Time To Bench Or Sign Jameis Winston
November 3rd, 2019
Here the Bucs sit at 2-6 after today’s gut-wrenching overtime loss in Seattle.
A playoff berth is just a fantasy and, as of now, the Bucs have no quarterback for next season.
So it’s time to make an executive decision.
The vaunted, 67-year-old quarterback whisperer, Bruce Arians, and his army of assistants have watched Jameis Winston for a full offseason plus half a season of games. Team Glazer and Jason Licht have known Jameis for nearly five years.
They know what they have — whether they want to admit it or not.
The smart move is either to bench America’s Quarterback now and let the world know you’ve taken him out of your future plans, or make Jameis a contract offer.
Sitting on the fence makes little sense. As Joe has written, you either play for the playoffs or you play for the draft. That includes the starting quarterback who becomes a free agent after this season.
Make a call, Bucs.
Show fans that this team has a clear plan and a direction, and is willing to make a very difficult decision at a very difficult time.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:38 pm
It’s time to bench Licht. Thats more obvious than anything else. Winston cant be blamed. He showed heart out there and competed. This defense did not. Never does. I don’t care how many “leaders” are on this defense. It’s a toilet bowl filled with crap.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:38 pm
Bench
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:39 pm
Neither….geeshhh
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:39 pm
No… give him all the rest of the games to prove himself…to us or other teams. Since we have no other viable alternative, I think it would be the wrong move.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:39 pm
NOBODY TOUCHED HIM AND THE BALL CAME OUT!!!
ITS OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:40 pm
“Show fans that this team has a clear plan and a direction”
Bwahahahahahaha…the funniest thing ever written by a Joe!
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:40 pm
Lmao, let’s fix this D and we can talk. Pay the man
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:40 pm
Why right now? Let him finish the season. As of now i’d probably draft a q.b. though.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:40 pm
agree with Cmurda
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:41 pm
Boycott the bucs. Fcking embarrassing for me to root for this shtshow anymore. Blow the damn thing up, don’t care anymore.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:41 pm
Ha ha ha. His phantom turnover cost us the game. Looks like he and his show crab eating family has money on the games.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:41 pm
And keep playing him…..need to tank….Dont kid yourselves!
2 more losses coming right up!!! And im actually ok with it.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:41 pm
Bench the secondary.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:41 pm
Don’t know if Jameis is the guy…one lucky TD that could have been intercepted. One fumble. He had a decent game… let’s see if he can continue to grow and develop consistency. He isn’t the biggest of our problems…but he is the most expensive.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:42 pm
MadMax Donovan Smith touched him.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:42 pm
Place the blame where it belongs….with ownership!
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:42 pm
2-6 ha ha ha. 6-3 without the redard QB
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:43 pm
Let Jameis ” meaningless stats ” Winston America’s QB who played well today keep playing, he had his good game and now is ready for his meh game…
No lifeboat for Winston and he is 23-39
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:44 pm
JWs TO hurt us yet again….
Defense forced a TO and JW gave it right back in great field position….
GO BUCS
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:44 pm
Blame it on the D
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:44 pm
Both of these are bad options right now actually
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:44 pm
Sign him or watch the Bucs go 0-16 next year..
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:45 pm
this joe is absolutely clueless
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:45 pm
I’m so confused;..did we just lose another game?
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:45 pm
I’m pretty sure D. Smith hit JW but I could be wrong. Jamal Dean was tired but we kept playing man, that guy has never played that many minutes in his life
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:45 pm
Jameis only had 1 mistake today but that 1 mistake was absolutely inexcusable. And it happened at the most important time of the game. We had the momentum and Jameis single handedly destroyed it with buffoonery. Ad much as I love Jameis, theres no way Im signing him unless hes taking a huge hometown discount.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:45 pm
This rudderless ship cannot venture out from the safe haven of Buccaneer Cove.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:46 pm
Can’t just extend him off today or the body of work thus far.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:46 pm
@mark…you didnt see the game! Dude drops his arm back and loses the ball…wtf you talking about grow and develop….theres nothing left but dead downhill redundancy!
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:46 pm
If you guys think jameis lost the game you’re out of your minds
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:46 pm
Why in the world would any sane person sign Lame-Ass
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:46 pm
Blame Jameis all you want but if you put up 34 points you should win.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:46 pm
@Madmax. DSmith hot his arm on the throw. It’s obvious on the replay. JW has plenty of turnovers on his own. We don’t need to pile on when other players dont do their jobs.
