Something New: Coaching

January 30th, 2020

Shaq details personal touch.

Joe sure didn’t write about this very often during the Lost Decade.

Yes, Joe has returned to the Tampa Bay area after digging up all sorts of interviews at the Miami Beach Convention Center, the beehive of Super Bowl activities this week (lots more stuff to come).

Now yesterday Joe heard NFL sack leader Shaq Barrett was bouncing around radio row. Joe didn’t see him and ran out of time as Joe had a flight to catch.

But Shaq did find his way on the NFL Network set where he was interviewed by fetching Colleen Wolfe and former Stinking Panthers wide receiver Steve Smith. His answer to Wolfe’s first question had Joe thinking about something that has crossed his mind before, and spoke about with a couple of people in Miami this week.

Maybe for the first time since Chucky was here players are being developed. We’ve seen that with the rookie cornerbacks. We’ve seen that with some veterans. Several players sure seemed to have improved their play.

Again, it appears the Bucs are being coached, especially on defense. Well, this thought sure seemed to have been reinforced yesterday by Shaq in his sitdown with NFL Network.

So Wolfe asked Barrett why he blew up with the Bucs? Barrett’s very first answer showed the change that has happened at One Buc Palace that has been way overdue.

“It was the coaching,” Barrett responded to Wolfe.

Haven’t heard that in a while on the defensive side of the ball.

Shaq later said the Bucs made him feel like he “belonged.” Shaq indicated while in Denver, the Broncos liked him but didn’t believe he was worthy of starting. That wasn’t the case with the Bucs.

“[Denver] wanted me as a backup, second-string with no potential to start,” Shaq explained.

Shaq admitted the “love” the Bucs showed him made him want to play harder with the Bucs. We all saw the results. Wow!

This, Joe cannot explain how refreshing it is. Coaching is making an impact with the Bucs. Real coaching. It’s been missing for way too long.

Joe doesn’t think it is nuts to believe this is the best coaching staff the Bucs have had in the post-Chucky era.

65 Responses to “Something New: Coaching”

  1. Todd Says:

    That’s encouraging to read.

  2. Buczilla Says:

    I’m not celebrating yet, but it looks like we could be on the path to respectability.

  3. Bucsfanman Says:

    Did someone say “coaching”?!
    There’s more work to be done, but it’s about time that stench was cleaned up.

  4. BucEmUp Says:

    Not something you would have heard with Lovie or Dork running things.

  5. El Buco Realisto Says:

    Very smart for Barrett to repeat his boss words while in a very short while will be negotiating and asking fo a huge raise!!!!!!!!

    If it were the same situation under incompetent lovie, you go to radio row, and say ” it was the scheme, it’s as simple as that”!!!!!!!!!!! And then cash that 20 million a year check!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Very smart of Barrett to play the suck up game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  6. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Actually, when you consider some of the players around him…..Suh, JPP, Nassib & Devin White……you can start to see some improvements…..but the “culture” starts and ends with the coaches….and Todd Bowles is on the right track.

    And, sure…..Shaq is positioning himself for a big payday which he will get in Tampa or somewhere else….

  7. BigHog Says:

    The culture has been rectified…that’s what happens when you bring in leaders like JPP..SHUEY..MINTER..GO TREAM BUCS 2020!!

  8. NOLES Says:

    Keep JPP please… he is also a BIG part of the winning culture developing on D. It is coincidence the D played its best w him
    Back at full speed..

    BA is holding guys accountable… ie.. VH release… i know some of you feel he doesn’t hold JW accountable but i believe he does behind closed doors & he MOSTLY embraces Him in the media as a way to build & keep his confidence high..

    Again tough spot on decision at QB but feel this team can keep moving in right direction if we keep this D & add some GAMERS in FA & draft… Guys who LOVE to play football that’s where it starts…

  9. WyldKat Says:

    By itself, nothing wrong with humping that palm tree; but, Shaggy Baker.

  10. Buccernutter Says:


    I believe this is the best coaching staff we’ve ever had.

  11. Buccernutter Says:


    Couldn’t agree more!

  12. Lazy animations Says:

    I’m sure joe will cover the rest of the interview he did. But jeez shaq said a lot for a interview that was only 3 mins long. It only raised my confidence in arians and his staff and how they have dole things. Ton of substance in his short interview that can be taken a ton of ways, all positive too!

  13. Craig Says:

    Let’s hope there are some further developmental steps to take.

    The defensive line seems set and special. The backfield needs one more major piece, a great safety. The Bowles to to tech them to shift coverages from man to different types of zone. That would bump up the interception rate.

