Carl Nassib … Back To The Browns?
February 16th, 2020
Yes, general manager Jason Licht struck gold when he pounced on 2019 Bucs team captain Carl Nassib after the Browns cut the DE/LB following the 2018 preseason.
Nassib, however, will be an unrestricted free agent in a month and the Bucs might be wishing they had locked him up on the cheap before the 2019 season.
The former Browns third-round pick is no superstar, but Nassib has two seasons of quality and consistent work in Tampa under his belt. He’d be a No. 2 or No. 3 edge rusher on a lot of teams around the NFL.
Allegedly, the Bucs want to keep their whole defense together, but reality says that won’t happen.
Time management will be crucial for Licht to manage with Arians. Do you give Jason Pierre-Paul a hard deadline of, say, two days before the free agency dinner bell rings to sign a deal, so the team can re-sign Nassib before both hit the market?
Browns beat writer Terry Pluto of Cleveland.com dove into the Browns’ desire to upgrade their defensive line, especially considering Olivier Vernon has proven to be injury prone.
Pluto likes the looks of a Nassib return.
A possible free agent for the Browns at defensive end? How about Carl Nassib? Yes, the same Carl Nassib who was a third-round Browns pick in 2016. The same Carl Nassib cut by Dorsey at the start of the 2018 season. And the same Carl Nassib who has 12.5 sacks in the last two seasons playing 50 percent of the snaps for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Nassib was a victim of Dorsey’s purge. He would have helped the Browns the last two years and done it on a cheap rookie contract. I hope Berry doesn’t fall into the same trap of quickly dumping the previous regime’s draft picks without giving them serious consideration.
What’s it going to take to sign Nassib? Probably in the neighborhood of $7.5 million per year with a couple of years guaranteed. Heck, in 2017, Will Gholston locked down about $14 million guaranteed, and he couldn’t rush the passer!
Licht might end up deciding between paying Nassib and Suh, or just Jason Pierre Paul. Joe writes that assuming the Bucs want to add a significant piece to their defensive backfield in free agency.
February 16th, 2020 at 9:07 am
He stands a better chance of sniffing the postseason in Cleveland than he does with the Glazer BA circus
February 16th, 2020 at 9:10 am
Go with youth….so Nassib over Suh…and I do like what Suh means to the team as well as his play…all depends on JPP and Suh’s demands
February 16th, 2020 at 9:28 am
Nassib will sign elsewhere, and Anthony Nelson will take his reps, IMHO.
February 16th, 2020 at 9:34 am
Altered how CLUELESS can you be? These players/positions have nothing to do with one another. Daily you provide a post that could qualify as a CLUELESS of the day post. That should be a new feature of this site, but then again it would be hard to choose with all the options.
February 16th, 2020 at 9:43 am
Npooch…the article is about Nassib , the DL and cap allocation….here is a clue for you Jameis is as Jameis does….followed by the quote attributed to Albert Einstein…wonder what your next screen name will be or will you follow your boy Jamyth to his next town…this article is also about not overpaying….and unless Jamyth signs for Maritoa type money the Bucs are shelling out too many bucks…MoveOn.Bucs !
February 16th, 2020 at 9:58 am
Nassib is a glue guy, he does the dirty work and can play the run and pass. Hopefully hes our first OLB coming off the bench this year.
February 16th, 2020 at 10:02 am
Nassib didn’t do squat this season.
February 16th, 2020 at 10:10 am
“Nassib will sign elsewhere, and Anthony Nelson will take his reps, IMHO.”
I’ll go one further, The Bucs need to lock up JPP, and then Shaq. Suh will have to go, regrettably, but can be replaced with Javon Kinlaw.
The Bucs will have to franchise Jaboo.
February 16th, 2020 at 10:13 am
Keep the DL intact. With Nassib being the last consideration after locking up the rest. We need to sign Nunez Roaches and Beau Allen as backups too.
February 16th, 2020 at 10:16 am
I hoped Nelson could take nassib’s place so they wouldn’t have to pay nassib but I think the talent between the two is a huge gap. Would love for the Bucs to sign them all but I just don’t think that can happen. I think shaq and JPP are the top two to sign and then nassib after that. It’s be cool if suh could give a little discount but he won’t (and I understand). Would love to draft an interior d line in the first or second but who knows with Licht. He’d probably use it on a cb 🤦🏻♂️
February 16th, 2020 at 10:31 am
If we keep JPP and Shaq I’m fine losing Nassib. I like what I saw from Anthony Nelson last year. If he can stay healthy he will be just as good.