Winston showed today that he can be very good. He’s shown in the past that he can be very bad. At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter how he plays with this defense. 6th highest scoring team in the league is 2-6. That stat tells the story.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:46 pm
Winston isn’t the problem. He needs a running game, and a secondary that can make some damn plays.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:47 pm
Let him finish the season. He didn’t lose the game today. If you score 34 points you should win the game. Our secondary has lost so many games this year. Wilson is just a beast. Hard to beat Seattle at home.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:47 pm
I thought Jameis played pretty well today. Our POS Secondary lost this game for us
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:48 pm
When we lost to New Orleans I thought we lost to the better team.
Seattle was better than us at only ONE position. JW played a decent game…typical of the good JW with a fumble tossed in.
But JW cannot carry Wilson’s jock. I do not need stats although they’re also convincing but Wilson is in a totally different league than JW.
Can we win with JW…only if we build a better team around him.
Trent Dilfer won a SB…Flacco…there are more than one game managers who won SB’s.
So here is the choice I see Joe. We are 2-6…and I don’t want to quit until it’s literally or mathematically eliminated. We have plenty of time to make a decision on JW. He stills gives us the best chance to win another game.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:48 pm
Pay him? You must be joking…lets see if he can play consistently well the rest of the games this year. He hasn’t strung more than two or three good games together. And you would pay him franchise money? Wpw…just wow. If we did that, I would lose all faith in this organization, and figure the team has been Chloroformed.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:48 pm
Couch Fan said it best…he destroyed the momentum….
again….
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:48 pm
I only saw it once but it looked like Donovan Smith was pushed back into Winston and his elbow hit Smith’s helmet on that interception. I could be wrong…
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:48 pm
Blame Jameis all you want, but if you score 34 points you should win.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:48 pm
At this point, we just might have a chance at drafting Burrow! PLEASE FOOTBALL GODS, I BEG YOU!!!!!!
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:48 pm
Winston wasn’t the problem…today…
Next game????
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:49 pm
Our defense gives up 35 plus points every single week. Qb isn’t our biggest issue.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:49 pm
Hmmmm: d Foster, Mahoomes, Russel Wilson,
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:49 pm
A continued hair grabbing game where JW looks great and then the untouched ball catapulted from his hands up for grabs results in another JW turn over that was insurmountable! Who else could have served that up!
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:49 pm
The mental midget’s one TD was pure luck on what should have been an interception. A total moron
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:50 pm
BENCH
CUT
RETIRE
let’s see how these receivers, this offense runs with Griffin or Gabbert!
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:50 pm
“Show fans that this team has a clear plan and a direction,” is the quote of the season. Sorry to beat a dead horse, but it is clear the Bucs have no system, let alone a plan. Three straight defensive coordinators have failed. At one point do we take a timeout and just admit Licht has consistently assembled terrible talent on that side of the ball? We all know what the definition of insanity is, right? Do the Glazers?
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:50 pm
Jameis plays terrible at times.. but today wasn’t on him. D Smith hit his arm and caused the fumble. Secondary lost us the game today.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:50 pm
That was a fun game to watch, even though the secondary is terrible.
Bucs had alot of fight today, but Wilson is great and he beat them.
Let the season play out, Jameis was much improved today, he’s just not as good as Wilson
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:52 pm
I’m sure Arians will again raise the SODDI defense…another moron
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:52 pm
FROM THE REPLAY I SAW, SMITH DID NOT HIT HIS ARM!!!!!
Ok, i’ll wait for better analysis….and i cut the cord so i only watch on the net
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:52 pm
The thing is… if we DO keep playing jw, he’s gonna win us enough games to pick around 10-15. Better off tanking for burrow
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:53 pm
Here’s the difference between a James Winston QB and a Russell Wilson QB….EVERY Seahawks fan in that stadium and watching on tv KNEW that Russell Wilson was going to do everything he needed to do to win that game and had confidence in him! Outside of a few Winston homers, who would believe the sky was maroon if Winston said it was, no one felt that way about our QB!
This was a tight, well fought game…the difference….they didn’t turn the ball over….we did. That 3 points the Hawks got off the Winston fumble cost us the game in regular time! A FAR SUPERIOR QB named Russell Wilson cost us the game in overtime!