    The offense can’t go much farther until those supposed quick throws become actual quick throws and the QB quits staring down receivers. Better depth on the O-line would help, as would a better RB or two.

  14. Go Bucs 72 Says:

    Totally confident in this coaching staff. The Bucs took a little heat over the number of coaches and the 2 practices at once training camp but as Joe stated, players clearly improved over the course of the season. It’s a shame JPP was in that accident, I feel if he was playing the entire season we would have won more games. I hope they can figure out a way to bring back Barrett, Suh and JPP.

  15. 813bucboi Says:


    been saying for a while now….the problem was coaching and lack of development not players and talent…..

    GO BUCS!!!!!

  16. 813bucboi Says:


    smitty couldnt develop mud if he had dirt and water let alone a DB!!!!!!!

    barrett is speaking the truth….

    if it was the same situation under smitty, YOU would be saying its coaching and all hail smitty……

    LICHT was smart to can smitty mid year!!!!!!!!

    GO BUCS!!!!!!!

  17. Buccernutter Says:


    No, you’ve been saying Jamies was the problem for a while now.

    FOH!!!! LMAO

  18. PSL Bob Says:

    Thinking back to the announcement that BA was coming to the Bucs, my recollection was that you, Joe, and most posters on this site were pretty positive about his coaching acumen. And, he brought in a ton of support. I think the main knock was tagging Leftwich for the OC position. So, it’s not surprising that with a new system and so many young players on defense, it took a while for everyone to get settled in. In 2021, everyone on that side of the ball will have a year of experience not only in BA’s system, but also in the NFL. Keep the front 7 in tact, get a new safety in the draft and pick up some depth through FA, and this defense will be solid. It is coaching, but it’s also having the right personnel.

  19. Isaac haggins Says:

    @tampabaybucsfan………. the culture used to go through Gerald McCoy and every coach including Schiano catered to that nice Guy !!! He is now Carolinas Disease !!! Look at the growth in leadership from Lavonte , don’t for even a second anyone say that David wasn’t 5 times the leader and more vocal ( positively) than he was W McCoy !!! Jpp was better !!! Vita was better !!! Like I said Carolinas Cancer Now !!! Advice for the new staff in Carolina get rid of McCoy he will undermine everything you try to do !!!

  20. Buccernutter Says:


    Couldn’t be happier mccoy is gone.

  21. Nick2 Says:

    Awesome news now lets not question the legions of coaches BA has on his staff. If it keeps Shaq Barrett in town its all worth it right????

  22. 813bucboi Says:

    Shaq later said the Bucs made him feel like he “belonged.” Shaq indicated while in Denver, the Broncos liked him but didn’t believe he was worthy of starting. That wasn’t the case with the Bucs.

    “[Denver] wanted me as a backup, second-string with no potential to start,” Shaq explained.

    Shaq admitted the “love” the Bucs showed him made him want to play harder with the Bucs. We all saw the results. Wow!

    this is why i think we give SHAQ a multi year deal and not the tag… wasnt like we grabbed him in SEPT after one of our players got injured….TB wanted him….TB needed him….TB put him in position to be successful and he succeed…….

    imo, its a slap in the face to shaq if they pull out the tag…..

    reward players for producing….i bet on himself and won….last think we want to do is:

    piss shaq off
    he holds out
    causes a distraction
    comes back week7, plays half the season
    and then hauls @$$ in the off season…..

    shaq was motivated to prove to the bucs and the world he is a starter….now give him a contract and watch him play out his mind….

    GO BUCS!!!!

  23. LordCornelius Says:

    “Joe doesn’t think it is nuts to believe this is the best coaching staff the Bucs have had in the post-Chucky era.”

    100%. The only player that regressed under this staff was Cameron Brate.

    -O-line had their best season in terms of grading in recent years
    -Went from worst to first in run defense overnight
    -We saw our young corners & safeties go from garbage to legit starters and saw a guy like Carlton Davis shut down a guy like Hopkins to end the year
    -Devin White came on super strong down the stretch
    -Breshaud Perriman had the best year of his career
    -Chris Godwin broke out HUGE
    -Nassib continued to show he wasn’t a 1 year wonder

    If Jameis doesn’t have his worst year of his career in the NFL, we easily are an up & coming 9-11+ win team vs the “?” at QB offseason we have now.

