34 pm
Yep he got hit cause he held the ball to long. Right…
https://amp.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/d1gw58/highlight_jameis_winston_gives_nick_bosa_his/
March 23rd, 2020 at 12:35 pm
Spot on Gotbucs. Our Oline is way better than NE. If you oline haters don’t think a smart, accurate and timely delivered ball by our QB will make the line and RB better, you are a lost cause and not worth listening to.
In BA I Trust!
March 23rd, 2020 at 12:39 pm
Bro Lemarcus?! What are you smoking and where did you get it?!? If that’s what it takes to enjoy the last 5 years of Jameis Winston send me to your leader so I can enjoy the blind bliss that you have been as a Bucs Fan! Lmao
March 23rd, 2020 at 12:39 pm
Ardnagy – what exactly is it that we gave up to get Brady?
Draft picks like we gave up for Keyshawn and Gruden?
Nope!
Unreasonable cap dollars for a QB?
Nope!
Trade away existing talent to get a starting QB?
Nope!
You are clearly blinded by the potential of JW (which has not garnered anything but fantasy stats). So much so that you say silly things not based in fact whatsoever.
In BA I Trust!
March 23rd, 2020 at 12:41 pm
They were an effective pass blocking line last season. They just struggled at run blocking, but that’s what you get from two tackles on the edges that have trouble bending their knees and driving through their blocks. Youth at the position will have their growing pains but the run game should get better as a result.
March 23rd, 2020 at 12:42 pm
Nobody is talking about Jameis here …. obviously your hate for him takes over you’re rotten brain.
March 23rd, 2020 at 12:49 pm
Look! I LOVED JW! But the dude shoulda been named Can’t Get Right cause for all his talent and all his charisma, he couldn’t fix his main problem which was decision making. I’ve never seen a QB (maybe player period) that wanted to WIN more in a game than Jameis, but he doesn’t know how to do that at this level (yet). Maybe he gets it together, maybe he doesn’t, odds are on him not doing so as very few do. But man y’all gotta stop this Tom Brady bashing cause it makes you just look and sound dumb as nuts! Tom Brady had way less talent around him last year, CLEARLY chose our orginaztion over others including his 20 year tenured PATs, and not for money has he coulda asked for a whole lot more and prbly got it. He came to Tampa for the pursuit of MORE CHAMPIONSHIPS for his legacy and he found our team ideal for his goal to do so. It’s pretty crazy to think that a situation that Jameis squandered was the ideal situation hand picked by the best QB to EVER play the game.. that last sentence is pretty telling, reread it Brady Hatters till it really sinks in and then tell me you’re next Jameis excuse, cause I’ve said them all before and am tired of them all…
March 23rd, 2020 at 12:54 pm
The Bucs have a Wes Welker type…Cameron Brate.
March 23rd, 2020 at 12:56 pm
@BuucccNASTY
He sure fixed his other issues. Whose to say another year would not have led to him fixing the turnover issue?
I would say letting him get away was a mistake…but…Tom Brady.
March 23rd, 2020 at 12:56 pm
Our passing oline was ranked in the middle but bad in the run
game. Jameis was near the most time in the pocket and threw for +5,000 yards. Jedrick Wills in the first and Dobbins in the second would be damn fine by me.
March 23rd, 2020 at 12:58 pm
I think Arians will still emphasize the long ball by making it the number 1 in the progression of receivers to look for.
The good thing about Brady is in how quickly he can read those progressions. If the long play looks to be open he will take it, but most of those plays have very tight windows. He will dump it to someone else if it looks too tight.
With Godwin’s YAC, it should still come up with the approximately the same amount of yardage.
It might also get some playable balls into the hands of OJ and Brate. It could be a great thing.
March 23rd, 2020 at 1:11 pm
Winston better than Brady 🤣😂
March 23rd, 2020 at 1:12 pm
So Ard – so just being obstinate is your game. Explain the 10 year setback? Or do facts not matter in your world? Your like a child stomping your feet on a playground for no reason.
In BA I Trust!
March 23rd, 2020 at 1:14 pm
Some of u guys are unbelievable. In what world did getting Brady set us back?
Did we give up 3 numbers 1 😂 signing Winston to 3o mill a year is what would’ve set us back b honest
March 23rd, 2020 at 1:15 pm
Reading his progressions and making the smart play?
That’s not entertaining at all.
Wouldn’t you rather have a QB with nervous feet, bad mechanics and little hands trying to scramble around?
So many more entertaining options……
He could fumble
He could run into a sack
He could float a wounded duck interception
…… but sadly Nuthuggers, we are stuck with a boring QB now.