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:53 pm
Not as good as Wilson? He’s not as good as my Yorkie…Yorkie is smarter and has more game
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:53 pm
The Jameis haters really are committed. The kid completed 66% of his passes and scored 34 points today, on the road, in the NFL’s most hostile environment. Our Big 12 D gave up 40 points. That is why we lost.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:53 pm
Woah woah woah. What’s the rush?!? Quite the false decision presented here at week 9 when there is no urgency required.
If they sign him to an extension then a freak injury puts him on IR, that’s gunna look even dummer than our management ready looks. Plus if they manage to win a couple more games and are out of the running for a top QB in the draft order, they have to consider franchising him unless you want the red rocket wearing red.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:55 pm
This organization doesn’t make decisions like that mid season.
If I had to guess, I would bet they give him the $27 million franchise tag after the season. It’s another in a long history of lost season’s for all of us, but it’s Arians and The Apple Dumpling Gang’s first rodeo with this bunch of buns. They’ll try to hit the reset button and march us all directly in front of the firing squad again next year.
….and this vicious cycle continues….
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:55 pm
The only reason this game was close is because Winston had a good game which seems to happen every 3 or 4 weeks. However, this defense is such a heap of rat dung that even a perfect game by The offense woyld win half The games. Jason Licht should at least be fired if not incarcerated. He has ruined any chance this city has of cheering for a winning team during his reign.
I am pulling against the Bucs until Licht is fired. I want him to conti,i.e. to fail because I want his sorry sack to be fired!
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:55 pm
The decision has been made. Just because Winston continues to play does not mean they don’t know. More than likely, he will again have a multipe turnover game, maybe even next week, and that may be the flush time. Ryan Griffin isn’t the answer; I think everyone knows that. But it sure would be nice to get him some game experience and see if he will be the backup next year. Or, he may prove good enough as a bridge QB.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:58 pm
I called the “Dead Cat Bounce” game for Winston earlier in the week and the beginning of the game. I knew he would play good. Unfortunately, Good Winston only shows up once every 4 weeks. 2 weeks you get average Winston and one week you get Atrocious Winston. Sad to say it because he had a good game today, but he is too inconsistent to resign.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:59 pm
Free Jameis! Set him free of the Glazers cess pool! Glazers Out! lLichts Out!
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:00 pm
Join me aboard the Firrreeeeee Licht train!
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:00 pm
sometimes you just have to set them free. If he moves on to have a better career, then so be it. It was meant to be. Or we keep him and it’s like having Andy Daulton every game while your team is strapped for cash like Joe Flacco set the Ravens back.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:00 pm
Jar Jar Binks, A clumsy, well-meaning Gungan outcast on Naboo, Jar Jar Binks struggled to prove his worth throughout his life. Putting his awkward past behind him.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:00 pm
Sad thing is. This team could have done much better this season. We’re on the road, after playing two terrible games, against one of the best teams in the league, a game with a 6-2 team playing a 2-5 team, and what does Vegas set as the line, Seahawks -4, literally begging everyone to bet Seattle.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:02 pm
The Bucs can’t commit $25 million to the QB position. There are just too many holes to fill.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:03 pm
The obvious plan is to let Fameis continue to play as he gives us the best chance to get the highest draft pick possible.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:04 pm
Disagree Joe. You play to build a winner. Freaking team needs to learn how to win. So you need to get the secondary learn how to freaking play better.
And when that happens you need your QB to proove he can perform consistently you win games.
Learn how to quit making the mistakes that cost us games and build a winning team we can take into next year.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:07 pm
Let him Jameis leave there is no hope in Tampa ler him and evans both leave so they can taste success outside of the small market irrelevant franchise
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:08 pm
This article is by the dumb Joe, that one that loves Winston. LOL! He had a decent game, except for one game-losing mistake and this Joe wants to hurry and lock him up. Too funny.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:09 pm
What a silly post. Play the second half of the year and then sign him and probably franchise Shaq.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:12 pm
Mad max Donavan Smith hit him when he was getting blown back. You dumb a$$!!!!! . QB ain’t the problem. Oline 2020!!!
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:16 pm
Let’s Trade the whole team to the Patriots for Tom Brady he can win all by himself. “Lol”
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:18 pm
Nope, we don’t bench Winston: we do something about the came-out-of-retirement head coach. I live in retirement heaven downtown Orlando. I know our GM meant the best getting Arians out of retirement, but he blew it.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:21 pm
Bench him.
Another turnover (92 now in almost 5 years).
Another loss. Not even close to Russell Wilson.