  24. LordCornelius Says:

    Cameron Brate & OJ Howard**

  25. 813bucboi Says:


    he was PART of the problem THIS YEAR….30INTs proves that!!!!

    but he falls under the same category as the others….

    under dirk, lots of payers werent developed properly…including him…..

    but we have superior coaching now so thats 1 less excuse JW has….

    GO BUCS!!!!!!

  26. Defense Rules Says:

    @Joe … “Joe doesn’t think it is nuts to believe this is the best coaching staff the Bucs have had in the post-Chucky era.”

    I’m curious Joe. Why JUST the POST-Chucky era? Gruden’s record AFTER our 2002 Super Bowl year was 45-51 over a 6-year span, and included ONE playoff appearance (that we lost 24-14 to the Giants). Our average defensive ranking in that span was #9 (under Monte Kiffin), while our average offensive ranking was over #21 (under Jon Gruden). My opinion is that our slide STARTED big-time during Chucky’s reign, and accelerated under Raheem, Schiano, Lovie & Koetter.

  27. Buccernutter Says:


    That is not the narrative you have been spinning for a while but whatever you say.

    1 less REASON.

  28. mark2001 Says:

    It isn’t ancient history…but remember the crowd that swore these guys were adult professionals and coaching made no difference, while the rest of us swore that as they are all talented at the Pro level, yes some more than others, but that coaching is hugely important? Funny…I haven’t heard anyone say that in a while.

  29. mark2001 Says:

    And if the coaching staff is that good..I think it is… we should be able to trust them regarding evaluating our players, pushing hard to keep those they think can play at an equal or higher level in the future, and jettisoning those that aren’t capable of doing so…at a reasonable price. That is the most important thing Bruce is doing right now. And I trust him and his staff to put their heads together and make the right decision. And we as fans should rest in that until they prove us wrong.

  30. Soort Says:

    Refreshing isn’t it? Good on Ya Joe, you can see the difference. Now you are hearing from the NFL Sack Leader! Your statement about Rice and double digit sacks can be put to bed.

    813 Buc – good thoughts and I agree. Our number one priority is keeping this entire D intact. Don’t mess with it.

    In BA I Trust!

  31. 813bucboi Says:

    The Buc Realist Says:
    December 4th, 2017 at 6:56 am
    So far this year
    Offense 20.2 pts avg, Ranked 22nd in the nfl!!!!!
    Defense 24 pts avg, Ranked 21st in the nfl
    Both need 2 starters on each line!!!!!!! do that and this team looks totally different next year!!!!!!

    we went 5-11 in 2017 and 5-11 2018!!!!!!….lol….

    youve been wrong so many times i cant tell the difference between you and nutter….lol….


    GO BUCS!!!!!!

  32. 813bucboi Says:

    813bucboi Says:
    December 4th, 2017 at 11:12 am
    injuries are apart of the game….name one team that is running with a full clip right now….
    stop making excuses…..this team is 4-8 for several reasons and most of them for because of coaching…or lack there of…..
    from what ive seen all season we have the talent but we don’t have competent coaches in place….GO BUCS!!!!

    ive been saying it for years FAT MOUTH!!!!!!

    FOH!!!! LMAO

    GO BUCS!!!!!!!

  33. Buccernutter Says:


    I guess you’ve been saying EVERYTHING b**** boy.

    Should I find the 100s of jameis hate posts?

  34. Buccernutter Says:


    Bruh you haven’t ever called me out on being wrong. In fact, I’ve done that to you more times than I can count and you just disappear until your next idiotic post ha


  35. mark2001 Says:

    813…we have to have a little patience with the youngsters. As is with most young people, it takes them a little while to learn they don’t know half of what they think they do. And it is our job, as the golden generation of long term posters, to educate them without breaking their spirit. Life can be harsh, and they hare many lessons to learn. And usually just not allowing them to forget their mistakes is enough.

  36. JimmyJack Says:

    Joe that means a lot coming from you. Never known you once to sugarcoat your opinion. You’ve been a harsh critic escepially toward our coaching staffs……but you’ve always been fair. It’s hurts sometimes to read about our shortcomings. Yeah the truth can hurt.

    But it warms my heart to hear you say this is the best coaching staff we had in over a decade. Cause I know your not just kissing butt when you say that(believe me I don’t take every reporters word on face value).

    Appreciate your unbridled opinions even if they do drive me bat crazy from time to time.

    Totally agree with you on this topic.

    GO BUCS!!!!

  37. Swampbuc Says:

    I read somewhere that the game has passed Arians by. LOL.