February 16th, 2020 at 10:43 am
Nassib is considered “sticking gold”!!!!!!!!!!!! No wonder this team goes nowhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 16th, 2020 at 10:55 am
Nassib is replaceable. Good player but not a game wrecker like Shaq or JPP. I agree with the posters who say Nelson will probably take his spot.
February 16th, 2020 at 11:24 am
I dont know why but I truly feel like the whole line wants to stick together and might take a little less to stay. They were having too much fun and doing so good towards the end of the season so maybe the see something special. They all love Todd Bowles and if shaq is willing to take a discount I wouldn’t be surprised if the rest would too.
February 16th, 2020 at 11:34 am
AlteredEgo Says
“Go with youth….so Nassib over Suh…”
It’s a valid suggestion. Massib should have priority over Suh in regard to on field production. In games started, Nassib was on pace for 10+ both years. He could well turn out to be the heir to JPP.
Suh, on the other hand, is a run stuffer. Period. We can get big run stuffers pretty easily. His leadership would be missed, but if I had to choose between Nassib and Suh, I would pick Nassib.
February 16th, 2020 at 11:34 am
Bold statement that Nassib would be a number 2 or 3 edge rusher on a lot of teams in the NFL. If he leaves, we will see.
I like that I have seen him working out in South Tampa early this offseason. He is clearly a pro (i.e. both keeping his body in shape and ready to cash out maybe the one and only time he can in his career).
February 16th, 2020 at 11:39 am
Wesley Says
“Nassib didn’t do squat this season.”
Nassib
• 2018: 9 starts, 6.5 sacks, 2 forced fumbles
• 2019: 8 starts, 6 sacks, 1 forced fumble
Both years he was on pace for 10+ sacks, buddy.
February 16th, 2020 at 11:44 am
I think this really hinges on what they do at QB. If you have a shot at Brady and he wants 35 million you give it to him an Nassib goes somewhere else. If you can get Rivers or Dalton or Bridgewater in the 20 million or less range there will be some money left over.
February 16th, 2020 at 11:46 am
Wesley= uneducated fan
February 16th, 2020 at 11:47 am
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 16th, 2020 at 11:48 am
Tier 1 – Must sign: Shaq, JPP
Tier 2 – Should sign, but $ could limit – Suh, Nassib
Tier 3 – Only sign if you get a discount – Allen
Tier 4 – Sign for about the same – Acho, Nunez-Rochos
Not a FA, but need to consider if you want to keep him at $4.75M – Gholston
February 16th, 2020 at 11:58 am
I’m convinced that some Bucs’ fans don’t have a clue what they were looking at last year. Carl Nassib is a classic example of that. For starters, carl got 630 defensive snaps during the season (56%) in 14 games (8 starts). In those 14 games he got 6 sacks, 11 QB Hits, 8 TFLs, 1 FF & 34 tackles. He was a KEY rotational player IOW.
So what’s that level of productivity worth in today’s NFL? Undoubtedly it depends on what team you’re talking about (Carl would probably be more valuable to Cleveland than he would be to San Fran for instance, because the latter already has some pretty good pass rushers). But IMO the Bucs are a LOT closer to being Cleveland in that scenario than they are being San Fran … we NEED key rotational guys like Nassib. DE Anthony Nelson missed 6 games last year due to a hamstring injury & only got 153 defensive snaps (14%). His productivity ? 0 sacks, 0 QB Hits, 0 TFLs, 1 FF & 8 tackles. I’d call that a rather uneventful rookie season. And I surely wouldn’t count on him replacing Carl’s productivity in 2020.
Bottom line: re-sign Nassib; he’s earned it. Around $7 mil a year on a 3-4 year contract with 2 years guaranteed SHOULD do it.
And if we don’t do everything we can to re-sign Ndamukong Suh, we’re damned fools. Suh is a BEAST, and we need all the BEASTS that we can get on this DLine (too many forget that Allen & Nunez-Roches are ALSO UFAs right now). I’m hoping that Suh doesn’t decide to retire & that the Bucs are willing to pay him $10 mil a year for 2 years, with BOTH of them guaranteed. He’s the engine to this DLine, he’s THAT good, and he deserves every penny of what we pay him.