Peace, out
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:21 pm
I’ve said this for the past 3 weeks. He was excellent today but we all know “Bad Jay-Miss” will make another appearance.over the next 3 games. It’s just a matter of time.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:26 pm
BucsFan90 Says:
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:44 pm
Sign him or watch the Bucs go 0-16 next year..
Trevor Lawrence ain’t a bad consolation prize then.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:27 pm
I held the hope watching the game that the Bucs could win but really never thought they would so not that disappointed as the rut is dug deeper.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:34 pm
Problem is letting Jason draft a quarter back. Drafting a franchise qb is very difficult but doing so with Licht at the helm is like running with concrete boots on. I think Glazers need to clean house or keep current crew intact. If keeping current crew draft lineman on both sides of the ball and get as many free agent corners as possible.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:38 pm
This article makes no sense. It would make sense if Jameis played consistently. Let him play the season out and see which way he plays consistently – bad or good. I’m guessing it’s bad. This is for a huge pay day, we need to give him a shot to earn it cuz he has not earned it yet.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:39 pm
Why wasn’t the game losing mistake caused by Dotson? After Winston runs for a TD it gets called back because of him which is nothing new.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:45 pm
#1: allowing Licht to make any decisions is insanity. #2: every additional year Winston plays for this franchise will set it back for two. #3: this is probably the dumbest article I’ve read and gives zero justification for just playing out the season. Saying it’s a “smart move” isn’t justification. Saying “it shows you have a plan” is nonsense. With all of the problems on this team, signing Winston now isn’t a plan, it’s a disaster. What happens if he tanks in 5 of the last 8 after you give him the extension? Just dumb.
I could write the same nonsense advocating that they terminate Licht immediately. You’ve seen his work product for 5 years. It’s the smart move. It shows that the team has a plan.
Get freakin serious. Winston plays out the season. Signing him or getting rid of him should be up to a new GM that knows how to build a team.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:46 pm
Stupid article–dude the trading deadline is over, what difference is it if Winston is benched now? might as well wait till the end of the season to evaluate.
It is Jason Licht who needs to be dumped before the next draft–no more defensive backs are to be taken by this man! Buy the future DB’s in free agency. We need a new GM — he is the problem. Cannot believe with all this staff that they decide to go with rooks and failures for the defensive backs except Jordan Whitehead.
On another note, Joe, lose the bad mood, Bucs played better than anyone on the planet expected today and did not embarass themselves. be glad we aren’t Jets fans right now.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:51 pm
Time for Bucs to move on from Winston. 4.5 years of Winston excuses are enough. Both Bucs and Winston need a new breath of fresh air.
If Winston is in a Bucs uniform next year, watch how Ray Jay empties out.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:52 pm
OMFG these posters!
Jeagan – THEY ALSO TURNED THE BALL OVER
MadMax – DSmith hit his arm causing the fumble. Jesus the Joe’s posted the clip on an earlier article. It is clear as day!
I am not an FSU fan, I am a Bucs fan. To the guy saying he didn’t have faith in Winston abut Seattle fans had faith in Wilson. The only reason I kept watching was because JW has the talent and skills to put together a last minute drive to tie the game. I also knew we would lose in OT as soon as Seattle got the ball. Seattle fans probably don’t have the same hopelessness that we have in regards to our pathetic secondary.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:53 pm
At no point did I think the Bucs would win even When up 21-7.
November 3rd, 2019 at 9:01 pm
Cannons
“be glad we aren’t Jets fans right now.”
Ain’t that the truth. Pity the poor Browns fans as well. Like us they thought they had their franchise QB…like us a couple years back this season it was the Browns were the darlings and considered prime playoff contenders.
As of this evening they too are 2-6 and they too are beginning to wonder about their “franchise” QB.
November 3rd, 2019 at 9:09 pm
FOOK JAMEIS WINSTON
November 3rd, 2019 at 9:20 pm
Fook Bucs bandit !!!!!!! Go Bucs Oline 2020!!!!
November 3rd, 2019 at 9:27 pm
Yeah, i posted a link to a vid showing the replay, it went into moderation and WASNT approved. I KNOW SMITH HIT HIS ELBOW AFTER I SAW THE REPLAY!!!!!
I posted it, saying i was wrong within an hour after the game!!!
Joes didnt approve the post
Joe took it down because Joe wrote an entire post that included the video. –Joe
November 3rd, 2019 at 9:34 pm
Jamie’s isnt the issue. That D is and has been atrocious.
