Time To Bench Or Sign Jameis Winston

November 3rd, 2019

Here the Bucs sit at 2-6 after today’s gut-wrenching overtime loss in Seattle.

A playoff berth is just a fantasy and, as of now, the Bucs have no quarterback for next season.

So it’s time to make an executive decision.

The vaunted, 67-year-old quarterback whisperer, Bruce Arians, and his army of assistants have watched Jameis Winston for a full offseason plus half a season of games. Team Glazer and Jason Licht have known Jameis for nearly five years.

They know what they have — whether they want to admit it or not.

The smart move is either to bench America’s Quarterback now and let the world know you’ve taken him out of your future plans, or make Jameis a contract offer.

Sitting on the fence makes little sense. As Joe has written, you either play for the playoffs or you play for the draft. That includes the starting quarterback who becomes a free agent after this season.

Make a call, Bucs.

Show fans that this team has a clear plan and a direction, and is willing to make a very difficult decision at a very difficult time.

110 Responses to “Time To Bench Or Sign Jameis Winston”

  1. cmurda Says:

    It’s time to bench Licht. Thats more obvious than anything else. Winston cant be blamed. He showed heart out there and competed. This defense did not. Never does. I don’t care how many “leaders” are on this defense. It’s a toilet bowl filled with crap.

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  4. mark2001 Says:

    No… give him all the rest of the games to prove himself…to us or other teams. Since we have no other viable alternative, I think it would be the wrong move.

  5. MadMax Says:


    ITS OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!

  6. Buc1987 Says:

    “Show fans that this team has a clear plan and a direction”

    Bwahahahahahaha…the funniest thing ever written by a Joe!

  7. Taylor Says:

    Lmao, let’s fix this D and we can talk. Pay the man

  8. Wesley Says:

    Why right now? Let him finish the season. As of now i’d probably draft a q.b. though.

  9. Señor Harry in Costa Rica Says:

    agree with Cmurda

  10. Bucsfaninchina Says:

    Boycott the bucs. Fcking embarrassing for me to root for this shtshow anymore. Blow the damn thing up, don’t care anymore.

  11. Sharthappens Says:

    Ha ha ha. His phantom turnover cost us the game. Looks like he and his show crab eating family has money on the games.

  12. MadMax Says:

    And keep playing him…..need to tank….Dont kid yourselves!

    2 more losses coming right up!!! And im actually ok with it.

  13. BucSuck Says:

    Bench the secondary.

  14. mark2001 Says:

    Don’t know if Jameis is the guy…one lucky TD that could have been intercepted. One fumble. He had a decent game… let’s see if he can continue to grow and develop consistency. He isn’t the biggest of our problems…but he is the most expensive.

  15. BucSuck Says:

    MadMax Donovan Smith touched him.

  16. GlazersOut! Says:

    Place the blame where it belongs….with ownership!

  17. Sharthappens Says:

    2-6 ha ha ha. 6-3 without the redard QB

  18. Pete I Says:

    Let Jameis ” meaningless stats ” Winston America’s QB who played well today keep playing, he had his good game and now is ready for his meh game…

    No lifeboat for Winston and he is 23-39

  19. 813bucboi Says:

    JWs TO hurt us yet again….

    Defense forced a TO and JW gave it right back in great field position….


  20. Sharthappens Says:

    Blame it on the D

  21. King C Says:

    Both of these are bad options right now actually

  22. BucsFan90 Says:

    Sign him or watch the Bucs go 0-16 next year..

  23. JP_09 Says:

    this joe is absolutely clueless

  24. Jim Says:

    I’m so confused;..did we just lose another game?

  25. rrsrq Says:

    I’m pretty sure D. Smith hit JW but I could be wrong. Jamal Dean was tired but we kept playing man, that guy has never played that many minutes in his life

  26. Couch Fan Says:

    Jameis only had 1 mistake today but that 1 mistake was absolutely inexcusable. And it happened at the most important time of the game. We had the momentum and Jameis single handedly destroyed it with buffoonery. Ad much as I love Jameis, theres no way Im signing him unless hes taking a huge hometown discount.

  27. Bosch Says:

    This rudderless ship cannot venture out from the safe haven of Buccaneer Cove.

  28. SteveK Says:

    Can’t just extend him off today or the body of work thus far.

  29. MadMax Says:

    @mark…you didnt see the game! Dude drops his arm back and loses the ball…wtf you talking about grow and develop….theres nothing left but dead downhill redundancy!

  30. Fire the fans Says:

    If you guys think jameis lost the game you’re out of your minds

  31. tgregs Says:

    Why in the world would any sane person sign Lame-Ass

  32. YucsLife76 Says:

    Blame Jameis all you want but if you put up 34 points you should win.