  38. 813bucboi Says:


    go right ahead……you mean like this:

    813bucboi Says:
    December 30th, 2019 at 11:20 am
    4years 100mil 2years 50mil guaranteed


    and that was after he set the record for most INTs in a season…..

    GO BUCS!!!!!!

  39. 813bucboi Says:


    you’re right….

    simple as that…

    GO BUCS!!!!!

  40. mark2001 Says:

    Swampbuc… I remember some SB winning coach said football isn’t rocket science.

    BTW…. When you are a good judge of character..a straight shooter with a good reputation.. With…a good knowledge of human nature…good management skills…. good motivational skills… a solid knowledge of the game….a good staff…and a love for the game and the job… it isn’t rocket science.

  41. El Buco Realisto Says:

    If the Bucs have all this talent and have the greatest coaching staff, why the losing season????? Why did they have to draft a new secondary and bought a new D-line if all that needed was to be “coached up”??????

    Funny how some sheep try to fit their narrative with a couple of wins with a very soft schedule!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Don’t you have to deliver great accomplishments to be considered great?????????

    The lack of fans in the stands proves that the “real” fans already know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  42. mark2001 Says:

    El Buco…No one said all we needed to do is “coach up” players. Bruce said there was plenty of talent as I remember….and there was. JPP’s injury was out of left field. McCoy cut and Suh signed? Needed to be done. Barrett? Bowles knew what he had and needed another pass rusher. Kwon had talent, but coming off injury, who can argue about drafting White? Yes we need another RB… and Dotson is aging. But WR’s and TE’s… plenty of talent. Even Jameis has talent…just don’t know if he can continue to develop it and overcome his weaknesses. And the schedule didn’t turn out to be as soft as expected…but then, it rarely is what you think it will be. Fans in the stands…what would you expect after years of failing to make the playoffs. Fans know little about talent for talent sake,nor do their care. They want wins.

  43. JimmyJack Says:

    The way our defense came on at the end of the season was a true turning point for this franchise. As a fan you could literally see players start clicking and step their games up. Devin White started playing faster. Bunting started seeing. Dean started making plays on the ball. It was really fun to watch.

    Not only could you see the individual players you could see them come together as a team and start playing as a unit. It was a breathe of freaking fresh air. Even just the little things like the way we tackled stood out. It’s like the team wasn’t thinking no more. They were playing football, doing their jobs and flying to the ball.

    I genuinely feel sorry for any dope that couldn’t see it. This is a defense that knows how to play together. They hit a point where their instincts align. That doesn’t go away. Only gets better.

    GO BUCS!!!

  44. Defense Rules Says:

    @Lord C … “If Jameis doesn’t have his worst year of his career in the NFL, we easily are an up & coming 9-11+ win team vs the “?” at QB offseason we have now.”

    I agree LC. Bucs could’ve ended up 11-5 if not for the turnovers. In the 5 years Jameis has been here, the Bucs’ offense has had 3 or more turnovers 27 times (not all of those are on him obviously, but giveaways are giveaways). Our record in those 27 games? Oh ya, 4-23 … 2015 (0-4); 2016 (0-3); 2017 (1-4); 2018 (1-5); 2019 (2-6).

    There’s a progression there in the number of games with 3 or more turnovers as a TEAM: 2015 (4); 2016 (3); 2017 (5); 2018 (6); 2019 (8). Hmmm, maybe I should’ve said ‘REGRESSION there’. Turnovers are deadly. We keep beating ourselves.

  45. El Buco Realisto Says:

    It’s funny to see the sheep think that it all came together and will build till next year!!!!!! Some need To go back and see who they actually beat!!!!!!!!! One win, and one loss against Matt Ryan and three wins against back up QB’s, is what all their false optimism is built on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The truth will be exposed!!!!!!!! But the “real” fans already know and will not buy tickets to witness the losses!!!!!!!!!!

    How long does it take for the “win now” coach to start winning????????

  46. Buccernutter Says:

    Don’t mind mark2001

    He posted about his business and lifestyle after telling me for an entire day he doesn’t care what people think about him. He then proceeded to tell me he is 84 and suffers from dementia.


    Like i said, you post EVERYTHING. So that when you get called out you can site something to support your argument. Great strategy. Don’t act like you’ve ever won a debate though.

    I will give you guys credit WHEN and IF you can actually make a legit case. Until then, keep gossiping about me while enjoying your golden years.

  47. Buccernutter Says:


  48. Buccernutter Says:

    BTW does anybody actually read el buccos aka realist’s posts anymore?

