NFL Responds To Arians

November 2nd, 2019

It seems Bucco Bruce Arians rattled cages up on Park Avenue in New York.

At the NFL headquarters in Manhattan, suits were awakened by the words of Arians’s venting that NFL zebras don’t face consequences for their lousy calls that can get coaches and general managers fired.

(Joe is still fascinated Arians would say coaches and general managers could get fired.)

Apparently, Arians shook up the suits from their bagel and danish breakfast snacks washed down with pumpkin-spiced lattes, reports Jarrett Bell of USA Today. One suit was moved to call Arians and him.

“I disagree with that,” Troy Vincent, the NFL’s executive vice president for football operations, told USA TODAY Sports. “What I’ve shared with Bruce this week and others is that they are held accountable. It’s just not public.”

Vincent went on to explain to Bell that referees are downgraded by rotten calls. That hurts their evaluations and could prevent them from working playoff games. Vincent added the grading of zebras is done behind closed doors, so of course Arians and other coaches would not be hip to the process.

Bell added that zebras are choking on calls so often, the NFL might have to break down and release the grades they slap on officials each week.

Joe can’t get too worked up over the rotten call. Yeah, it stinks. But good teams don’t put themselves in position to get hosed by one call like that.

The Bucs stubbed their toes enough with dumb plays and rotten playcalls, including the 4th-and-1 call with the season on the line to run Peyton Barber up the middle for a loss. It was a play Arians later confessed he should have vetoed.

33 Responses to “NFL Responds To Arians”

  1. THETRUTH Says:

    Good teams don’t put themselves in position to get hosed by one call ????

    Tell the saints that !!!!!

    One bad call every few weeks can be difference between 2-5 and 4-3 and one doesn’t look so bad than

  2. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I agree with both points…….A rotten call should not be enough to cause a team to lose….and Refs should be held publicly accountable….

    Many games do come down to one score, so one call affecting a score can certainly affect the outcome…..happens all the time.

    Turnovers are reviewed but a quick and incorrect whistle is not…..

  3. bucs4ya Says:

    The fact that it’s been told to the refs to let the play go and shoot it out with replay is my biggest issue. Why did the ref blow the whistle so quickly? That play by White could’ve turned the season around and sparked a change. Hell maybe the blown call will do the same. We can all hope right? One thing’s for sure having JPP back helped the pass rush. Now let him play, he wasn’t happy with his playing time. Wish we had more like him.

  4. Im tired and 87 is right Says:

    The truth in a game of inches one bad call can hurt. We have had about three games where the refs have blown some calls which cost us games. I’m a season of 16 games that can devastate a team. In today’s day and age with technology refs can almost be eliminated.

  5. Kenneth Nance Says:

    Agree. You dont see good teams complaining about refs, or losing games because refs several times per year… Good teams arent trying to mount a 14 point 4th quarter comeback every week.

    Refs are part of the game… Always have been, always will be…

    The reason you dont see the Pats getting “screwed” by the refs is because they are up by 21 points every game, takes the refs out of it.

    Just like boxing or UFC with the judges. You dont want the judges to decide the winner? Go knock the other dude out.

  6. SmoothBayRider Says:

    Every team deals with rotten calls , dropped passes , wrong routes , etc. I only hear one team who’s head coach makes excuses .

  7. Jean Lafitte Says:

    That 4 and 1 play wasn’t just a run play up the middle. It was a draw play …smfh

  8. #1bucsfan Says:

    Joe that is complete BS. One bad call can end a game. Just ask the saints about the rams game. Don’t give me that oh well it shouldn’t have come down to 1 call complete B U L L JOE. these calls happen all the time an can change the out come of a game good or bad team doesn’t matter

  9. Just Sayin’ Says:

    Remember that NBA referee that was fixing games. So easy for NFL referees to do the same, a penalty could be called on every play.

  10. NO FEAR... Says:


  11. SmittyToiletBowles Says:

    Cmon Bruce you’re losing your touch. Quit whining and start winning.

  12. Wesley Says:

    THETRUTH is spot on, these clowns missed calls DO often determine games.

  13. Waterboy Says:

    Most games are decided by 4 or 5 key plays, 1 blown call can cost you games.

  14. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Have you guys ever known an official? I haven’t known an NFL official but plenty of major college officials.

    These guys are just like you and me. They do not WANT to fail.
    I do not believe they are objectively biased…they certainly seem to give more benefit of the doubt to stars..on EVERY team…and I’m sure in the back of their minds they are aware that historically the Bucs suck so that could lower their expectations.