  33. Bculaw Says:

    @Madmax. DSmith hot his arm on the throw. It’s obvious on the replay. JW has plenty of turnovers on his own. We don’t need to pile on when other players dont do their jobs.

    Winston showed today that he can be very good. He’s shown in the past that he can be very bad. At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter how he plays with this defense. 6th highest scoring team in the league is 2-6. That stat tells the story.

  34. James in Dunedin Says:

    Winston isn’t the problem. He needs a running game, and a secondary that can make some damn plays.

  35. Bobby Says:

    Let him finish the season. He didn’t lose the game today. If you score 34 points you should win the game. Our secondary has lost so many games this year. Wilson is just a beast. Hard to beat Seattle at home.

  36. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    I thought Jameis played pretty well today. Our POS Secondary lost this game for us

  37. stpetebucsfan Says:

    When we lost to New Orleans I thought we lost to the better team.

    Seattle was better than us at only ONE position. JW played a decent game…typical of the good JW with a fumble tossed in.

    But JW cannot carry Wilson’s jock. I do not need stats although they’re also convincing but Wilson is in a totally different league than JW.

    Can we win with JW…only if we build a better team around him.

    Trent Dilfer won a SB…Flacco…there are more than one game managers who won SB’s.

    So here is the choice I see Joe. We are 2-6…and I don’t want to quit until it’s literally or mathematically eliminated. We have plenty of time to make a decision on JW. He stills gives us the best chance to win another game.

  38. mark2001 Says:

    Pay him? You must be joking…lets see if he can play consistently well the rest of the games this year. He hasn’t strung more than two or three good games together. And you would pay him franchise money? Wpw…just wow. If we did that, I would lose all faith in this organization, and figure the team has been Chloroformed.

  39. WeeManOfScots Says:

    Couch Fan said it best…he destroyed the momentum….

  40. The Scourge Says:

    I only saw it once but it looked like Donovan Smith was pushed back into Winston and his elbow hit Smith’s helmet on that interception. I could be wrong…

  41. YucsLife76 Says:

    Blame Jameis all you want, but if you score 34 points you should win.

  42. MadMax Says:

    At this point, we just might have a chance at drafting Burrow! PLEASE FOOTBALL GODS, I BEG YOU!!!!!!

  43. Buc1987 Says:

    Winston wasn’t the problem…today…

    Next game????

  44. Greg Says:

    Our defense gives up 35 plus points every single week. Qb isn’t our biggest issue.

  45. Sharthappens Says:

    Hmmmm: d Foster, Mahoomes, Russel Wilson,

  46. Greg Says:

    A continued hair grabbing game where JW looks great and then the untouched ball catapulted from his hands up for grabs results in another JW turn over that was insurmountable! Who else could have served that up!

  47. tgregs Says:

    The mental midget’s one TD was pure luck on what should have been an interception. A total moron

  48. Tye Says:


    let’s see how these receivers, this offense runs with Griffin or Gabbert!

  49. Bucs Fan Since ‘76 Says:

    “Show fans that this team has a clear plan and a direction,” is the quote of the season. Sorry to beat a dead horse, but it is clear the Bucs have no system, let alone a plan. Three straight defensive coordinators have failed. At one point do we take a timeout and just admit Licht has consistently assembled terrible talent on that side of the ball? We all know what the definition of insanity is, right? Do the Glazers?

  50. Rojas Says:

    Jameis plays terrible at times.. but today wasn’t on him. D Smith hit his arm and caused the fumble. Secondary lost us the game today.

  51. Alanbucsfan Says:

    That was a fun game to watch, even though the secondary is terrible.
    Bucs had alot of fight today, but Wilson is great and he beat them.
    Let the season play out, Jameis was much improved today, he’s just not as good as Wilson

  52. tgregs Says:

    I’m sure Arians will again raise the SODDI defense…another moron

  53. MadMax Says:


    Ok, i’ll wait for better analysis….and i cut the cord so i only watch on the net

  54. Boyd Says:

    The thing is… if we DO keep playing jw, he’s gonna win us enough games to pick around 10-15. Better off tanking for burrow

  55. Jeagan1999 Says:

    Here’s the difference between a James Winston QB and a Russell Wilson QB….EVERY Seahawks fan in that stadium and watching on tv KNEW that Russell Wilson was going to do everything he needed to do to win that game and had confidence in him! Outside of a few Winston homers, who would believe the sky was maroon if Winston said it was, no one felt that way about our QB!