  49. Buccernutter Says:


    Also, suggesting jameis will take 25 a year is laughable. He’s getting 30 or he’s gone. Period.

  50. Buccernutter Says:

    or tagged

  51. Defense Rules Says:

    Lord C … Oh and just for kicks, looked at 3 teams with established QBs over that same time period (2015-2019): New England, New Orleans and Green Bay to see how their offenses did in terms of games with 3 or more turnovers.

    Patriots had 4 games with 3 or more giveaways in those 5 years; they won ALL 4.

    Saints had 7 games with 3 or more giveaways in those 5 years: won 2 lost 5.

    Packers had 13 games with 3 or more giveaways in those 5 years: won 3 lost 10.

    Kind of makes sense because Rodgers is more of a gunslinger than Brady or Brees. And interestingly, ALL of the Saints losses (5) came in 2015 & 2016 BEFORE they had a good defense and while Brees was more of a gunslinger himself. PERHAPS the ‘Bombs Away’ attack philosophy is more at fault than we all acknowledge?

  52. Buccernutter Says:


    Something relevant to that is to research turnovers after a qb passes more than 40 times a game. It’s almost always at least one and most of them have multiple ints.

  53. mark2001 Says:

    Jimmy…well said…I haven’t seen a D fly to the ball and feast like that in this town for 20 years. It almost sent a chill up my spine.

  54. mark2001 Says:

    Nutter believes in quantity of posts without any quality. Never mind the childish attempt to say something. He has a podcast..on modern dance, no doubt.

    In another day he will disappear from this board, while busily going back to his menial work job and attending his modern dance class for his college major to improve his lot in life. and coaching have much in common. But a laborer wouldn’t understand that, as you don’t Nuts…I get that. Dude? How cool he is.

    And I never said I was 84, though likely still twice as bright as he is, even in my 60’s. Making up facts and stories as usual; we receive nothing but fake facts and false assumptions from Nuts.

  55. Buccernutter Says:

    mark2001 believes in neither quantity or quality evidently. Another 60+ year old insult. Man they get worse as you get older.

    Let me get this straight, I have a podcast on modern dance, I have a menial work job and attend modern dance class to improve my lot in life, yet I’M THE ONE MAKING UP FACTS AND STORIES AS USUAL. Lol I guess I may have been more accurate about the dementia than I thought. Ya buddy, you’re real bright smh.

    mark2001 the days of your jabs being funny are as outdated as an episode of MASH. I’m sure there are a few readers at home who chuckled after reading your post as they transitioned from the oxygen tank to a bowl of pudding though so I bet you’re satisfied.

    I would be surprised if you were as successful as I am at 33 as you were at 50. But remember, you don’t care what people think? Now cue the long paragraph about your life, but first reiterate how much you don’t care.

  56. mark2001 Says:

    Retired in my 50’s.. That is what that MBA gets you…Dancing Nut Dude….

    Get an education…. you can do better.

    And that is why I’ve been posting here almost a decade…except when traveling from one place or from here to the Lake home. Life is great.. so why don’t you stop trying to convince us all of something you are making up? Why are you still working? Oh yes…success.

  57. 813bucboi Says:

    El Buco Realisto Says:
    January 30th, 2020 at 1:45 pm
    If the Bucs have all this talent and have the greatest coaching staff, why the losing season????? Why did they have to draft a new secondary and bought a new D-line if all that needed was to be “coached up”??????

    BA and the staff had to COACH THE DIRK OUTTA THEM!!!!!!!….LOL….

    GO BUCS!!!!!!

  58. 813bucboi Says:


    thats laughable…..

    your folks are certainly embarrassed of you….lol…

    GO BUCS!!!!!

  59. Buccernutter Says:

    Dancing Nut Dude? HA don’t sh** your pants when you giggle to yourself.

    The irony is I do have an mba and a real estate investment firm, you know since we’re telling each other our life stories. But but but ya I don’t care, just like you LMAO

    mark I just said I’m 33. 17 years before you allegedly retired. Ya man, 33 and still working. Must not be successful. Can’t wait til I can retire in 20 years and go on the internet all day everyday at a lake house I invented on the internet to sound cool to a stranger 20 years younger than myself. I see you’re really taking advantage of retirement. LOL

    But keep trying to convince yourself or others that I’m a dancer (weird?), you know something that you made up. Lol

  60. mark2001 Says:

    You said you were more successful than I am…that must mean you are getting ready to retire or are retired. As usual, you lack logic.