    Overall…the officials did not decide the Tennessee game. The Bucs simply LOST.

    I do understand the mistake. The “down by contact” call and whistle is the toughest because reviews do not work and you can’t erase the mistake. Players are taught to play to the whistle…it’s totally unfair to blow a whistle…they stop…a TD is scored and then review comes back and it’s too late to play after the whistle.

  15. Pryda...Sec147 Says:

    Bull crap joe so many “good” teams gets calls for them it goes both ways

  16. Buccfan37 Says:

    Throw in the refs and these bumbling Bucs are at a disadvantage before the game begins. Winston has a squadron of excuse making coaches to further muddy the waters.

  17. Marine Buc Says:

    The Bucs and the referees both suck. Winston sucks too.

  18. martinii Says:

    I agree with much of the above sentiment. 1 bad call at a critical time in a close game can be lethal for a team. The refs are encouraged to not blow quick whistles and let the play run, then assess it when it is over. I could give a sh*t less if it slows down the game as long as it is correct. Remember a Bad call let go Hurts a team and in a billion dollar industry like the NFL it matters.

  19. Buc1987 Says:

    When the bad call results in a negated TD of course it matters…

  20. Mike Johnson Says:

    I agree with coach Arians. But at some point here coach, you gotta Beat teams. Yes, we got a couple bad calls in Tenn. But I counted 6 surefire dropped passes by our receivers too! We had multiple chances to win that game in our opponents house. We did not. Onward to Seattle baby!

  21. I’m a Tandyman used to be Bucs Fan Says:

    Buccco you might have messed up!!I Coached 27 years and I don’t care what anybody says!! You call a Ref out and piss them off they make calls at crucial parts of games that does have an impact on outcomes!!

  22. Donnie -wish we were better- Buc fan Says:

    Offense sells tickets defenses win championship! Asked Bill B.
    If the punter held on the ball we wouldn’t be talking about this. The Bucs look bad regardless of that one play. Defense is almost completely died last in the league.

    This is merely a distraction for BA and co to be like see that over there, that’s why we lost. Don’t point out the horrible talent on defense and the most over paid o-line in NFL history, no not that but this one bad ref call. Riiiiiggghhhtt.

    Time for Licht to go. I’m not fooled by this team and I refused to go to another game until this guy is gone. I told that straight to their sales rep who call me last week. He says he is getting an insane amount of people saying the same.

    We need to rally and boycott the games! Only way to send the message to Glazer’s

  23. Joe Says:

    Offense sells tickets defenses win championship! Asked Bill B.

    Is that why Belicheat ran off Tom Brady?

  24. Donnie -wish we were better- Buc fan Says:

    Seriously, who pays a TE $7mil then draft a starter TE to bench that 7mil??

  25. Donnie -wish we were better- Buc fan Says:

    @joe is that why they have 5 rings together?

  26. orlbucfan Says:

    Oh, give me a friggin’ break! Refs are prejudiced like anyone else. When you’ve been a perennial losing joke in the league like the Bucs are, the zebs have no problems calling some legendary crap against the team. Are they going to held accountable? Nope! Dungy got this and coached his team to outplay the refs as well as the other team. I think Bowles gets it but not BA–yet (I hope).

  27. orlbucfan Says:


  28. Jmarkbuc Says:


    Blameis ain’t no TB12

  29. Wes Says:

    When good teams face good teams then the game always comes down to 1 play. If this were a playoff game everyone would be in uproar, but since it’s the Bucs no one cares about, they can “live with the call”

  30. Pewter power Says:

    You only hear one team cool playing about it because you follow one team damn some people just gave top comment for the sake of saying something negative. Only thing they can disagree with is refs being held accountable, if you watched more than one game a week you’d know everyone complains including announcers. Just seems like they make sure not to mess up on highly televised games so basically playoffs teams and cowboys.

  31. How bout dem bucs Says:

    Winston leads the league in turnovers #getridofjamies

  32. mark2001 Says:

    What a pile of bull sham..

    It isn’t public…we tell them “bad boy” and slap their hands.

    Get real you stuffed shirts… there is NO accountability. To say anything else is simply a plain lie…deep NFL front office football corruption and ineptitude being buried.

  33. mark2001 Says:

    NOTRUTH…ever hear it is a “game of inches”? You haven’t watched football very long, have you. Suggest you go back to your knitting.