    This was a tight, well fought game…the difference….they didn’t turn the ball over….we did. That 3 points the Hawks got off the Winston fumble cost us the game in regular time! A FAR SUPERIOR QB named Russell Wilson cost us the game in overtime!

  56. tgregs Says:

    Not as good as Wilson? He’s not as good as my Yorkie…Yorkie is smarter and has more game

  57. Bucs Fan Since ‘76 Says:

    The Jameis haters really are committed. The kid completed 66% of his passes and scored 34 points today, on the road, in the NFL’s most hostile environment. Our Big 12 D gave up 40 points. That is why we lost.

  58. Leighroy Says:

    Woah woah woah. What’s the rush?!? Quite the false decision presented here at week 9 when there is no urgency required.

    If they sign him to an extension then a freak injury puts him on IR, that’s gunna look even dummer than our management ready looks. Plus if they manage to win a couple more games and are out of the running for a top QB in the draft order, they have to consider franchising him unless you want the red rocket wearing red.

  59. gotbbucs Says:

    This organization doesn’t make decisions like that mid season.

    If I had to guess, I would bet they give him the $27 million franchise tag after the season. It’s another in a long history of lost season’s for all of us, but it’s Arians and The Apple Dumpling Gang’s first rodeo with this bunch of buns. They’ll try to hit the reset button and march us all directly in front of the firing squad again next year.
    ….and this vicious cycle continues….

  60. Rayjay1122 Says:

    The only reason this game was close is because Winston had a good game which seems to happen every 3 or 4 weeks. However, this defense is such a heap of rat dung that even a perfect game by The offense woyld win half The games. Jason Licht should at least be fired if not incarcerated. He has ruined any chance this city has of cheering for a winning team during his reign.

    I am pulling against the Bucs until Licht is fired. I want him to conti,i.e. to fail because I want his sorry sack to be fired!

  61. Anonymous Says:

    The decision has been made. Just because Winston continues to play does not mean they don’t know. More than likely, he will again have a multipe turnover game, maybe even next week, and that may be the flush time. Ryan Griffin isn’t the answer; I think everyone knows that. But it sure would be nice to get him some game experience and see if he will be the backup next year. Or, he may prove good enough as a bridge QB.

  62. Petty Officer Buc Says:

    I called the “Dead Cat Bounce” game for Winston earlier in the week and the beginning of the game. I knew he would play good. Unfortunately, Good Winston only shows up once every 4 weeks. 2 weeks you get average Winston and one week you get Atrocious Winston. Sad to say it because he had a good game today, but he is too inconsistent to resign.

  63. Jameis Almighty! Says:

    Free Jameis! Set him free of the Glazers cess pool! Glazers Out! lLichts Out!

  64. Jameis Almighty! Says:

    Join me aboard the Firrreeeeee Licht train!

  65. Jean Lafitte Says:

    sometimes you just have to set them free. If he moves on to have a better career, then so be it. It was meant to be. Or we keep him and it’s like having Andy Daulton every game while your team is strapped for cash like Joe Flacco set the Ravens back.

  66. makie lovie Says:

    Jar Jar Binks, A clumsy, well-meaning Gungan outcast on Naboo, Jar Jar Binks struggled to prove his worth throughout his life. Putting his awkward past behind him.

  67. gambelero Says:

    Sad thing is. This team could have done much better this season. We’re on the road, after playing two terrible games, against one of the best teams in the league, a game with a 6-2 team playing a 2-5 team, and what does Vegas set as the line, Seahawks -4, literally begging everyone to bet Seattle.

  68. Curse of Gruden Says:

    The Bucs can’t commit $25 million to the QB position. There are just too many holes to fill.

  69. Killian Says:

    The obvious plan is to let Fameis continue to play as he gives us the best chance to get the highest draft pick possible.

  70. JimmyJack Says:

    Disagree Joe. You play to build a winner. Freaking team needs to learn how to win. So you need to get the secondary learn how to freaking play better.

    And when that happens you need your QB to proove he can perform consistently you win games.

    Learn how to quit making the mistakes that cost us games and build a winning team we can take into next year.

  71. tmaxcon Says:

    Let him Jameis leave there is no hope in Tampa ler him and evans both leave so they can taste success outside of the small market irrelevant franchise

  72. Anonymous Says:

    This article is by the dumb Joe, that one that loves Winston. LOL! He had a decent game, except for one game-losing mistake and this Joe wants to hurry and lock him up. Too funny.

  73. Mort Says:

    What a silly post. Play the second half of the year and then sign him and probably franchise Shaq.

  74. Grt1 Says:

    Mad max Donavan Smith hit him when he was getting blown back. You dumb a$$!!!!! . QB ain’t the problem. Oline 2020!!!