February 16th, 2020 at 12:17 pm
WhatTheBuc … Paying Brady … or ANY QB … $35 mil a year is a prescription for yet another losing season before we even play the first game. That would require us paying our OFFENSE roughly $120 mil in 2020 (my estimate) assuming that we DON’T re-sign Perriman but do sign a decent backup QB ($4 mil) for when Brady gets creamed.
That’s leave about $75-$80 mil for the defense & about $4 mil for S/TS. That’s wholly inadequate to keep this defense together (IMO that’ll cost $90-$95 mil). Bottom line: IF you expect a Top-15 defense in 2020, you’d better be willing to pay for it. $120 for an OFFENSE & $80 mil for a DEFENSE shows lousy BALANCE in terms of priorities.
February 16th, 2020 at 12:29 pm
I agree with most above (or at least those who are serious and not using this site as their insanity debut) we should try to keep as many of those DLINE as possible. JPP, Shaq, Suh, and Nassib were fun to watch last year and they seemed to be a good compliment to one another. If I were the boss that’s were I would make my biggest investment. Additionally I would look for back-up in the Draft. Finally I don’t think Nassib would be willing to go back to Cleveland.
February 16th, 2020 at 12:49 pm
“Yes, general manager Jason Licht struck gold when he pounced on 2019 Bucs team captain Carl Nassib after the Browns cut the DE/LB following the 2018 preseason.”
I know at least one of the Joe’s is not big on “leadership” but I think he’s wrong. But Nassib has it, and he backs it up. Yeah, JPP would have killed it as team captain when Nassib stepped in and earned it. But he did it, played well in all that, and needs to be back. ALL of these D guys need to be back. I was very skeptical on Suh at first. We saw Baker, Haynesworth, etc. Suh did not lead, and he knows that, but supported the leader, and was actually a good team player. Something I heard today that I’ve heard many times before, but it makes sense: Don’t fix it if it isn’t broken. Bring this D back. All of them.
February 16th, 2020 at 12:53 pm
When U can’t draft these are the games u play
Should have given him a raise this last year so it wouldn’t go against the cap so much the next two years. The guy does have some game
February 16th, 2020 at 12:56 pm
^^^^Can Carl step up again and fade to being a supporter of JPP as the clear team captain? Pay him at something less than premier? Oh, absolutely. And, Suh may not get what he wants, but seeing him last year he actually seemed happy, and he may come back for a less as a finale. He mentored our stud DT well. While I liked GMC it is clear moving on from him was the right move.
February 16th, 2020 at 12:58 pm
@Destin…basically had NO cap last year. so couldn’t really do anything. Drove me crazy though to watch Joe write that he’d be gone next year. Doesn’t have to be.
February 16th, 2020 at 1:48 pm
Anthony Nelson is Carl Nassib minus the heavy CAP hit. Keep Suh and JPP. That’s what I’d do.
February 16th, 2020 at 4:32 pm
We need to retain Nassib. The defense actually suffered against the run in the games he was out. Nassib is a very valuable rotational guy. Would hate to lose him
February 16th, 2020 at 5:51 pm
@Defense…at 12:17 …is an obtuse moron.
These long diatribes..of tired nonsense. It ends up in …
Blah, ba blah, ba blah. Another conservative, granular moron mired in nonstop mediocrity…
Yup.
February 17th, 2020 at 12:15 am
^ I had to google like 7 words just to see what the heck he was saying. I still don’t fully understand what he said 🤦🏻♂️
February 17th, 2020 at 3:11 am
carl nassib…aka “the arabian knight”…
he’s a keeper…
don’t forget he also brings a high iq to that d-line as well
February 17th, 2020 at 3:14 am
this d is really just starting to come together…some continuity and retaining the whole gang could be just the right recipe for the playoffs…
#FACTS
February 17th, 2020 at 8:50 am
Nassib is definitely worth keeping of the $$$ is there. But JPP, Barrett and Suh need to be signed first.
Continuity is important, but limited by the cap.
February 17th, 2020 at 8:52 am
Nassib & Suh play completely different positions. Non Sequitur.
February 17th, 2020 at 11:56 am
Defense Rules, thank you for putting the numbers and facts for the clueless masses to ponder. Hopefully some of them, at least, are intelligent enough to get it. Besides the numbers, which should be enough, imo you just don’t let a guy (that isn’t even a starter!?!) who was voted captain BY HIS TEAMMATES, walk.
February 17th, 2020 at 12:00 pm
footballjunkie, if the conversation is to much for you to handle, I suggest you stick to reading (or probably just looking at the pictures) the comics.