    You do dance… have yet to give any logical insight or direct answer to good questions by the esteemed fans with longevity and knowledge on this board.

    So I assumed it was just a carry over from your career goal.

  61. Buccernutter Says:


    If that’s the case I’m surprised because you certainly do not seem like an intelligent person entertaining a petty debate with a stranger that is 30 years younger than you on a website. Not to mention the hypocrisy you radiate when stating someone doesn’t give any logical insight. You’ve been talking about dancing while simultaneously attempting to ridicule someone for making stuff up….while you make stuff up. LMAO 😂

    Just face it, your peak is over. You get on here as often as you do because you’re retired and bored. You got embarrassed by a 33 year old on a bucs blog. That’s what your life is.

    How about this, I’d be surprised if you were as successful as I am at my age. But I’m sure you’ve created your own image of me in the computer room of your lake house.

    As usual, you still lack humor. Like I said before if you think you know your stuff, hit me up. I’ll embarrass you again, in real life. Oh ya that’s right, you’re too good for that. Just not too good to spend all day on the internet debating a stranger or divulging about your private life.

    Must be sad to get roasted by someone half your age. Enjoy your lake house and the internet.

  62. mark2001 Says:

    Poor Nut. Time for some more psychiatric sessions. You are babbling…and you aren’t roasting anyone. In fact, you are being slapped down constantly by people much more knowledgeable about the game and the team than you are. You were probably playing Mario Bros. and staring at your facts of life poster in your bedroom while we watched the SB. But now you are a fount of knowledge. Sure.

    And what do you do? Babble on…quantity not quality. That isn’t the sign of a successful business manager or a coach. BTW… you really asked a question you shouldn’t have. I spend whatever time I choose on the internet… that is an advantage of being retired. But how can a successful guy in the middle of his career do so? Again… you just show yourself to be other than you claim…and likely what I said you are…laborer. Talk about being roasted…ouch.

    The roasting is in your own mind… Dance on tiny dancer. And dream of your “riches”.

  63. mark2001 Says:

    I’ll leave you to ponder this, Nutt.

    Most people that spend as much time on this board, as you have recentlym are in the following situations…

    1. This is their board. They belong to Joe Bucs Fan.
    2. They are retired.
    3. They have little life other than this board,. Board…sleep…eat…work a labor job.
    4. If not retired, and if posting during the day alot, they work nights. Or take time away from their employer which is basically stealing. Good luck with that.
    5. If not retired, if posting during the night alot, they work days. Or take time away from their employer which is basically stealing. Good luck with that.
    6. Their work is mostly seasonal. But this is prime tourist season.
    7. They are students. And work around classes or part time jobs.
    8. They are unemployed and are waiting for a phone call or email.
    9. They are house husbands/ wife’s, and the spouse doesn’t know what they do all day.
    10. They are confined and have nothing else to do they enjoy.
    11. You have a job with an alternating work schedule where you have large blocks of time at work, and then large blocks of time off,

    Personally each to their own.

    Now it could be a combination of these. But it isn’t successful businessmen in their prime, working 50 or 60 hours a week…or more.., while trying to juggle a family or social life. And you aren’t going to turn your business over for large expanses of time to someone else to run it… your fortune rides on it.

    Don’t know which you are…I’m retired…number two. But it doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to figure out you aren’t what you claim to be. Just saying.

  64. Buccernutter Says:


    I can’t believe how naive you are for a 69 year old man. That next to last paragraph is the dumbest thing I have ever read from a man who thinks he succeeded in life. In case you’re not fully aware of real estate investment, I have 5 homes. I currently live in one and rent 4. The generate a steady stream of income with little maintenance. I show up when needed and collect rent. Monthly inspections. Let’s just say I am lucky to have a business that takes little work.

    I know you think you know about business, but you have clarified 10x that you never had a business, so you really don’t know s***. LMAO.

    Evidently you would need the help of sherlock holmes in this instance as you couldn’t be farther from the truth and spent a great deal of time trying to convince yourself a stranger on the internet isn’t more successful than you were at 33.

    You’re a weird old man who is evidently out of touch with reality. It may because you’re isolating yourself in the computer room at your lake house.

    But you care a lot about what my life is like for someone who doesn’t care what I think.

    Either way, you’re wrong and may be getting a little too old to hold a debate with someone half your age on the internet.

  65. Buccernutter Says:


    Thanks for creating the 12 unwritten rules for jbf engagement. You spent a good amount of time creating this law. If you aren’t part of the 12 listed, then you do not engage on jbf.

    You’re an idiot LMAO