  75. Proudbucsfan Says:

    Let’s Trade the whole team to the Patriots for Tom Brady he can win all by himself. “Lol”

  76. orlbucfan Says:

    Nope, we don’t bench Winston: we do something about the came-out-of-retirement head coach. I live in retirement heaven downtown Orlando. I know our GM meant the best getting Arians out of retirement, but he blew it.

  77. NPRSageBoy Says:

    Bench him.

    Another turnover (92 now in almost 5 years).

    Another loss. Not even close to Russell Wilson.

    Peace, out

  78. D-Rome Says:

    I’ve said this for the past 3 weeks. He was excellent today but we all know “Bad Jay-Miss” will make another appearance.over the next 3 games. It’s just a matter of time.

  79. Joseph Mamma Says:

    BucsFan90 Says:
    November 3rd, 2019 at 7:44 pm
    Sign him or watch the Bucs go 0-16 next year..

    Trevor Lawrence ain’t a bad consolation prize then.

  80. Buccfan37 Says:

    I held the hope watching the game that the Bucs could win but really never thought they would so not that disappointed as the rut is dug deeper.

  81. Licht Sucks Says:

    Problem is letting Jason draft a quarter back. Drafting a franchise qb is very difficult but doing so with Licht at the helm is like running with concrete boots on. I think Glazers need to clean house or keep current crew intact. If keeping current crew draft lineman on both sides of the ball and get as many free agent corners as possible.

  82. lambchop Says:

    This article makes no sense. It would make sense if Jameis played consistently. Let him play the season out and see which way he plays consistently – bad or good. I’m guessing it’s bad. This is for a huge pay day, we need to give him a shot to earn it cuz he has not earned it yet.

  83. DBS Says:

    Why wasn’t the game losing mistake caused by Dotson? After Winston runs for a TD it gets called back because of him which is nothing new.

  84. Troy Says:

    #1: allowing Licht to make any decisions is insanity. #2: every additional year Winston plays for this franchise will set it back for two. #3: this is probably the dumbest article I’ve read and gives zero justification for just playing out the season. Saying it’s a “smart move” isn’t justification. Saying “it shows you have a plan” is nonsense. With all of the problems on this team, signing Winston now isn’t a plan, it’s a disaster. What happens if he tanks in 5 of the last 8 after you give him the extension? Just dumb.

    I could write the same nonsense advocating that they terminate Licht immediately. You’ve seen his work product for 5 years. It’s the smart move. It shows that the team has a plan.

    Get freakin serious. Winston plays out the season. Signing him or getting rid of him should be up to a new GM that knows how to build a team.

  85. firethecannons Says:

    Stupid article–dude the trading deadline is over, what difference is it if Winston is benched now? might as well wait till the end of the season to evaluate.

    It is Jason Licht who needs to be dumped before the next draft–no more defensive backs are to be taken by this man! Buy the future DB’s in free agency. We need a new GM — he is the problem. Cannot believe with all this staff that they decide to go with rooks and failures for the defensive backs except Jordan Whitehead.
    On another note, Joe, lose the bad mood, Bucs played better than anyone on the planet expected today and did not embarass themselves. be glad we aren’t Jets fans right now.

  86. BrianBucs Says:

    Time for Bucs to move on from Winston. 4.5 years of Winston excuses are enough. Both Bucs and Winston need a new breath of fresh air.
    If Winston is in a Bucs uniform next year, watch how Ray Jay empties out.

  87. TouchDownTampaBay Says:

    OMFG these posters!


    MadMax – DSmith hit his arm causing the fumble. Jesus the Joe’s posted the clip on an earlier article. It is clear as day!

    I am not an FSU fan, I am a Bucs fan. To the guy saying he didn’t have faith in Winston abut Seattle fans had faith in Wilson. The only reason I kept watching was because JW has the talent and skills to put together a last minute drive to tie the game. I also knew we would lose in OT as soon as Seattle got the ball. Seattle fans probably don’t have the same hopelessness that we have in regards to our pathetic secondary.

  88. Sbucs Says:

    At no point did I think the Bucs would win even When up 21-7.

  89. stpetebucsfan Says:


    “be glad we aren’t Jets fans right now.”

    Ain’t that the truth. Pity the poor Browns fans as well. Like us they thought they had their franchise QB…like us a couple years back this season it was the Browns were the darlings and considered prime playoff contenders.

    As of this evening they too are 2-6 and they too are beginning to wonder about their “franchise” QB.

  90. BucsBandit Says:


  91. Grt1 Says:

    Fook Bucs bandit !!!!!!! Go Bucs Oline 2020!!!!