Jameis has 12 losses in his career with when he has a QBR over 100. Russ has only 10, Brady only 9. Not that Jameis hasn’t lost some games, but the Bucs losing these past 5 years is more bad defense than poor offense. Give the man a full defense and better offensive line.
November 3rd, 2019 at 9:41 pm
Jameis has an 8 game tryout. Carson Palmer took 8 games to hit his groove with Arians. Why not see what #3 can do?
November 3rd, 2019 at 9:47 pm
bench the defense jameis has been playing well, you guys are nutz
November 3rd, 2019 at 9:50 pm
“Jameis has been playing well.”
Did you get hit by an asteroid and lose your short-term memory for everything that has happened this season before the Seattle game? Jameis has SUCKED.
November 3rd, 2019 at 10:11 pm
Winstin plays well once we are out of the playoffs. Happens every year.
November 3rd, 2019 at 10:12 pm
Can Steve please be on the Ira podcast this week?!? I miss his take
November 3rd, 2019 at 10:32 pm
when our defense gives up 40 points ALL discussions of Winston losing this game is just QB haters.
November 3rd, 2019 at 10:47 pm
@TouchdownTampaBay,
Ryan Fitzpatrick had a lights out game too.
So what! You can count on Winston and Fitz to sh:t themselves way too many times to think they can do anything except waste everyone’s time and talent.
November 3rd, 2019 at 10:48 pm
Brainbucs and BucsBandit have to be the two most CLUELESS people on this here website. My goodness you too need to just go away.
November 3rd, 2019 at 11:10 pm
Every game where the OL played decent Winston played decent. Just like all the other good QB’s in the league.
The stupidity of this Buc fan base is unreal. Some of these posters parents have to be brother and sister. It’s like Dixie’s trailer park in here. You people are the most entertaining part of my day. I can only imagine how entertained I’m going to be after Winston gets resigned.
Thank You Buc Fans!
November 4th, 2019 at 12:37 am
Sign him. If not for him this team would be a complete joke with most of its fans.
November 4th, 2019 at 12:46 am
I’m more sick n tired of our fans who definitely don’t go down with the One and only ship! Eat this loss and straight up choke or live another day. Bucs will figure it out! Never quit!
November 4th, 2019 at 4:56 am
Some of you dont get it
Russel Wilson’s defense was pretty bad today. They gave up 34 points!
So Wilson scored 41- with far less offensive weapons than Jameis.
A good QB overcomes problems. Bad QB’s use them as excuses to lose.
If Mike Evans wasn’t an unstoppable player- with an incredibly large target area, Jameis’ completion rate would be about half of what it is.
Mike Evans has made a career out of bailing out inaccurate, bad QBs.
First Johnny Mansel, Now Jameis
Imagine what he would do with a good QB
November 4th, 2019 at 7:20 am
Capt. Tim, Mike Evans would be a perennial All Pro if he had an average QB. Your point is spot on. The Seahawks would be a 3-5 football team without Wilson. As long as he is on the field he gives them a chance to win. You can’t say the same about Winston.
November 4th, 2019 at 7:23 am
Jameis is not a starter. Jameis is not a back up. Case and point even a backup has one job. Don’t turn the ball over. Simply manage the game and if we loose let it be because you couldn’t win but not because you lost it for us. So you see Jameis does not even meet the criteria of a backup and therefore must be cut.
November 4th, 2019 at 9:29 am
JW needs to play out the season, so he can say he had a “fair” shot. Let’s see where our draft pick will be and hope, with a QB heavy draft, we have a shot at a guy like Burrow (LSU), Herbert (Oregon), Fromm (GA). However, it is time to Let JW go and wish him the best.
November 4th, 2019 at 9:57 pm
Is Jameis worth 30 million or more (The going rate for good young quarterbacks) per year? Hell no. Blow it all up and for gosh sakes let’s send our gm out the door first, closely followed by 90% of the secondary.
November 6th, 2019 at 12:37 pm
Its not that Wilson is so much better than Winston. The fact of the matter is he’s consistant & doesn’t turn the ball over. I don’t think Winston is going to change any time soon. He is what he is. I have a feeling that Licht will sign him for one more year before making a decision on a long term contract. Of course if I had my druthers Loser Licht would not be around to make that decision. Of course getting a 5yr extention I don’t think he’ll be going away any time soon, unless the The Glazer’s sell the team.