March 23rd, 2020 at 1:26 pm
I’ll never understand grown men calling another man names over an opinion, some of y’all need to grow up and get life
March 23rd, 2020 at 1:39 pm
Move on Winstonites its over. Its a new era in TB.
March 23rd, 2020 at 1:45 pm
Brate and Howard (especially Brate) are going to get much more attention in 2020. Mike Evans and Chris Godwin are not jets down the sideline guys either. They are perfect for Tom Brady accuracy.
March 23rd, 2020 at 1:51 pm
SO TIRED OF THE O-LINE HATE!
Enough of this hate from different fans, etc. (mostly Jameis lovers) about how our OL is so bad and how Brady will get killed.
How does Jameis throw for over 5,000+ yards, many deep air yards, yet somehow the OFFENSIVE LINE GETS ZERO CREDIT???
Winston, or any QB, doesn’t throw for 5K+ yards unless the OL does a decent job of Pass Protection.
People act like if our OL wasn’t so bad that Jameis would have thrown for over 10,000+ yards. Because that’s exactly what people are insinuating when they claim the OL played poorly.
Your QB gets sacked and hit more when he spends more time in the pocket; either waiting for deeper routes to develop or if the QB opts to hold onto the ball more. Period.
PROPS TO OUR 5K+ PASSING YARD PRODUCING OFFENSIVE LINE!
March 23rd, 2020 at 2:00 pm
“Jameis is way better than Brady today.”
i needed a laugh as the world burns. bwahahahahaha
March 23rd, 2020 at 2:02 pm
Lamarcus is just baiting. At least Ndog sometimes posts on things other than Jameis. How can any Bucs fan not embrace the historic possibilities of Brady leading this team to SB immortality? Jameis will get another chance eventually but only after teams and coaches hear a whole bunch of humble pie so they can forget that incredibly ill-advised “check your sheet” comment to end the season.
March 23rd, 2020 at 2:03 pm
Dave,
As usual, your posts are almost as embarrassing as you are.
March 23rd, 2020 at 2:24 pm
Why didn’t you say the “Tribe” ranked the Bucs number 7 overall as Gradkowski said?
March 23rd, 2020 at 2:36 pm
Baiting? Yall trying to bait me until believeling in Brady.
I dont wanna hear none of you guys crying and blaming when we lose again.
March 23rd, 2020 at 2:38 pm
Ivan I agree. I think the recycled stigma that Joe puts on fans is true. They will always blame the OL and that other thing(play calling I think). Rings true here.
Now to be fair we are not good at runblocking. We are below average. So there is some truth to that part in my opinion. But when you can passblock for a 5K offense I’ll certainly take it and not berate the OL as a whole.
Another thing about the runblocking that virtually goes completely ignored by fans is how bad our TEs are in runblocking. They were a big part of the problem…….Reminds me how our LBs basically got free passes yearly for awful coverage while our secondary took all the blame(which they were bad no doubt).
And as much as I like Bryon as a play caller I will admitt we did not look very creative in our run designs. Would like to see Improvement this year.
Our OL does need to get better at runblocking no doubt………But just like blaming just one person only for each INT or just one player for a loss….it’s much more comicated then that.
That said scapegoating is a national past time for sports fans.
March 23rd, 2020 at 2:43 pm
Lamarcus……You said that Winston is way better then Brady. One a perrinal winner owning 6 rings…..the other being speculated as being a backup next year.
This is very simple buddy. You lose the argument. This tater was called 30 seconds into Round 1. This is as no doubt of a clear loss as there has ever been.
March 23rd, 2020 at 2:43 pm
BIG difference in offenses that feature a 3 STEP drop versus a 7 STEP drop.
Cannot make a “quick” throw in this offense without FUNDAMENTAL changes to the CORE of this offense. BA’s offense is a look deep then short opposite of what Brady is used.
How can ANY QB make a quick read and throw when there will be another read by both QB and WR at the top of the route?
Some “fans” here keep spewing Winston hatred comments and don’t even understand what the point of this article is.
March 23rd, 2020 at 2:46 pm
Our O-line was very solid last year in pass pro IMO. They were a big part of the reason we had such prolific passing #’s.
Run blocking not so much but we weren’t THAT bad. I think it was moreso Peyton Barber and a lack of big plays.
Rojo averaged 4.2 YPC and the league average was 4.3 YPC. If he was elite in pass pro / catching he’d be a fine #1.