  92. MadMax Says:

    Yeah, i posted a link to a vid showing the replay, it went into moderation and WASNT approved. I KNOW SMITH HIT HIS ELBOW AFTER I SAW THE REPLAY!!!!!
    I posted it, saying i was wrong within an hour after the game!!!
    Joes didnt approve the post
    Joe took it down because Joe wrote an entire post that included the video. –Joe

  93. Born-n-Raised Says:

    Jamie’s isnt the issue. That D is and has been atrocious.

    Jameis has 12 losses in his career with when he has a QBR over 100. Russ has only 10, Brady only 9. Not that Jameis hasn’t lost some games, but the Bucs losing these past 5 years is more bad defense than poor offense. Give the man a full defense and better offensive line.

  94. Brandon Says:

    Jameis has an 8 game tryout. Carson Palmer took 8 games to hit his groove with Arians. Why not see what #3 can do?

  95. nick Says:

    bench the defense jameis has been playing well, you guys are nutz

  96. BucsBandit Says:

    “Jameis has been playing well.”

    Did you get hit by an asteroid and lose your short-term memory for everything that has happened this season before the Seattle game? Jameis has SUCKED.

  97. T REX Says:

    Winstin plays well once we are out of the playoffs. Happens every year.

  98. Koryc Says:

    Can Steve please be on the Ira podcast this week?!? I miss his take

  99. TexBuc Says:

    when our defense gives up 40 points ALL discussions of Winston losing this game is just QB haters.

  100. lambchop Says:


    Ryan Fitzpatrick had a lights out game too.

    So what! You can count on Winston and Fitz to sh:t themselves way too many times to think they can do anything except waste everyone’s time and talent.

  101. Ndog Says:

    Brainbucs and BucsBandit have to be the two most CLUELESS people on this here website. My goodness you too need to just go away.

  102. Dapostman Says:

    Every game where the OL played decent Winston played decent. Just like all the other good QB’s in the league.

    The stupidity of this Buc fan base is unreal. Some of these posters parents have to be brother and sister. It’s like Dixie’s trailer park in here. You people are the most entertaining part of my day. I can only imagine how entertained I’m going to be after Winston gets resigned.

    Thank You Buc Fans!

  103. Im tired and 87 is right Says:

    Sign him. If not for him this team would be a complete joke with most of its fans.

  104. Im tired and 87 is right Says:

    I’m more sick n tired of our fans who definitely don’t go down with the One and only ship! Eat this loss and straight up choke or live another day. Bucs will figure it out! Never quit!

  105. Capt. Tim Says:

    Some of you dont get it

    Russel Wilson’s defense was pretty bad today. They gave up 34 points!
    So Wilson scored 41- with far less offensive weapons than Jameis.

    A good QB overcomes problems. Bad QB’s use them as excuses to lose.
    If Mike Evans wasn’t an unstoppable player- with an incredibly large target area, Jameis’ completion rate would be about half of what it is.
    Mike Evans has made a career out of bailing out inaccurate, bad QBs.
    First Johnny Mansel, Now Jameis
    Imagine what he would do with a good QB

  106. D-Rome Says:

    Capt. Tim, Mike Evans would be a perennial All Pro if he had an average QB. Your point is spot on. The Seahawks would be a 3-5 football team without Wilson. As long as he is on the field he gives them a chance to win. You can’t say the same about Winston.

  107. Dan Says:

    Jameis is not a starter. Jameis is not a back up. Case and point even a backup has one job. Don’t turn the ball over. Simply manage the game and if we loose let it be because you couldn’t win but not because you lost it for us. So you see Jameis does not even meet the criteria of a backup and therefore must be cut.

  108. Marlow1976 Says:

    JW needs to play out the season, so he can say he had a “fair” shot. Let’s see where our draft pick will be and hope, with a QB heavy draft, we have a shot at a guy like Burrow (LSU), Herbert (Oregon), Fromm (GA). However, it is time to Let JW go and wish him the best.

  109. Buczilla Says:

    Is Jameis worth 30 million or more (The going rate for good young quarterbacks) per year? Hell no. Blow it all up and for gosh sakes let’s send our gm out the door first, closely followed by 90% of the secondary.

  110. TOM Says:

    Its not that Wilson is so much better than Winston. The fact of the matter is he’s consistant & doesn’t turn the ball over. I don’t think Winston is going to change any time soon. He is what he is. I have a feeling that Licht will sign him for one more year before making a decision on a long term contract. Of course if I had my druthers Loser Licht would not be around to make that decision. Of course getting a 5yr extention I don’t think he’ll be going away any time soon, unless the The Glazer’s sell the team.