I want the LSU RB in this draft now after watching some tape. Dude is just super efficient and has a perfect 3 down skill set and could immediately be a do-it-all guy.
A great RT + RB away from being basically stacked everywhere on offense.
March 23rd, 2020 at 3:00 pm
if we go 6-10 there will be blood
GM, Coach & QB all gone
March 23rd, 2020 at 3:03 pm
TexBuc and LaMarcus still unable to sleep at night over the Bucs making Jameis walk the plank.
March 23rd, 2020 at 3:14 pm
Jameis is better than Brady who is apparently 42-43 years old
Have some common sense ppl. then yall rag on JW pick 6s Well Brady last 2 games ended with pick 6s talk about derailing your team
March 23rd, 2020 at 3:32 pm
Lamarcus… just stop.
March 23rd, 2020 at 3:40 pm
I’m pissed we let JW go and I’m not stopping. I will type my displeasure and we gonna pay for this.
Now Lamar Jackson and friends are making mockery out of us or Florida ppl
March 23rd, 2020 at 3:44 pm
Lazarus- If you mean pay by winning more games and making the playoffs. Then yes we will pay dearly.
March 23rd, 2020 at 3:45 pm
LordC
Exactly! An RT and an RB away…provided of course we resign Suh.
March 23rd, 2020 at 3:47 pm
^ What the hell does Lamar Jackson have to do with any of this, lol?
March 23rd, 2020 at 3:49 pm
Lamarcus
Doubt that you’re bright enough to grasp this advice. Whenever debating do NOT argue back and forth from the general to the specific and vice versa.
lE One or two ints…no matter how horrid do not compare with 30!!!
One win is not 12….one loss is not 10…pick one…either you believe Brady turns the ball over as much and badly as JW or you do not. Cherry picking any single game or stat doesn’t prove anything.
March 23rd, 2020 at 3:54 pm
Delusional
Nuthugger
Syndrome
Check your sheet and……..Please seek help.
March 23rd, 2020 at 4:08 pm
if we were so far off, brady wouldve just went to the chargers…..lol….
they offered 30mil….they have bosa and ingram…they have derwin james….they have pouncy….they have hunter henry…they have k.allen, m.williams….all they were missing was a QB that didnt throw a ton of picks….
why would brady pick the bucs over a team that was so loaded, in the state he’s from, in the city his production business is, that offered the same amount of money?
because we are 1 QB away from making the playoffs!!!!!
GO BUCS!!!!!
March 23rd, 2020 at 4:11 pm
ndog lamarcus adrnagy
you 3 clowns need to go to walmart and buy some 3 things:
-preparation H
-football for dummies
-puppy pads
GO BUCS!!!!!
March 23rd, 2020 at 4:21 pm
So YET AGAIN 813 you add nothing to the conversation just worthless drivel.
March 23rd, 2020 at 4:26 pm
Lamarcus you already lost the argument before it ever started. You should consider stopping.
March 23rd, 2020 at 4:45 pm
Ivan
What have I stated that is false or incorrect??
March 23rd, 2020 at 5:08 pm
@gotbbucs YOU NAILED IT!!
But I still think we need to be aggressive about drafting OT in round 1, and yes I do mean we try to move up, within reason. I would give draft pick(s) from future years, not our current year, and no current players.
March 23rd, 2020 at 5:14 pm
With the coronavirus as it is and it might just get worse the season will may be shortened jameis Winston at this point would not be a bad backup they might even help each other out
March 23rd, 2020 at 5:15 pm
ndog
i added FACTS….LMAO…
we were a QB away from the playoffs last year and you need some puppy pads….lol…
JW IS A BUST!!!(another cold hard fact)….
get over it…
GO BUCS!!!!!
March 24th, 2020 at 12:28 am
Jameis is not on the Bucs. Move on clowns. 🤡
March 24th, 2020 at 1:27 am
LaMarcus i told you awhile back to just GTFOH already! You ARE NOT A BUCS FAN!
Your a Winston fan.
March 24th, 2020 at 1:33 am
Winston is so good, he’s not even signed yet! BOOM to all you Winston haters!
March 24th, 2020 at 7:49 am
What is lost on some is the future. Who would co-operate more with an understudy drafted qb, knowing they would be the qb of the future. Winston would never go for the Bucs drafting an eventual replacement. Brady may even help them decide who to select. Sure Brady wants to play two more years. But, Jameis cancel Bucs future until Arians was long gone and a new HC search was turning over daredevils to try to work with him.
March 24th, 2020 at 7:51 am
Too bad XFL shut down. One less option for Famous Jameis